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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #2500 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:41pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:35pm:
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Obama is trying to unite the country..We need a tour to unite us all here.....

Neither one is going to happen...


Apparently not.......oh well back to my Bassmasters Fantasy League draft.....

Sorry, but things like this on the new & "improved" whitehouse.gov page don't give me hope...



President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur. President Obama swiftly responded to Hurricane Katrina. Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" in responding to Hurricane Katrina, then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities. President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.
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Reply #2501 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:48pm
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"President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast."

This is indeed reaching across the aisle!
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Reply #2502 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:50pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:37pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:35pm:
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gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:27pm:
Obama is trying to unite the country..We need a tour to unite us all here.....

Neither one is going to happen...


Apparently not.......oh well back to my Bassmasters Fantasy League draft.....

I tried to sign up for that, however, I do not like Vienna Sausages, and
was disqualified.  They told me to start using Skoal, and I'd get reconsidered.
I do fish for largemouths often, however, I did not cut it with the Bubba crowd...
Good luck!


Thanks Nellie....I had to Skoal my way in and it was nasty....But lookin for a big year out the number 16 boat!
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Reply #2503 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:59pm
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" Sorry, but things like this on the new & "improved" whitehouse.gov page don't give me hope... "

You know what gives me hope blue ?


That is right ...... you ' right wingers ' now have to DANCE !!!!!!!



Do a Lil' ' Two - Step  ' for your Uncle Joey .


Dance .......... I said , " Dance Boy !!! "  Give Joey a  ' Number ' .


*** Joey now giggling to himself here at the office !!! ***



I SAID DANCE !!!!!!!!


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Reply #2504 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:01pm
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Joey wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:59pm:
" Sorry, but things like this on the new & "improved" whitehouse.gov page don't give me hope... "

You know what gives me hope blue ?


That is right ...... you ' right wingers ' now have to DANCE !!!!!!!



Do a Lil' ' Two - Step  ' for your Uncle Joey .


Dance .......... I said , " Dance Boy !!! "  Give Joey a  ' Number ' .


*** Joey now giggling to himself here at the office !!! ***



I SAID DANCE !!!!!!!!


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http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20090120/i/r2310073519.jpgx=400&y=282&q=85&...
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Reply #2505 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:06pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:50pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:37pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:35pm:
Quote:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:27pm:
Obama is trying to unite the country..We need a tour to unite us all here.....

Neither one is going to happen...


Apparently not.......oh well back to my Bassmasters Fantasy League draft.....

I tried to sign up for that, however, I do not like Vienna Sausages, and
was disqualified.  They told me to start using Skoal, and I'd get reconsidered.
I do fish for largemouths often, however, I did not cut it with the Bubba crowd...
Good luck!


Thanks Nellie....I had to Skoal my way in and it was nasty....But lookin for a big year out the number 16 boat!


Bud shootout Feb.7 Let's go get drunk
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Reply #2506 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:18pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:06pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:50pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:37pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:35pm:
Quote:
gimmekeef wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 2:27pm:
Obama is trying to unite the country..We need a tour to unite us all here.....

Neither one is going to happen...


Apparently not.......oh well back to my Bassmasters Fantasy League draft.....

I tried to sign up for that, however, I do not like Vienna Sausages, and
was disqualified.  They told me to start using Skoal, and I'd get reconsidered.
I do fish for largemouths often, however, I did not cut it with the Bubba crowd...
Good luck!


Thanks Nellie....I had to Skoal my way in and it was nasty....But lookin for a big year out the number 16 boat!


Bud shootout Feb.7 Let's go get drunk


Boogittyboogiddy...Gitter done............
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Reply #2507 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:24pm
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LadyJane wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 1:58pm:
In all seriousness (and I ain't no big fan of either of these guys) I found this to be one of the most moving pics from yesterday. I truly believe this was a sincere moment.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20090121/2009_01_20t131153_340x450_us_obama.j...

LJ.


It does look quite moving, as if Bush is immensely relieved to leave all the shit hitting the fan to the new guy....

LJ: I don't know if you enjoy reading novels, but if you do, you ought to give "American Wife" by Curtis Sittenfeld a go, I finished it last November and found it truly fascinating. I believe it is "modelled" on Laura Bush .
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Reply #2508 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:26pm
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Guys, this Christianity issue is really starting to get legs.  Many top evangelicals are questioning whether George Walker Bush III was ever a true Christian as alleged.  See Dueteronomy 18:22.  It would explain why all his purported prayers for guidance yielded what they did.  History, not to mention other measures of the man, will not be kind here.  Not one bit, I'm afraid.
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Reply #2509 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:34pm
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sirmoonie wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:26pm:
Guys, this Christianity issue is really starting to get legs.  Many top evangelicals are questioning whether George Walker Bush III was ever a true Christian as alleged.  See Dueteronomy 18:22.  It would explain why all his purported prayers for guidance yielded what they did.  History, not to mention other measures of the man, will not be kind here.  Not one bit, I'm afraid.


You are sounding very Pelosi like.
No Celtic fan would stoop to such depths.
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Reply #2510 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:38pm
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BTW,for all the talk about how the stock market was down yesterday on inauguration day. Dow was up 279 Pts today. The first full day in office for Obama.
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Reply #2511 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:49pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 3:38pm:
BTW,for all the talk about how the stock market was down yesterday on inauguration day. Dow was up 279 Pts today. The first full day in office for Obama.

It's only up because it was Socialist George Walker Bush III's first day out of office. 

While he was in office, the Dow fell around 3,000 points.  That's a lot.  Wall Street dislikes Socialists like George Walker Bush III because often times they openly admit to chucking their alleged free-market principles aside.  That's gay.
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Reply #2512 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 4:03pm
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everything is arie man.
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Reply #2513 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 4:15pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 4:03pm:
everything is arie man.

I was temporarily erroneous, the Dow was only 2,300 points down for George Walker Bush III's presidency.  Still, that is by far the worst performance by any president of the modern era, including Jimmy Carter.  Carter also held WAY stronger Christian beliefs than George Walker Bush III too, so things are looking like really fucking bad for goober historical-wise.  He failed in every measure that was important to even his own deluded geeks.
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Reply #2514 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 5:46pm
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sad jimi wasn't around to see yesterday - he would have dug it

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nO0F4ugss&feature=related
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Reply #2515 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 5:56pm
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sad jimi wasn't around to see yesterday - he would have dug it

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nO0F4ugss&feature=related


what the hell do you care about america?  you live in australia.
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as most here would know i am usually not one for personal abuse but with you i must make an exception:

and so I say - you,sir, are a Blockhead - you lack tact, insight and objectivity - not to mention poise and moxie

if you cannot see how anyone, american or otherwise, would not have found the past day's events if not extremely moving then at least hugely significant from an historical point of view then you simply make flesh the stereo-type of the insular American - which stereo-type, i might add, Obama has gone some way in discrediting
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Reply #2517 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:08pm
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 6:10pm:
as most here would know i am usually not one for personal abuse but with you i must make an exception:

and so I say - you,sir, are a Blockhead - you lack tact, insight and objectivity - not to mention poise and moxie

if you cannot see how anyone, american or otherwise, would not have found the past day's events if not extremely moving then at least hugely significant from an historical point of view then you simply make flesh the stereo-type of the insular American - which stereo-type, i might add, Obama has gone some way in discrediting


Post of the Year (yeah I know)........Thanks Stoned for putting it in perspective..
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Reply #2518 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:15pm
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 6:10pm:
as most here would know i am usually not one for personal abuse but with you i must make an exception:

and so I say - you,sir, are a Blockhead - you lack tact, insight and objectivity - not to mention poise and moxie

if you cannot see how anyone, american or otherwise, would not have found the past day's events if not extremely moving then at least hugely significant from an historical point of view then you simply make flesh the stereo-type of the insular American - which stereo-type, i might add, Obama has gone some way in discrediting


Post of the Year (yeah I know)........Thanks Stoned for putting it in perspective..


Beat me to it, keef!!  Grin Grin Cool

Good one SIA!
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Reply #2519 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:23pm
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Stop fighting and watch me on Frontline.


I watched it, Brainbell. Did you guys do that all the time, or did you go to class sometimes?  Smiley
Just kidding. It was fun seeing you.
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Reply #2520 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:26pm
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 9:22am:
Stop fighting and watch me on Frontline.


I watched it, Brainbell. Did you guys do that all the time, or did you go to class sometimes?  Smiley
Just kidding. It was fun seeing you.

Yes I watched it too, BJ!!

Brings back good memories too, I bet?!!!
Thanks for sharing your history
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Reply #2521 - Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:41pm
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as most here would know i am usually not one for personal abuse but with you i must make an exception:

and so I say - you,sir, are a Blockhead - you lack tact, insight and objectivity - not to mention poise and moxie

if you cannot see how anyone, american or otherwise, would not have found the past day's events if not extremely moving then at least hugely significant from an historical point of view then you simply make flesh the stereo-type of the insular American - which stereo-type, i might add, Obama has gone some way in discrediting


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President Obama will get to use a Blackberry -- with a new "super-encryption package" -- for "routine and personal messages" to his friends and family.

However, "it's not clear whether he yet has the device."




Hey man he's the leader of the indebted world of course he needs encryption!
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President Obama will get to use a Blackberry -- with a new "super-encryption package" -- for "routine and personal messages" to his friends and family.

However, "it's not clear whether he yet has the device."




Hey man he's the leader of the indebted world of course he needs encryption!

I think they didn't want him having a Blackberry because the POTUS has to have everything saved in case of later court cases.
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Hey Monkey Man!

Found this '01 article about Rich....seems like there's some items in your posted story that the writer left out.  He forgot, articles stay online for years....43's commutation of two border patrol cops is pretty "good & plenty" as opposed to Rich.

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21595

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ALL THE EX-PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS
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He wasn't born Rich. No, he was born Marc David Reich in Belgium in 1934 to a working-class Jewish father. Fearing the Nazis, his family fled to America in 1942, changed their name to Rich and tried to start life all over again.
Forty-one years later, Marc Rich was fleeing again, but this time the feared authority was not Adolph Hitler, but the assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Morris (Sandy) Weinberg. Rich's crimes included tax evasion, fraud and "trading with the enemy" -- Iran, during the hostage crisis.

Rich, by now a multimillionaire, was in Switzerland on the day his indictment came down and decided to stay. Once again, Rich started his life afresh, leaving his old wife Denise for a young blond model, changing the name of one of his Swiss firms and starting a new business.

On Jan. 20, President Clinton gave Rich a chance for a third "do-over." Clinton wiped all the criminal charges off of Rich's record with a presidential pardon on his last day in power. The Rich pardon has received special attention because Denise Rich raised and donated more than $1 million to the Democratic Party in recent years and also provided the Clintons directly with a $10,000 contribution to their legal defense fund and $7,300 worth of furniture.

Even left-wing newspapers and columnists have rebuked Clinton for pardoning Rich. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., declared himself "troubled." Bush White House lawyers looked into overturning the pardon, and House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., has launched an investigation.

The strange case started with the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act of 1973, which established a system of price controls on crude oil produced in or imported to the United States. In 1980 and '81, the Energy Department classified oil that came from wells that produce 10 barrels a day or less as "stripper" oil and exempted it from the price caps.

According to his 1983 indictment, Rich saw this regulation as a potential gold mine, setting up a scam to have his company's oil relabeled "stripper" oil by a reseller, and thus seemingly exempted from the price controls.

To hide this activity and the illegal profits it produced, says Sandy Weinberg, the lead prosecutor in the case, Rich allegedly had a reseller claim Rich's profits were really its own and then hand over the money through sham transactions to companies Rich controlled in Panama.

This led the government to charge Rich and his partner Pincus Green with fraud and the evasion of $42 million in taxes.

On top of that, Weinberg alleges, Rich bought crude oil from the Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran while Iran was holding U.S. citizens hostage. This was in direct violation of a U.S. trade embargo -- and, in effect, helped to arm the Iranians by giving them needed cash.

Bring all of these activities together into a concerted effort to make illegal profits, and you've got what the prosecutor called racketeering -- violating federal criminal statutes designed for busting the Mafia.

Rich's attorneys -- at the time of the investigation as well as in the consideration of the pardon -- uttered cries of "over-prosecution." They hoped an agreement could be reached. Rich's and Green's attorney, Edward Bennett Williams, met with Weinberg a few times in 1983 to offer a deal: The companies would pay $100 million if all charges were dropped.

This was on top of the $50,000 per day that Marc Rich was paying in contempt-of-court fines for not turning over certain documents. Every Friday, Rich paid $200,000, and every Monday, $150,000. The payments eventually equaled $21 million.

Rich started paying the fines only after the feds, following an anonymous tip, "reeled in a plane on the runway at JFK" (Weinberg's words) and found it was carrying a paralegal from a New York law firm who had checked on board with two steamer trunks full of subpoenaed documents.

The plane was on its way to Europe.

Weinberg recounts a June 1983 meeting with Williams, in which Williams put his feet up on the prosecutor's desk and made the pitch. In Weinberg's view, and in the view of his boss, then-U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani, Rich and Green deserved nothing short of jail time. If wealthy criminals could buy their way out of their misdeeds, the prosecutors felt, then they were effectively above the law.

Rich and Green, according to a few sources, were in Europe at the time of the negotiation. When Weinberg told Bennett, "No deal," the two businessmen decided not to come back. Three months later, a federal grand jury handed down an indictment for fraud, tax evasion and trading with the enemy.

The resellers who were the main co-conspirators in the "stripper oil" fraud were convicted and served 12 months in jail. Rich's companies pleaded guilty to 78 counts and paid over $150 million, while Rich and Green remained fugitives. Attempts at extradition failed.

That did not mean that they could not profit off the U.S. government. As then-Rep. Bob Wise, D-W.Va, unearthed in hearings in the early 1990s, while Rich was a fugitive the U.S. mint was contracting to buy metal from one of his companies.

Between fiscal years 1989 and 1992, the mint issued at least 21 separate contracts for nickel, zinc and copper to the company. Also, in 1988, the Defense Logistics Agency lifted its bar on contracting with the same company.

Wise characterized the scandal of dealing with the fugitive Rich this way: "I wonder how the average American taxpayer feels when they go to the shopping center and they reach into their pockets to pull out some change, some coins to pay the sales tax, which they are obligated to pay. And as they pull out that change and put those coins on the desk, they find that the person who provided the metal to the mint and is benefiting is accused of evading the very taxes that the citizen is paying. I don't think that sits very well with the American taxpayer."

But President Clinton completely ignored standard procedures in finally pardoning Rich. His action bypassed the Justice Department and blindsided Mary Jo White, the U.S. attorney who serves in the district formerly presided over by Giuliani.

Various lawyers had tried to get White to accept a plea-bargain from Rich for years. One of these lawyers, according to the New Yorker, was Lewis Libby, now chief of staff to Vice President Cheney. (Cheney's office did not return calls on the matter.)

But when Jack Quinn, Clinton's former White House counsel, took Rich as a client, things changed. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, the Anti-Defamation League and, of course, mega-fundraiser Denise Rich all submitted letters directly to Clinton, through Quinn, requesting a pardon.

Burton and Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., now intend to investigate how the pardon came about. Did Clinton do it out of the kindness of his heart, or was there another consideration?

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