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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Fake and Un-Patriotic America is voting... We have to do something to stop this!!!


LOL! I would edit that post to read-Naive and shortsighted America is voting. That, of course is my own veiw.




It doesn't make them bad people though.



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Riffhard wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:34pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:25pm:
"[I]f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated."--Saul Alinsky

I thought that comment was worth repeating.




Your implication with that quote is pretty obvious. I am certainly not trying to say that I have the absolute truth on anything. However, I do know alot more about what makes Barrack tick than many of his supporters do. That much I am absolutly sure of.


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riffy...do you have any idea how pompous and condescending you sound with this whole "i've read everything on obama and i therefore know more than you" schtick? did you ever stop to think that two people who are presented with the same information can come to completely different conclusions about it? also, did you ever stop to think that you don't have to have read every word barry has ever written, or for that matter every printed word that has ever been written about obama, to make an informed decision in this election?
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Starbuck wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:52pm:
Riffhard wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:34pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:25pm:
"f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated."--Saul Alinsky

I thought that comment was worth repeating.




Your implication with that quote is pretty obvious. I am certainly not trying to say that I have the absolute truth on anything. However, I do know alot more about what makes Barrack tick than many of his supporters do. That much I am absolutly sure of.


Riffy


riffy...do you have any idea how pompous and condescending you sound with this whole "i've read everything on obama and i therefore know more than you" schtick? did you ever stop to think that two people who are presented with the same information can come to completely different conclusions about it? also, did you ever stop to think that you don't have to have read every word barry has ever written, or for that matter every printed word that has ever been written about obama, to make an informed decision in this election?



Hmmmm......spread the wealth around! The fact that we are dealing with a media that is totally in the tank for The Marxist One it would be very easy to understand why most people haven't read up very much on the [i]otherside
of the Messiah's reality. Sorry to point it out again, and again, but I dare say that I am right on this subject as many people that I know who supported Barry had zero clues about his radical leanings. I am happy to inform that I have solved that problem.


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While watching the hard hitting journalism of "The Daily Show" last night, I found out that Wasilla, Alaska doesn't have a school system, fire department or any other "social services".  What??  Why is the Daily Show providing more substantive reporting on the actual responsibilities that Sarah Palin once held than any of the Trad Med?

A bit about Wasila and the Mayors job there!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXwQKrL92c4



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This article is both hilarious and informative.  It puts some real numbers to Barack's socialist redistribution plot:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/10/21/taxes/index.html
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If you've read everything about Barack Obama you should know how to spell his first name.
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If anyone wonder why McCain didn't get my vote... it was his veep pick. These aren't my Un-american family values, my values are those big city type, where kids go to school, use condoms and if they get high or drink, I kick their ass and they don't leave the house or use a cell phone or computer!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzpSpWUAue4


If he picked Hutchinson, he not only had my vote, he would've won...

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Oh boy, the spelling police are out again!

Here's a beauty - ain't it the truth!
'Change' Can Lead to Catastrophe

Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:33 PM

By: Thomas Sowell 

Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous is not likely to get him to change his mind. But it may cost you a friend.

It is much the same story with true believers in Barack Obama. They have made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused by the facts, they resent being told the facts.

An e-mail from a reader mentioned trying to tell his sister why he was voting against Obama but, when he tried to argue some facts, she cut him short: "You don't like him and I do!" she said. End of discussion.

When one thinks of all the men who have put their lives on the line in battle to defend and preserve this country, it is especially painful to think that there are people living in the safety and comfort of civilian life who cannot be bothered to find out the facts about candidates before voting to put the fate of this nation, and of generations yet to come, in the hands of someone chosen because they like his words or style.

Of the four people running for president and vice president on the Republican and Democratic tickets, the one we know the least about is the one leading in the polls — Barack Obama.

Some of Sen. Obama's most fervent supporters could not tell you what he has actually done on such issues as crime, education, or financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, much less what he plans to do to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear nation supplying nuclear weapons to the international terrorist networks that it has supplied with other weapons.

The magic word "change" makes specifics unnecessary. If things are going bad, some think that what is needed is blank-check "change." But history shows any number of countries in crises worse than ours, where "change" turned problems into catastrophes.

In czarist Russia, for example, the economy was worse than ours is today and World War I was going far worse for the Russians than anything we have faced in Iraq. Moreover, Russians had nothing like the rights of Americans today. So they went for "change."

That "change" brought on a totalitarian regime that made the czars' despotism look like child's play. The communists killed more people in one year than the czars killed in more than 90 years, not counting the millions who died in a government-created famine in the 1930s.

Other despotic regimes in China, Cuba, and Iran were similarly replaced by people who promised "change" that turned out to be even worse than what went before.

Yet, many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters.

These ranged from Jim Jones who led hundreds to their deaths in Jonestown to Hitler and Mao who led millions to their deaths.

What specifics do we know about Barack Obama's track record that might give us some clue as to what kinds of "changes" to expect if he is elected?

We know that he opposed the practice of putting violent young felons on trial as adults. We know that he was against a law forbidding physicians to kill a baby that was born alive despite an attempt to abort it.

We know that Obama opposed attempts to put stricter regulations on Fannie Mae — and that he was the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. We know that this very year his campaign sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.

Fannie Mae and Raines were at the heart of "the mess in Washington" that Barack Obama claims he is going to clean up under the banner of "change."

The public has been told very little about what this man with the wonderful rhetoric has actually done. What we know is enough to make us wonder about what we don't know. Or it ought to. For the true believers — which includes many in the media — it is just a question of whether you like him or not

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It is rather sad, in a pathetic, you have a low I.Q., low standard, and fake values sort of way that this is the person who energized the Republican Party base, only when McCain accepted his nomination... Kinda like setting the bar for victory over terrorism, that they haven't attacked and killed thousands... I guess that make sense if you set the bar for being in good health that you didn't lose an arm today!!!


I really only like this video for the Gregorian chants!!!

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Oh boy, the spelling police are out again!

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'Change' Can Lead to Catastrophe

Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:33 PM

By: Thomas Sowell  

Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous is not likely to get him to change his mind. But it may cost you a friend.

It is much the same story with true believers in Barack Obama. They have made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused by the facts, they resent being told the facts.

An e-mail from a reader mentioned trying to tell his sister why he was voting against Obama but, when he tried to argue some facts, she cut him short: "You don't like him and I do!" she said. End of discussion.

When one thinks of all the men who have put their lives on the line in battle to defend and preserve this country, it is especially painful to think that there are people living in the safety and comfort of civilian life who cannot be bothered to find out the facts about candidates before voting to put the fate of this nation, and of generations yet to come, in the hands of someone chosen because they like his words or style.

Of the four people running for president and vice president on the Republican and Democratic tickets, the one we know the least about is the one leading in the polls — Barack Obama.

Some of Sen. Obama's most fervent supporters could not tell you what he has actually done on such issues as crime, education, or financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, much less what he plans to do to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear nation supplying nuclear weapons to the international terrorist networks that it has supplied with other weapons.

The magic word "change" makes specifics unnecessary. If things are going bad, some think that what is needed is blank-check "change." But history shows any number of countries in crises worse than ours, where "change" turned problems into catastrophes.

In czarist Russia, for example, the economy was worse than ours is today and World War I was going far worse for the Russians than anything we have faced in Iraq. Moreover, Russians had nothing like the rights of Americans today. So they went for "change."

That "change" brought on a totalitarian regime that made the czars' despotism look like child's play. The communists killed more people in one year than the czars killed in more than 90 years, not counting the millions who died in a government-created famine in the 1930s.

Other despotic regimes in China, Cuba, and Iran were similarly replaced by people who promised "change" that turned out to be even worse than what went before.

Yet, many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters.

These ranged from Jim Jones who led hundreds to their deaths in Jonestown to Hitler and Mao who led millions to their deaths.

What specifics do we know about Barack Obama's track record that might give us some clue as to what kinds of "changes" to expect if he is elected?

We know that he opposed the practice of putting violent young felons on trial as adults. We know that he was against a law forbidding physicians to kill a baby that was born alive despite an attempt to abort it.

We know that Obama opposed attempts to put stricter regulations on Fannie Mae — and that he was the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. We know that this very year his campaign sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.

Fannie Mae and Raines were at the heart of "the mess in Washington" that Barack Obama claims he is going to clean up under the banner of "change."

The public has been told very little about what this man with the wonderful rhetoric has actually done. What we know is enough to make us wonder about what we don't know. Or it ought to. For the true believers — which includes many in the media — it is just a question of whether you like him or not




Commies, mass suicides... can you come up with more fear? 8 years of Bush, and all you got is fear! Smoking weed and being a Republican makes you really paranoid!
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Reply #485 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 1:13pm
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:56pm:
This article is both hilarious and informative.  It puts some real numbers to Barack's socialist redistribution plot:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/10/21/taxes/index.html


Gee Salon.com. Now there's an unbiased independant source for news. Not. Is it just me or is a bit twisted to try and destroy Joe Wurzelbacher's reputation just because he had the unmittigated gall to ask The Marxist One a question as he was walking past Joe's house? It wasn't Joe that screwed the pooch here. No, it was Barry's insanely socialist answer. Try and hide it. Try and deflect it. Try and smear Joe, but at the end of day it was Barry that said,"I want to spread the wealth around." That quote can't be taken back. It can't be taken out of context, and it can't be ignored. Except, of course, by those that have bathed in the Kool Aid. Enjoy your littler day in the sun should this man child win. I can promise you that he WILL destroy the Democrat Party within his forst two years. That will be a good thing. I, for one, can't wait to see Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid sitting on the sidelines knashing their teeth in utter contempt for the everyday Americans that will vote them out.



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I swore I'd never post in here again but I'm curious. How does one vote early (see Meggy, Pdog)??

LJ.


Some states had early voting when you registered(i.e. Ohio).  Personally, I asked for an absentee ballot when the request came in the mail(Ohio is highly suggesting this is the route to be used)  So I voted almost 2 weeks ago.  Each state has their own voting laws. I am glad I won't have to wait in the long lines on Election Day! Wink
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As to Starbuck's comment that two people can read one thing and get an entirely different interpretation, I will cite my own experience listening to the link to Levine you suggested should scare the living shit out of them who heard it.  Attempting to listen PAST Levine's tone to Alinsky's scary words was not, for me, all that scary.  Seemed like the same kind of deal as Art of War or The Prince, with a different agenda.  Levine's interpretations, however, remind me of those records from the late 60s by preachers using rock lyrics talking about the downfall of America, or videos of the religious right from the 80s interpreting lyrics to songs and saying they mean things they don't:  Levine was predisposed to interpret Rules for Radicals one way, and he did.  My own ears failed to hear, for instance, exploitation and would hear, weirdly enough, patriotism instead.  Then I would be told the words I just heard were exploitive.  Always a weird experience.

If you're going to bash Salon.com for being biased please know you've just thrown most of your links into serious question, particularly said Levine piece.  That's clearly an OPED and anyway, not presented as news, and, what, he's on the table for McCain as an inspirational icon but off the table for any kind of scrutiny??  Who the fuck does he think he is, Barack Obama???

That quote from Alinsky I pulled on the last page was taken from a 12 page interview with the man from this website: http://www.progress.org/archive/alinsky.htm  

The link to the interview is on the bottom of this page.

You will note, apropos of nothing (not putting this into evidence your honor, just commenting) that the subtitle of the article is "Champion of the Nonsocialist Left".  But I am sure this can just be written off as obfuscation and deceit on the part of them what put this site up in what is it, '03.  As are, I assume, the numerous truly radical radio shows I catch bits of now and then on that progressive radio I work at, before my eyes glaze and I put a Stones CD on, talking about how Obama is, obviously, no socialist, and they're saying it as if it were, you know, a bad thing.   They must be saying that to reassure their lighter left listeners that it's OK to like BO because he's, you know, not us, while at the same time nudging and winking to their, how you been saying . . . commrades [sic] (not to imply communism because you wouldn't) . . . in the know?

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LadyJane wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 11:15am:
I swore I'd never post in here again but I'm curious. How does one vote early (see Meggy, Pdog)??

LJ.


Some states had early voting when you registered(i.e. Ohio).  Personally, I asked for an absentee ballot when the request came in the mail(Ohio is highly suggesting this is the route to be used)  So I voted almost 2 weeks ago.  Each state has their own voting laws. I am glad I won't have to wait in the long lines on Election Day! Wink


I used an electronic voting machine, I liked the optical scanner paper ballots I sed in Commifornia much better! I've taken three showers, I can't clean off this voting straight Dem. ticket skank stank off me, I smell like a plump jewish intern covered in presidential baby making mix.
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Riff, thank you for taking the tone down a notch.  

As to Starbuck's comment that two people can read one thing and get an entirely different interpretation, I will cite my own experience listening to the link to Levine you suggested should scare the living shit out of them who heard it.  Attempting to listen PAST Levine's tone to Alinsky's scary words was not, for me, all that scary.  Seemed like the same kind of deal as Art of War or The Prince, with a different agenda.  Levine's interpretations, however, remind me of those records from the late 60s by preachers using rock lyrics talking about the downfall of America, or videos of the religious right from the 80s interpreting lyrics to songs and saying they mean things they don't:  Levine was predisposed to interpret Rules for Radicals one way, and he did.  My own ears failed to hear, for instance, exploitation and would hear, weirdly enough, patriotism instead.  Then I would be told the words I just heard were exploitive.  Always a weird experience.

That quote from Alinsky I pulled on the last page was taken from a 12 page interview with the man from this website: http://www.progress.org/archive/alinsky.htm  

The link to the interview is on the bottom of this page.

You will note, apropos of nothing (not putting this into evidence your honor, just commenting) that the subtitle of the article is "Champion of the Nonsocialist Left".  But I am sure this can just be written off as obfuscation and deceit on the part of them what put this site up in what is it, '03.  As are, I assume, the numerous truly radical radio shows I catch bits of now and then on that progressive radio I work at, before my eyes glaze and I put a Stones CD on, talking about how Obama is, obviously, no socialist, and they're saying it as if it were, you know, a bad thing.   They must be saying that to reassure their lighter left listeners that it's OK to like BO because he's, you know, not us, while at the same time nudging and winking to their, how you been saying . . . commrades [sic] (not to imply communism because you wouldn't) . . . in the know?




You're right about the 80's lyrics... Judas Priest didn't want you to kill yourself, they wanted you to be gay!!!
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"Commies, mass suicides... can you come up with more fear? 8 years of Bush, and all you got is fear! Smoking weed and being a Republican makes you really paranoid! "

I think you just made the man's point.

You don't like what you hear so you come after me?

You are treading dangerously close to the FPM line.
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'Change' Can Lead to Catastrophe

Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:33 PM

By: Thomas Sowell  

Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous is not likely to get him to change his mind. But it may cost you a friend.

It is much the same story with true believers in Barack Obama. They have made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused by the facts, they resent being told the facts.

An e-mail from a reader mentioned trying to tell his sister why he was voting against Obama but, when he tried to argue some facts, she cut him short: "You don't like him and I do!" she said. End of discussion.

When one thinks of all the men who have put their lives on the line in battle to defend and preserve this country, it is especially painful to think that there are people living in the safety and comfort of civilian life who cannot be bothered to find out the facts about candidates before voting to put the fate of this nation, and of generations yet to come, in the hands of someone chosen because they like his words or style.

Of the four people running for president and vice president on the Republican and Democratic tickets, the one we know the least about is the one leading in the polls — Barack Obama.

Some of Sen. Obama's most fervent supporters could not tell you what he has actually done on such issues as crime, education, or financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, much less what he plans to do to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear nation supplying nuclear weapons to the international terrorist networks that it has supplied with other weapons.

The magic word "change" makes specifics unnecessary. If things are going bad, some think that what is needed is blank-check "change." But history shows any number of countries in crises worse than ours, where "change" turned problems into catastrophes.

In czarist Russia, for example, the economy was worse than ours is today and World War I was going far worse for the Russians than anything we have faced in Iraq. Moreover, Russians had nothing like the rights of Americans today. So they went for "change."

That "change" brought on a totalitarian regime that made the czars' despotism look like child's play. The communists killed more people in one year than the czars killed in more than 90 years, not counting the millions who died in a government-created famine in the 1930s.

Other despotic regimes in China, Cuba, and Iran were similarly replaced by people who promised "change" that turned out to be even worse than what went before.

Yet, many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters.

These ranged from Jim Jones who led hundreds to their deaths in Jonestown to Hitler and Mao who led millions to their deaths.

What specifics do we know about Barack Obama's track record that might give us some clue as to what kinds of "changes" to expect if he is elected?

We know that he opposed the practice of putting violent young felons on trial as adults. We know that he was against a law forbidding physicians to kill a baby that was born alive despite an attempt to abort it.

We know that Obama opposed attempts to put stricter regulations on Fannie Mae — and that he was the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. We know that this very year his campaign sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.

Fannie Mae and Raines were at the heart of "the mess in Washington" that Barack Obama claims he is going to clean up under the banner of "change."

The public has been told very little about what this man with the wonderful rhetoric has actually done. What we know is enough to make us wonder about what we don't know. Or it ought to. For the true believers — which includes many in the media — it is just a question of whether you like him or not




Commies, mass suicides... can you come up with more fear? 8 years of Bush, and all you got is fear! Smoking weed and being a Republican makes you really paranoid!


Actually I think that's smoking weed and being over 35.  Or it is in my case.  These last couple of years, man, it's idle time + weed / (sitting around the house) = THE FEAR!!! In public I'm relatively OK I got something to do or to focus on, but at home, alone, where it used to be the sweetest . . . JESUS the entire world falls apart in my brain. 


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Here in Texas Joe the Redneck puts it another way..."The Damn Democraps want to take my money and give it  to n***rs!" How sad McShame ends his career in a flurry of coded racism and irrelevance.
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nankerphelge wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 1:31pm:
"Commies, mass suicides... can you come up with more fear? 8 years of Bush, and all you got is fear! Smoking weed and being a Republican makes you really paranoid! "

I think you just made the man's point.

You don't like what you hear so you come after me?

You are treading dangerously close to the FPM line.
Don't push it!


For someone who openly talks about smoking weed and not hiding your party, you sure can't take a very mild jab about all the fear shit you posted. I'll write you off with the other dude, I'm not going to be nasty, so if you felt attacked, consider yourself avoided by me... Politics are heated topics... pot and paranoid, is that really offensive to you? Just like voting, it is your choice. If you don't want to be my friend b/c I am hurting your feelings or putting you down, I totally understand.
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All I did was post an article.
You had to take a cheap shot at me.
You want to play it that way - that was your choice.
You want to avoid me - good idea.
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My vote's in...Vote early,vote often. But dammit VOTE Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?...(for obama Smiley)
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nankerphelge wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 2:36pm:
All I did was post an article.
You had to take a cheap shot at me.
You want to play it that way - that was your choice.
You want to avoid me - good idea.


I asked you if I hurt your feelings. Cheap shot? Really? You're that hurt, seriously... I 've been call stupid for two weeks repeatedly, if you can't take one misunderstood sarcastic comment, and take my clearing up of it, and want to trash a relationship over politcal differences... So be it.
I said, good day Sir!
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Some of you guys are tilting at windmills here. IRiffy



The pot calling the kettle black.
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lotsajizz wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 4:38pm:
Riffhard wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 11:21am:
Some of you guys are tilting at windmills here. IRiffy



The pot calling the kettle black.


Many and tragic are the self fullfilling prophecies apparent in this godawful quagmire of a thread, jizzy, so carefully must we tread.  Casualties on all sides:   blood, gore, ichor.  There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Will there be an American Rocks Off contingent left after two bloody more bloody weeks of bloody life within the bloody krauthammer microcosm?  Or will we all be sucked into a sucky suckhole of sucking suckiness? 

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it's the religious zealots here who seem to be making it personal...always have, they've an inability to avoid morally judging those with whom they disagree -- hence, if riffy or nanky thinks you're "wrong" you must be "bad"

I hate zealots

frankly, I hate religion too



OK now



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