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naked pictures of Reagan    
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Hoffa's body    
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DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
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JC's boss's phone number    
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bucket of chicken    
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three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
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"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
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Reply #4475 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 3:42pm
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Most intelligent people know that making public the length that our government will go to extract information from our enemies that want us all dead is stupid as hell! Most intelligent people know that the release of only certain aspects of the CIA papers was done for one reason, and one reason only. To besmirch the Bush Administration.

Funny how Barry Co. didn't release the pages in those reports that confirm that the enhanced interrogation techniques did, in fact, save hundreds, if not thousands, of American lives in LA among other places in the world! You, and your liberal buddies love to talk about how it's inhumane to waterboard someone! Bullshit! That is NOT torture! Everyone of our own Spec Ops guys, and CIA agents undergo waterboarding as a matter of training! I love how only liberals are the ones that can determine what is and what is not torture. It's not up to liberals to make that call! It's up to the guys in the field that are trying desperately to save innocent lives! Perhaps Barry, and his band of useless idiots should go watch the Nick Berg beheading video again before they start being complete pussies and refer to sleep deprivation as torture!  

In this case we now know for an absolute fact that these methods saved lives. Even Bill Clinton's former CIA chief confirmed this fact! Yet for liberals that matters not. For liberals it's always about good intentions and never results. Facts mean nothing to liberals if they are counter to their own ideology.

No, funman, you're wrong. Most intelligent people didn't vote for this fucking clown to begin with! He has proven to be a disaster on every single level! He has done nothing right! Not one single thing.


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Reply #4476 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 3:43pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:10pm:
I dunno about all that.
You seem borderline delusional on the state of conservatism.
We'll see what the future brings in that regard.
Putting that aside, I don't know where you got the notion that anyone thinks Chavez is out to attack the US.
The concern is Obama's willingness as the leader of the US to overlook what the man stands for and embrace him rather than denounce him.  

It is essentially the same problem he has had his entire life.  He associates himself with those that have it out for this country and what it stands for.
Whether Rev. Wright or Hugo Chavez, the man who is supposed to be our leader has poor judgment.
 

Get it (yet)?


The same could be said for you, nankerpheldge. There's a cognitive disconnect as the Right Wing attempts to merge reality with their partisan hopes. All kidding aside, the trend lines indicate The Republicans are done for. They are dying off and not being replaced by younger voters who reject Republican values overwelmingly. Regarding Chavez, see the posted Obama qoute. You can take what he says at face value, or look to the spinmeisters.
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Reply #4477 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 4:46pm
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while people debate the merits of torturing bin ladens limo driver to see what he had with his tea or the significance of a venezuelan politicians book club...........

Cyberspies hack into US fighter project - WSJ
Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:52am EDT  
WASHINGTON, April 21 (Reuters) - Computer spies have repeatedly breached the Pentagon's costliest weapons program, the $300 billion Joint Strike Fighter project, The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.

The newspaper quoted current and former government officials familiar with the matter as saying the intruders were able to copy and siphon data related to design and electronics systems, making it potentially easier to defend against the plane.

The spies could not access the most sensitive material, which is kept on computers that are not connected to the Internet, the paper added.

Citing people briefed on the matter, it said the intruders entered through vulnerabilities in the networks of two or three of the contractors involved in building the fighter jet.

Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N) is the lead contractor. Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N) and BAE Systems PLC (BAES.L) also have major roles in the project. Lockheed Martin and BAE declined comment and Northrop referred questions to Lockheed, the paper said.

The Journal said Pentagon officials declined to comment directly on the matter, but the paper said the Air Force had begun an investigation.

The identity of the attackers and the amount of damage to the project could not be established, the paper said.

The Journal quoted former U.S. officials as saying the attacks seemed to have originated in China, although it noted it was difficult to determine the origin because of the ease of hiding identities online.

The Chinese Embassy said China "opposes and forbids all forms of cyber crimes," the Journal said.

The officials added there had also been breaches of the U.S. Air Force's air traffic control system in recent months.

(Writing by Peter Cooney; Editing by John Stonestreet)
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Reply #4478 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 9:33pm
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Why is it that 9 (is it 9) military prisoner handlers from Abu Ghraib were convicted of abuse of captives and sentenced to time in military prison for stripping these prisoners naked or threatening them with ferocious dogs, but water boarding is Ok? It's only an enhanced interrogation?

Does anybody think that these handlers weren't following orders?
Does anybody believe that Rumsfeld or Cheney took a hands off position with regards to intelligence gathering at Abu Ghraib?
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Reply #4479 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 9:50pm
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Another opinion from MSNBC today:

Nora O’Donnell: 
General McCaffrey, let's start with you.  The President’s speech was largely a pep rally.  How did it go?

General Barry McCaffrey:
Good.  It was the right thing to do.  It's hard for me to overstate the degree of respect I have for the agency.  I worked with them closely for years. They're disciplined. They're courageous. They're effective. We ought to be grateful they're there. Having said that, it's almost an out of body experience to me to listen to this debate going on [whether these techniques were torture].  We should never as a policy maltreat people under our control, detainees.We tortured people unmercifully.  We probably murdered dozens of them during a course of that, both by the armed forces and CIA.  Releasing the memos was the right thing to do.

We have to move forward.
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There is prosecutorial discretion.  We shouldn't in my view go after the CIA officers involved in this.  There is a good argument in my view for reviewing the White House justice council and the Attorney General's office who ok'd this.
I think as a policy matter we better find out how thing went so wrong.

Nora O’Donnell:
Wow!



Well said Nora.
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Reply #4480 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 10:06pm
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I know these are frowned on here, but I really do love this man's art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmOwAHAIJ0
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Reply #4481 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 7:07am
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"Regarding Chavez, see the posted Obama qoute. You can take what he says at face value, or look to the spinmeisters."

So, you're standing on that quote at face value and you don't consider that spin?

I wouldn't consider that to be a particularly reliable source!

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Reply #4482 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 7:47am
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Post-partisan politics yet again:

WASHINGTON — Democrats controlling the House went on record again Wednesday in favor of advancing health care legislation while allowing only limited debate, which would minimize the ability of Republicans to wrest concessions on one of President Barack Obama's top domestic priorities.


By a 227-196 vote, the House affirmed Democrats' plans to move health care legislation under rules that block Republicans in the Senate from being able to slow — or even stop — it from proceeding.


The vote came as senior House and Senate Democrats negotiated the issue in private talks on the 2010 budget. Republicans are passionately against the idea of putting health care on a "fast track," saying it is too important and too complicated to be rushed through Congress under rules permitting just 20 hours of Senate debate.


But the White House is insisting on having the fast-track process — known as reconciliation under the arcane rules governing the congressional budget process — available to them, though they claim their preference is for a bipartisan measure.


As a practical matter, passing health care under fast-track procedures would give Democrats far more control over the details of the legislation. It would reduce the influence of not only Republicans but also conservative Senate Democrats like Ben Nelson of Nebraska.


But it also would provoke howls of outrage from Republicans claiming that filibuster-proof reconciliation legislation is not intended to be used to pass sweeping measures such as Obama's health care overhaul, which would drastically increase the size of government and the taxes needed to pay for it. It likely would mean that Republicans would abandon the health care effort and engage in scorched-earth tactics against it.


Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., warned that Democrats were preparing to use fast-track legislation "to jam through a government takeover of health care."

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Reply #4483 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 8:37am
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FROM THE WSJ:

Mark down the date. Tuesday, April 21, 2009, is the moment that any chance of a new era of bipartisan respect in Washington ended. By inviting the prosecution of Bush officials for their antiterror legal advice, President Obama has injected a poison into our politics that he and the country will live to regret.


AFP/Getty ImagesPolicy disputes, often bitter, are the stuff of democratic politics. Elections settle those battles, at least for a time, and Mr. Obama's victory in November has given him the right to change policies on interrogations, Guantanamo, or anything on which he can muster enough support. But at least until now, the U.S. political system has avoided the spectacle of a new Administration prosecuting its predecessor for policy disagreements. This is what happens in Argentina, Malaysia or Peru, countries where the law is treated merely as an extension of political power.

If this analogy seems excessive, consider how Mr. Obama has framed the issue. He has absolved CIA operatives of any legal jeopardy, no doubt because his intelligence advisers told him how damaging that would be to CIA morale when Mr. Obama needs the agency to protect the country. But he has pointedly invited investigations against Republican legal advisers who offered their best advice at the request of CIA officials.

"Your intelligence indicates that there is currently a level of 'chatter' equal to that which preceded the September 11 attacks," wrote Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, in his August 1, 2002 memo. "In light of the information you believe [detainee Abu] Zubaydah has and the high level of threat you believe now exists, you wish to move the interrogations into what you have described as an 'increased pressure phase.'"

So the CIA requests a legal review at a moment of heightened danger, the Justice Department obliges with an exceedingly detailed analysis of the law and interrogation practices -- and, seven years later, Mr. Obama says only the legal advisers who are no longer in government should be investigated. The political convenience of this distinction for Mr. Obama betrays its basic injustice. And by the way, everyone agrees that senior officials, including President Bush, approved these interrogations. Is this President going to put his predecessor in the dock too?

Mr. Obama seemed to understand the peril of such an exercise when he said, before his inauguration, that he wanted to "look forward" and beyond the antiterror debates of the Bush years. As recently as Sunday, Rahm Emanuel said no prosecutions were contemplated and now is not a time for "anger and retribution." Two days later the President disavowed his own chief of staff. Yet nothing had changed except that Mr. Obama's decision last week to release the interrogation memos unleashed a revenge lust on the political left that he refuses to resist.

Just as with the AIG bonuses, he is trying to co-opt his left-wing base by playing to it -- only to encourage it more. Within hours of Mr. Obama's Tuesday comments, Senator Carl Levin piled on with his own accusatory Intelligence Committee report. The demands for a "special counsel" at Justice and a Congressional show trial are louder than ever, and both Europe's left and the U.N. are signaling their desire to file their own charges against former U.S. officials.

Those officials won't be the only ones who suffer if all of this goes forward. Congress will face questions about what the Members knew and when, especially Nancy Pelosi when she was on the House Intelligence Committee in 2002. The Speaker now says she remembers hearing about waterboarding, though not that it would actually be used. Does anyone believe that? Porter Goss, her GOP counterpart at the time, says he knew exactly what he was hearing and that, if anything, Ms. Pelosi worried the CIA wasn't doing enough to stop another attack. By all means, put her under oath.

Mr. Obama may think he can soar above all of this, but he'll soon learn otherwise. The Beltway's political energy will focus more on the spectacle of revenge, and less on his agenda. The CIA will have its reputation smeared, and its agents second-guessing themselves. And if there is another terror attack against Americans, Mr. Obama will have set himself up for the argument that his campaign against the Bush policies is partly to blame.

Above all, the exercise will only embitter Republicans, including the moderates and national-security hawks Mr. Obama may need in the next four years. As patriotic officials who acted in good faith are indicted, smeared, impeached from judgeships or stripped of their academic tenure, the partisan anger and backlash will grow. And speaking of which, when will the GOP Members of Congress begin to denounce this partisan scapegoating? Senior Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Richard Lugar, John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Pat Roberts and Arlen Specter have hardly been profiles in courage.

Mr. Obama is more popular than his policies, due in part to his personal charm and his seeming goodwill. By indulging his party's desire to criminalize policy advice, he has unleashed furies that will haunt his Presidency.

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Reply #4485 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 11:18am
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Reply #4486 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 1:35pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 7:07am:

So, you're standing on that quote at face value and you don't consider that spin?

I wouldn't consider that to be a particularly reliable source!



So after eight years of Bush you can't take anything the President says at face value? Blank Frigging Stare

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Here we see Rupert Murdoch rallying the troops at the latest anti-Venisualian demonstration.
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Reply #4487 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 3:15pm
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That's the best you can do?!!

Thanks, you made my point.
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Reply #4488 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 6:40pm
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not even close Who stole this one? (Seriously)
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Riffhard wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 3:42pm:
You, and your liberal buddies love to talk about how it's inhumane to waterboard someone! Bullshit! That is NOT torture!

Riffy


Well if it's not inhumane, let's bring it to your children's school and replace detention with waterboarding. . .
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monkey_man wrote on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 9:20pm:
Riffhard wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 3:42pm:
You, and your liberal buddies love to talk about how it's inhumane to waterboard someone! Bullshit! That is NOT torture!

Riffy


Well if it's not inhumane, let's bring it to your children's school and replace detention with waterboarding. . .



Just got off the phone with a friend who told me Keith Olbermann had a segment on his show tonight, where they showed Sean Mannatee discussing waterboarding with Charles Grodin on the Manatee show recently. Apparently, Sean agree to get waterboarded for charity. So tonight Keith challenged Sean and said he would donate $1000/second to a veterans charity, should Sean not chicken out on his offer. $1000 per second, wow . . .

I personally doubt Sean has the balls to do it, even though we all know it's not torture to strap someone down and pretend to drown them.
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Reply #4491 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 10:46pm
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I know these are frowned on here, but I really do love this man's art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmOwAHAIJ0

"No short haired yellow-bellied son of Tricky-Dicky.."

Is that song relevant now or what, funman? John must have been channeling the future.
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Reply #4493 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:29am
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Washington, DC -- UK's Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at a high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington. Monckton told Climate Depot that the Democrats rescinded his scheduled joint appearance at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday. Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.

“The House Democrats don't want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”

According to Monckton, Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas), Ranking Member on the Energy & Commerce Committee, had invited him to go head to head with Gore and testify at the hearing on Capitol Hill Friday. But Monckton now says that when his airplane from London landed in the U.S. on Thursday, he was informed that the former Vice-President had “chickened out” and there would be no joint appearance. Gore is scheduled to testify on Friday to the Subcommittee on Energy and the Environment's fourth day of hearings on the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009. The hearing will be held in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building.

According to Monckton, House Democrats told the Republican committee staff earlier this week that they would be putting forward an unnamed 'celebrity' as their star witness Friday at a multi-panel climate hearing examining the House global warming bill. The "celebrity" witness turned out to be Gore. Monckton said the GOP replied they would respond to the Democrats' "celebrity" with an unnamed "celebrity" of their own. But Monckton claims that when the Democrats were told who the GOP witness would be, they refused to allow him to testify alongside Gore.

“The Democrats have a lot to learn about the right of free speech under the US Constitution. Congress Henry Waxman's (D-CA) refusal to expose Al Gore's sci-fi comedy-horror testimony to proper, independent scrutiny by the House minority reeks of naked fear,” Monckton said from the airport Thursday evening.

“Waxman knows there has been no 'global warming' for at least a decade. Waxman knows there has been seven and a half years' global cooling. Waxman knows that, in the words of the UK High Court judge who condemned Gore's mawkish movie as materially, seriously, serially inaccurate, 'the Armageddon scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view,'” Monckton explained. Monckton has previously testified before the House Committee in March. (See: Monckton: Have the courage to do nothing...US Congress told climate change is not real ) Monckton has also publicly challenged Gore to a debate. (See: Al Gore Challenged to International TV Debate on Global Warming By Lord Monckton - March 19, 2007 )

A call to the Democratic office of the House Energy and Commerce Committee seeking comment was not immediately returned Thursday night.

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By MARK DeCAMBRE
April 24, 2009

Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit's job security is increasingly in jeopardy as momentum grows in Washington to oust him.

With the bank stress tests wrapping up, sources tell The Post that regulators think they might have to make the bold move of removing Pandit to signal Washington is taking as hard a line with the banks as it did with General Motors when it effectively ousted GM CEO Rick Wagoner.

The talk of Pandit being dismissed comes amid speculation that a visit to Citi's offices by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner a week and a half ago might have been to discuss a change at the bank's helm. However, people familiar with the meeting said the visit was simply to conduct a checkup on the bank.
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enjoy the record highs this weekend!

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You, and your liberal buddies love to talk about how it's inhumane to waterboard someone! Bullshit! That is NOT torture!

Riffy


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It was considered torture in 1566 when the Spanish Inquisition did it....


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When it happened in the 1890s, Republican President Theodore Roosevelt, who  
privately thought "the water cure" was only "mild torture",  publicly called for efforts
to "prevent the occurrence of all such acts in the future." In that effort, he ordered
the court-martial of General Jacob H. Smith on the island of Samar, "where some
of the worst abuses had occurred." When the court-martial found only that he had
acted with excessive zeal, Roosevelt disregarded the verdict and had the General
dismissed from the Army.

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It was considered torture when the Japanese did it to American POWs in World War II...


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It was considered torture when Pol Pot did it...

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Seems like the US government thought it was torture in the 60s too,
but we all know what a liberal love-fest the Vietnam War was.


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Noted liberal pansy panty-waist John McCain reminded the American people  
during last year's Republican primary that some Japanese were tried and hanged
for torturing American prisoners during World War II with techniques that included
waterboarding.

"There should be little doubt from American history that we consider that as torture,
otherwise we wouldn't have tried and convicted Japanese for doing that same thing
to Americans," McCain said during a news conference.


"I would also hope that he would not want to be associated with a technique which
was invented in the Spanish Inquisition, was used by Pol Pot in one of the great eras
of genocide in history and is being used on Burmese monks as we speak," the Arizona
senator said. "America is a better nation than that."

"If the United States was in another conflict, which could easily happen, with another
country, and we have allowed that kind of torture to be inflicted on people we hold
captive, then there's nothing to prevent that enemy from also torturing American
prisoners," McCain said.







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Reply #4499 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 1:08pm
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Under President Obama we all now know that waterboarding would not have been used. At least that's what he says. He of course is adopting this tune because George Soros told him to adopt it, but that is beside the point.

So given the fact that we know that he would not have used this "harsh interrogation" technique we must ascertain what would have happened had he been president at the time of 9/11/01. President Bill Clinton and Bush's CIA chief, George Tenet has gone on the record and stated that once we captured Khalid Sheik Mofuckhim that when he asked directly about any newly planed attacks on the USA he said, "Soon you will know." He refused to cooperate at all. In fact every agent that tried to get him to talk came away with the attitude that he knew much more than he was willing to tell. They all said that he was acting with, "a arrogant contempt" for the interrogators. This is all according to Tenet, by the way.

Once he had been waterboarded 186 times he finally spilled his guts. In more ways than one apparently! LOL! He dropped the dime on a "second wave" operation involving a couple of dozen south east Asian Islamists inside the country prepping an attack on the Library Building in downtown LA. This attack was thwarted because of the waterboarding of KLM! These are verifiable facts, and these notes were the ones that were redacted by the White House by order of Barry Co.. It is these memos that Cheney has now asked to be declassified.


So what do we know? We know that Barry Co. would not have waterboarded KLM. We know that by not using this technique that hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans may well be dead. The plan was thwarted from KLM only after many waterboard sessions. We also know that Barry Co. is fully aware of the fact that many agents, and indeed a former CIA chief, is ready to testify that waterboarding saved hundreds of American lives, and led to the arrest of many Islamic terrorists inside the continental United States, and abroad.


So I ask all you liberals one question.

What is more morally correct. Using a technique that is harsh, but has saved lives. Or would you feel better knowing that many innocents died just to assuage your guilt?

I find it morally repugnant to allow innocent people to die just because I don't want to appear politically incorrect to the UN! This is the asshole that masterminded 9/11 after all! This man has the death of over 3,000 Americans on his hands as it is, and you don't want to waterboard him? Fuck him!

The President's first job as described in our founding documents is to ensure the safety and freedoms of the citizens of the USA. If Obama were president when KLM was captured he may well have the death of thousands of innocent Americans on his hands.


This is a political witch hunt and nothing more! It's going to do far more damage to Democrats than it ever will Republicans, and in the end it will vindicate the Bush Administration completely, and it seems as if Barry Co. are starting to figure this fact out!

I'd love to ask Khalid Sheik Mofuckhim what he would rather have done to him. Would he rather be waterboarded 186 times. Or would he have preferred to be beheaded once?


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