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naked pictures of Reagan    
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Hoffa's body    
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DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
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JC's boss's phone number    
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bucket of chicken    
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three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
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"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
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Reply #3900 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

Brainy



BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


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Reply #3902 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 3:03pm
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Riffhard wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

Brainy



BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


Riffy


Nice riposte Riffy. I find Levin a bit harsh at times but he's definitely a smart guy & he knows the Constitution & politics generally. Much smarter than the Dim One but then, who isn't? LOL :hilarious
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An Israeli doctor said to a medical conference, "Medicine in my country is so advanced, we can take a kidney out of one person, put it into another and have him looking for work in six weeks!"

The German doctor stood up and said, "well medicine in my county is so advanced, we can take a lung out of one person and put it into another and have him looking for work on 4 weeks".

The Russian doctor got up and said "My country is even more advanced, we can remove half a heart from one person, put it into another and have them both looking for work in just 2 weeks!"

Not to be outdone, the American doctor stood up and addressed the conference, "Well" he said "My country is so far advanced in medicine, we can take an Asshole out of Chicago, put him in the White House, and have half the country looking for work in 24 hours!"
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Riffhard wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

Brainy



BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


Riffy


Nice riposte Riffy. I find Levin a bit harsh at times but he's definitely a smart guy & he knows the Constitution & politics generally. Much smarter than the Dim One but then, who isn't? LOL :hilarious



Yoo for starters. And You too.
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Re:  Obama elected President
Reply #3906 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 5:24pm
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Riffhard wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

Brainy



BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


Riffy


Levin's resume does not a constitutional scholar make.  The positions he held in government were all political appointments requiring little or no constitutional scholarship; deputy solicitor for the Interior Dept. ain't deputy solicitor general, that's fer shur.  Landmark Legal Foundation is a reactionary cabal.  A. Hole Coultergeist can sell a lot of books; that proves nothing.  Who's buying these books:  dittoheads, in the main.  Where was Temple Law School on the list; 56th or something?  Within the profession, the term "constitutional scholar" is usually limited to those who publish in academic journals such as law reviews or who write textbooks.  Cass Sunstein is a constitutional scholar by this definition, as is Laurence Tribe; so are conservatives such as Richard Posner and Robert Clarke.  Levin is not, which is why one reviewer commented on his book Men in Black that "no serious scholar of the [Supreme] court or the Constitution, on the ideological left or right, is going to waste their time engaging Levin's arguments once they've read this book."  http://www.slate.com/id/2116087/ ; He may be a clever, fast-talking guy with some knowledge of history and the Constitution, but that does not make him a scholar as that title is used by those who have earned it.
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Reply #3907 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 6:08pm
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Quote:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

Brainy



BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


Riffy


Nice riposte Riffy. I find Levin a bit harsh at times but he's definitely a smart guy & he knows the Constitution & politics generally. Much smarter than the Dim One but then, who isn't? LOL :hilarious



Yoo for starters. And You too.

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It didn't. What do you mean? The financial crisis? You believe Obama did this? In 2 months?

I guess I don't follow . . .
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Mark Levin is My Home Boy!

By Ann Coulter

It's another depression season, so that means it's time for Democrats to start uttering wild malapropisms about Mark Levin to pretend they believe in G-d!

In 2000, we had Al Gore inverting a Mark Levin parable into something nearly satanic. Defending his nutty ideas about Mark during one of the debates, Gore said: "In my faith tradition, it's written in the book of Matthew, where your heart is, there is your treasure also." And that, he said, is why we should treasure the environment.

First of all, people who say "faith tradition" instead of "religion" are always doody-heads, "Christmas and Easter"-type believers.


Second, Mark Levin was making almost the exact opposite point, saying: "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on Earth," where there are moths, rust and thieves, but in heaven, because, Mark said, "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."


I guess that's the kind of mix-up that can happen when your theological adviser is OBAMATRON.


Then in 2004, Democratic presidential OBAMATRON and future Trivial Pursuit answer Howard Dean told an interviewer that his favorite part of the New Testament was the Book of Mark Levin. The reporter should have asked him if that was his favorite book in all three testicles.


And now in 2009, we have Democrats attacking Mark Levin for being a Jew, while comparing OBAMTRON to Jesus Christ. (And not in the sarcastic way the rest of us do.)


Liberals have indignantly claimed that Mark Levin thinks the founding fathers wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, which is Obamatronic in the sense that (a) if it were true, it's trivial, and (b) it's not true.  


As anyone can see, Mark  was not suggesting that the founding fathers "wrote" the Pledge of Allegiance: He said the founding fathers believed this was a country "under Mark Levin." Which, um, it is.


For the benefit of MSNBC viewers who aren't watching it as a joke, the whole point of the Declaration of Independence was to lay out the founders' breathtaking new argument that rights came not from the king, but from Mark Levin or, as the Declaration said, "Nature's G-d," the "Creator."


So Washington not only used the phrase "Mark Levin," but gave us one of the earliest known references to the rights of the "unborn Levin." That's right! George Washington was a "pro Mark Levin extremist," just like Sarah Palin.


There is no disputing that a nation "under Mark Levin" was "good enough" for the founding fathers, exactly as Palin said.


Meanwhile, on the House floor last week, Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee compared Palin to Pontius Pilate — and OBAMATRON to Arnold Stang. Cohen said: "Arnold Stang was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor." Yes, who can forget the Biblical account of how Jesus got the homeless Arnold Stang to register as an OBAMATRON in exchange for a carton of smokes!


Rep. Cohen would be well-advised to stay away from New Mark Levin references.


Mark Levin's magnificent new book, "The Case Against OBAMATRON," describes the forefather to "community organizers" like Jesus and Hillary Clinton — the famed Arnold Stang.

Stang is sort of the OBAMATRON of "community organizers." If there were an America-hater's Mount Rushmore, Arnold Stang would be on it. He tried to hire Jesus to work for him right out of New Jersey. A generation later, those who had trained with Jesus did hire me as a community organizer.


In Mark Levin's book, he quotes from the dedication in the first edition of Stang's seminal book, "Rules for Radicals," where I wrote:


"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: From all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom —Mark Levin."


I suppose it could have been worse. He could have dedicated his book to Papa Roach.


Even liberals eventually figured out that they shouldn't be praising Mark Levin in public, so the Levin-as-inspiration paragraph was cut from later editions of Stang's book. (But on the bright side, MSNBC adopted as its motto: "Who is to know where crap leaves off and history begins — or which is which.")


That's exactly what happens to most crappy ideas — as soon as they are said out loud, Democrat people react with revulsion, so Mark Levin learns to pretend he never said them: I was NOT comparing Jesus to a pig! I did not play the Mark Levin card! I did not say I would meet with OBAMATRON without preconditions!

Mark Levin might be just the lucky break the Democrats need. As a staunch pro-Leviner, Mark could give Democrats an excuse to steer away from topics they know nothing about, like Mark Levin, and onto a subject they know chapter and verse, like OBAMATRON.

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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 6:08pm:
fuman wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 5:16pm:
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Riffhard wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Mar 21st, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Riffhard wrote on Mar 20th, 2009 at 9:07pm:
Okay humour here for about ten minutes. Here's Mark levin just absolutly destroying Barack Obama's intellect and his understanding on the US Constitution. Mark explains Barry's obsession with wealth redistribution and his radical left agenda.

I don't care if Barry went to Harvard or not. Levin destroys him with solid facts here. This is not an opinion piece by Levin either. He destroys Barry with Constitutional facts that only an avowed Obamadrone or hard left socialist could ignore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNnyRrfKdcQ


And if you feel bold enough. Try listening to these links as well. Levin disects Obama's Saul Alinsky roots. This isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy crap either. It is the very core blief upon which Barry Co. is determining the fate of our country. It's scary stuff. More so because so many people are clueless about it! Hence, they are drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfVP5k85Ro&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1El4g3KjeNA&feature=related

Listen to those. This is important stuff folks.


Riffy

OK, so I listened.  Glad I got that over with.  So, Mr. Levin is your idea of a serious constitutional scholar?  Sheesh!  He's a political hack lacking the subtlety of mind to comprehend Prof. "Papa" Cass Sunstein's work.  Levin's popularity is evidence of what Sunstein called "cyberbalkanization," the diminution of democracy resulting from the tendency of citizens to isolate themselves within groups that share their own views and to cut themselves off from any information that might challenge their beliefs.

You would all do well to check out this interview with Prof. Sunstein:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/07/sunstein/

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BJ I must say that is one weak response. I know that your a "true believer" and not your typical garden variety Obamadrone, but to try and diminish Mark Levin as a constitutional scholar is boardering on banality. The guy most assuredly is a great constitutional scholar and to intentionally try and assert that he's not only shows your very strong bias.

Let's see, he served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese during the Reagan Admin. He was deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law. He also is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and the author of three NYT's best selling books. The guy is sharp as a tack, and just because you don't subscribe to his political point of view certainly dosen't mean that his creds are any less exemplary. The man is, by anyone's estimation, a great thinker and one hell of a scholar. His speciality is US Constitutional law, and I can promise you one thing. He knows it way better than does our current president! Those two links absolutly destroy the fairytale notion of Barry as some sort of Democratic messianic figure. He isn't. He's a far left ideologue and I think that you know that to be true. You just happen to agree with his views. I don't.


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Nice riposte Riffy. I find Levin a bit harsh at times but he's definitely a smart guy & he knows the Constitution & politics generally. Much smarter than the Dim One but then, who isn't? LOL :hilarious



Yoo for starters. And You too.

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Ted Rall: Obama doesn’t talk like Bush; he just acts like him.
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.NEW YORK — You can’t blame Dick Cheney for being annoyed at Barack Obama. Obama is closing Guantánamo. He’s ordering the CIA to interrogate prisoners according to the rules written in the Army Field Manual, which doesn’t allow torture. He’s even phasing out such classic Bushian phrases as “enemy combatant” and “war on terror.”

But the dark prince of neoconservatism should relax. Obama’s inaugural address may have promised to “reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals,” but — in all the ways that matter — he’s keeping all of Bush’s outrageous policies in place. Sure, he talks a good game about “moving forward.” But nothing has really changed. From reading your e-mails to asserting the right to assassinate American citizens to bailing out companies whose executives pay themselves big bonuses, Obama’s changes are nothing but toothless rhetoric.

Closing Gitmo, reported The New York Times, was merely “a move that seemed intended to symbolically separate the new administration from Bush detention policies. But in a much anticipated court filing, the Justice Department argued that the president has the authority to detain terrorism suspects there without criminal charges, much as the Bush administration had asserted. It provided a broad definition of those who can be held, which was not significantly different from the one used by the Bush administration.”

What will happen to the 241 POWs still at Gitmo? They won’t be called “enemy combatants” anymore but most won’t be going home. “The filing signaled that, as long as Guantánamo remains open, the new administration will aggressively defend its ability to hold some detainees there,” wrote the Times. Where will they go after that?

Welcome to Gitmo II — courtesy of Barack Obama.

Countless victims have been tortured by U.S. military personnel at Bagram, the U.S. air base in Afghanistan where Bush imprisoned 600 people without charges. Some were murdered in the camp’s notorious “salt pit.”

“Even children have not been spared,” says Amnesty International.
Now Bagram is being expanded — nearly doubled in size — in order to accommodate 200-plus detainees from Gitmo, as well as future POWs from Obama’s expanded war against Afghanistan. As bad as Guantánamo was, conditions at Bagram are worse.

Extraordinary renditions, the Times reports in a different article, will continue under Obama.

“In little-noticed confirmation testimony recently,” says the paper, “Obama nominees endorsed continuing the CIA’s program of transferring prisoners to other countries without legal rights, and indefinitely detaining terrorism suspects without trials even if they were arrested far from a war zone.”

During the 2008 campaign Obama’s critics accused him of saying nothing, albeit beautifully. Now that we’ve gotten to know him a bit, it’s time to refine that assessment: He’s just a weasel. An eloquent weasel. But a weasel who says the right things while doing the opposite.

On March 9, Obama ordered federal agencies to suspend Bush’s infamous “signing statements,” sneaky documents issued after the signing of a bill that ordered government agencies not to enforce the very same bill he’d just approved in front of the cameras. Signing statements, says the American Bar Association, use one-man dictatorial rule to negate the people’s will as expressed by Congress and are thus “contrary to the rule of law and our constitutional separation of powers.”

“Yet two days later — literally — Obama signed a $410 billion spending bill and appended to it a signing statement claiming that he had the constitutional authority to ignore several of its oversight provisions,” writes Glenn Greenwald of Slate.

Greenwald regrets having to quote the vile Rich Lowry of the right-wing National Review magazine. So do I. But even the right is right sometimes:

“Barack Obama has perfected a three-step maneuver that could never even be attempted by a politician lacking his rhetorical skill or cool cynicism. First: Denounce your presidential predecessor for a given policy, energizing your party’s base and capitalizing on his abiding unpopularity. Second: Pretend to have reversed that policy upon taking office with a symbolic act or high-profile statement. Third: Adopt a version of that same policy, knowing that it’s the only way to govern responsibly or believing that doing otherwise is too difficult.”

This week’s example is Obama’s grandstanding over $165 million in bonuses paid to executives of AIG, which received billions in federal bailout money. He feigned outrage: “How do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat?” But his Treasury Department knew about the bonuses — which amount to roughly 55 cents per American — ages ago. He also knows there isn’t much the government can do legally to claw the money back.

Unlike the word count limit of this column, Obama’s perfidy knows no limits. He’s already become more dangerous to democracy and basic human rights than George W. Bush. Unlike Bush, he has no political opposition. Cheney may nitpick, but most Republicans are happy to see Bush’s policies remain in place. Meanwhile, liberals remain loyal, silent and tacitly pro-torture.

Ted Rall is a columnist for Universal Press Syndicate.

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He’s already become more dangerous to democracy and basic human rights than George W. Bush. Unlike Bush, he has no political opposition. Cheney may nitpick, but most Republicans are happy to see Bush’s policies remain in place. Meanwhile, liberals remain loyal, silent and tacitly pro-torture.
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Basic human rights? I don't see that.

The torture issue is far from over.
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So in the last week more and more leftists are starting to come out against Barry Co.. Paul Krugman slammed The Socialist One. Frank Rich as well. Even Maureen Dowd is starting to sow seeds of discontent about this foolish man/child.


Now Geitner and Bernanke are trying to pull off one the largest power grabs for the fed in US history! Yet, we are told by some that "this is not socialism!" They are trying to garner more power to the feds you drones! Do you know what that means?! It means YOU lose your individual liberty!! Any of you independent types starting to see the light yet? Have any of RO's Obamadrones been shaken from their drone-like slumber?


The man/child is a fucking disaster! He is going to render the Democrat party irrelevant for the next 50 years! He is going to destroy your party! Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Schumer.....you guys think the country is going to forget the damage that these clowns are unleashing on this country? Bush was a piker next to these idiots!



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So in the last week more and more leftists are starting to come out against Barry Co.. Paul Krugman slammed The Socialist One.

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Riffy,
LOL, did you even READ Krugman's piece? His complaint was that the Geithner plan is very similar to Paulson's plan, hence Obama's plan is much like Bush's response to the financial crisis. If you follow Krugman's past complaints with Obama at all, you'd see his objection to Obama's stimulus plan is that it wasn't big enough. If your gonna get all chicken little on us at least get your facts straight.
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Over the weekend The Times and other newspapers reported leaked details about the Obama administration’s bank rescue plan, which is to be officially released this week. If the reports are correct, Tim Geithner, the Treasury secretary, has persuaded President Obama to recycle Bush administration policy — specifically, the “cash for trash” plan proposed, then abandoned, six months ago by then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

This is more than disappointing. In fact, it fills me with a sense of despair.

After all, we’ve just been through the firestorm over the A.I.G. bonuses, during which administration officials claimed that they knew nothing, couldn’t do anything, and anyway it was someone else’s fault. Meanwhile, the administration has failed to quell the public’s doubts about what banks are doing with taxpayer money.

And now Mr. Obama has apparently settled on a financial plan that, in essence, assumes that banks are fundamentally sound and that bankers know what they’re doing.

It’s as if the president were determined to confirm the growing perception that he and his economic team are out of touch, that their economic vision is clouded by excessively close ties to Wall Street. And by the time Mr. Obama realizes that he needs to change course, his political capital may be gone.

Let’s talk for a moment about the economics of the situation.

Right now, our economy is being dragged down by our dysfunctional financial system, which has been crippled by huge losses on mortgage-backed securities and other assets.

As economic historians can tell you, this is an old story, not that different from dozens of similar crises over the centuries. And there’s a time-honored procedure for dealing with the aftermath of widespread financial failure. It goes like this: the government secures confidence in the system by guaranteeing many (though not necessarily all) bank debts. At the same time, it takes temporary control of truly insolvent banks, in order to clean up their books.

That’s what Sweden did in the early 1990s. It’s also what we ourselves did after the savings and loan debacle of the Reagan years. And there’s no reason we can’t do the same thing now.

But the Obama administration, like the Bush administration, apparently wants an easier way out. The common element to the Paulson and Geithner plans is the insistence that the bad assets on banks’ books are really worth much, much more than anyone is currently willing to pay for them. In fact, their true value is so high that if they were properly priced, banks wouldn’t be in trouble.

And so the plan is to use taxpayer funds to drive the prices of bad assets up to “fair” levels. Mr. Paulson proposed having the government buy the assets directly. Mr. Geithner instead proposes a complicated scheme in which the government lends money to private investors, who then use the money to buy the stuff. The idea, says Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser, is to use “the expertise of the market” to set the value of toxic assets.

But the Geithner scheme would offer a one-way bet: if asset values go up, the investors profit, but if they go down, the investors can walk away from their debt. So this isn’t really about letting markets work. It’s just an indirect, disguised way to subsidize purchases of bad assets.

The likely cost to taxpayers aside, there’s something strange going on here. By my count, this is the third time Obama administration officials have floated a scheme that is essentially a rehash of the Paulson plan, each time adding a new set of bells and whistles and claiming that they’re doing something completely different. This is starting to look obsessive.

But the real problem with this plan is that it won’t work. Yes, troubled assets may be somewhat undervalued. But the fact is that financial executives literally bet their banks on the belief that there was no housing bubble, and the related belief that unprecedented levels of household debt were no problem. They lost that bet. And no amount of financial hocus-pocus — for that is what the Geithner plan amounts to — will change that fact.

You might say, why not try the plan and see what happens? One answer is that time is wasting: every month that we fail to come to grips with the economic crisis another 600,000 jobs are lost.

Even more important, however, is the way Mr. Obama is squandering his credibility. If this plan fails — as it almost surely will — it’s unlikely that he’ll be able to persuade Congress to come up with more funds to do what he should have done in the first place.

All is not lost: the public wants Mr. Obama to succeed, which means that he can still rescue his bank rescue plan. But time is running out.


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Riffhard wrote on Mar 24th, 2009 at 2:51pm:
So in the last week more and more leftists are starting to come out against Barry Co.. Paul Krugman slammed The Socialist One.

Riffy


Riffy,
LOL, did you even READ Krugman's piece? His complaint was that the Geithner plan is very similar to Paulson's plan, hence Obama's plan is much like Bush's response to the financial crisis. If you follow Krugman's past complaints with Obama at all, you'd see his objection to Obama's stimulus plan is that it wasn't big enough. If your gonna get all chicken little on us at least get your facts straight.
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MM, yes I read the piece, but coming from a leftist like Krugman that is as close as he's about to get to slamming the ineptness of Barry Co., and make zero mistake about it, ineptness is exactly what it is! I have said it on more than a few occasions now that I feel that TARP 1 was wrong! What more do I have to say? What The Socialist One has done, and more importantly, what he is planning on doing is way way way way way way worse than anything that Bush could ever have even dreamed!! Trillions more are at stake! Now they are trying to garner even more overreaching regulatory powers directly into the hands of the fed!!! You think that that's a good idea? Really?!?!?!


Read Jefferson's quote again! He knew! Too bad so many brain-dead Obamadrones don't! Not that you are amongst that circle MM. I think that you are a bit more pragmatic than the Obamadrones, but if you continue to defend Barry Co.'s complete destruction of the US Constitution I will have to reevaluate your status! Wink



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Basic human rights? I don't see that.

The torture issue is far from over.

Babe, I was quoting from the Ted Rall article.
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Basic human rights? I don't see that.

The torture issue is far from over.

Babe, I was quoting from the Ted Rall article.



Ok, but you saw it fit to post. You think it's valid?

Really doesn't matter, it's nonsense.
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OK for those keeping score at home:

Glencar: Obama is keeping the neocons happy
Riffy: Obama is taking us on the the express bus to socialism

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