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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
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Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #6200 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:03am
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fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:02am:
By negating the effect that W's deregulation has had on our economy, you miss the point.
Clinton wasn't blameless in this deregulation either.

The day W was appointed, board rooms around the country celebrated. They continued
the party (on your dime) for years. Worldbank, Enron, etc. W did them right, us not so much.

After they have gambled your money away, W and Obama refilled their/our piggie banks.
Had he not done so, your bank would not have your deposits, or mine.

So Obama is spending too much?

You cry a lot now, can't imagine the balling that would occur if you got a big ZERO on your last bank/401k statement.

Mongo just a pawn in game of life . . .



You're almost as predictable as Barry is. You slam big business while at the same time putting all your faith in big government. Pretty stupid really. Was it big business that bankrupted Medicare? How about Medicaid? Social Security? NO, no, and no! It was big government, and the government has never been bigger than it is right now! Guess what funman? So far Team Barry has been wrong on every single economic prediction that they have publicly made! Every single one! Yet you still believe them. You are a hopeless drone destined to follow this band of idiots right off the cliff. You will happily ignore every single warning sign. Ignore everything but Barry's lies! He's doing great funman, and if anyone tells you differently you can always blame Bush! How enlightened of you!


Ladies and gentlemen funman is the very definition of an Obamadrone. It's a sad thing to witness. Don't let it happen to you or your family members.



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Reply #6201 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:27am
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Didn't george w. want to invest Social Security in the stock market? w. was the worst Prez in the history of the USA, or in the top three. How can you defend a man who lied to get us into war? He should have been impeached. The man, I use "man" loosely was a total disaster.


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Reply #6202 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:56pm
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Bingo wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:27am:
Didn't george w. want to invest Social Security in the stock market? w. was the worst Prez in the history of the USA, or in the top three. How can you defend a man who lied to get us into war? He should have been impeached. The man, I use "man" loosely was a total disaster.





Only half or even one quarter of the blame should be applied to W.
Factually, we all know now, that Cheney did the thinkun'. W did the decidun'.
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Reply #6203 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:59pm
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Riffhard wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:03am:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:02am:
By negating the effect that W's deregulation has had on our economy, you miss the point.
Clinton wasn't blameless in this deregulation either.

The day W was appointed, board rooms around the country celebrated. They continued
the party (on your dime) for years. Worldbank, Enron, etc. W did them right, us not so much.

After they have gambled your money away, W and Obama refilled their/our piggie banks.
Had he not done so, your bank would not have your deposits, or mine.

So Obama is spending too much?

You cry a lot now, can't imagine the balling that would occur if you got a big ZERO on your last bank/401k statement.

Mongo just a pawn in game of life . . .



You're almost as predictable as Barry is. You slam big business while at the same time putting all your faith in big government. Pretty stupid really. Was it big business that bankrupted Medicare? How about Medicaid? Social Security? NO, no, and no! It was big government, and the government has never been bigger than it is right now! Guess what funman? So far Team Barry has been wrong on every single economic prediction that they have publicly made! Every single one! Yet you still believe them. You are a hopeless drone destined to follow this band of idiots right off the cliff. You will happily ignore every single warning sign. Ignore everything but Barry's lies! He's doing great funman, and if anyone tells you differently you can always blame Bush! How enlightened of you!


Ladies and gentlemen funman is the very definition of an Obamadrone. It's a sad thing to witness. Don't let it happen to you or your family members.



Riffy



What's the matter RiffRaff, did you forget to have your daily Liberty Enema today?


PS You don't "tell people differently", you convince people otherwise. Not sure how things went in your family, so some advice seemed appropriate.
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Reply #6204 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 1:11pm
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fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:59pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:03am:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:02am:
By negating the effect that W's deregulation has had on our economy, you miss the point.
Clinton wasn't blameless in this deregulation either.

The day W was appointed, board rooms around the country celebrated. They continued
the party (on your dime) for years. Worldbank, Enron, etc. W did them right, us not so much.

After they have gambled your money away, W and Obama refilled their/our piggie banks.
Had he not done so, your bank would not have your deposits, or mine.

So Obama is spending too much?

You cry a lot now, can't imagine the balling that would occur if you got a big ZERO on your last bank/401k statement.

Mongo just a pawn in game of life . . .



You're almost as predictable as Barry is. You slam big business while at the same time putting all your faith in big government. Pretty stupid really. Was it big business that bankrupted Medicare? How about Medicaid? Social Security? NO, no, and no! It was big government, and the government has never been bigger than it is right now! Guess what funman? So far Team Barry has been wrong on every single economic prediction that they have publicly made! Every single one! Yet you still believe them. You are a hopeless drone destined to follow this band of idiots right off the cliff. You will happily ignore every single warning sign. Ignore everything but Barry's lies! He's doing great funman, and if anyone tells you differently you can always blame Bush! How enlightened of you!


Ladies and gentlemen funman is the very definition of an Obamadrone. It's a sad thing to witness. Don't let it happen to you or your family members.



Riffy



What's the matter RiffRaff, did you forget to have your daily Liberty Enema today?


PS You don't "tell people differently", you convince people otherwise. Not sure how things went in your family, so some advice seemed appropriate.



Convince them otherwise?! LOL! You?! Fat chance. You are never going to look at any facts that differ from your brainwashed view that Obama is doing all he can considering the mess that Bush left him. That's where the argument begins and ends with you. There is no convincing you of anything. Even when every single fact is against your side of the debate you won't see fit to look at them. To you, and those drones like you, any facts that don't support your position are nothing more than Limbaugh talking points. Thus, as I have stated over and over and over again, you are a drone. Own it.




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Reply #6205 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 1:15pm
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Riffhard wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 1:11pm:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:59pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:03am:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:02am:
By negating the effect that W's deregulation has had on our economy, you miss the point.
Clinton wasn't blameless in this deregulation either.

The day W was appointed, board rooms around the country celebrated. They continued
the party (on your dime) for years. Worldbank, Enron, etc. W did them right, us not so much.

After they have gambled your money away, W and Obama refilled their/our piggie banks.
Had he not done so, your bank would not have your deposits, or mine.

So Obama is spending too much?

You cry a lot now, can't imagine the balling that would occur if you got a big ZERO on your last bank/401k statement.

Mongo just a pawn in game of life . . .



You're almost as predictable as Barry is. You slam big business while at the same time putting all your faith in big government. Pretty stupid really. Was it big business that bankrupted Medicare? How about Medicaid? Social Security? NO, no, and no! It was big government, and the government has never been bigger than it is right now! Guess what funman? So far Team Barry has been wrong on every single economic prediction that they have publicly made! Every single one! Yet you still believe them. You are a hopeless drone destined to follow this band of idiots right off the cliff. You will happily ignore every single warning sign. Ignore everything but Barry's lies! He's doing great funman, and if anyone tells you differently you can always blame Bush! How enlightened of you!


Ladies and gentlemen funman is the very definition of an Obamadrone. It's a sad thing to witness. Don't let it happen to you or your family members.



Riffy



What's the matter RiffRaff, did you forget to have your daily Liberty Enema today?


PS You don't "tell people differently", you convince people otherwise. Not sure how things went in your family, so some advice seemed appropriate.



Convince them otherwise?! LOL! You?! Fat chance. You are never going to look at any facts that differ from your brainwashed view that Obama is doing all he can considering the mess that Bush left him. That's where the argument begins and ends with you. There is no convincing you of anything. Even when every single fact is against your side of the debate you won't see fit to look at them. To you, and those drones like you, any facts that don't support your position are nothing more than Limbaugh talking points. Thus, as I have stated over and over and over again, you are a drone. Own it.




Riffy



Jesus thinks you're a jerk (both figuratively and literally). Have a nice day . . .
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Reply #6206 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 2:16pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 8:29am:
Here's a long one - fair warning for libs that have neither the time nor the inclination to read...

Obama Just Might Be a Socialist

Monday, July 20, 2009 4:43 PM

By: Wayne Allyn Root  



Good read, Mr. Nankerphelge. I just LOVE Jeff
Foxworthy. He's ... Fox - worthy.

...
Wayne Allyn Root  (I think he's the one on the right)

It somehow figures that you would idolize someone
who goes by the acronym WAR.

Here's a link to a page of people talking about
what a scam artist WAR is. It's not from a den
of Liberal iniquity, it's a sports site and people
talking about his previous occupation  as a "tout".

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/23380-question-about-wayne-allyn-root.htm...

If you have neither the time or etc, here's an
average post:

Guy doesn't even believe his own BS. I can respect the guys
who at least think they can win and still are at best 50-50.
Wayne doesn't even believe he can win, this is just that scam
he knows he can make coin in so he does it. He runs boiler
rooms and is total marketing.


Pitching himself as "King of Las Vegas", he began dabbling in politics.
He wrote "Millionaire Republican" in 2005.  An excerpt:


"This professional prognosticator believes that the GOP will dominate
American politics (on all levels) for the foreseeable future."


...

After making a fortune scamming people, he became Bob Barr's running
mate.  From the non-Liberal blog Reason Magazine (Free Minds, Free Markets):

Worse yet, the conservative they picked was Wayne Allyn
Root, a man with the deportment of a Ronco pitchman with
a squirrel in his pants.


...

nankerphelge wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 8:29am:


If you think it's OK for government to tell GM and Chrysler what kind of cars to build . . . what size . . . what gas mileage . . . even if those "green cars" can never make a profit . . . even if the taxpayers will lose $100 billion dollars, YOU MIGHT BE A SOCIALIST.




...

Here's Mr. War with his ride.  Since he's gearing up for a revolution
of millionaire Republicans, I guess he needs a car like this.  




nankerphelge wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 8:29am:
It's time to stand up; it's time to fight; it's time to put manners and politeness aside; it's time to offend; it's time to yell, scream, protest and get angry; it's time to take action; it's time to take back our country before there is no country or economy left to take back, before the American Dream is dead, before capitalism is destroyed, before our children are enslaved by big government and big taxes for generations to come . . . I believe that it is time for a citizen revolution.



Wow. That is almost as stirring as Republicans singing Bob Marley songs.

And what form do you think this "citizen" revolution should take?  
Bloviating on message boards?

Or are you guys ready to put your God-given guns where your mouths are?

Seriously - to hear you fellas talk, President Obama is Public Enemy #1.
So what are you going to do about it? You've already "put manners and politeness aside".

...
What's your next move? Another tea party?


...
BTW, can you do a quick check on my bank
account and make sure my last check to the
ACLU cleared? TIA!
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Reply #6207 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 4:54pm
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TPM Reader AB:

    Just to mention something that is obvious, but hopefully not overlooked, i.e., if this country cannot pass a bill which insures that every citizen has access to medical care, which every developed country has managed to do (and got done many many years ago), there is something very fundamentally and structurally wrong with this country.

    Such an event, in my mind, would confirm that we live with a completely corrupt and dysfunctional form of government. Forty nine states, each with bicameral legislative bodies, some of which have distinguished themselves recently with unabashed levels of incompetency and cluelessness. Then, graft a federal government over that, which is also bicameral, the non-representative portion of it being filled with officials who are certifiable morons and/or who are bought and sold like whores by wealthy contributors.

    Talk about a Waterloo.

    This is a defining moment in our history. Do we fulfill our supposed status as a "shining city on a hill" or continue our long slow decline into a second rate oligarchy?

    I am not one prone to hyperbole.

    I believe this to the depths of my soul.
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Reply #6208 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 4:57pm
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from kos:

When teen pregnancy collides with wingnut ideology . . .

    Teenage pregnancies and syphilis have risen sharply among a generation of American school girls who were urged to avoid sex before marriage under George Bush's evangelically-driven education policy, according to a new report by the US's major public health body.

    In a report that will surprise few of Bush's critics on the issue, the Centres for Disease Control says years of falling rates of teenage pregnancies and sexually transmitted disease infections under previous administrations were reversed or stalled in the Bush years. According to the CDC, birth rates among teenagers aged 15 or older had been in decline since 1991 but are up sharply in more than half of American states since 2005. The study also revealed that the number of teenage females with syphilis has risen by nearly half after a significant decrease while a two-decade fall in the gonorrhea infection rate is being reversed. The number of Aids cases in adolescent boys has nearly doubled.

    The CDC says that southern states, where there is often the greatest emphasis on abstinence and religion, tend to have the highest rates of teenage pregnancy and STDs.

This is what happens when you abandon reality in favor of ideology.
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The ineptness continues unabated! Ladies and Gents, Barry is not only the worst president in US history, he's also the dumbest.


Case in point.



  WASHINGTON (AP) - A senior administration official says billions of dollars to raise fees for doctors treating Medicare patients are not covered by President Barack Obama's pledge to pay for health care legislation.
Budget Director Peter Orszag said Tuesday that's because the administration always assumed the money would be spent to prevent a cut of more than 20 percent in doctor fees.

The Congressional Budget Office said last Friday the higher payments cost $245 billion over 10 years. It said including the money in the overall bill would result in deficits totaling $239 billion.


On Friday, a few hours earlier, the president declared: "I've said that health-insurance reform cannot add to our deficit over the next decade. And I mean it."






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Reply #6210 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 5:09pm
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"It somehow figures that you would idolize someone  
who goes by the acronym WAR."

Jesus Jesus, when did I say I idolized the guy.
I saw the article and thought it was funny.
I never even heard of the guy before - not sure why you felt the need to waste all the government time to provide his bio.

Whatever - glad you are reading tho...

What's that?
Oh sure, here ya go...

With the public’s trust in his handling of health care tanking (50%-44% of Americans disapprove), the White House has launched a new phase of its strategy designed to pass Obamacare: all Obama, all the time. As part of that effort, Obama hosted a conference call with leftist bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible.

During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” President Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.” (quote begins at 17:10)

This is a truly disturbing admission by the President, especially considering that later in the call, Obama promises yet again: “If you have health insurance, and you like it, and you have a doctor that you like, then you can keep it. Period.” How can Obama keep making this promise if he is not familiar with the health legislation that is being written in Congress? Details matter.



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Reply #6211 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 5:22pm
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OP-ED COLUMNIST

Liberal Suicide March

By DAVID BROOKS
Published: July 20, 2009
NYT

It was interesting to watch the Republican Party lose touch with America. You had a party led by conservative Southerners who neither understood nor sympathized with moderates or representatives from swing districts.

They brought in pollsters to their party conferences to persuade their members that the country was fervently behind them. They were supported by their interest groups and cheered on by their activists and the partisan press. They spent federal money in an effort to buy support but ended up disgusting the country instead.

It’s not that interesting to watch the Democrats lose touch with America. That’s because the plotline is exactly the same. The party is led by insular liberals from big cities and the coasts, who neither understand nor sympathize with moderates. They have their own cherry-picking pollsters, their own media and activist cocoon, their own plans to lavishly spend borrowed money to buy votes.

This ideological overreach won’t be any more successful than the last one. A Washington Post-ABC News poll released Monday confirms what other polls have found. Most Americans love Barack Obama personally, but support for Democratic policies is already sliding fast.

Approval of Obama’s handling of health care, for example, has slid from 57 percent to 49 percent since April. Disapproval has risen from 29 percent to 44 percent. As recently as June, voters earning more than $50,000 preferred Obama to the Republicans on health care by a 21-point margin. Now those voters are evenly split.

Most independents now disapprove of Obama’s health care strategy. In March, only 32 percent of Americans thought Obama was an old-style, tax-and-spend liberal. Now 43 percent do.

We’re only in the early stages of the liberal suicide march, but there already have been three phases. First, there was the stimulus package. You would have thought that a stimulus package would be designed to fight unemployment and stimulate the economy during a recession. But Congressional Democrats used it as a pretext to pay for $787 billion worth of pet programs with borrowed money. Only 11 percent of the money will be spent by the end of the fiscal year — a triumph of ideology over pragmatism.

Then there is the budget. Instead of allaying moderate anxieties about the deficits, the budget is expected to increase the government debt by $11 trillion between 2009 and 2019.

Finally, there is health care. Every cliché Ann Coulter throws at the Democrats is gloriously fulfilled by the Democratic health care bills. The bills do almost nothing to control health care inflation. They are modeled on the Massachusetts health reform law that is currently coming apart at the seams precisely because it doesn’t control costs. They do little to reward efficient providers and reform inefficient ones.

The House bill adds $239 billion to the federal deficit during the first 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. It would pummel small businesses with an 8 percent payroll penalty. It would jack America’s top tax rate above those in Italy and France. Top earners in New York and California would be giving more than 55 percent of earnings to one government entity or another.

Nancy Pelosi has lower approval ratings than Dick Cheney and far lower approval ratings than Sarah Palin. And yet Democrats have allowed her policy values to carry the day — this in an era in which independents dominate the electoral landscape.

Who’s going to stop this leftward surge? Months ago, it seemed as if Obama would lead a center-left coalition. Instead, he has deferred to the Old Bulls on Capitol Hill on issue after issue.

Machiavelli said a leader should be feared as well as loved. Obama is loved by the Democratic chairmen, but he is not feared. On health care, Obama has emphasized cost control. The chairmen flouted his priorities because they don’t fear him. On cap and trade, Obama campaigned against giving away pollution offsets. The chairmen wrote their bill to do precisely that because they don’t fear him. On taxes, Obama promised that top tax rates would not go above Clinton-era levels. The chairmen flouted that promise because they don’t fear him.

Last week, the administration announced a proposal to take Medicare spending decisions away from Congress and lodge the power with technocrats in the executive branch. It’s a good idea, and it might lead to real cost savings. But there’s no reason to think that it will be incorporated into the final law. The chairmen will never surrender power to an administration they can override.

That leaves matters in the hands of the Blue Dog Democrats. These brave moderates are trying to restrain the fiscal explosion. But moderates inherently lack seniority (they are from swing districts). They are usually bought off by leadership at the end of the day.

And so here we are again. Every new majority overinterprets its mandate. We’ve been here before. We’ll be here again.
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Pdog wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:08am:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 8:43am:
Keep throwing shit against the wall, something might stick. The more shit the better.

Seems like a good idea, when there isn't a specific thing to work through.
We would all rather read why Obama sucks, than an idea that might be a better solution.

Oh, and while you're at it, probably should try to define all libruls in your terms.



if you read those articles, most could've just been Bush instead of Abama, so much idetical... it's funny how deep the refusal and delusion can go, when someone is blinded by dead party ideals, that the party itself abandoned, except in name only...




Pdog how, and why do you continue to try and throw Bush into the mix here?! Let's be 110% clear here. Barack Obama has spent more than four times what Bush did in his two four year terms as president! In six months Barry has outspent every leader of ANY NATION IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF CIVILIZATION!!! Do you get it?!?! It's one thing to try and make the "two wrongs make a right" argument, but that doesn't even play here! Barry has far outspent what Bush spent! It's not even close! Obama is bankrupting future generations of Americans. Bush has absolutely nothing what-so-ever to do with it!! Get over Bush ffs! It's Obama who is intentionally destroying the free market system that has made America the most successful nation in the history of mankind.




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can't answer how, but why.. .easily... b/c there's no dif. just a continuation.

your def. of success is based solely on money... that to me in itself is the standard by which we find ourselves lost in a mess that centers around world banks and our fed. reserve.
how about defining success by if the people are happy and healthy and educated... that to me is a better guage for success... we live in a country of depressed, overweight stupid people... I don't care what the dow jones says...
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Riffhard wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:33am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:08am:
fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 8:43am:
Keep throwing shit against the wall, something might stick. The more shit the better.

Seems like a good idea, when there isn't a specific thing to work through.
We would all rather read why Obama sucks, than an idea that might be a better solution.

Oh, and while you're at it, probably should try to define all libruls in your terms.



if you read those articles, most could've just been Bush instead of Abama, so much idetical... it's funny how deep the refusal and delusion can go, when someone is blinded by dead party ideals, that the party itself abandoned, except in name only...




Pdog how, and why do you continue to try and throw Bush into the mix here?! Let's be 110% clear here. Barack Obama has spent more than four times what Bush did in his two four year terms as president! In six months Barry has outspent every leader of ANY NATION IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF CIVILIZATION!!! Do you get it?!?! It's one thing to try and make the "two wrongs make a right" argument, but that doesn't even play here! Barry has far outspent what Bush spent! It's not even close! Obama is bankrupting future generations of Americans. Bush has absolutely nothing what-so-ever to do with it!! Get over Bush ffs! It's Obama who is intentionally destroying the free market system that has made America the most successful nation in the history of mankind.




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can't answer how, but why.. .easily... b/c there's no dif. just a continuation.

your def. of success is based solely on money... that to me in itself is the standard by which we find ourselves lost in a mess that centers around world banks and our fed. reserve.
how about defining success by if the people are happy and healthy and educated... that to me is a better guage for success... we live in a country of depressed, overweight stupid people... I don't care what the dow jones says...



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Yeah, if you believe in socialism.

There is no Constitutional right to everyone in this country having the same health or education.

If people want to be unhealthy, that is their choice -- they may find that health insurance is more costly, but so what if the insurance company chose to insure and the person chooses to pay?

If people in this county want to be uneducated, why should the federal government interfere?
How is that a matter of national concern?
Let them find good work in either the food service or domestic cleaning industries.



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If anyone thinks that Obama is the same as Bush you're being delusional! There is no way in hell that any Republican would be spending the way that Barry is spending. The agenda that Barry has foisted upon this country is designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Socialism. Bush spent like a drunken sailor to be sure, but Barry is spending like a drunken sailor with daddy's money. And by daddy's money I, of course, I mean our money.

Obama wants to "change" the entire economic system that has made the USA the most prosperous nation on earth. He's a Marxist. That ain't hyperbole either. That's fact.


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Anyone that thinks that Obama is not a Marxist then I'd highly reccomend that you read this link. Sam Webb is the National Chair for The Communist Party USA. Why not take the time to see what he thinks of Obama. Here's a hint. He loves him! And why wouldn't he afterall? They are of one mind when it comes to Marxism.

Here--->http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/obama_and_the_cpusa.html



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nankerphelge wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:03pm:
Yeah, if you believe in socialism.

There is no Constitutional right to everyone in this country having the same health or education.

If people want to be unhealthy, that is their choice -- they may find that health insurance is more costly, but so what if the insurance company chose to insure and the person chooses to pay?

If people in this county want to be uneducated, why should the federal government interfere?
How is that a matter of national concern?
Let them find good work in either the food service or domestic cleaning industries.






Consider it like Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security. Not in the Constitution either. Neither is a standing army draining untold billions.

I have no problem with my tax dollars helping out the old/poor/disabled. Much better than giving it to big oil companies.
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fuman wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 7:33pm:
nankerphelge wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:03pm:
Yeah, if you believe in socialism.

There is no Constitutional right to everyone in this country having the same health or education.

If people want to be unhealthy, that is their choice -- they may find that health insurance is more costly, but so what if the insurance company chose to insure and the person chooses to pay?

If people in this county want to be uneducated, why should the federal government interfere?
How is that a matter of national concern?
Let them find good work in either the food service or domestic cleaning industries.






Consider it like Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security. Not in the Constitution either. Neither is a standing army draining untold billions.

I have no problem with my tax dollars helping out the old/poor/disabled. Much better than giving it to big oil companies.


There's nothing in the constituion???

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I think it's pretty clear, but then again, The Republican party has no problem discrminating against gays or telling women what to do with their bodies and that is a fact...
btw, promoting genral welfare, does mean health and education...

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1: the state of doing well especially in respect to good fortune, happiness, well-being, or prosperity <must look out for your own welfare>
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oh shit, I just remembered since Bush was president, the constittuion didn't matter anymore... i'm just surpised the bush-geeks are surprised and pissed off... I guess you forget simple things like, if the tide is the highest level at a certain high tide, it will also be at it's lowest... so one extreme begets another...duh!!! If the Bush-heads didn't want this, they should've thought it through a few years ago with the blind allegiance to the former prez, you opened this door, now you want it closed... good luck with that... we are expieriencing the economic version of 9/11... and you got a dem in office... so, we get the same dance as Bush, just done to a different song. When you gave Bush absolute power, you absolutely gave up your power, now you're complaining. Part of me wants to say, you deserved this, but it's been happennig to me too, I just felt this way then too... so consider yourself lucky, you just started feeling fucked...
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