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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
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Barry O voodoo doll    
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Hoffa's body    
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DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
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JC's boss's phone number    
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bucket of chicken    
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three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #6250 - Jul 23rd, 2009 at 7:56pm
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The stock market's going up.


I blame Obama... I mean Bush... er, Clinton!!! Ford and Nixon!!! Reagan trickled it down... Carter, welcome back!!!
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What if the right becomes the anti war party?
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As the Afghan war escalates, it becomes painfully obvious that the Democratic Party and its leftist allies will not serve as a force for peace, and will support American violence abroad so long as a Democratic President is in office. This is an inevitable feature of the two party political system dominated by the military industrial complex and no amount of effort will change that. Instead what will likely happen is that anti war forces will continue to be further marginalized and ridiculed by the Democratic establishment, as has already happened with such anti war activists as Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink.

But another feature of the two party system is that if one party goes one way, the other party has to go the other way. Libertarian ideology can easily become a foundation for anti war sentiment, take Pat Buchanan, or Antiwar.com, or this article in the American Conservative. If this trend continues, what will become of the former left wing anti war movement? Will they ally with those on the right wing that feel the same, or will the movement remained divided in the face of the centrist pro war consensus.

I have often been called out on this site for not being a partisan Democrat, and it is true, I am an anarchist, who often finds himself in sympathy with many leftist views, such as universal health care, but who is utterly disguisted with the emerging consensus supporting the ongoing escalation of the American wars in Central Asia.  At a certain distance from the American political discourse, the supposedly opposing positions of the two parties often appear indistinguishable, especially in foreign policy.   Everybody wants to bomb something, but the target list is different.  Bill Clinton bombed Serbia and Iraq, George W. Bush bombed Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain wants to bomb Iran and Samantha Powers wants to bomb Sudan, but bombs are bombs and tear human flesh apart the same way.  Nation building occupations have now been accepted by both sides as practicable and positively good.

The Obama Pentagon is just as repugnant to me as the Bush Pentagon, in part because the same exact people, from Robert Gates to David Petreaus to Cheney's assassination ring commander Stanley McChrystal, have been put in charge by Obama and the same policies have been maintained. In fact, in Afghanistan, Obama appears to be going beyond the Bush administration, doubling the number of troops, increasing airstrikes in Pakistani territory, launching new bloody offensives, and there is no end in sight. In fact, further escalation at this point seems inevitable, and the Democratic Senate has just voted 93-1 to increase the size of the US Army by another 30,000 troops, who will be sent into the Afghan meat grinder as soon as they are out of basic training.  This increase is unfunded, so Obama will have to get an emergency spending bill to pay for it, a Bush era approach that Obama had previously condemned but has continued.  Predictably, opposition to the return to misleading permanent emergency funding of the current wars drew opposition only from Antiwar.com and some left wing bloggers (not the staunchly loyalist DailyKos).  Of course, all the accounting gimmicks cannot obfuscate the fact that despite some cosmetic cutbacks (7 less F-22s will be built), the Pentagon budget has increased under Obama, and will continue to do so as the Afghan war becomes increasingly massive and expensive. If you thought supplying 150,000 troops in Iraq through the Persian Gulf and Turkey was expensive, you can double that for keeping a force of that size in Afghanistan supplied via overland routes stretching thousands of miles through Pakistan and Russia.

Speaking of Russia, Biden is over in Georgia now, reassuring the Georgian dictator, who exists solely on American support and aid, that the US stands behind Georgia on its continued course of confrontation with Russia. Recent American military maneuvers in Georgia and hints regarding American willingness to sell heavy weaponry to Georgia underscore the point. On a previous stop in the Ukraine, Biden stated explicitly that the US would not any zone of influence for Russia in its immediate neighborhood.  Such zones of influence must remain one of America’s unique prerogatives as the world’s hyperpower, but as always, Joe puts it best: "We recognize no sphere of influence, or no ability of any other nation to veto the choices an independent nation makes as to with whom and under what conditions they will associate." (Emphasis mine).  I guess this is why the US keeps arresting Iranian diplomats in Iraq, because this principle only applies to "other" nations.

America’s real policy toward Russia was humorously encapsulated in a recent gaffe.  Hillary Clinton presented Russian President with a button mechanism marked "Reset" in English and its equivalent in Russian.  Apart from the fact that only to the Americans would such a juvenile gimmick seem appropriate and that all the Russians were visibly wincing, the translation into Russian had been botched.  Instead of reading "reset," the button read "overload."  But she didn’t hand out cowboy hats and boots, and this seems to be the main distinction between Bush and Obama’s policy toward Russia. 

And yet, there is no opposition to the escalation in Afghanistan or the continuation of other American bellicose policies. A 93-1 vote seems pretty conclusive to me, the Democrats are behind Obama and Republicans love spending money on war, so who's complaining (the solitary dissenter was Russ Feingold, who wants more cutbacks in Iraq). Furthermore, observing the diary activity on the DailyKos, it is clear that the vast majority is prepared to continue supporting Obama's militaristic policies. After all, he told us during the campaign that he was going to escalate Afghanistan, so what's the problem?

So where does that leave the marginals who continue to desire peace above all? Looking around the political spectrum, we begin to realize that the only other group that will stand with us in opposing the wars are the libertarians and various paranoid right wingers afraid of growing government and international entanglements (affectionately referred to as Paultards here). This thinking informs the American Conservative article, which attacks long time Obama ally Samantha Powers for being a war hawk, although her reasons are humanitarian and not neocon/geopolitical in nature. She wants US intervention for human rights, she hails the brutal bombing of the Serbian people in the 1990s and wants to see the same tactics deployed against the Sudan, and other human rights violators. Doubtless, the article was published mainly because it attacked an Obama Administration official, but the person who wrote it is closer to me than any Democrat who would support any American assault on countries posing no threat to the US.

This expose of American imperialist hubris contained in the article could have easily come from the pen of Noam Chomsky, or even from some of the last leftist antiwar figures who are still palatable to the mainstream pro war Democratic majority, such as Glenn Greenwald. Already, people on the DailyKos are turning on Greenwald because of his increasingly strident outrage regarding the Obama Administration’s continuation of Bush ear torture and detention policies, which the consensus here defends as alternatively necessary or accidental.  If Greenwald keeps going down this path, how long until he is relegated to the ranks of "anti American" fringe cooks like Noam Chomsky, and deleted from the leftist blogroll. 

So what is to be done when the Democrats and the Republicans present a united pro war front, and seek to marginalize those of us who continue to point out the insanity of America's ongoing wars and the war crimes being committed in the process?  As right wing opposition gradually grows stronger as more and more right wingers take on the anti war position as a way to criticize Obama and the Democrats, will the marginalized left wing anti war forces stand by and let the movement be redefined as a conservative opposition movement in the vein of conservative opposition to FDR's bringing the US into the Second World War? Or can an apolitical ant war movement transcend the fairly arbitrary American political dualism (for the life of me I can't tell the centrists apart - though the bomb throwers on both sides do come off different even if they both throw their bombs in the service of the same regime and the bombs seem to always land on brown people in the Third World who happen to be sitting on some natural resources).

The same dynamic, incidentally, is in play also in the domestic counterpart to America’s militarism abroad, the internal police state.  There are those on both the left and the right who stand against the increasingly militarized police forces, in their zero tolerance rampage, packing our prisons with millions of our countrymen.  Those on the right oppose it because they think it’s the prelude to a coming totalitarian regime, and those on the left oppose it because of civil rights considerations and the obvious racism and classism of the police state.  Those on the left think the right wing opponents are paranoid militia wackos, and those on the right think the left wing opponents are bleeding hearts or reverse racists or some such thing.   As a result, both sides of the opposition remain marginalized, as the center continues to expand the police forces, pass more draconian sentencing laws, and build more prisons. 

I know that for the people here, the political divisions are very significant, and an alliance with libertarian forces is out of the question, in contradiction to Barack Obama’s own favored approach of seeking out such areas of agreement in order to come together as a nation.  Bipartisanship is acceptable on war funding bills, but not on war opposition, it appears. But at what point do our duty to humanity and the absolute moral imperative to oppose butchers as they systematically cleave their way across the globe transcend American domestic politics and link all of the people opposed to war together, regardless of their other political positions?  Is the construct of the American two party system so strong as to override such moral concerns? Are the psychological barriers created within us by systematic indoctrination dividing the people into warring camps too great to overcome, even while the actual disagreements between the camps largely come down to symbolic issues and 93-1 votes to expand the wars? Because if they are, the anti war movement in American will remain impotent and marginal, as the militarists intend it to be, and the world will continue to tremble under the boot of the American "liberators."
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Reply #6253 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 10:58am
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Last week Obama sports a White Sox jacket at the All-Star game.

Yesterday, White Sox pitcher Mark Buerhle pitches a Perfect Game!



Coincidence? Hardly!  Just another example of the Obama touch working its magic!
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Reply #6254 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:27am
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Pdog wrote on Jul 23rd, 2009 at 8:38pm:
Zack wrote on Jul 23rd, 2009 at 7:56pm:
The stock market's going up.


I blame Obama... I mean Bush... er, Clinton!!! Ford and Nixon!!! Reagan trickled it down... Carter, welcome back!!!




Call me when it reaches 1300 like it did under Bush. Barry hasn't had a goddamned thing to do with the rise of the DOW, and if you knew anything at all about Wall Street you'd know that. I know quite a few people that work on Wall Street, and to a man and woman they despise Obama. They hate him with white hot passion, as well they should! Ever notice how this piece of shit president always tries to play the wealth card? Notice how this fucking Marxist always tries to turn the average American against the wealthy? Of course you haven't noticed that! Everything, and I mean absolutely everything that Barry is doing is straight out of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals! Everything!!! Have you read it yet? There is no denying what this ideologue is up to if you bother take the time to study what he has studied his whole life.


Obama sucks with teeth!

Isn't great the way Obama threw that cop under the bus because the cop had the nerve to arrest a fucking elitist prick who immediately screamed racism?! I'm so fucking sick of liberals! That fucking asshole should have had his ass kicked! Fuck him! Even his own neighbors stated that he was acting belligerent towards the cop. What would have happened had you done that Pdog? You'd get your ass thrown to the ground and cuffed. So too would I have. This fucking cocksucker immediately plays the race card, and then tells the cop that he's friends with Obama. What does Obama do? He comes to his friend's defence immediately without knowing any of the facts! Yet some here are still trying to defend this piece of shit president. Fuck him! He is deliberately trying to destroy a white cop for what? Because that's what ideologues do!!! They must fan the flames of resentment! That's what Saul Alinsky told him to do! Be it race, wealth, or anything else. Barry will do everything he can to do what all good community activists do. Stir the pot. Always agitate! Who said that? That's right Saul Alinsky!!!



The truth is so blatantly obvious that I am still shocked that some people are too stubborn, or stupid, to see it for what it is!



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Reply #6255 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:42am
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So far India, China, and Mexico have refused to curb any of their respective carbon emissions. Why? Because they know damned good and well that it would destroy their economies. What's Barry's answer? He's going to insist on Cap and Trade anyway! Great! He's going to kill our economy and our status as the world's leading economy because he wants too! This man is a menace. People had better start to wake the hell up about his goals, or we are all going to pay a terrible price.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2896b88-77bd-11de-9713-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check...


The good news is that his approval numbers are sinking faster than any president since before WWII. That includes Bush there fellas! LOL!!!!! He sucks! Many people are strating to ssee that. Some are still drinking the Kool Aid.



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Reply #6256 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 2:12pm
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Riffhard wrote on Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:27am:
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Zack wrote on Jul 23rd, 2009 at 7:56pm:
The stock market's going up.


I blame Obama... I mean Bush... er, Clinton!!! Ford and Nixon!!! Reagan trickled it down... Carter, welcome back!!!



I know quite a few people that work on Wall Street, and to a man and woman they despise Obama.



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I wish i had a dollar for every post you've made, stating you know someone (insert place or job or whatever), and they hate (insert name). I know people too, everyone does... Have you ever noticed how much eleitism you post? I know, I read, You're stupid... on and on... you' act like the thing you condemn... have you noticed that, because I know a person who posts here, who also noticed it...
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Reply #6257 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 2:13pm
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Reply #6258 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 2:47pm
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Pdog wrote on Jul 24th, 2009 at 2:12pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:27am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 23rd, 2009 at 8:38pm:
Zack wrote on Jul 23rd, 2009 at 7:56pm:
The stock market's going up.


I blame Obama... I mean Bush... er, Clinton!!! Ford and Nixon!!! Reagan trickled it down... Carter, welcome back!!!



I know quite a few people that work on Wall Street, and to a man and woman they despise Obama.



Riffy


I wish i had a dollar for every post you've made, stating you know someone (insert place or job or whatever), and they hate (insert name). I know people too, everyone does... Have you ever noticed how much eleitism you post? I know, I read, You're stupid... on and on... you' act like the thing you condemn... have you noticed that, because I know a person who posts here, who also noticed it...



P the bottom line is this. I have posted that I know many people in the military. I do. I come from a military family. They hate Barry. Rightfully so.

I also know many people that work on Wall Street. I licve in Jersey, and have friends and neighbors that work there for various companies. Stock traders, bond traders, and the like. In fact our mutual pal Macky works there. What do you think his take on Barry is? Suffice to say he is far from alone in his opinion of Barry's idiocy.

As for me being an elitest. Right. The fact is that I am just stunned that some here don't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. You said in an earlier post that I always defended Bush no matter what. That is simply not true! I bitched about his spending on a regular basis. In fact I hold Bush to blame for much of what Barry is unleashing on us now.

Barry constantly reminds everybody that he was handed a deficit of 1.75 trillion dollars. The drones always point to that and say idiotic shit like, "Yeah, it's Bush's fault!" Yet they never take into account that most of that deficit was created by insane spending on bailouts, and not Iraq! Bailouts, mind you, that Obama voted in favor of!!! Now that Barry's in charge he's still trying to shift the blame to Bush, and in the process he has spent four and a half times what it took Bush a full eight years to spend in only six months!How any drone can try and lay that idiocy at the feet of Bush is not just stunning. It's flat out stupid, and intellectually dishonest.


If it makes me an elitest to just point out some facts that drones always ignore, then I happily own it. Even when I know that that is a crap argument.


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Reply #6259 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 6:30pm
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I see what's happening, but don't agree with your OPINION that Obama wants to destroy America. That he is a full blown Marxist.
A Muslim Marxist Socialist bent on destroying America. He reads books that you don't approve of.

Once you state that position, it's taints everything that follows. It's delirium.

The deficit is huge, we all see that. You could even assign your favorite term "FACT" to this statement.
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Reply #6260 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 6:31pm
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Ahhhh what a week!

The Pelosi House is imploding over the massive stench eminating from the Healthcare bill.
Hillary got gutted by India, North Korea and Israel this week -- that is SOME diplomacy there!

Our President's approval ratings are tanking
And we have only just begun to see the fallout of his athlete's mouth on the Cambridge Police

I feel great.
Isn't about time for Joe Biden to fuck up!?

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Reply #6261 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 7:25pm
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I see what's happening, but don't agree with your OPINION that Obama wants to destroy America. That he is a full blown Marxist.
A Muslim Marxist Socialist bent on destroying America. He reads books that you don't approve of.

Once you state that position, it's taints everything that follows. It's delirium.

The deficit is huge, we all see that. You could even assign your favorite term "FACT" to this statement.


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Reply #6262 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 7:27pm
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Ahhhh what a week!

The Pelosi House is imploding over the massive stench eminating from the Healthcare bill.
Hillary got gutted by India, North Korea and Israel this week -- that is SOME diplomacy there!

Our President's approval ratings are tanking
And we have only just begun to see the fallout of his athlete's mouth on the Cambridge Police

I feel great.
Isn't about time for Joe Biden to fuck up!?




Well what great news for you. You should be on cloud nine in 7 1/2 years . . .
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Reply #6263 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 10:03am
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory
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Reply #6264 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 10:09am
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory




Please refer to the Obamadrones' talking points for the correct response to these reports.


"It's Bush's fault!"

"Things would have been worse without Barack's leadership!"

"Give him a chance! It's only been six months!"



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In a significant change, the Obama administration will now allow lobbyists to meet and have telephonic discussions with government officials regarding economic recovery projects.

The lifting of the ban comes after K Street has cried foul for months and has challenged the White House on its restrictions.

In March, President Obama announced that government officials would not be allowed to consider the views of lobbyists regarding specific stimulus projects unless the requests are put in writing. The materials also had to be posted on an agency’s website within three business days of receipt. Lobbyists have said that the policy was one more example of the administration's disdain for their industry.
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now you care about lobbyists? where was the concern when they wrote our envoirmental and energy policies?
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Reply #6267 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 1:27pm
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now you care about lobbyists? where was the concern when they wrote our envoirmental and energy policies?



I'm not trying to speak for Nanky here Pdog, but I took his post at face value. In other words, it's just another example of the worst president in US history lying. Again.

Barack Obama sucks. Some of us were smart enough to figure that a long time ago, some weren't.


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Reply #6268 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 1:59pm
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Pdog wrote on Jul 26th, 2009 at 1:07pm:
now you care about lobbyists? where was the concern when they wrote our envoirmental and energy policies?



I'm not trying to speak for Nanky here Pdog, but I took his post at face value. In other words, it's just another example of the worst president in US history lying. Again.

Barack Obama sucks. Some of us were smart enough to figure that a long time ago, some weren't.


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They all lie... some us are smart enough to not trust either dem or republican, and if you're not a member of either party, you can see how much they are alike and that this partisan shit is 99% hype, they create to keep the sheep passive and univolved and arguing about blowjobs, racism, birth certificates ect... guess what song is on right now? lies, from some girls.
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Reply #6269 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 2:18pm
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"I'm not trying to speak for Nanky here Pdog, but I took his post at face value. In other words, it's just another example of the worst president in US history lying."

Exactly.
Thought I was clear that Obama - Mr. Ethics, Mr. Transparency, Mr. Change - is none of the above.
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Reply #6270 - Jul 26th, 2009 at 4:01pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Jul 26th, 2009 at 2:18pm:
"I'm not trying to speak for Nanky here Pdog, but I took his post at face value. In other words, it's just another example of the worst president in US history lying."

Exactly.
Thought I was clear that Obama - Mr. Ethics, Mr. Transparency, Mr. Change - is none of the above.


I can't think of many politicans that are ethical, keep promises are accountable.... not many at all. Every president in my lifetime has said they will do these things, and none do...
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Reply #6271 - Jul 27th, 2009 at 7:32am
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Let's get ready to play!!

Rush or Riffy??



A-“Hey! You idiots who think Obama’s bill is going to solve your health problem immediately… guess what? It doesn’t start until 2013, and even then it’s not going to help you!”


B- "But to actually know about his DEEP ties with Ayers, his DEEP ties with the socialist/Marxist group ACORN, his DEEP ties to a racist minister, and a racist church, his DEEP ties with a convicted felon Tony Rezko, his DEEP ties with the very people that started the Fannie Mae mess (and thus the entire domino effect we see today with the economy, his DEEP ties to overseas contributors (totally illegal btw). That's right Barry has gotten over 100 million form overseas contributors! Many of them from Islamic terrorist states."

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By CHRIS FRATES, POLITICO

For the second time this month, congressional budget analysts have dealt a blow to the Democrat's health reform efforts, this time by saying a plan touted by the White House as crucial to paying for the bill would actually save almost no money over 10 years.

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That Bill stinks!

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Joey will be ecstatic:

WASHINGTON -- The feds are spending tens of millions of stimulus dollars to repair and build toilets across the nation, in an outflow of taxpayer funds that critics have branded "potty pork."

From humble sylvan outhouses to "historic" restrooms, cash from the $787 billion stimulus is going to spruce up or completely replace aging toilets, government releases show.

In New Mexico alone, the feds are spending $2.8 million for toilets in national forests.

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Reply #6274 - Jul 27th, 2009 at 8:42am
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 27th, 2009 at 7:32am:
Let's get ready to play!!

Rush or Riffy??



A-“Hey! You idiots who think Obama’s bill is going to solve your health problem immediately… guess what? It doesn’t start until 2013, and even then it’s not going to help you!”


B- "But to actually know about his DEEP ties with Ayers, his DEEP ties with the socialist/Marxist group ACORN, his DEEP ties to a racist minister, and a racist church, his DEEP ties with a convicted felon Tony Rezko, his DEEP ties with the very people that started the Fannie Mae mess (and thus the entire domino effect we see today with the economy, his DEEP ties to overseas contributors (totally illegal btw). That's right Barry has gotten over 100 million form overseas contributors! Many of them from Islamic terrorist states."




Wait...is the question who said it FIRST?

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I've gotta go with Rush.  There aren't
nearly enough swear words, insults or
exclamation points for Mr. Riffhard.
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