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Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 1:31pm:

the house that moonpiddle built?

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 1:37pm:

i lost his cell number when novogate shut down.

"i am wondering if you righties could spill your thoughts on stem cell research."

That can of worms was opened back a few pages.

Hmmmm........
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WASHINGTON (CNN)  -- Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that he does not believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the planning or execution of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney says Saddam Hussein "provided sanctuary ... and resources to terrorists."

Former Vice President Dick Cheney says Saddam Hussein "provided sanctuary ... and resources to terrorists."

He strongly defended the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq, however, arguing that Hussein's previous support for known terrorists was a serious danger after 9/11.

Cheney, in an appearance at the National Press Club, also said he is intent on speaking out in defense of the Bush administration's national security record because "a clear understanding of policies that worked [in protecting the United States] is essential."

"I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Hussein] was involved in 9/11. We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true," Cheney conceded.

But Hussein was "somebody who provided sanctuary and safe harbor and resources to terrorists. ... [It] is, without question, a fact."

Cheney restated his claim that "there was a relationship between al Qaeda and Iraq that stretched back 10 years. It's not something I made up. ... We know for a fact that Saddam Hussein was a sponsor -- a state sponsor -- of terror. It's not my judgment. That was the judgment of our [intelligence community] and State Department."

Cheney identified former CIA Director George Tenet as the "prime source of information" on the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.
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Tenet "testified, if you go back and check the record, in the fall of [2002] before the Senate Intelligence Committee -- in open session -- that there was a relationship," Cheney said.

Hussein was captured by U.S. forces in Iraq in December 2003. In November 2006, the former Iraqi leader was convicted of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death. He was executed the following December.

Among other things Monday, Cheney also called the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention center a "good facility ... if you are going to be engaged in a world conflict, such as we are, in terms of global war on terrorism. You know, if you don't have a place where you can hold these people, the only other option is to kill them. And we don't operate that way." Video Watch what Cheney has to say about the detention facility »

He reiterated his call for President Obama to declassify documents detailing the results of "enhanced interrogations" of high-value detainees.

Since Obama has already released memos detailing the interrogation methods, Cheney said, it is important to share the results of those interrogations with the public as well.

"I would not ordinarily be leading the charge to declassify classified information, otherwise they wouldn't call me Darth Vader for nothing," Cheney said.

But "once the [Obama] administration released the legal memos that gave the opinions that were used to guide the interrogation program, they'd given away the store. ... I [therefore] thought it was important to have the results that were gained from that interrogation program front and center as well."

On May 14, the CIA rejected the former vice president's request to declassify the documents. CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano, in a written statement, said the two documents are the subject of pending lawsuits and therefore cannot be declassified.

Cheney said Monday that the memos previously released also were the subject of ongoing lawsuits. He said Obama can release the additional documents with "the stroke of a pen."
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On May 21, Cheney gave a full-throated defense of the Bush administration's enhanced interrogations of al Qaeda prisoners during an appearance at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

He has said that the interrogations saved the lives of "thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands." He called the techniques the Bush administration approved "legal, essential, justified, successful and the right thing to do."

Riffhard wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 6:50am:




Wow riffy, wow. Where to begin.... first of all, please stop putting words in my mouth.  Where did I defend Barry and blame all things on Bush?  Please stop mentioning Bush, Nanky said it is against the rules to mention that administration and is considered a hiccup or something. Second of all, you assume alot of things. I know the term "strawman" has been beaten to death here (pun intended?) but you are truly a master at summoning that bastard and beating him like a red headed stepchild. Your rants are barely coherent and it is clear that you have come completely unhinged. At least  when FPMC10 had his meltdown, he posted it and left. You've been having an epic meltdown for 200 pages.Though to be fair it has provided mucho entertainment. To quote the late great Sirmoonie, "This is the greatest thread in the history of the fucking internet".



carry on ol' chap

leonid wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 4:14am:

Only after he emailed my employer. Keep up with things, simpleton. Better to have double standards than no standards at all, which is how Your Simpleton got elected.

"you Republicans don't need no steenkin' minorities in your big tent anyway."

That's right, we Republicans are really just a big KKK rally without the hoods and robes. 
What a true dope you are Jesus.

nankerphelge wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 9:09am:



No you didn't!

Wait..."dope" is a good thing in street jargon, isn't it?  

Why, thank you, Grand Master Nankerflash! You are a
dope too! Word!

No, seriously.  I KNOW that the GOP's hip-hop
transformation is OFF THE HOOK, and that if you
just keep givin' up that slum love, the minorities
who will soon make up the majority of America
will be in the heezy.  



The idea that the GOP is a dying party of old white men
is simply a misperception.  I mean, yins got  Tom
Sowell too, yo.

Michael Steele as RNC Chairman is bizarre alright. Hard to believe he has any support in the party when you watch the commentary. More like a sacrificial lamb until campaign season starts, then replaced at that point.

I think that he was elected because of the 2008 African American Male turnout to vote YES on CA Prop 8. That situation was unknown at the time and it really surprised those in the media that monitor voting trends. A new demographic was born.
That they can somehow pull this voting block into the GOP using gay rights as an issue is the reason for Steele's rise.


When you got nothin', you got nothin' to lose.
You're invincible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel  . . . .

I have no idea what "cures" U or M or anyone else has for cancer, or whether stem cells are the reason for any purported success.  I would be curious to see the results of that work.  

As for Obama's lifting of "the ban" on stem cell research, that is a misnomer.

The "ban" at issue was directed to the creating of new lines of stem cells from embryos.  
Stem cell research has been ongoing for years using existing lines of adult stem cells, and federal funding was available for that work.

Despite this research, there have been no major breakthroughs on cures or treatments for any major disease of which I am aware.

Riffhard wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 6:50am:

Ha.. As if anyone would believe such tortured non-logic. How pathetic to see the lunatic right wing fringe reduced to mouthing propaganda from the former Soviet Union to support their feeble arguments.  :hilarious