Riffhard wrote on Aug 10^th, 2009 at 7:39pm:


I'm sorry - why exactly is it that I'm being called arrogant? Because somebody else posted a picture with a snarky comment?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you said that you weren't religious yourself.   So what bearing does it have if you think that those folks go to church on Sundays? Isn't that sort of profiling them based on their looks?

Just askin'.

Once again, all together now-It's Bush's fault!


Oh how I love to watch the worst president in US history fail!!! He will set the Democrat party back 50 years!!! Great news for America, and real Americans!!! Horrible news for myopic Obamadrones!


Here---->Deficits of $1.8 trillion this year and $1.3 trillion in 2010, as predicted by the White House, would add to the federal debt. The current $11.7 trillion debt already equals about $38,500 for every U.S. resident. The recession, now in its postwar-record 21st month, has dealt a worse blow to the budget than the administration expected:

• The economy is set to shrink by 2.6% this year, more than twice what the White House predicted in February and May.

• As a result, tax revenue is down by $353 billion over 10 months, which is about what the White House thought it would lose for the entire year.

• Unemployment, projected at 8.1% this year by the White House, was 9.4% in July. Spending for jobless benefits, Medicaid and Medicare has soared as people have lost work and health insurance. Jobless benefits are costing more than twice what was spent last year.

"The deficit picture is very challenging," White House budget director Peter Orszag wrote on his blog last month.

Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, says having a deficit at "previously unthinkable levels … shows an incredible lack of fiscal responsibility."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-10-deficit_N.htm




How's that whole "change" and "hope" thing workin' out for you drones?! ROTFLMMFAO!!!



Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 1:12pm:


How's the hypertension, hours of inactivity in front of a computer and anger working out for you? Dude go hug your kids, take them out for ice cream, take a walk outside, surprise your girl with her favorite flowers. You ain't going to be around long enough to see the results of deficits and health changes if you don't chill more.
Enjoy yourself . . . .It's later than you think. . . .

Oh come off it you guys! There's absolutely no anger or any negativity at work here! I am just glad that Socialism is failing. Socialism is antithetical to the very history of this great country. I'm just happy to see that Obama is failing because that proves to me that the average American is rejecting it! That should make everyone happy!


C'mon guys! Put on a happy face! Obamunism is sinking! That's portends good things for everyone!


Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 2:03pm:


riffy, i can't believe you said that. every political post you make (which is about 95% of your overall post count) is angry and negative. do you read the stuff you write? do you? i mean, really?

Riffhard wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 2:03pm:



you will stand before an evil death panel who will decide your fate... to honor the troops, can you stop telling lies?

what is Riffy droning on about?

Starbuck wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 2:13pm:



See this just proves the fallacy of the Internet. Every single post that write is written with a smile on my face! It's true! A new low? Are you kidding JC?!?! Yeah, you guys were all about rooting for Bush, right? You always wanted his policies to succeed! Right?

Bush may have had his faults, and I readily admitted as much. But one thing he wasn't was a socialist. Though, idiotically, it was Bush that opened the door to socialism with the first Tarp bill. However, what Barry has done is flat out blatantly socialist, and he's moving fast, or hadn't you noticed? This, of course, comes as no surprise to anyone that knew the bastard's history. The media tried mightily to cover up his socialist/communist friends and associates, but only a complete Obamadrone ever dismissed his entire history. Fortunately many of the drones are snapping out of it!


People here say that they can't believe that I would say such a thing?!?!?!?! Are you kidding?! I can't believe that anyone would support a man who so obviously wants to turn this nation into something that is exactly what the Founding Fathers warned us against! It is not hyperbole to say that had Obama proposed any of the policies that he is proposing now back during the founding of this great nation he may well have been hung for treason (and no, libs, I am not suggesting such a thing!). He certainly would have been tarred and feathered and driven out of town on a rail. Sorry to upset you Obamadrones, but those are just the facts. Jefferson would have ridiculed him. Adams would have prosecuted him. Franklin would have disavowed him, and Washington would have fought against him.

Yet some of you admire him! Pathetic.



I posted all of the above with a smile on my face!!!


He's failing big time! That is great news for all of us! Let the first person who wants socialism to work make yourself known. I'll stand on the side of liberty, thank you very much! You can keep the tyranny and socialism for yourself.




Riffy

Saint Sway wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 4:18pm:




LOL! All you need to know is that your country is waking up from it's case of mass hypnosis. The drones are snapping out of it! Yay, America!


Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 4:00pm:

Interesting, and for me believable!




           A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of 'why' our country is in trouble!


                 1 .I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter) ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an airplane!)


                 2. I got a call from a Kansas Congressman's (Moore) staffer (Howard Bauleke), who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, and then he interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts .''

                 Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, ''Cape Cod is in Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa ''
                 his response -- click.


                 3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.
                 He replied, 'don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state!'' (OMG)


                 4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife (Landra Reid) who asked, ''Is it possible to see England from Canada ?''
                 I said, ''No.''
                 She said, ''But they look so close on the map.'' (OMG, again!)


                 5.An aide for a cabinet member (Janet Napolitano) once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas . I pulled up the reservation and noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas . When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, ''I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)


                 6.An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky)  called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
                 I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn't understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.


                 7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked, ''Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom?'' I said, 'No, why do you ask?'
                 he replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very rude!''

                 After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it.. (I was dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , Ca. is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a destination tag on his luggage.

                 8. A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''


                 9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman, Bobby Bright (D) from Ala who asked, ''How do I know which plane to get on?''

                 I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ''I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.''

                 10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D) called and said, ''I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes?''

                 I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL on a commuter plane.
                 She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''


                 11. Mary Landrieu (D) La. Senator called and had a question about the documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. 'Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those.''
                 I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa. When I told her this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my American Express!''
                 12. A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make reservations, ''I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York .''

                 I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ''Are you sure that's the name of the town?''
                 'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man.
                 After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a rhino anywhere."
                 ''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check your map!''
                 So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ''You don't mean Buffalo , do you?''
                 The reply? ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''


                 Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in!
                 Could anyone be this DUMB?

                 YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO BREED.


                 I don't write it, I just offer it for your consideration. Like manure, you just gotta spread it around.

Fact-checking Obama on Healthcare

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:21 PM

By: David A. Patten 

Several statements that President Barack Obama made at his town hall meeting at Portsmouth High School in New Hampshire on Tuesday merit closer inspection.

Among them:


Nobody will lose their current plan: "Now, the way we have approached it, is that if you've got healthcare under a private plan, if your employer provides you healthcare or you buy your own healthcare and you're happy with it, you won't have to change."

Fact: A nonprofit healthcare research organization, the Lewin Group, concluded in a study commissioned by the Heritage Foundation that more than 88 million Americans would lose their current insurance under the 1,018-page plan originally submitted to Congress.

"It is hard to argue against the facts," Nina Owcharenko, deputy director of the Center for Health Policy Studies for the Heritage Foundation, tells Newsmax. "The Lewin Group estimates more than 88 million could lose their current employer-based coverage under the House bill. Other estimates, by the Congressional Budget Office and Urban Institute, although lower than Lewin, still find millions of Americans could lose their current coverage."


Obama objects to special interests: "But let's face it, now is the hard part – because the history is clear – every time we come close to passing health insurance reform, the special interests fight back with everything they've got."

Fact: Actually, pharmaceutical companies and health insurance firms have tried hard to work with the administration to shape the proposals coming out of Congress.

"In stark contrast to the healthcare reform debate in the 1990s," reports The Hill, "the health insurance industry has refrained from launching attacks on Obama or the plans working their way through Congress. Insurance lobbyists have been very active on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue trying to shape the legislations, but so far the industry has not used its considerable resources to stop the process, despite numerous Democratic proposals it opposes."

Robert Zirkelbach, communications director for the America's Health Insurance Plans trade organization, tells Newsmax: "The inconvenient fact is that our industry strongly supports healthcare reform and we actually proposed last year the insurance market reforms and consumer protections that people are talking about today."


Obama on prescription drugs: "Now, in terms of savings for you as a Medicare recipient, the biggest one is on prescription drugs, because the prescription drug companies have already said that they would be willing to put up $80 billion in rebates for prescription drugs as part of a healthcare reform package. Now, we may be able to get even more than that."

Fact: The White House admitted last week that a New York Times report that the administration had cut a backroom deal with the pharmaceutical companies was accurate. The administration desperately wanted to show that private companies were supporting its healthcare initiatives, so it offered the drug companies a deal: If they would sign onto the plan and agree to $80 billion in cuts, the administration would guarantee it would not allow Congress to go back to them for further reductions in drug prices. Former Clinton administration Labor Secretary Robert Reich wrote in a Salon.com column that he was "appalled" that Obama – who promised a new type of government independent of lobbyists – had cut a secret deal with Big Pharma. "We're on a precarious road – and wherever it leads, it's not toward democracy," Reich wrote.

Footnote: Obama's secret deal with the drug companies was exposed after the companies sought assurances, due to suggestions that they might be asked to make even deeper cuts despite the White House agreement. Obama's statement that "we may be able to get even more than that" will resonate in corporate boardrooms, as CEOs evaluate whether they can trust the White House to live up to its end of any bargains.


Obama spins 'public option': "Now, the only thing that I have said is that having a public option in that menu would provide competition for insurance companies to keep them honest."

Fact: Obama's effort to distance himself from the increasingly unpopular public option plan – which originally meant a publicly subsidized and operated healthcare insurance option – is complicated by his prior statements. Before he began his presidential run in earnest, Obama favored universal, single-payer (government) health insurance. In a June letter to Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., posted on Obama's Organizing for America Web site, Obama stated: "I strongly believe that Americans should have the choice of a public health insurance option operating alongside private plans. This will give them a better range of choices, make the healthcare market more competitive, and keep insurance companies honest." In July, when his chief of staff suggested the public option might be jettisoned, Obama released a statement reaffirming his commitment to the proposals then on the table for government-subsidized healthcare, saying it was "one of the best ways to bring down costs, provide more choices and assure quality is a public option that will force the insurance companies to compete and keep them honest."


Preventive care saves money: "And finally – this is important – we will require insurance companies to cover routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies – (applause) – because there's no reason we shouldn't be catching diseases like breast cancer and prostate cancer on the front end. That makes sense, it saves lives; it also saves money – and we need to save money in this health care system."

Fact: No one can dispute that catching diseases as early as possible is a laudable goal. But the president's assertion that preventative healthcare will generate savings and reduce healthcare costs – as logical as it may sounds -- is a myth.

Douglas W. Elmendorf, director of the Congressional Budget Office, recently addressed this point in a seven-page letter posted on CBO.gov. "Although different types of preventive care have different effects on spending, the evidence suggests that for most preventive services, expanded utilization leads to higher, not lower, medical spending overall." While that finding may seem counterintuitive, Elmendorf explains: "To avert one case of acute illness, it is usually necessary to provide preventive care to many patients, most of whom would not have suffered that illness anyway. Even when the unit cost of a particular preventive service is low, costs can accumulate quickly when a large number of patients are treated preventively." Again, that's not to suggest that preventative care isn't a good idea. But the unfortunate reality is it will drive healthcare costs up, not down.


Obama promises reform won't increase the deficit: "First of all, I said I won't sign a bill that adds to the deficit or the national debt. OK? So this will have to be paid for."

Fact: The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the cost of healthcare at more than $1 trillion over 10 years. The proposals made to reduce that cost – such as raising taxes on those earning more than $250,000 per year – have yet to make the bill deficit-neutral. The CBO estimates it will increase the deficit by $239 billion over the next decade. But even if Obama and congressional Democrats find a way to bridge that gap, the real cost of the current proposals comes after year 10. Based on CBO estimates that the net new costs of the program will increase by 8 percent per year, the Wall Street Journal estimates that by 2020, red ink generated by current proposals will tally over $188 billion – per year. The Journal adds, "As for the spending, when has a new entitlement ever come in under budget?"

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 11^th, 2009 at 8:57pm:



You believe the Lewin Group?

Cmon, you're not serious.