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Riffhard
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Re: Obama elected President
Reply #3381 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 6:57am
So socialism hadn't been invented yet so the Founding Fathers could never have really commented on it, huh? Is that your assertion BJ?
Well perhaps the word socialism was not yet in vogue, or that particular form of governance had not yet been put into practice. However, there can be no doubt that the Founders were well aware of the evils of this particular "progressive" form of government that had not yet been invented.
Here's what a few of them had to say about it.
"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, 'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.'" -- Thomas Jefferson
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” — Thomas Jefferson
"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If ‘Thou shalt not covet’ and ‘Thou shalt not steal’ were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it can be civilized or made free.” — John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, 1787
“[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.” — James Madison
I personally always loved this one-
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin
Another great one from Ben-
“The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.” — Benjamin Franklin
I could cite many more BJ, but you get the general idea here I think. The bottom line is the Founding Fathers feared the thought of wealth redistribution as means for providing for the populace. This is, of course, the very principle upon which socialism/Marxism/communism/collectivism are founded on. These are these ideas that, so called, progressives embrace openly. They could not be futher from the ideals upon which our nation was founded though, and I could care less if socialsim had been invented yet or not! The Founders were wise enough to know that it would spell the end of the republic should it ever be adopted. Obama ignores these warnings and so too do all of the drones that believe that he has any answers to ur economic downturn. He doesn't!
Oh, and here are a couple of brilliant quotes about socialism/communism from a couple of conservatives that liberals love to hate.
"Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good." -- Ayn Rand
"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." -- Ronald Reagan
And one more from Moonie's favorite conservative!
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." -- Winston Churchill
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