I'm listening to the dipshit's news conference from earlier today. He just made an "I'm the decider" remark. LOL The more things change, the more things stay the same. This guy is stupider than Bush ever could have been.,

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Surely you can't be serious?

wow, that gov. sanford is a trip, on a trip, tripping the fuck out... he got some explaining to do about his lil trip to s. america... man my wife would be pissed if i took a walk and went to aregentina... i smell good lies being cooked up....

"The notion that all these insurance companies 
who say they’re giving consumers the best possible deal,
if they can’t compete against a public plan as one option, 
with consumers making the decision what’s the best deal, 
that defies logic, 
which is why I think you’ve seen in the polling data overwhelming support for a public plan.

Any support for his "public plan" is probably due to the fact that no one understands the details - including Obama who cannot even explain the part about how he will save billions on drugs. 

250 million in this country have some form of health insurance.
Obama wants to expand that to 300 million.

But first he needs to explain how this new "public plan" will work more effectively when Medicare and Medicaid are the two biggest drivers of the deficit.  And, he needs to explain how this public plan will not simply be a government subsidized plan (meaning the taxpayers are footing some of the cost so that the actual amount you pay is not indicative of the actual cost of the service).  As more people choose to go to the public plan, the private insurers will have less and less people in their pool of insured, and they will have to raise their rates or go out of business.  Once the "public plan" has enough people in it, the private insurance system will cease to exist, and then the public plan can monopolize the system.  Nationalized health care by doing essentially what drug dealers do -- give away their product until the competition is gone.

Stay Tuned for More of 'The Obama Show'

By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, June 24, 2009

In his first daytime news conference yesterday, President Obama preempted "All My Children," "Days of Our Lives" and "The Young and the Restless." But the soap viewers shouldn't have been disappointed: The president had arranged some prepackaged entertainment for them.

After the obligatory first question from the Associated Press, Obama treated the overflowing White House briefing room to a surprise. "I know Nico Pitney is here from the Huffington Post," he announced.

Obama knew this because White House aides had called Pitney the day before to invite him, and they had escorted him into the room. They told him the president was likely to call on him, with the understanding that he would ask a question about Iran that had been submitted online by an Iranian. "I know that there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet," Obama went on. "Do you have a question?"

Pitney recognized his prompt. "That's right," he said, standing in the aisle and wearing a temporary White House press pass. "I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian."

Pitney asked his arranged question. Reporters looked at one another in amazement at the stagecraft they were witnessing. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel grinned at the surprised TV correspondents in the first row.

The use of planted questioners is a no-no at presidential news conferences, because it sends a message to the world -- Iran included -- that the American press isn't as free as advertised. But yesterday wasn't so much a news conference as it was a taping of a new daytime drama, "The Obama Show." Missed yesterday's show? Don't worry: On Wednesday, ABC News will be broadcasting "Good Morning America" from the South Lawn (guest stars: the president and first lady), "World News Tonight" from the Blue Room, and a prime-time feature with Obama from the East Room.
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Obama is playing the country and the media like a fiddle.
Is state-run media really far behind?
The newspapers and broadcast TV stations are all but dead because they have absolutely zero credibility anymore and ABC's Obama-mercial may well be the death knell for them.
Watch Obama "bail" out the MSM and essentially nationalize it.

nankerphelge wrote on Jun 24^th, 2009 at 8:20am:


What's a joke, Nanky?  The UN?  North Korea? 

I find the specter of nuclear war -- even if remote -- to be most alarming and an issue to be considered beyond partisanship and UN-bashing.   Frankly, I oppose it.  Very much indeed! 

The UN and its resolutions are nothing more than a multilateral wrist slap and have absolutely no mechanism of enforcement.  

Those that believe that North Korea will play nice based on UN resolutions are deluded.

You want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that the North Korea issue will go away?
How did it work out for Iran?
or Iraq?

Fact is, the UN is powerless.

I am not advocating nuclear war.
I am just pointing out that the UN will not deter it.
The threat of annihilation by the US might.

What Obama should do is come right out and say that unless NoKo heads back to the bargaining table, the US will consider any future missile launches or nuke tests to be an act of agression and that we will launch airstrikes to take out their capabilities.  If North Korea wants to play hardball, they do so at their own peril!

Cmon now, we just had 8 years of your alternative policies, with no success. The UN seems useless, but going it alone is futile.

Don't you think that we have taught other countries that they better acquire nukes, or we will always have the option of invading?


NK is screaming for attention. Their dictator is a menace, true. He doesn't care about his citizens, so sanctions won't work.
I still don't believe they would launch an attack on us, not so sure about SK though.


Meanwhile, people are still flocking to the beaches in Hawaii, oblivious to the rhetoric. Good for them.

Bush would of said bring it on to N Korea, I feel much better with Obama in office- that Bush hangover is a mutha!

I would just say that this is more complicated than this list can solve, but interesting to read the opinions.

Maybe the answer lies with the maniac's generals? Maybe China holds the key?

The maniac surely knows he can't "wipe out the U.S. once and for all". It's just rubbish.
His generals must be scared shitless. Same for South Korea, where we still have 30K soldiers.

For the US to match ramped up rhetoric seems pointless to me.
For the US to gather support from other countries in dealing with the maniac seems very helpful to me.

"Cmon now, we just had 8 years of your alternative policies, with no success."

No success?

Bush went to the UN, got sanctions against Iraq and no one dared enforce them.

So we did go at it without full UN support and look -- Iraq is far better off today than it was under Saddam.

Once Iraq was invaded, NoKo was pretty quick to get to the bargaining table - wonder why!

Once Iraq was invaded, Libya walked away from its nuke program and gave us all their intel on the Kahn network in Pakistan which has since been shut down.

It is not a question of alternative policies.
It is a question of other nations understanding that you mean business when you say you intend to enforce sanctions.

Zack wrote on Jun 24^th, 2009 at 10:36am:


there's people who hope we die in a nuclear attack, so the last word they have, will be the were right... at least that's the impression i get.