"even a miracle worker like Me wouldn't tackle the typos in a  typical Pdoggy post...then again, Pdiddy rarely, if ever, spouts off about his intellectual superiority or calls his detractors stupid."

it's all passion, christ...

Jesus Christ wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 10:55am:


i don't think they make spell checks that big!

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 12:09pm:


I may agree with nankerphelge also I'm not American.. about what (He?) says of the first amendament
free to be tolerant with each other...
I too I'm not religius at all.. but I'm tryin to make undertanding with the people

... and I can say.. with thousands of years with a pope in its own home..
I may say you who are the fanatic and the maniac

the fake and arrogant ones

....Be happy to be free from religion connect with politics
and ect.

well after some months, are you glad of your President?
has him doing a good job?
I from the outside, can't see  or check

C'mon now Pugnuts...Fox News was a hoot back in the good old days when all they did was carp about Bill Clinton's blowjob...but get a grip!

Our first black president is a Nazi?

Who'd have imagined that our first black president would turn out to be a Nazi? Just when you think political discourse can't get any uglier, Rush Limbaugh is comparing President Obama to Hitler and calling all Democrats Nazis, while the frothing right-wingers turning Democrats' town halls into "town hells" routinely refer to Obama and his supporters as "brownshirts." Right-wing blogger Steve Gilbert has transformed Obama's healthcare reform logo into a Nazi symbol by cleverly adding a swastika; meanwhile, some Republicans insist Democrats are lying about "town hell" rowdies carrying signs with swastikas, but they're the ones with a problem telling the truth.

If you thought right-wingers' claim that Obama is a racist was projection, here's another case study for psychology students everywhere. At district meetings Democrats are being shouted down by angry mobs inflamed by corporate interests spewing lies about healthcare reform -- Maryland Rep. Frank Kratovil was hung in effigy. Rep. Tim Bishop needed a police escort to his car, Rep. Brad Miller reports death threats, while Republican Todd Akin of Missouri joked -- to cheers from his GOP audience -- that his Democratic colleagues "almost got lynched" by the "town hell" rowdies. Glenn Beck is joking about poisoning Nancy Pelosi's wine -- but it's the Democrats who are Nazis, fascists and brownshirts. Got it.

It was just a few years ago that MoveOn was pilloried -- by the mainstream media, not just the right -- when a couple of filmmakers used Bush-as-Hitler imagery in a video contest. MoveOn quickly took the videos down and apologized, but the controversy boiled for days. Sure, some on the left continued to refer to the administration as fascists or as Nazis, but they were mostly marginalized. Now two of the biggest right-wing pundits, with huge megaphones on the radio and Fox News, call Obama Hitler, and the media mostly shrug.

It may be that the Republican Party has reached such an all-time rhetorical and political low that reporters and pundits are having outrage fatigue. Maybe depicting a black president as both a Nazi and a racist barely shocks anymore. But the rhetoric and hysteria are getting worse, and mainstream Republicans really need to call it out.

To her credit, Republican columnist Kathleen Parker did just that in the Washington Post Wednesday, noting the distortion and even racism behind the worst attacks on Obama. She blamed it on the fact that "the GOP is fast becoming regionalized below the Mason-Dixon line and increasingly associated with some of the South's worst ideas." Noting the prevalence of "Birther" sympathies in the South, she concluded: "Southern Republicans, it seems, have seceded from sanity."

I've seen Republican leaders -- and even some thoughtful folks in my letters -- try to argue that these town-hall protests are a spontaneous display of populist anger, but I don't think that's true. Even if they aren't being paid by the insurance lobby to turn out at these meetings (and some of them may well be), these angry citizens are being mobilized by lies and shrill rhetoric. At Blue Dog Rep. Mike Ross' town hall, he was shouted down by a woman insisting Obama supports a single-payer (government) insurance plan, which is simply not true. Another woman began sobbing, talking about what her country has become, ending, "I'm scared!" They're being terrified by false claims that Obama is promoting mandatory end-of-life "counseling" (read assisted suicide), mandatory gender-change surgery (!) and aiming to eliminate private insurance. (Let's hope the unhinged turnout gets Ross to support the president, not the people mobilizing the folks shouting him down.)

The "town hells," in short, don't represent populism, they're a display of hysteria fed by lies peddled by GOP leaders and corporate interests. And it's getting worse.

In a related tangent, I was stunned by Editor and Publisher's report that AP, the New York Times and other news organizations quoted liberally from Pittsburgh health club murderer George Sodini's diaries, but left out his racist diatribes against Obama. The diary in fact began the day after Obama was elected, and Sodini wrote, "Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man." He then goes on to complain that white "hoes" are choosing black men over him. In the last four months we've seen three mass shootings -- the Pittsburgh cop killings, the Holocaust Museum murders and now this -- in which the murderer has ranted crazily about Obama. I worry with good reason that the Sodini assault won't be the last.


-- Joan Walsh

Republicans aren't Nazis. Democrats aren't Nazis. As soon as Barry or Rush or whoever in power start to line the other side up against walls and shoot them, then we can talk.

Until that happens, whoever refers to the other side as a Nazi will be a giant putz with absolutely no understanding of history in my book.

Generally, no comment.
But I do not believe I ever said homosexuality is immoral.
That just doesn't sound like me.

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 2:50pm:


i repsect the no comment... since it is personal, and our morals come from what we learn and experience and our families ect...i am curious, are you agnostic or atheist?
I may and have confused you with someone else...  So, is it safe to say, in your opinion homosexuals for the most part are as moral as heterosexuals... does that sound like you?

If someone is immoral, it is not because of their homosexuality.
If someone is heterosexual, they can still be immoral.
That sounds like me.

And I don't really know the differences between agnostic and aetheist.
I know me.
What will likely be a surprise to fuman, is that as a trained engineer/scientist, I too believe in science over aligning myself with any religion.

And I don't mean "junk science" used in legal, political or theological skirmishes - anyone will say anything for the right "reward" - money, prestige, publicity, etc.   I mean science of what we are, where we come from, how we got here, etc. that is based more on understanding the facts than spinning certain of them to push an agenda.  I realize that can be a tough line to draw, but I trust in my ability to draw it.

And over the years I have balanced that understanding with my understandings of religion.
My mother came from a devout Catholic upbringing.  Church every day and twice on Sunday.
She hated it - it drove her from the church.
I married a Catholic woman and my kids were raised Catholic.
I went to church with them on occasion - and while I did not hate it, I could never get past things in it that just didn't add up to me.  Things I could not reconcile. 

And to me, it came down to logic.

#1
If there is a heaven, and a god, and a life everafter, and I don't believe in it, I know what I am getting - a full and fun life unencumbered by "sins".  And if I am wrong, and there is a heaven, well I lived a fun life and when I die I pay forever in hell.

VS


#2
I should lead a life based in measure on my belief that I need to reject "sin" and lead a wholesome, Wonderbread kinda existence, with the understanding that any straying into sin costs me, but in the end, if I am forgiven, I will be in heaven for eternity.  Unless there isn't a heaven, and you just die and spend eternity in the ground rotting, and you didn't have that fun cuz it was "sinful", and the fun you did have you were taught to feel guilty about, and now I have all eternity to not be able to think about what a bad choice that was!

BUT I don't know if I am right or wrong, and so I try not to be so presumptious as to discount someone else's decision to believe in religion, and god, and heaven.

That's all I have to say about that.

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:42pm:




An atheist is an agnostic, who has thought about it more.

Jesus Christ wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:32pm:



Right on.

Someone even asked (in this thread a while back) what Obama's dick tastes like. You know, inquiring minds want to know . . .
I had a good response line, but decided to let it go.

wow

Jesus Christ wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:32pm:




Let's get something clear. Obama is no Nazi. He is an outright Marxist.

Kind of funny watching our dear JC/Flea here trying to equate what's happening at these town hall meetings as the closest thing to "actual, historical Nazism".  That's laugh out loud funny! I'll bet you thought the exact same thing when the Minutemen were shouted down, huh, JC? Or do think that the Minutemen were the ones behaving like Nazis?


Hey fucknut how do you jibe the fact that the poll numbers completely reinforce the fact that so many people are showing up to protest this socialist takeover of our health care system? You can't.

These Dems are so stunned by the overwhelming disgust at their power grab that they have no clue as to how to handle it. So they use tactics similar to what JC/Flea is trying here. They try to marginalize the people who are protesting. This is going to prove to be their great undoing, and great thinkers like JC/Flea are too stupid, and ideologically driven to see it.


I hate to break to you JC/Flea, but these people are nothing like "actual, historical Nazism". They are Americans that are fed up with a Democrat party that is overreaching in a huge way.



Sure is funny watching you compare them to Nazis though. You do that without even the slightest hint of irony. I mean it is your own messiah that claimed that most of what he has learned in life he learned through community activism. The Community Activist In Chief is now getting treated with the exact same methods as those ACORN members that Mr. Marxist himself used to preach to from his own bible- Rules For Radicals. Kind of pussified to bitch about community activism when your claim to fame is as a community activist! LOL!


"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky




Riffy

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:42pm:


Agnostic would fit you, we are much alike in this regard... the only difference may be, I still beleive in God and follow no religion...

"I realize that can be a tough line to draw, but I trust in my ability to draw it."

That very same thing, is what I call my god conscious. An intuitive thought or feeling, to do the right thing, with no thought of self or reward.

"and while I did not hate it, I could never get past things in it that just didn't add up to me.  Things I could not reconcile. 
And to me, it came down to logic."

While i respect people of faith, from all religions and denomintations or lack of... I do not as a whole like or trust large religous institutions. I can reconcile God, just by simply remembering a feeling, like seeing my children born, and feeling connected to something, and that was good enough. yet, I'm unable to accept policies and histories of the big religions. I had to reconcile those things, yet it was easy, to divorce god from that... I have never seen an act of god that I consider aligned with the horros commited by men, in the name of god. We will all die, so floods, fires disease are all part of life, and of god. It is when I see slfishness and self interest, put bfore God, in the name of God, is when you will see a rejection from me. I do not believe you have to tolerate something that offends you as a human being. If that was the case, there wouldn't be a debate on many things. most of us aren't directly effected by certain moral issues, it isn't until a person who seeks power, inserts said issue into society, that debate, and friction begin. A perfect example, for me is, an abrotion happens all the time, a disturbing horrible thing. The truth is, it has been a long time, since anyone I knew was directly effected by one. That for me is where I use alot of logic and try to reconcile religion, and overthink it. I have come to the conclussion, no matter what side anyone is on, even with that one issue, it is usually not really their business to begin with...
On a side note, it's no surprise to me, all religions have a certain take of the golden rule, and most people of faith and religion are kind peaceful people. It's very small numbers who corrupt and pervert those beliefs. Most of what you will get from me, is my direct experience with those who pervert them... white christianity is what is most in my life experience... and too bad for them, that's who I least tolerate. Tolerance is most overstated and misused. No ne should be forced to tolerate something they find offensive. If I see two dudes making out, I just move on... i found it didn't really bug me that much, same if I see some street corner preacher telling me of the worlds sin... I just move on. My home is my castle!!! All tolerance ends at my door, just ask peddlers and mormons!!!