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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #6075 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 10:43am
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Starbuck wrote on Jul 17th, 2009 at 11:18pm:
for riffy...sean....and all the other history buffs!

fascinating cartoons!

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http://www.zshare.net/video/52768854cf1504f4/


Those vids are crazy.  Who would have thunk that Hitler was into the badunkadunk?
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NEW YORK -- Could it be that President Barack Obama's Midas touch is starting to dull a bit, even among members of his own party?

Conservative House Democrats are balking at the cost and direction of Obama's top priority, an overhaul of the nation's health care system. A key Senate Democrat, Max Baucus of Montana, complains that Obama's opposition to paying for it with a tax on health benefits "is not helping us."

Another Democrat, Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma, tells his local newspaper that Obama is too liberal and is "very unpopular" in his district.



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Reply #6077 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 11:28am
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Uh oh. As Oklahoma goes, so goes the nation . . . .
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One can only hope.
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The White House is considering overhauling interrogation techniques of suspected terrorists by creating a small team of professionals drawn from across the government, people familiar with the proposal told The Wall Street Journal.

The new unit, made of members of spy services and law-enforcement agencies, would be used for so-called high-value detainees, The Wall Street Journal reports. Who would be overseeing these new efforts remains unclear, but it would not be the Central Intelligence Agency, marking a clear shift from Bush-era policies

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Reply #6079 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 11:38am
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nankerphelge wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 11:25am:
NEW YORK -- Could it be that President Barack Obama's Midas touch is starting to dull a bit, even among members of his own party?

Conservative House Democrats are balking at the cost and direction of Obama's top priority, an overhaul of the nation's health care system. A key Senate Democrat, Max Baucus of Montana, complains that Obama's opposition to paying for it with a tax on health benefits "is not helping us."

Another Democrat, Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma, tells his local newspaper that Obama is too liberal and is "very unpopular" in his district.






The worm is turning. Of that there can be no doubt. All rational sane people can see that Barry is exactly what all rational sane people always knew he was. Namely a hard socialist cum Marxist with an outright hatred of the history of the United States. The drones think that that is some kind of tin foil hat conspiracy thinking, but, of course, the drones never took into account all the socialist and Marxist friends that Barry has surrounded himself with since before his Harvard days. The associates and friends of Barry never had any influence on him! Yeah, right! Drone on morons! Your boy is a Marxist bastard! And by boy I am not implying any kind of racial slur. I know how much you libs love throw the race card out there.


Barack Obama is a failed president. He is already the worst president in the history of the USA. Deal with it Obamadrones!


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Reply #6080 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 11:47am
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Pdog wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 8:00am:
i thought it would take a little longer, before the neo-cons had complete meltdowns and just resorted to name calling with no real poltical argument, it seems the JC poster sped up that process. So now we get to enjoy the vile commetns again we were having for the three months before the election.
When push comes to shove, I'm always at least 51% rock and roll, so even if I come to thread, with highest passion, I never let poltics dominate. With all the comments just aimed at people in personal attacks, no humor just hate, you suck all the rock and roll out of yourself. You don't even post rock and roll, and if you do it is forced and contrived...


The skunk (mephitis mephitis), is a result of the notes I placed in God's suggestion box.  He He.  And the dung beetle?  That was mine too.

You sell yourself short.  By my calculations, you're actually 57% rock n' roll.  But you're also 23% dork, 11% raving lunatic and 5% piss and vinegar.  The remaining 4% is unquantified at this point.  But if I were forced to provide a hypothesis, I'd guess that remaining 4% is made up of Pop Rocks and Back Street Boys albums.  We all have our guilty pleasures.  

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i thought it would take a little longer, before the neo-cons had complete meltdowns and just resorted to name calling with no real poltical argument, it seems the JC poster sped up that process. So now we get to enjoy the vile commetns again we were having for the three months before the election.
When push comes to shove, I'm always at least 51% rock and roll, so even if I come to thread, with highest passion, I never let poltics dominate. With all the comments just aimed at people in personal attacks, no humor just hate, you suck all the rock and roll out of yourself. You don't even post rock and roll, and if you do it is forced and contrived...


The skunk (mephitis mephitis), is a result of the notes I placed in God's suggestion box.  He He.  And the dung beetle?  That was mine too.

You sell yourself short.  By my calculations, you're actually 57% rock n' roll.  But you're also 23% dork, 11% raving lunatic and 5% piss and vinegar.  The remaining 4% is unquantified at this point.  But if I were forced to provide a hypothesis, I'd guess that remaining 4% is made up of Pop Rocks and Back Street Boys albums.  We all have our guilty pleasures.  

Have you seen my baseball?

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Haha... not a bad assesment, since I don't think I know you personally.... I think i'm more raving lunatic, probably a steady 51% punk n' roll and my guilty pleasures are along the lines of unknown bands, however poppy or silly. adjust piss and vingar to suit your tastes... if you like thar sort of thing.
But... you should quantify the hate posting around here towards the people I was commenting on, and not so much me, you kinda missed that point in your response, but I'm used to it.
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Reply #6082 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 3:29pm
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Pdog wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 8:00am:
i thought it would take a little longer, before the neo-cons had complete meltdowns and just resorted to name calling with no real poltical argument, it seems the JC poster sped up that process. So now we get to enjoy the vile commetns again we were having for the three months before the election.
When push comes to shove, I'm always at least 51% rock and roll, so even if I come to thread, with highest passion, I never let poltics dominate. With all the comments just aimed at people in personal attacks, no humor just hate, you suck all the rock and roll out of yourself. You don't even post rock and roll, and if you do it is forced and contrived...


The skunk (mephitis mephitis), is a result of the notes I placed in God's suggestion box.  He He.  And the dung beetle?  That was mine too.

You sell yourself short.  By my calculations, you're actually 57% rock n' roll.  But you're also 23% dork, 11% raving lunatic and 5% piss and vinegar.  The remaining 4% is unquantified at this point.  But if I were forced to provide a hypothesis, I'd guess that remaining 4% is made up of Pop Rocks and Back Street Boys albums.  We all have our guilty pleasures.  

Have you seen my baseball?

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Haha... not a bad assesment, since I don't think I know you personally.... I think i'm more raving lunatic, probably a steady 51% punk n' roll and my guilty pleasures are along the lines of unknown bands, however poppy or silly. adjust piss and vingar to suit your tastes... if you like thar sort of thing.
But... you should quantify the hate posting around here towards the people I was commenting on, and not so much me, you kinda missed that point in your response, but I'm used to it.


There is hate, and then there is the truth.  Often confused with one another.  You should be careful not to be on the wrong side of either.  Emotion is for the weak, and the uninformed.  It is easily defeated because it has no basis in truth or fact.  Like the cockroach, reason is a survivor.  It cannot be defeated.  Only labeled and ridiculed by those who offer only emotion.  The term "hate" is one of those such labels.  It is nothing but the crutch of those who cannot counter with reason.  The label is offered only to silence reason.  To stifle the truth.

All that said, I really need to find my baseball.  Have you seen it?
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Reply #6083 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 4:22pm
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Prescription for Disaster
by Peter Schiff

The health care bill unveiled this week by the House of Representatives (with the full support of the Obama administration) is one of the worst pieces of legislation ever drafted. If passed, it will reduce the quality and increase the cost of health care in America. But more importantly, it will severely undermine our already weak economy. To burden a country currently in the throes of a violent recession with such a bureaucratic albatross clearly illustrates the scarcity of economic intelligence in Washington.

In the first place, specifically taxing the rich to pay for health care for the uninsured is the wrong way to think about tax policy and is an unconstitutional redistribution of wealth. While the government has the constitutional power to tax to “promote the general welfare,” it does not have the right to tax one group for the sole and specific benefit of another. If the government wishes to finance national health insurance, the burden of paying for it should fall on every American. If that were the case, perhaps Congress would think twice before passing such a monstrosity.

In the second place, the bill is just plain bad economics. For an administration that claims to want to create jobs, this bill is one of the biggest job-killers yet devised. By increasing the marginal income tax rate on high earners (an extra 5.4% on incomes above 1 million), it reduces the incentives for small business owners to expand their companies. When you combine this tax hike with the higher taxes that will kick in once the Bush tax-cuts expire, and add in the higher income taxes being imposed by several states, many business owners might simply choose not to put in the extra effort necessary to expand their businesses. Or, given the diminishing returns on their labor, they may choose to enjoy more leisure. More leisure for employers means fewer jobs for employees.


More directly, mandating insurance coverage for employees increases the cost of hiring workers. Under the terms of the bill, small businesses that do not provide insurance will be required to pay a tax as high as 8% of their payroll. Since most small businesses currently could not afford to grant 8% across-the-board pay hikes, they will have to offset these costs by reducing wages. However, for employees working at the minimum wage, the only way for employers to offset the costs would be through layoffs.

The uninsured self-employed, or those working as independent contractors, will be forced to buy insurance or pay a tax equal to 2.5% of annual income. Either choice will divert resources from more productive uses into an already out-of-control health care bureaucracy.

Sadly, the bill does nothing to restrain or alter the dynamics that have caused health care costs to spiral ever higher. In fact, the bill will intensify these pressures.


The simplest (but by no means fullest) explanation of why health care costs so much is that demand exceeds supply. Demand is a function of how much people are prepared to pay. Insuring more people will drive demand for health care services even higher. (To truly get a handle on out-of-control health care costs, we need more people paying for routine medical care out of pocket, and tort reform for medical malpractice. See my previous commentary.)

As costs continue to soar, expect additional tax hikes to fund the added expense. As these additional taxes further encumber a weak economy, the diminished tax base will yield lower total tax revenues – despite higher rates. As the politicians attempt to pass ever higher increases to make up for revenue shortfalls, a vicious cycle toward insolvency will ensue.

The worst part of the whole fiasco is trying to imagine the bureaucracy necessary to administer this plan. My guess is that the government provider will mis-price its policies on the low side, pushing employers to dump private sector insurance for the taxpayer-subsidized alternative. Such a system will further distort health care pricing and, ultimately, make a bad situation intolerable.

The enormity, complexity, and expense of this bill could well pull the rug out from what many of my cheerleading colleagues believe to be the beginning of an economic recovery. The way I see it, the economy is walking dead anyway, and this measure is the equivalent of a stake through the heart. But even if we manage to escape the grave this time, Congress is working on a few other ideas that will surely keep us buried.

July 18, 2009

Peter Schiff is president of Euro Pacific Capital and author of The Little Book of Bull Moves in Bear Markets and Crash Proof: How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse.

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Pdog wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 8:00am:
i thought it would take a little longer, before the neo-cons had complete meltdowns and just resorted to name calling with no real poltical argument, it seems the JC poster sped up that process. So now we get to enjoy the vile commetns again we were having for the three months before the election.
When push comes to shove, I'm always at least 51% rock and roll, so even if I come to thread, with highest passion, I never let poltics dominate. With all the comments just aimed at people in personal attacks, no humor just hate, you suck all the rock and roll out of yourself. You don't even post rock and roll, and if you do it is forced and contrived...


The skunk (mephitis mephitis), is a result of the notes I placed in God's suggestion box.  He He.  And the dung beetle?  That was mine too.

You sell yourself short.  By my calculations, you're actually 57% rock n' roll.  But you're also 23% dork, 11% raving lunatic and 5% piss and vinegar.  The remaining 4% is unquantified at this point.  But if I were forced to provide a hypothesis, I'd guess that remaining 4% is made up of Pop Rocks and Back Street Boys albums.  We all have our guilty pleasures.  

Have you seen my baseball?

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Haha... not a bad assesment, since I don't think I know you personally.... I think i'm more raving lunatic, probably a steady 51% punk n' roll and my guilty pleasures are along the lines of unknown bands, however poppy or silly. adjust piss and vingar to suit your tastes... if you like thar sort of thing.
But... you should quantify the hate posting around here towards the people I was commenting on, and not so much me, you kinda missed that point in your response, but I'm used to it.


There is hate, and then there is the truth.  Often confused with one another.  You should be careful not to be on the wrong side of either.  Emotion is for the weak, and the uninformed.  It is easily defeated because it has no basis in truth or fact.  Like the cockroach, reason is a survivor.  It cannot be defeated.  Only labeled and ridiculed by those who offer only emotion.  The term "hate" is one of those such labels.  It is nothing but the crutch of those who cannot counter with reason.  The label is offered only to silence reason.  To stifle the truth.

All that said, I really need to find my baseball.  Have you seen it?


nope can't help you there... you'll find it when you find your truth, which if you're real, is not anyone elses truth... and has nothing to do with all the other BS jive talk you're throwing around, but I like it anyway... b/c you at least put thought into it. anyway... I think Bush did better at booty looking... you?
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Prescription for Disaster
by Peter Schiff

The health care bill unveiled this week by the House of Representatives (with the full support of the Obama administration) is one of the worst pieces of legislation ever drafted. If passed, it will reduce the quality and increase the cost of health care in America. But more importantly, it will severely undermine our already weak economy. To burden a country currently in the throes of a violent recession with such a bureaucratic albatross clearly illustrates the scarcity of economic intelligence in Washington.

In the first place, specifically taxing the rich to pay for health care for the uninsured is the wrong way to think about tax policy and is an unconstitutional redistribution of wealth. While the government has the constitutional power to tax to “promote the general welfare,” it does not have the right to tax one group for the sole and specific benefit of another. If the government wishes to finance national health insurance, the burden of paying for it should fall on every American. If that were the case, perhaps Congress would think twice before passing such a monstrosity.

In the second place, the bill is just plain bad economics. For an administration that claims to want to create jobs, this bill is one of the biggest job-killers yet devised. By increasing the marginal income tax rate on high earners (an extra 5.4% on incomes above 1 million), it reduces the incentives for small business owners to expand their companies. When you combine this tax hike with the higher taxes that will kick in once the Bush tax-cuts expire, and add in the higher income taxes being imposed by several states, many business owners might simply choose not to put in the extra effort necessary to expand their businesses. Or, given the diminishing returns on their labor, they may choose to enjoy more leisure. More leisure for employers means fewer jobs for employees.


More directly, mandating insurance coverage for employees increases the cost of hiring workers. Under the terms of the bill, small businesses that do not provide insurance will be required to pay a tax as high as 8% of their payroll. Since most small businesses currently could not afford to grant 8% across-the-board pay hikes, they will have to offset these costs by reducing wages. However, for employees working at the minimum wage, the only way for employers to offset the costs would be through layoffs.

The uninsured self-employed, or those working as independent contractors, will be forced to buy insurance or pay a tax equal to 2.5% of annual income. Either choice will divert resources from more productive uses into an already out-of-control health care bureaucracy.

Sadly, the bill does nothing to restrain or alter the dynamics that have caused health care costs to spiral ever higher. In fact, the bill will intensify these pressures.


The simplest (but by no means fullest) explanation of why health care costs so much is that demand exceeds supply. Demand is a function of how much people are prepared to pay. Insuring more people will drive demand for health care services even higher. (To truly get a handle on out-of-control health care costs, we need more people paying for routine medical care out of pocket, and tort reform for medical malpractice. See my previous commentary.)

As costs continue to soar, expect additional tax hikes to fund the added expense. As these additional taxes further encumber a weak economy, the diminished tax base will yield lower total tax revenues – despite higher rates. As the politicians attempt to pass ever higher increases to make up for revenue shortfalls, a vicious cycle toward insolvency will ensue.

The worst part of the whole fiasco is trying to imagine the bureaucracy necessary to administer this plan. My guess is that the government provider will mis-price its policies on the low side, pushing employers to dump private sector insurance for the taxpayer-subsidized alternative. Such a system will further distort health care pricing and, ultimately, make a bad situation intolerable.

The enormity, complexity, and expense of this bill could well pull the rug out from what many of my cheerleading colleagues believe to be the beginning of an economic recovery. The way I see it, the economy is walking dead anyway, and this measure is the equivalent of a stake through the heart. But even if we manage to escape the grave this time, Congress is working on a few other ideas that will surely keep us buried.

July 18, 2009

Peter Schiff is president of Euro Pacific Capital and author of The Little Book of Bull Moves in Bear Markets and Crash Proof: How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse.

Copyright © 2009 Euro Pacific Capital



My health care plan is much cheaper.  It will only cost you your soul.  Or a baseball.  We really need a baseball down here.

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I do not understand black culture....

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I do not understand black culture....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKW3jjlYj10



He's an idiot, that's all.

Lot's (most) of the radio personalities say crazy things to keep listeners tuned in (especially the fat POS on eib).

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Pdog wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 8:04pm:
I do not understand black culture....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKW3jjlYj10



He's an idiot, that's all.

Lot's (most) of the radio personalities say crazy things to keep listeners tuned in (especially the fat POS on eib).



is he like Rush, all fucking high buying dope from his cleaning lady and just saying crazy shit for the sake of saying crazy shit...? Man, I totally get black people now!!!
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A controversial suit brought by a U.S. Army reservist has been joined by a retired Army two-star general and an active reserve Air Force lieutenant colonel.

Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8 in federal court here asking for conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his belief that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States and commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

However, before the issue got to court, Cook’s orders to deploy to Afghanistan were revoked. Lt. Col. Maria Quon, a public affairs officer with the U.S. Army Human Resources Command-St. Louis, said Tuesday that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty. Cook, who claims he is now the victim of retaliation due to his suit, received his mobilization orders to report for active duty at MacDill on Wednesday. From there, he was to go to Fort Benning on Saturday for deployment to Afghanistan.

Last week, Cook filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector represented by California attorney Orly Taitz.

The government, in its response to the suit, claims that Cook’s suit is “moot” in that he already has been told he doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has been granted.

In a pleading revised after the revocation of Cook’s orders, Taitz argues that the application for preliminary injunction is not moot and that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit “because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.”

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Interesting.
So he files a suit challenging Obama's legitamacy as a non-US born President.
The Army revokes his deployment in response and. as predicted, now argues that the issue is moot and there is no more case.
So he gets two others to join his suit to keep it alive.
What will the Army do next?

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Reply #6091 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:20am
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fuman wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 9:30pm:
Pdog wrote on Jul 18th, 2009 at 8:04pm:
I do not understand black culture....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKW3jjlYj10



He's an idiot, that's all.

Lot's (most) of the radio personalities say crazy things to keep listeners tuned in (especially the fat POS on eib).



is he like Rush, all fucking high buying dope from his cleaning lady and just saying crazy shit for the sake of saying crazy shit...? Man, I totally get black people now!!!



I meant that HE is an idiot, that's all.

Imagine watching a white supremest speech and then asking "what's up with white culture, I don't get it".
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Reply #6092 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:24am
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A controversial suit brought by a U.S. Army reservist has been joined by a retired Army two-star general and an active reserve Air Force lieutenant colonel.

Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8 in federal court here asking for conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his belief that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States and commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

However, before the issue got to court, Cook’s orders to deploy to Afghanistan were revoked. Lt. Col. Maria Quon, a public affairs officer with the U.S. Army Human Resources Command-St. Louis, said Tuesday that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty. Cook, who claims he is now the victim of retaliation due to his suit, received his mobilization orders to report for active duty at MacDill on Wednesday. From there, he was to go to Fort Benning on Saturday for deployment to Afghanistan.

Last week, Cook filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector represented by California attorney Orly Taitz.

The government, in its response to the suit, claims that Cook’s suit is “moot” in that he already has been told he doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has been granted.

In a pleading revised after the revocation of Cook’s orders, Taitz argues that the application for preliminary injunction is not moot and that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit “because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.”

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Interesting.
So he files a suit challenging Obama's legitamacy as a non-US born President.
The Army revokes his deployment in response and. as predicted, now argues that the issue is moot and there is no more case.
So he gets two others to join his suit to keep it alive.
What will the Army do next?




If they stop performing their duties, then they should be court marshalled.
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Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


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Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:46am:
Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


Riffy



Really? These guys have figured this out on their own? Who are they hurting? Do you think their units support this tantrum?

They are out of line. This issue has been put to rest.
His birth cert has been provided, verified, and now only absolute morons are questioning the validity.

A much clearer issue would have been to dispute W's election victory. He was APPOINTED by K. Harris, with an assist from the supreme court conservatives.

Indisputable. However, many don't mind that the election process was short circuited because W seemed likeable enough.


You can wish for momentum all you want, doesn't make it reality. I have seen the comments of Obama's detractors, and they ALL sound like wackos to me. Not one good point has been made (I welcome your counter argument to this).

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Reply #6095 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:26am
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fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:05am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:46am:
Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


Riffy



Really? These guys have figured this out on their own? Who are they hurting? Do you think their units support this tantrum?

They are out of line. This issue has been put to rest.
His birth cert has been provided, verified, and now only absolute morons are questioning the validity.

A much clearer issue would have been to dispute W's election victory. He was APPOINTED by K. Harris, with an assist from the supreme court conservatives.

Indisputable. However, many don't mind that the election process was short circuited because W seemed likeable enough.


You can wish for momentum all you want, doesn't make it reality. I have seen the comments of Obama's detractors, and they ALL sound like wackos to me. Not one good point has been made (I welcome your counter argument to this).




Goddamned son you're thick! His birth certificate HAS NOT been provided!!!! A short form certificate has been provided, and the hospital in Hawaii that issued it will neither confirm nor deny the allegations! Barrty has refused to allow the release of the "legal" long form bc! Why? Again, he's the only president in history that has not release his long form birth certificate!!! You woldn't know that though because you refuse to read anything that might burst your little liberal bubble of belief in this clown! His own father is on record as saying that Barry was born in Kenya! He stated that on more than four occassions! Who the hell are you calling moron, moron?

The guy is easily the worst president ever! Oh, and another thing, if you think that Kathrine Harris handed the presidency to Bush then you have just proven that you know absolutely nothing about the facts of that election!! Even the NYT has admitted that Bush was the legitimate winner of the 2000 election! Why don't you actually take the time to fucking read a little! Bush did NOT steal the election! However, there can zero doubt that Gore sure as hell tried to steal it!



You're a waste of time! You won't look at anything other than the facts that you cherry pick! I read it all big boy! You read only what you think will support your idiotic arguments. Typical of liberals actually. You are no different from all the other drones. The good news for the USA is that more drones are beginning to figure out that they were duped. You? You'll never get it because you don't want to see the truth. Have fun in your little liberal world of make believe.



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Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:26am:
fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:05am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:46am:
Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


Riffy



Really? These guys have figured this out on their own? Who are they hurting? Do you think their units support this tantrum?

They are out of line. This issue has been put to rest.
His birth cert has been provided, verified, and now only absolute morons are questioning the validity.

A much clearer issue would have been to dispute W's election victory. He was APPOINTED by K. Harris, with an assist from the supreme court conservatives.

Indisputable. However, many don't mind that the election process was short circuited because W seemed likeable enough.


You can wish for momentum all you want, doesn't make it reality. I have seen the comments of Obama's detractors, and they ALL sound like wackos to me. Not one good point has been made (I welcome your counter argument to this).




Goddamned son you're thick! His birth certificate HAS NOT been provided!!!! A short form certificate has been provided, and the hospital in Hawaii that issued it will neither confirm nor deny the allegations! Barrty has refused to allow the release of the "legal" long form bc! Why? Again, he's the only president in history that has not release his long form birth certificate!!! You woldn't know that though because you refuse to read anything that might burst your little liberal bubble of belief in this clown! His own father is on record as saying that Barry was born in Kenya! He stated that on more than four occassions! Who the hell are you calling moron, moron?

The guy is easily the worst president ever! Oh, and another thing, if you think that Kathrine Harris handed the presidency to Bush then you have just proven that you know absolutely nothing about the facts of that election!! Even the NYT has admitted that Bush was the legitimate winner of the 2000 election! Why don't you actually take the time to fucking read a little! Bush did NOT steal the election! However, there can zero doubt that Gore sure as hell tried to steal it!



You're a waste of time! You won't look at anything other than the facts that you cherry pick! I read it all big boy! You read only what you think will support your idiotic arguments. Typical of liberals actually. You are no different from all the other drones. The good news for the USA is that more drones are beginning to figure out that they were duped. You? You'll never get it because you don't want to see the truth. Have fun in your little liberal world of make believe.



Riffy



The supreme court ruled that Florida must stop the recount. Then Harris declared W the winner (he did have a few hundred more votes at that time, although that number was repidly decreasing until they stopped counting).


As to the birth cert, you think this is a conspiracy? Or that the Obama group has pulled the wool over the collective election official's eyes?


You really shouldn't be so sensitive to being called a moron. Especially considering your communication skills.

It is truly funny, how you define me. As if you are stating facts about me. Remember? I haven't read Obama's books for instance.
It's like me stating that you only get info from Beck and Rush, and then saying "so, there you have the facts. You're a drone".
Sounds pretty stupid, no?

I understand though, I had to endure 8 years of Cheney telling W what to do and how & when to do it. It's not easy, I know.
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Reply #6097 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:57am
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fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:47am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:26am:
fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:05am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:46am:
Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


Riffy



Really? These guys have figured this out on their own? Who are they hurting? Do you think their units support this tantrum?

They are out of line. This issue has been put to rest.
His birth cert has been provided, verified, and now only absolute morons are questioning the validity.

A much clearer issue would have been to dispute W's election victory. He was APPOINTED by K. Harris, with an assist from the supreme court conservatives.

Indisputable. However, many don't mind that the election process was short circuited because W seemed likeable enough.


You can wish for momentum all you want, doesn't make it reality. I have seen the comments of Obama's detractors, and they ALL sound like wackos to me. Not one good point has been made (I welcome your counter argument to this).




Goddamned son you're thick! His birth certificate HAS NOT been provided!!!! A short form certificate has been provided, and the hospital in Hawaii that issued it will neither confirm nor deny the allegations! Barrty has refused to allow the release of the "legal" long form bc! Why? Again, he's the only president in history that has not release his long form birth certificate!!! You woldn't know that though because you refuse to read anything that might burst your little liberal bubble of belief in this clown! His own father is on record as saying that Barry was born in Kenya! He stated that on more than four occassions! Who the hell are you calling moron, moron?

The guy is easily the worst president ever! Oh, and another thing, if you think that Kathrine Harris handed the presidency to Bush then you have just proven that you know absolutely nothing about the facts of that election!! Even the NYT has admitted that Bush was the legitimate winner of the 2000 election! Why don't you actually take the time to fucking read a little! Bush did NOT steal the election! However, there can zero doubt that Gore sure as hell tried to steal it!



You're a waste of time! You won't look at anything other than the facts that you cherry pick! I read it all big boy! You read only what you think will support your idiotic arguments. Typical of liberals actually. You are no different from all the other drones. The good news for the USA is that more drones are beginning to figure out that they were duped. You? You'll never get it because you don't want to see the truth. Have fun in your little liberal world of make believe.



Riffy



The supreme court ruled that Florida must stop the recount. Then Harris declared W the winner (he did have a few hundred more votes at that time, although that number was repidly decreasing until they stopped counting).


As to the birth cert, you think this is a conspiracy? Or that the Obama group has pulled the wool over the collective election official's eyes?


You really shouldn't be so sensitive to being called a moron. Especially considering your communication skills.

It is truly funny, how you define me. As if you are stating facts about me. Remember? I haven't read Obama's books for instance.
It's like me stating that you only get info from Beck and Rush, and then saying "so, there you have the facts. You're a drone".
Sounds pretty stupid, no?

I understand though, I had to endure 8 years of Cheney telling W what to do and how & when to do it. It's not easy, I know.




My communication skills are just fine thank you very much. In fact it's what I do for a living! I just find it absurd trying to communicate with a drone who refuses to acknowledge fact.


For example your take on the SC ruling concerning the Florida recount is ridiculous and wrong! Flat wrong in fact. The US SC stopped the recount why exactly? Because the Gore camp was trying to only recount counties in Fla. that were weighted heavily Democrat. The Bush team insisted that all counties be recounted. The Gore campaign tried to quash that from happening! Not only that but Gore was trying to disallow thousands of overseas military votes from being counted as well. That's right big boy. Gore was trying to disenfranchise military votes! You're just flat wrong on this issue, and you'd be wise to drop it.


You're a drone, and anyone with half a brain can see that clearly.



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Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:57am:
fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:47am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:26am:
fuman wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 11:05am:
Riffhard wrote on Jul 19th, 2009 at 10:46am:
Funman I know this is hard for you to grasp, but the fact is that the reason that are refusing orders is because they think that Barry is an illegitmate president. Thus far Barry is the only president in US history who has refused to release his birth certificate. Why won't he release it? His father claimed for years that his son (Barry) was born in Kenya. If this is true than he is direct violation of US Constitutional law, and is not, in fact, leagally eligible to be president. The tin-foil hat theory is gaining quite a bit of momentum.


He's the worst president ever! Period!


Riffy



Really? These guys have figured this out on their own? Who are they hurting? Do you think their units support this tantrum?

They are out of line. This issue has been put to rest.
His birth cert has been provided, verified, and now only absolute morons are questioning the validity.

A much clearer issue would have been to dispute W's election victory. He was APPOINTED by K. Harris, with an assist from the supreme court conservatives.

Indisputable. However, many don't mind that the election process was short circuited because W seemed likeable enough.


You can wish for momentum all you want, doesn't make it reality. I have seen the comments of Obama's detractors, and they ALL sound like wackos to me. Not one good point has been made (I welcome your counter argument to this).




Goddamned son you're thick! His birth certificate HAS NOT been provided!!!! A short form certificate has been provided, and the hospital in Hawaii that issued it will neither confirm nor deny the allegations! Barrty has refused to allow the release of the "legal" long form bc! Why? Again, he's the only president in history that has not release his long form birth certificate!!! You woldn't know that though because you refuse to read anything that might burst your little liberal bubble of belief in this clown! His own father is on record as saying that Barry was born in Kenya! He stated that on more than four occassions! Who the hell are you calling moron, moron?

The guy is easily the worst president ever! Oh, and another thing, if you think that Kathrine Harris handed the presidency to Bush then you have just proven that you know absolutely nothing about the facts of that election!! Even the NYT has admitted that Bush was the legitimate winner of the 2000 election! Why don't you actually take the time to fucking read a little! Bush did NOT steal the election! However, there can zero doubt that Gore sure as hell tried to steal it!



You're a waste of time! You won't look at anything other than the facts that you cherry pick! I read it all big boy! You read only what you think will support your idiotic arguments. Typical of liberals actually. You are no different from all the other drones. The good news for the USA is that more drones are beginning to figure out that they were duped. You? You'll never get it because you don't want to see the truth. Have fun in your little liberal world of make believe.



Riffy



The supreme court ruled that Florida must stop the recount. Then Harris declared W the winner (he did have a few hundred more votes at that time, although that number was repidly decreasing until they stopped counting).


As to the birth cert, you think this is a conspiracy? Or that the Obama group has pulled the wool over the collective election official's eyes?


You really shouldn't be so sensitive to being called a moron. Especially considering your communication skills.

It is truly funny, how you define me. As if you are stating facts about me. Remember? I haven't read Obama's books for instance.
It's like me stating that you only get info from Beck and Rush, and then saying "so, there you have the facts. You're a drone".
Sounds pretty stupid, no?

I understand though, I had to endure 8 years of Cheney telling W what to do and how & when to do it. It's not easy, I know.




My communication skills are just fine thank you very much. In fact it's what I do for a living! I just find it absurd trying to communicate with a drone who refuses to acknowledge fact.


For example your take on the SC ruling concerning the Florida recount is ridiculous and wrong! Flat wrong in fact. The US SC stopped the recount why exactly? Because the Gore camp was trying to only recount counties in Fla. that were weighted heavily Democrat. The Bush team insisted that all counties be recounted. The Gore campaign tried to quash that from happening! Not only that but Gore was trying to disallow thousands of overseas military votes from being counted as well. That's right big boy. Gore was trying to disenfranchise military votes! You're just flat wrong on this issue, and you'd be wise to drop it.


You're a drone, and anyone with half a brain can see that clearly.



Riffy




I doubt anybody here would dispute that you have half a brain . . .
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