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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




Total votes: 25
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Meg...when you watch the debate on tape, have a shot every time McCain says "my friends" and Obama says "um" or "uh".

That will make you quickly forget everything!

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SweetVirginia wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:47am:
Meg...when you watch the debate on tape, have a shot every time McCain says "my friends" and Obama says "um" or "uh".

That will make you quickly forget everything!

Have a great time at Lucinda.


Thanks, SV

Oh, I can't drink alone..

Come over this weekend and drink with me!!! Let's go get drunk
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Meg--why don't YOU come to NY to see Oasis and Ryan Adams? (12/17)

Sort of like a b-day party.....
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SweetVirginia wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:53am:
Meg--why don't YOU come to NY to see Oasis and Ryan Adams? (12/17)

Sort of like a b-day party.....


Oh dear..

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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:43am:
Riffy

I'll look forward to meeting you at Stout's or wherever the next Summit is.  But I will not speak politics with you, that is a promise!  Wink

And this is the LAST time I speak my peace.  I have already voted, so my civic duty is done. Tonite, I will go see Lucinda Williams(oh I'll tape the debate), instead of sitting through 2 hours of  the same old campaign rhetoric getting spouted off once again.

We have 2 candidates, neither of them win the Meggy Seal of Approval.

One hand we have a war hero, a nice guy but with a 15 watt lightbulb in his brain, who pretty much holds YOUR philosophy.  He ain't so bad in that folksy way but even he will not be able to deal with the Congress that will "god forbid" be spending money they don't have.

Other hand, we have a fresh very intelligent but inexperienced, highly motivated, and very caring man.  Oh yes he CARES about the poor, the unemployed, and his country.  No amount of your character assassinations can make the American who sees him in action doubt that.  Yes he sometimes looks pompous. Thing is Riffy, I see this "terrorist sympathizer" as highly capable of mediating and leading the Congress.  He will surround himself with INTELLIGENT cabinet members, not just good old boys.  And believe it or not, I think he will once again make this country respectable in the eyes of the World. So given my less than stellar choices this year, Obama gets my vote.  

Footnote:  This was a highly simplistic, short version as I can't be bothered to write more.  The real thing we Americans should be asking ourselves, is why do we put up with such seedy politicians running our government?  Why aren't capable people going into politics, or do they start out that way and get bought off?

Lefty? Righty?..Who the fuck cares anymore?  After all the government is buying up our banks and businesses.  Like P.  I am more concerned about the people who try to live productive lives in this country and who will be "looked over" if we continue the same Republican(conservative) policies of the past.

I don't want a "Maverick"

I want a responsible LEADER.

Carry on ad nauseum.  I have already voted as an  IDIOT Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?



is it two weeks out yet? That's when I get to vote too... I'm voting as an idiot as well. First time I will actually think my vote on the national level may count, since TX has been red for so long... It was easy in Jersey and California to vote for a Democrat, so I never did... I always voted libertarian or Green...
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Meg--why don't YOU come to NY to see Oasis and Ryan Adams? (12/17)

Sort of like a b-day party.....


Oh man, that should be awesome... Despite all my musical tastes, probably surprises people how much I like both Oasis and The Cardinals!!! A dream come true to see a show like that with Meggy and SV (or any ROCC).
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 10:30am:
"I want a responsible LEADER."

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Would a fearless one do?
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This op-ed piece from the Wall Street Journal takes the guts out of the Bill Ayers argument.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 2:11pm:
This op-ed piece from the Wall Street Journal takes the guts out of the Bill Ayers argument.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html



ROTFLMOAO!!! Thomas Frank! Yeah alright. Thomas Frank is gonna stand by a man that to this very day refuses to apologize for the bombings that his organization was responsible for. Three people died because of this man's terrorist group. That's three sons. Three fathers. Three husbands. All dead because of William Ayers and he still says that his group should have done more!! Fuck William Ayers! Fuck anyone that thinks like him, and fuck anyone that would sit on a board and get mentored by him. In other words, Fuck Barrack Hussein Obama!!!!!


"I'm guilty as sin and free as a bird. Only in America!"-William Ayers upon his acquittal. He was only acquitted because wire tap evidence was deemed inadmissible.

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon."-William Ayers 9/11/01

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."-William Ayers 9/11/01


Thomas Frank is a absolute fool!

Here's the real William Ayers. From the NYT no less. From 9/11/01 in fact!


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B6...


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Riffhard wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 2:47pm:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 2:11pm:
This op-ed piece from the Wall Street Journal takes the guts out of the Bill Ayers argument.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html



ROTFLMOAO!!! Thomas Frank! Yeah alright. Thomas Frank is gonna stand by a man that to this very day refuses to apologize for the bombings that his organization was responsible for. Three people died because of this man's terrorist group. That's three sons. Three fathers. Three husbands. All dead because of William Ayers and he still says that his group should have done more!! Fuck William Ayers! Fuck anyone that thinks like him, and fuck anyone that would sit on a board and get mentored by him. In other words, Fuck Barrack Hussein Obama!!!!!


"I'm guilty as sin and free as a bird. Only in America!"-William Ayers upon his acquittal. He was only acquitted because wire tap evidence was deemed inadmissible.

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon."-William Ayers 9/11/01

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."-William Ayers 9/11/01


Thomas Frank is a absolute fool!

Here's the real William Ayers. From the NYT no less. From 9/11/01 in fact!


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B6...


Riffy



Indeed.  The real William Ayers, according to the article you provide, "is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago."  Beyond that, it does not appear from the article that Ayers is directly responsible for any deaths, much less any innocent civilian deaths, which is far more than you can say for the Pentagon.  Besides, anyone involved in the liberation of Dr. Timothy Leary is a hero in my book.
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Riffy used to be a Democrat, so I don't understand why people can't change, although I think this Ayers connection is bullshit, just like I don't think Riffy was ever a liberal!
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Every Dem down in RO liked Barry a lot...
But the Riff, who lived just north of Newark, did NOT!
The Riff hated Barry! Bitched the whole ‘lection season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his buns were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Whatever the reason, his heart or dairy airrey,
He stood there on Election Eve, hating the Barry!
Staring down from his cave with a sour, Riffy frown,
At the warm lighted windows in good RO town.
For he knew every Dem in that hood, rain or shine,
Was hanging a Barry O nice campaign sign.
“And they’re wearing their buttons! And they’re having such fun!
They’re all goddamned drones. Every last f**king one!
That Barry O guy – he just gives me the scares.
He hangs out with Pfleger and Wright and Bill Ayres!”
The Riff shouted loudly, scratching his crotch,
“He’s a lousy, US hating Marxist beyatch!”
And the Riff rampaged on, but he didn’t understand
The reasons why Barry’ll soon lead this land.
We’ve had 8 years of hell and are now in recession
That’s turned out so bad it could be a depression.
Retirements crashed, the price of gas soaring,
Countries all round the world the US are abhorring,
And worstest of all, a failed war in Iraq
That Bush went and launched about four or five years back.
You may not like Barry, you may find him adverse,
But after 8 years of W, it can’t get much worse!

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Pretentious Poet wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
Every Dem down in RO liked Barry a lot...
But the Riff, who lived just north of Newark, did NOT!
The Riff hated Barry! Bitched the whole ‘lection season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his buns were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Whatever the reason, his heart or dairy airrey,
He stood there on Election Eve, hating the Barry!
Staring down from his cave with a sour, Riffy frown,
At the warm lighted windows in good RO town.
For he knew every Dem in that hood, rain or shine,
Was hanging a Barry O nice campaign sign.
“And they’re wearing their buttons! And they’re having such fun!
They’re all goddamned drones. Every last f**king one!
That Barry O guy – he just gives me the scares.
He hangs out with Pfleger and Wright and Bill Ayres!”
The Riff shouted loudly, scratching his crotch,
“He’s a lousy, US hating Marxist beyatch!”
And the Riff rampaged on, but he didn’t understand
The reasons why Barry’ll soon lead this land.
We’ve had 8 years of hell and are now in recession
That’s turned out so bad it could be a depression.
Retirements crashed, the price of gas soaring,
Countries all round the world the US are abhorring,
And worstest of all, a failed war in Iraq
That Bush went and launched about four or five years back.
You may not like Barry, you may find him adverse,
But after 8 years of W, it can’t get much worse!



Ding motherfuckin' DING!!!
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Pretentious Poet wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
Every Dem down in RO liked Barry a lot...
But the Riff, who lived just north of Newark, did NOT!
The Riff hated Barry! Bitched the whole ‘lection season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his buns were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Whatever the reason, his heart or dairy airrey,
He stood there on Election Eve, hating the Barry!
Staring down from his cave with a sour, Riffy frown,
At the warm lighted windows in good RO town.
For he knew every Dem in that hood, rain or shine,
Was hanging a Barry O nice campaign sign.
“And they’re wearing their buttons! And they’re having such fun!
They’re all goddamned drones. Every last f**king one!
That Barry O guy – he just gives me the scares.
He hangs out with Pfleger and Wright and Bill Ayres!”
The Riff shouted loudly, scratching his crotch,
“He’s a lousy, US hating Marxist beyatch!”
And the Riff rampaged on, but he didn’t understand
The reasons why Barry’ll soon lead this land.
We’ve had 8 years of hell and are now in recession
That’s turned out so bad it could be a depression.
Retirements crashed, the price of gas soaring,
Countries all round the world the US are abhorring,
And worstest of all, a failed war in Iraq
That Bush went and launched about four or five years back.
You may not like Barry, you may find him adverse,
But after 8 years of W, it can’t get much worse!



Fucking PRICELESS!
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Reply #217 - Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:49pm
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Pretentious Poet wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
Every Dem down in RO liked Barry a lot...
But the Riff, who lived just north of Newark, did NOT!
The Riff hated Barry! Bitched the whole ‘lection season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his buns were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Whatever the reason, his heart or dairy airrey,
He stood there on Election Eve, hating the Barry!
Staring down from his cave with a sour, Riffy frown,
At the warm lighted windows in good RO town.
For he knew every Dem in that hood, rain or shine,
Was hanging a Barry O nice campaign sign.
“And they’re wearing their buttons! And they’re having such fun!
They’re all goddamned drones. Every last f**king one!
That Barry O guy – he just gives me the scares.
He hangs out with Pfleger and Wright and Bill Ayres!”
The Riff shouted loudly, scratching his crotch,
“He’s a lousy, US hating Marxist beyatch!”
And the Riff rampaged on, but he didn’t understand
The reasons why Barry’ll soon lead this land.
We’ve had 8 years of hell and are now in recession
That’s turned out so bad it could be a depression.
Retirements crashed, the price of gas soaring,
Countries all round the world the US are abhorring,
And worstest of all, a failed war in Iraq
That Bush went and launched about four or five years back.
You may not like Barry, you may find him adverse,
But after 8 years of W, it can’t get much worse!


Well done.
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Reply #218 - Oct 15th, 2008 at 6:00pm
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Pretentious Poet wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
Every Dem down in RO liked Barry a lot...
But the Riff, who lived just north of Newark, did NOT!
The Riff hated Barry! Bitched the whole ‘lection season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his buns were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Whatever the reason, his heart or dairy airrey,
He stood there on Election Eve, hating the Barry!
Staring down from his cave with a sour, Riffy frown,
At the warm lighted windows in good RO town.
For he knew every Dem in that hood, rain or shine,
Was hanging a Barry O nice campaign sign.
“And they’re wearing their buttons! And they’re having such fun!
They’re all goddamned drones. Every last f**king one!
That Barry O guy – he just gives me the scares.
He hangs out with Pfleger and Wright and Bill Ayres!”
The Riff shouted loudly, scratching his crotch,
“He’s a lousy, US hating Marxist beyatch!”
And the Riff rampaged on, but he didn’t understand
The reasons why Barry’ll soon lead this land.
We’ve had 8 years of hell and are now in recession
That’s turned out so bad it could be a depression.
Retirements crashed, the price of gas soaring,
Countries all round the world the US are abhorring,
And worstest of all, a failed war in Iraq
That Bush went and launched about four or five years back.
You may not like Barry, you may find him adverse,
But after 8 years of W, it can’t get much worse!



dude needs to shrink his avatar.

freakin' idiot.
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I apologize for not continuing with the commerative Bush Geek special.  I've been at trial for two freakin' weeks.  I really hope to be acquitted.

Here it is so far:

Bush Geek List to Date (for summaries, please see respective posts)
1.  Trying to hire United Arab Emirates as American security force.
2.  Fleeing west in wake of 9/11.  Blaming secret service for itinerary.
3.  Glaring (and possibly gay) inconsistencies and contradictions with respect to usage of "Dubya" and "Bubba."
4.  Referring to his Neo-Socialism: "The government is the only institution patient enough to buy these assets at their current low prices and hold them until their prices return to normal."

I should have 3 or 4 more undeniable acts of massive stupidity by the end of the week, depending how this goddam fucking trial goes.  Goddam fuckers.
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Will Dan Akroyd return to SNL to play "Joe The Plumber"?
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McCain bitch slaps Obama "Sen Obama, I'm not President Bush.  If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run for President four years ago."  Take that Chrome Dome Carville!
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I have it on good authority that "Krauthammer" is Ahhhnuld's Secret Service code name.
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About time McCain has a clear victory! I won't be around much until around Halloween but here's something worth reading before that Empty Suit finishes measuring the drapes...

With an African-American running for president this year, there has been a lot of chatter about the "Bradley effect," allowing the media to wail about institutional racism in America.

Named after Tom Bradley, who lost his election for California governor in 1982 despite a substantial lead in the polls, the Bradley effect says that black candidates will poll much stronger than the actual election results.

First of all, if true, this is the opposite of racism: It is fear of being accused of racism. For most Americans, there is nothing more terrifying than the prospect of being called a racist. It's scarier than flood or famine, terrorist attacks or flesh-eating bacteria. To some, it's even scarier than "food insecurity."

Political correctness has taught people to lie to pollsters rather than be forced to explain why they're not voting for the African-American.

This is how two typical voters might answer a pollster's question: "Whom do you support for president?"

Average Obama voter: "Obama." (Name of average Obama voter: "Mickey Mouse.")

Average McCain voter: "I'm voting for McCain, but I swear it's just about the issues. It's not because Obama's black. If Barack Obama were a little more moderate -- hey, I'd vote for Colin Powell. But my convictions force me to vote for the candidate who just happens to be white. Say, do you know where I can get Patti LaBelle tickets?"

In addition to the social pressure to constantly prove you're not a racist, apparently there is massive social pressure to prove you're not a Republican. No one is lying about voting for McCain just to sound cool.

Reviewing the polls printed in The New York Times and The Washington Post in the last month of every presidential election since 1976, I found the polls were never wrong in a friendly way to Republicans. When the polls were wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat, usually by about 6 to 10 points.

In 1976, Jimmy Carter narrowly beat Gerald Ford 50.1 percent to 48 percent. And yet, on Sept. 1, Carter led Ford by 15 points. Just weeks before the election, on Oct. 16, 1976, Carter led Ford in the Gallup Poll by 6 percentage points -- down from his 33-point Gallup Poll lead in August.

Reading newspaper coverage of presidential elections in 1980 and 1984, I found myself paralyzed by the fear that Reagan was going to lose.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan beat Carter by nearly 10 points, 51 percent to 41 percent. In a Gallup Poll released days before the election on Oct. 27, it was Carter who led Reagan 45 percent to 42 percent.

In 1984, Reagan walloped Walter Mondale 58.8 percent to 40 percent, -- the largest electoral landslide in U.S. history. But on Oct. 15, The New York Daily News published a poll showing Mondale with only a 4-point deficit to Reagan, 45 percent to 41 percent. A Harris Poll about the same time showed Reagan with only a 9-point lead. The Oct. 19 New York Times/CBS News Poll had Mr. Reagan ahead of Mondale by 13 points. All these polls underestimated Reagan's actual margin of victory by 6 to 15 points.

In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by a whopping 53.4 percent to 45.6 percent. A New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 5 had Bush leading the Greek homunculus by a statistically insignificant 2 points -- 45 percent to 43 percent. (For the kids out there: Before it became a clearinghouse for anti-Bush conspiracy theories, CBS News was considered a credible journalistic entity.)

A week later -- or one tank ride later, depending on who's telling the story -- on Oct. 13, Bush was leading Dukakis in The New York Times Poll by a mere 5 points.

Admittedly, a 3- to 6-point error is not as crazily wrong as the 6- to 15-point error in 1984. But it's striking that even small "margin of error" mistakes never seem to benefit Republicans.

In 1992, Bill Clinton beat the first President Bush 43 percent to 37.7 percent. (Ross Perot got 18.9 percent of Bush's voters that year.) On Oct. 18, a Newsweek Poll had Clinton winning 46 percent to 31 percent, and a CBS News Poll showed Clinton winning 47 percent to 35 percent.

So in 1992, the polls had Clinton 12 to 15 points ahead, but he won by only 5.3 points.

In 1996, Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole 49 percent to 40 percent. And yet on Oct. 22, 1996, The New York Times/CBS News Poll showed Clinton leading by a massive 22 points, 55 percent to 33 percent.

In 2000, which I seem to recall as being fairly close, the October polls accurately described the election as a virtual tie, with either Bush or Al Gore 1 or 2 points ahead in various polls. But in one of the latest polls to give either candidate a clear advantage, The New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 3, 2000, showed Gore winning by 45 percent to 39 percent.

In the last presidential election the polls were surprisingly accurate -- not including the massively inaccurate Election Day exit poll. In the end, Bush beat John Kerry 50.7 percent to 48.3 percent in 2004. Most of the October polls showed the candidates in a dead-heat, with Bush 1 to 3 points ahead. So either pollsters got a whole lot better starting in 2004, or Democrats stole more votes in that election than we even realized.
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Re: Krauthammer Says Obama "Likely" to be Presiden
Reply #224 - Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:51pm
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SweetVirginia wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:47am:
Meg...when you watch the debate on tape, have a shot every time McCain says "my friends" and Obama says "um" or "uh".

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Just don't take a drink every time McCain blinks.  You'll drown.
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