2000monkey wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 2:19pm:



What are you talking about?

fuman wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 11:21am:





Oh yes it is.  DON'T TELL RIFFY WHAT TO DISS, DRONE!
Republicans are REAL men, not effete snobs.  They do
manly, regular-guy things when they're vacationing.
Choppin' stuff down. Bowling. That sort of thing.

And they're damned good at it too. The two Presidents who
took the most vacation days in history? George W. Bush and
Ronald W. Reagan (who once said "It's true hard work never
killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" )

Pdog wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 3:44pm:



You know what that is? SOCIALISM!!  That is down-right UN-AMERICAN, P-Diggy, and I demand you renounce such Alinskyite ideas immediately!

I heard that Obama is reading Tom Friedman's book on global warming.

As it turns out, I have been reading it for the past couple of weeks. Good book. I'm a slow reader, I tend to recap every night before I start up again.

Not from the book, but relevant:
In 1972 a NASA scientist testified before Congress, stating that the planet was warming. He based his assertion on data compiled from hundreds (thousands?) of thermometers placed around the world. These thermometers were in place for roughly 100 years, so the data was stable.
Shortly after his testimony, new satellite data (10 years of data collection) showed that the planet was cooling. This served to discredit the testimony.
At the end of the 1970's, it was determined that the satellite data was wrong, due to a shrinking orbit and a slowing down of the satellite's orbit. What they thought was data from Rio De Janeiro at 12:00 Noon was actually Rio De Janeiro at 6:00 PM. Also in the late 1970's a scientist graphed temperature readings and made was was called "the hockey stick" graph, so called because of the relatively flat data until the 20th century where the graph shot up. His data was over a thousand years of climate averages.

Now enter that stupid fuck Reagan, who after seeing this alarming data called for yet another study. He appointed a highly respected scientist to head the new study, but many feared this guy was too much of a free market capitalist, and would inject that bias into the report (which he ended up doing).
So while this study is happening, researchers from around the world started their own. In the later part of the 1980's, the report was published and all of the other studies were reported.

The ONE area that there were discrepancies was in the early portion of these graphs, mostly 1800's to early 1900's.
Where they all were in agreement was the 1900's onward, where the temperatures shot up.

But even this was disputed and locked up in arguments in the 1990's, because of money, money, money. And money talks.
(didn't you get any? Too bad, but you got the benefits of all that spending right? Oh, sorry. Well, you got clean air and water, right?)

Now our 1972 scientist had been working on simulation models, but since he still was living with the discredited label from his earlier testimony, his arguments were easily disputed. Then, in 1993 (?) a volcano erupted. It was massive, and it provided an opportunity to "qualify" his climate modeling software. He nailed it, by predicting a cooling trend in certain geographic areas around the world. His models were accurate enough, and way ahead of other forecasting techniques.

This is where we are now. The elevated levels of CO2 are climbing in unison with the planets temperature. There is no dispute about that.

We need to begin the process to get off of fossil fuels. We have enough technology already, and it will take a long time to ween all of the industries, so the sooner we start the better off we'll be.

Someone once said "the stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones. It ended because they found better ways".

Riffhard wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 10:25am:

I must take issue with this assertion.  I, for one, support President Obama, and I am demonstrably not a moron.  In fact, my measurable intelligence is substantially above average; a perfect score on the LSAT put me in the top one-tenth of one percent of those taking the test, who are already self-selected for high intelligence.  I can think of any number of Obama supporters who are probably even smarter than I am; Paul Krugman and Warren Buffett, among many others, come quickly to mind.  And don't bother citing Buffett's recent op-ed piece on federal deficits; I read the whole article, not just the quotes Sean Hannity took out of context, so I know Buffett still supports Barack.  In fact, I would surmise that if the IQs of Obama supporters and opponents were compared, we would win by a large margin.  Riffy makes the mistake of assuming that those who disagree with him are stupid, even when they hold Nobel Prizes or other proof of their brilliance.  Of course, while he feels quite comfortable insulting the intelligence of his political opponents, any discussion of actual intellectual aptitude or accomplishment is certain to evoke pitiful cries of "elitist" from him.

consumer confidence is up! 100% Obama's fault.

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 6:20pm:



Do you think riffhard is a "overinflated ego pompous asshole" when he states that those who support Obama are morons?

Barry is the worst president ever. Period. He went to Harvard. He's an idiot. He's an ideologue that is doing what he thinks is right, and he has zero executive experience. I would match my intelligence, and more importantly, my common sense up to any single poster on this site. Anyone! Paul Krugman is also an ideologue. Milton Friedman was ten times the scholar that Krugman is, or ever will be, and Milton would bitch slap little Paulie upside the head with the sheer power of his massive intellect.


I hold every single person that voted for this incompetent moron accountable for helping to destroy the USA. And for all of you who did, and now regret it? You, I embrace! Welcome home! Welcome back to the land of reason!



Riffy

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 7:57pm:




BJ the bottom line is this. Obama has under performed in a huge huge way! You can spin it any way you want, but he has more than quadrupled the deficit. More jobs have been lost in seven months than during the entire eight year run of Bush's presidency, and more losses are predicted. He has nationalized two of the big three auto makers. He has nationalized banking and loan institutions. He has paid off his political allies like ACORN, SIEU, the NEA, the AFL/CIO with billions of dollars, He has told our ally Israel to basically piss off. He has given a green light to Iran to produce nukes. He has closed GITMO, but he has nowhere to put the terrorists that are housed there? So what's he do? He just starts releasing them!

Spin this however you want, but many Americans are starting to figure out the one thing about Barack Obama that some of us knew all along. He is a hard left radical that won't put his ideology in check even for a minute. His vision of America is polarly opposite than that of the Founding Fathers. He believes in state run socialism, and is performing wealth redistribution on a scale never before seen in civilization. We should have all known these facts! I mean he even let the cat out of the bag when he addressed Joe The Plumber. Who did the media go after though? Why Joe The Plumber, of course! How dare he have the temerity to ask Barry such a question!


No BJ. Your guy sucks. He is considerably worse than Bush ever was, and now he is helping to destroy the morale of the CIA interrogators. There is nothing to praise this man for. Nothing at all!



Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 8:29pm:


is this your way of saying sorry for calling him (brainbell) stupid? This might be the  ost pompous post ever, citing the direct repsonse and quotes!!! If there was an Energizer bunny of being a dick, you might be it... I'm kind of emberassed of you or for you right now... I only imagine what a new to the boards stones fan would think about us right now... do you ever take a second to think about how we all are percieved and how poorly we appear to treat each other? You not only ignore direct questions on the topic and debate, you come back so hostile on top of it... I'm glad you have health insurance, you might need it, you can't be this angry all the time and not have it effect your health...

Riffhard wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 8:29pm:



He's been in office 6 months. How can you possibly say he is the worst? Defies logic. Also.

Israel is just veal for Christians. They believe that Israel will expedite the return of jesus. That's your motivation. It's BS.

Most Americans are not turning. The electorate that voted for Obama is quiet these days, true.
We'll see how things turn out in 2010 and 2012.

I knew the country would get fucked up by W's administration. You didn't.

PS You haven't got a clue what the founding fathers would say, given the current state of the union. You only know what Rush tells you. You are a proud ditto head.

PPS Howard Dean was fantastic at the Virginia health care debate. What a vast knowledge of the industry and the politics. Amazing.

282 pages,, is there a conclusion yet... was Obama elected president or not??

Or is the actual subject of this thread about something entirely different? !

Summary please...

"A variation on the"pitiful cries of 'elitist'" I predicted. "

Wow amazing prediction there, Kreskin!



You come in here, brag unabashedly at your "perfect" little LSAT score amongst the thousands of smarty pants lawyer types.  You boast of your superior intellect and those of your comrades supporting this national disgrace of a President, and then you cry like a little fucking pussy when I call you pompous!

Poor little BJ.