Riffhard wrote on Jul 28
th, 2009 at 6:37pm:
You want civility? Okay no sweat. Let's see all the Obama supporters defend this.
Here's what Obama had to say about rushing bills through before anyone had a chance to read them.
This is from 2004 on Air America on the Randi Rhodes show.
BARACK OBAMA: ...When you rush these budgets that are a foot high and nobody has any idea what's in them and nobody has read them.
RANDI RHODES: 14 pounds it was!
BARACK OBAMA: Yeah. And it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate then these kinds of things happen. And I think that this is in some ways what happened to the Patriot Act. I mean you remember that there was no real debate about that. It was so quick after 9/11 that it was introduced that people felt very intimidated by the administration.
Now it's important to keep this in the context of what Obama said about the bills that he would propose, and push through congress. If you don't remember then allow me to refresh your memory. Barack Obama said that all bills would be posted on the internet for a full five days so that the public could review said bills. Since that time the Stimulus bill was passed to the tune of 787 billion dollars. That bill was handed to House members with less than 24 hours to read it, and it was never put on the internet! So far we've lost 2.5 milion jobs and the bill has done nothing to stop the "worst recession since The Great Depression".
Then came the Omnibus bill to the tune of additional 410 billion dollars. How many days did the public get to peruse that bill? None! It too was passed with not one member of congress reading it all the way through!
We can't forget about the Cap and Trade (tax and kill) bill either. That was posted on the internet only after it passed the House vote!!! To date not one single House member can honestly say that they read the entire bill. The CBO has predicted that this bil alone would kill millions of American jobs. Did any of you Obama supporters read that bill? Didn't think so.
Now we have this disastrous health care bill being bandied about, and no one soul in congress has any real idea what's in it! All we know for sure is that the president says we must pass it now! Everything must be passed right now! Have you Obama supporters noticed that?
Please note that I never used the word drone in this entitre post. I have been nothing but respectful, so please respond likewise.
Are you Obama supporters so certain that this president has any idea of what he's doing? Because I could give muliple examples of pure incompetence that if left unchecked will utterly destroy the economic infrastructure of this nation. I personally believe that he is doing this intentionally. Why do you think that Riffy? Because that is exactly what Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals proposes that any good lefty should do. Destroy the free market capitalist system so that you can replace with a system that is "more fair". You Obama supporters honestly believe that Barack Obama thinks it's fair for any of you to live the American Dream? If so you're dellusional.
Riffy
PS-Notice how Barack Obama slammed the Patriot Act? Funny, huh? A bill that was designed for the sole reason of keeping us safe from another terrorist attack, and Barack Obama goes after that. However, when it comes to spending the next four generations into the largest debt ever he has no problem with that. Defend that Obama supporters. Was he lying then, or is he lying now? My guess is then and now.
and i agree with obama being hypocritcalll, but the PA is not solely to keep us safe from attacks, there's stuff in there that had nothing to do national defense...
As for the pork, a few examples will give you the flavor of how out-of-control it has become:
Boeing was given a five-year, $1.37 billion contract to equip U.S. airports with "bomb screening devices" that experts say are "laughingly ineffective."
Northrop Grumman "landed a $350 million contract to construct a DHS data network.
"First-responder training facilities are springing up like toadstools after a rainstorm. The Nevada Test Site . . . which trains 3,000 fire fighters, paramedics, and policemen annually, is slated to quintuple that number as the DHS money rolls in."
The new Hampshire town of Bennington, population 1, 272, spent part of its Homeland Security grant to buy chemical weapons suits – just in case bin Laden chose Bennington as his next maximum impact target.
Local police departments in New Hampshire will get access to "satellite television channels that transmit continuous news," courtesy of a DHS grant.
Colchester, Vermont, population 18,000, received a DHS grant to purchase a "search-and-rescue vehicle" that "can bore through concrete and search for victims in collapsed buildings."
Thanks to the influence of Dick Cheney, "Wyoming receives more money per capita than any other state in homeland security grants."
And naturally, "a non-state – the District of Columbia – is far and away the biggest recipient of homeland security grants per capita," receiving more than twice as much as Dick Cheney’s home state.
Citgo, Conoco-Phillips, and Shell received tens of millions of dollars in DHS grants for "refiner security," something they are very well equipped to finance themselves.
The former mayor of Washington, D.C., Sharon Pratt, received a no-bid "bioterrorism consulting contract" for $236,000.
Forty "young people" in Washington, D.C. were paid by a DHS grant to "rap and dance about emergency preparedness."
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