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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




Total votes: 25
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Reply #7075 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:44pm
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Ok, Bon Jovi. I meant Bon Jovi.
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Reply #7076 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:49pm
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Now it's getting ugly!
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Reply #7077 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:17pm
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caro wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:44pm:
Ok, Bon Jovi. I meant Bon Jovi.

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:49pm:
Now it's getting ugly!

finally! we have consensus on the politics page.

i feel we have made some major breakthroughs today. now everyone go home and play "exile" until your ears bleed, and we'll meet back here next wednesday.
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Reply #7078 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:33pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:32pm:
I haven't ever started to be mean



you just choose to not listen when you're told about it...
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Reply #7079 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:43pm
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No. 
I heard you.
You are just wrong.
If I want to be mean, believe me, I get MEAN!
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Reply #7080 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:59pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:43pm:
No.  
I heard you.
You are just wrong.
If I want to be mean, believe me, I get MEAN!



a person doesn't have to be deliberately offensive or hostile to be considered mean... most people do not know when they're being mean to others, until someone says they have been hurt or it is pointed out... it's not about being right or wrong... if you're ok with it, please continue, it's a source of grattitude for me when I see others doing things, they've been told are hurtful to others, and justify it it and/or continue it... I love that you and Rifyy both love to point out the failings of others, yet niether of you have ever allowed, even in a nice way, as I'm trying, to be confronted on your actions, you simply ignore it... I've seen repeatedly how comments are made about character and when a person responds, after being defensive about these comments, then that is attacked as well... it's usually done by someone losing an argument... it's cheap shots... I've seen alot levelled on brainbell... he  ight be really smart, and come off as a snob... so what? it's this jock mentality, this cowboy dumb guy shit... i'm glad most liberals are considered intellectual snobs... like 12% of conservatives think the sun goes around the earth... these are the same folks who think Iraq attacked us on 9-11... the same ones who beleive the healthcare lies about death panels... you just make shit up and tell the uninformed, then they repeat it... sadly, it's not a matter of education... you can't teach common sense... and yet, Glenn Beck wrote a book called that, and that dude is a few chromosones shy of downs syndrome!!!
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Reply #7081 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:05pm
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I don't care
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Reply #7082 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:33pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 5:43pm:
No.  
I heard you.
You are just wrong.
If I want to be mean, believe me, I get MEAN!

And if I wanted to be condescending, I could do that, too.  Here's an example of howe I could have handled the insult to my intelligence:  "Shut the fuck up, you ignorant windbag!  Go back to your microphone and leave the political discussions to people who aren't so stoopit as to call Mark Levin a 'constitutional scholar.'"  Now, that would be rude and condescending, and frankly, not far from the tenor of what we read repeatedly from your side of the aisle.  That is not the approach I choose to take.
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Reply #7083 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:49pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:05pm:
I don't care


A very Republican thing to say...
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Reply #7084 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:12am
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"And if I wanted to be condescending, I could do that, too."

I hear ya BJ.
Chalk it up to me being mean, or bad juju from my side of the aisle.
You certainly have the right to defend yourself in whatever way you wish.

Carry on
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Reply #7085 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:22am
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SANTA FE, N.M. -- New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and former high-ranking members of his administration won't be criminally charged in a yearlong federal investigation into pay-to-play allegations involving one of the Democratic governor's large political donors, someone familiar with the case said.

The decision not to pursue indictments was made by top Justice Department officials, according to a person familiar with the investigation, who asked not to be identified because federal officials had not disclosed results of the probe.

"It's over. There's nothing. It was killed in Washington," the person told The Associated Press.
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Reply #7086 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:23am
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nankerphelge wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:12am:
"And if I wanted to be condescending, I could do that, too."

I hear ya BJ.
Chalk it up to me being mean, or bad juju from my side of the aisle.
You certainly have the right to defend yourself in whatever way you wish.

Carry on



I had a good nights sleep... feel like a new person today... off to see my doc to find out if I need heart surgery or what... thank god I have insurance,,, and even being insured, the past 2 years have sucked, going through the crap with doctors, switching carriers ect... and right now, I have zero fear of what is going to be told to me or happen today.
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Reply #7087 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:46am
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Pdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:23am:
nankerphelge wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:12am:
"And if I wanted to be condescending, I could do that, too."

I hear ya BJ.
Chalk it up to me being mean, or bad juju from my side of the aisle.
You certainly have the right to defend yourself in whatever way you wish.

Carry on



I had a good nights sleep... feel like a new person today... off to see my doc to find out if I need heart surgery or what... thank god I have insurance,,, and even being insured, the past 2 years have sucked, going through the crap with doctors, switching carriers ect... and right now, I have zero fear of what is going to be told to me or happen today.


dude??
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Reply #7088 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 11:53am
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Watched an Alaska health care town hall the other day (Murkowski), and I was surprised at how civil the event was. The questions were all over the board, with many assumptions about socialism and death panels, but the discourse was completely civil. Murkowski did keep mentioning that TORT reform needed to be included, to which there was much applause. I guess Rush must be pushing this point daily, but couldn't say for sure because I don't listen to that racist drug addict.

I also watched the Virginia health care town hall with rep Moran. It was mild compared to some of the previous weeks meetings, but still a lot of questions of socialism and death panels, and a lot of yelling. This event also had Howard Dean there to make a short speech and field some questions. Lots of booing for the Gov, but he waited them out and then spoke.

Dean is so knowledgeable on this topic it's a shame he isn't on television more often. He did make reform happen in Vermont.

One thing I learned from Dean's response to a question regarding "why isn't TORT reform a part of the package".
His answer was that "they didn't want to inspire lawyers to engage in defeating the bill, so they left it out for now".

That's honest, huh?
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Reply #7089 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 2:17pm
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Pdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 8:23am:
I had a good nights sleep... feel like a new person today... off to see my doc to find out if I need heart surgery or what... thank god I have insurance,,, and even being insured, the past 2 years have sucked, going through the crap with doctors, switching carriers ect... and right now, I have zero fear of what is going to be told to me or happen today.


I'm not exactly sure what's going on, but I wish you the best of everything - luck, health care, good vibes, etc. 

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Reply #7090 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 2:49pm
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A Republican congresswoman from Kansas
is issuing a great big apology for saying the
GOP is searching for a "great white hope" to
stop President Obama's policy agenda.


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Rep. Lynn Jenkins "apologizes if her
words have offended anyone," her
spokesman, Mary Geiger, told The
Associated Press. "That was not the
intent in any way, shape or form."

During an Aug. 19 forum, Jenkins
attempted to reassure the crowd
that that the Republican Party has
promising young leaders.

"Republicans are struggling right
now to find the great white hope,"
Jenkins, who is white, said. "I
suggest to any of you who are
concerned about that, who are
Republican, there are some
great young Republican minds
in Washington."

(ed. note: but none in Kansas.)

Later, at an event at the University
of Kansas in Lawrence, Jenkins denied
she was using racial terms. She said
she meant only that the GOP needs
"a bright light."

"I was unaware of any negative
connotation, and if I offended
anybody, obviously, I apologize,"
Jenkins told the Lawrence Journal-World.

The term originated in the early 20th
century when whites upset that a black
man, Jack Johnson, had become the
heavyweight boxing champion pined
for a "great white hope" to dethrone
him.

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Reply #7091 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 2:53pm
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Pastor Of Gun-Toter At Obama Event Prayed For Obama To Die

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Chris Broughton, the man who brought an assault rifle and a handgun to the Obama event in Arizona last week, attended a fiery anti-Obama sermon the day before the event, in which Pastor Steven Anderson said he was going to "pray for Barack Obama to die and go to hell", Anderson confirmed to TPMmuckraker today.

Anderson also said Broughton had informed the pastor about his planned show of arms-bearing, but "he planned out the AR15 thing long before he heard that sermon," delivered Sunday August 16 at the fundamentalist Faithful World Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ.

This is the second example of the gun-toters at the Arizona Obama event tied to the violent fringes of American life.

"I don't obey Barack Obama. And I'd like Barack Obama to melt like a snail tonight," Anderson said in the sermon.

The sermon, which was titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama" and also contained virulent anti-gay themes, continued:

you're going to tell me that I'm supposed to pray for the socialist devil, murderer, infanticide, who wants to see young children and he wants to see babies killed through abortion and partial-birth abortion and all these different things -- you're gonna tell me I'm supposed to pray for God to give him a good lunch tomorrow while he's in Phoenix, Arizona?

Nope. I'm not gonna pray for his good. I'm going to pray that he dies and goes to hell.

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I guess the Bible leaves too much open for interpretation . . .
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thanks for the well wishes... got mostly good news from doc... I've done to EKG's one recently, and did a stress test with my last EKG 18 moths ago... they are going to do both at the same time next week, some kind of hybrid type test... Mostly to make sure there' no blockage. Doc said most of my problem is from my heart getting enlarged when I was sick earlier this year from a severe viral thing... and it will recover on it's own, as long as nothing else exists... He gave me a thumbs up to workout as hard as  I can, and push my cardio to the red line... fuck yea!!!
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Reply #7093 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:07pm
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Pdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:01pm:
thanks for the well wishes... got mostly good news from doc... I've done to EKG's one recently, and did a stress test with my last EKG 18 moths ago... they are going to do both at the same time next week, some kind of hybrid type test... Mostly to make sure there' no blockage. Doc said most of my problem is from my heart getting enlarged when I was sick earlier this year from a severe viral thing... and it will recover on it's own, as long as nothing else exists... He gave me a thumbs up to workout as hard as  I can, and push my cardio to the red line... fuck yea!!!

time to man up
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Reply #7094 - Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:30pm
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Some Guy wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
Pdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:01pm:
thanks for the well wishes... got mostly good news from doc... I've done to EKG's one recently, and did a stress test with my last EKG 18 moths ago... they are going to do both at the same time next week, some kind of hybrid type test... Mostly to make sure there' no blockage. Doc said most of my problem is from my heart getting enlarged when I was sick earlier this year from a severe viral thing... and it will recover on it's own, as long as nothing else exists... He gave me a thumbs up to workout as hard as  I can, and push my cardio to the red line... fuck yea!!!

time to man up


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We are born under a load of obligations of every kind, to our predecessors, to our successors, to our contemporaries. After our birth these obligations increase or accumulate, for it is some time before we can return any service.... This ["to live for others"], the definitive formula of human morality, gives a direct sanction exclusively to our instincts of benevolence, the common source of happiness and duty. [Man must serve] Humanity, whose we are entirely.
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Reply #7096 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 8:30am
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Pdog wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 6:43am:
We are born under a load of obligations of every kind, to our predecessors, to our successors, to our contemporaries. After our birth these obligations increase or accumulate, for it is some time before we can return any service.... This ["to live for others"], the definitive formula of human morality, gives a direct sanction exclusively to our instincts of benevolence, the common source of happiness and duty. [Man must serve] Humanity, whose we are entirely.



Sounds like a lot of liberal claptrap. It's the opposite of free-market capitalism. Certainly not what President Reagan had in mind when He founded this country.

Either that, or a good re-wording of the teachings of Christ. Maybe a quote by Teddy Kennedy or Eunice Shriver?
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Shame on Washington state

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/


My home state! In a region with some of the highest percentages of godless people in the country! And they have this awful law on the books.

    Washington's law specifies that a person treated through faith healing "by a duly accredited Christian Science practitioner in lieu of medical care is not considered deprived of medically necessary health care or abandoned." Other religions are not mentioned.

Christian Science is not science, and it is definitely not medicine. I presume some religious lobby got this evil exemption on the books years ago, but now it's time to remove it—it's killing people. The mention of the law comes from a story about a young man, Zachery Swezey, who died a slow, painful death from a ruptured appendix, with his parents looking on.

    The day his son died, Greg Swezey told sheriff's investigators he knew Zakk would die 10 or 15 minutes before the teenager passed away. His condition had gotten much worse about an hour and a half before Zakk died, he told the investigators, and he realized Zakk was exhibiting some of the symptoms of death he'd seen when older church members died.

    He did not consider calling an ambulance, he told them.

Who did he call instead? Elders of his church, who showed up to splash oil on the poor kid and pray.
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Shame on Washington state

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/


My home state! In a region with some of the highest percentages of godless people in the country! And they have this awful law on the books.

   Washington's law specifies that a person treated through faith healing "by a duly accredited Christian Science practitioner in lieu of medical care is not considered deprived of medically necessary health care or abandoned." Other religions are not mentioned.

Christian Science is not science, and it is definitely not medicine. I presume some religious lobby got this evil exemption on the books years ago, but now it's time to remove it—it's killing people. The mention of the law comes from a story about a young man, Zachery Swezey, who died a slow, painful death from a ruptured appendix, with his parents looking on.

   The day his son died, Greg Swezey told sheriff's investigators he knew Zakk would die 10 or 15 minutes before the teenager passed away. His condition had gotten much worse about an hour and a half before Zakk died, he told the investigators, and he realized Zakk was exhibiting some of the symptoms of death he'd seen when older church members died.

   He did not consider calling an ambulance, he told them.

Who did he call instead? Elders of his church, who showed up to splash oil on the poor kid and pray.



what's amazing is these people oppose abortion...
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Reply #7099 - Aug 30th, 2009 at 7:26pm
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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet
by Declan McCullagh

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.
They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.
"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."
Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.
A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.
When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records," Rockefeller said.
The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is "not as prepared" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.
Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a "cybersecurity workforce plan" from every federal agency, a "dashboard" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a "comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.
The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. "As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," he says.
Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)
"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits," EFF's Tien says. "It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it."
Translation: If your company is deemed "critical," a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.
The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is "supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective."
Update at 3:14 p.m. PDT: I just talked to Jena Longo, deputy communications director for the Senate Commerce committee, on the phone. She sent me e-mail with this statement:
The president of the United States has always had the constitutional authority, and duty, to protect the American people and direct the national response to any emergency that threatens the security and safety of the United States. The Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill makes it clear that the president's authority includes securing our national cyber infrastructure from attack. The section of the bill that addresses this issue, applies specifically to the national response to a severe attack or natural disaster. This particular legislative language is based on longstanding statutory authorities for wartime use of communications networks. To be very clear, the Rockefeller-Snowe bill will not empower a "government shutdown or takeover of the Internet" and any suggestion otherwise is misleading and false. The purpose of this language is to clarify how the president directs the public-private response to a crisis, secure our economy and safeguard our financial networks, protect the American people, their privacy and civil liberties, and coordinate the government's response.
Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for an on-the-record answer to these four questions that I asked her colleague on Wednesday. I'll let you know if and when I get a response.

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