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Question: Which is Joshie's favorite Beatles song?

Revolution 9:15    
  4 (12.9%)
You Really Got a Hold on Deuteronome    
  1 (3.2%)
You've Got to Hide Your Love Yahweh    
  6 (19.4%)
Nowhere Menorah    
  5 (16.1%)
You're Going to Lose that Goy-l    
  14 (45.2%)
Israel Be Back    
  1 (3.2%)
Esau Her Standing There    
  0 (0.0%)




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Joey wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 8:48am:
" Jews Without Money
an editorial by Yonassan Gershom  "



" A mother and child at the battered women's shelter; a retarded citizen in a group home; a street musician on Nicollet Mall; and a recovering alcoholic in the soup line.... what do they all have in common?

They are all Jews -- Jews without money.

For many of these people, life is a double burden. Not only must they struggle with poverty, they are also faced daily with insensitive remarks by non-Jews who believe that"'all Jews are rich" and that poor Jews must be "rare exceptions."

One single mother I know was told by neighbors in her apartment building, "You may be poor now, but you'll get rich, because Jews have a natural talent for making money." Natural talent? Which genes control prosperity? Are they on the same chromosomes that make Jews "smarter"? And just how does the retarded Jewish citizen cope with that stereotype?

There are probably no accurate statistics on the number of poor Jews in the Twin Cities. The welfare department does not ask about religion, and ethnically we are lumped in with "whites." But because I always wear a skullcap and am therefore visibly Jewish, people walk up to me on the sidewalk, at the bus stop, or in the park. Many stop to chat with me as I work in my garden. And while this unofficial street ministry may not be the most scientific way to collect data, it does enable me to hear stories that never reach the ears of sociologists. Perhaps the very informality of a park bench allows for a kind of personal sharing that cannot happen in a caseworker's office.

Many poor Jews are, quite frankly, afraid to admit that they are Jewish, for fear of being harassed or ridiculed. This is especially true in group homes, where acceptance by the other residents can make or break one's participation in the program. Paranoid? Perhaps. But I know the feeling, because I myself have had some unsettling encounters with stereotypes.

For example, there was the bill collector who simply refused to believe that I was unemployed and had no cash on hand. He had apparently been informed that I was a rabbi, which, to him, meant that I must be drawing a fat salary from some suburban synagogue. (My ministry is mostly volunteer, supported over the years by a string of secular jobs.) At one point, this obnoxious man actually threatened to reveal my debts to my "congregation." My wife and I joked about that one for months, as we pictured this guy in a three- piece suit, parading down Franklin Avenue with a sign proclaiming that Rabbi Gershom owed fifty dollars to the phone company!

Eventually I did find employment, which brought with it another set of Jewish stereotypes, beginning with the co-workers who openly wondered why a Jew would want such a low-paying job. (We get hungry, like everyone else.) Almost everyone told me stories about someone they knew who had worked for some rich Jew somewhere, oblivious to the fact that people who can afford to hire servants are, by definition, affluent -- regardless or race, religion, or national origin.

To be a poor Jew is to be invisible; you do not become a statistic until you strike it rich. For ten years I lived in and around the Phillips neighborhood as a tenant, moving every couple years when the landlord raised the rent. As such, I was an anonymous part of the urban population. But when my wife and I finally managed to become home owners, we were miraculously transformed overnight into "Jewish Yuppies." All we had done was buy the same house we were renting, to avoid moving again. As Jews, we were seen as Yuppies; for any other minority, we would be "grassroots people gaining control of our living space." [Update: in 1988 we lost that house, due to long-term illness.]

By now you are probably thinking, "He's oversensitive. Those Jews are always complaining about something. Next thing you know, he'll be screaming about antisemitism."

WRONG. Very little, if any, of this is overtly antisemitic. Mostly it is a matter of insensitivity, ignorance, and a lack of exposure to different kinds of Jews. Sometimes it is a case of tunnel vision, as when visitors to Brooklyn notice the Hasidic diamond dealers who fit the "rich Jew" stereotype, but are oblivious to the Hassidic cab drivers, hot dog vendors, factory workers, panhandlers and street musicians on the same block. Until recently [mid-1980's] the New York City welfare department was also unaware of thousands of poor Jewish senior citizens who could not read English, and were therefore unable to apply for help. Now, thankfully, the pamphlets have been translated into Yiddish.

Sometimes even well-intentioned efforts at education may go astray. When Sesame Street, that beloved inner-city block which prides itself on diversity, decided at long last to introduce a Jewish character, who did it turn out to be? Mr. Hooper, the shopkeeper, who came out of the closet by serving everyone BAGELS! This wasn't antisemitic, just unimaginative. Now if Cookie Monster had been Jewish, he could have agonized over having to give up leavened cookies for Passover. Or perhaps Big Bird could have invited everyone to a Hanukkah party, or maybe Oscar the Grouch could have explained why he doesn't have a mezzuzah (*see below) on his trash can. The possibilities are endless, once you stop seeing Jews as a class of merchants and bankers.

Jews without money. The phrase sounds strange to American ears, like a fish out of water. Yet for every Jewish millionaire, there are countless anonymous Jews who struggle to make ends meet like everyone else. We are ordinary human beings, with all kinds of personalities, occupations and lifestyles. Many of us live right here in the inner city, supported by pay checks, welfare checks, unemployment checks, and social security checks. We are your neighbors.



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*Mezuzzah (meh-ZOOZ-uh): a little parchment scoll with Bible verses hand-written in Hebrew, that is enclosed in a decorative case and affixed to the doorposts of Jewish homes. A trash can has no doorpost, so it doesn't need a mezuzzah.  "

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Joshy, you missed some over-the-top Holocaust revival stuff on CSI:NY last night. The klezmer music & translations of yiddish words that any real NYer would know...
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" Joshy, you missed some over-the-top Holocaust revival stuff on CSI:NY last night. The klezmer music & translations of yiddish words that any real NYer would know... "

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" Joshy, you missed some over-the-top Holocaust revival stuff on CSI:NY last night. The klezmer music & translations of yiddish words that any real NYer would know... "

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i couldnt make up my mind so i decided to propose to both of them
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" jb you have a pm "


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"i couldnt make up my mind so i decided to propose to both of them"



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Joey, I could squirt thru a tennis racket and not touch a string.
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Reply #1514 - May 4th, 2009 at 3:24pm
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Nobody REALLY loves the Beatles at this point, do they?
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No, seriously dawg, you cain't be a Beatduls fan anymore, can you?
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Ironically, I just got off one of those!
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" May 5, 2009 -- AZ Central

Dylan wants to team up with McCartney

Bob Dylan says he'd like to write with Paul McCartney, which we're pretty sure would constitute the most historic team-up in the history of rock and roll.

And you could argue that it would have been a bigger deal in 1966, in which case you'd be right, but that can't happen.

This could.

Dylan dropped the invitation in the latest Rolling Stone (the one with Dylan on the cover).

"That'd be exciting," he says, "to do something with Paul! But, ya know, your paths have to cross for something like that to make sense."

Is someone on this yet?

McCartney's people?

Dylan's people?

Ringo?

This could be brilliant.

They've both been releasing surprisingly relevant music lately and they'd both be bringing something to the table. Dylan definitely has that edge McCartney needs in a collaborator (John Lennon and Elvis Costello being the best of the bunch) and any track McCartney touches would be Dylan's most melodic work in years. In fact, if there's a reason not to do this, I can't think of one. And now that Ringo's drumming on the next McCartney album anyway, what better time to bring in Dylan as a writing partner, even for a song or two? "




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Coldplay accused of plagiarism by Yusuf Islam


Cat fight ... Coldplay wait to be picked out of a police lineup by Yusuf Islam. Photograph: Lluis Gene/AFP/Getty Images

Yusuf Islam has accused Coldplay of copying one of his 26-year-old compositions for their Grammy award-winning song, Viva La Vida. Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens, claims that Coldplay's worldwide hit borrows liberally from his 1973 track, Foreigner Suite.

Islam, however, is not the first to accuse the band of plagiarism. American electric guitar nerd Joe Satriani is already suing the British band, claiming that the melody to Viva La Vida is stolen from If I Could Fly, an instrumental track he recorded in 2004.

"There's been this argument about Coldplay stealing this melody from Joe Satriani," Islam told the Sun. "But, if you listen to it, it's mine! It's the Foreigner Suite. It is!"

Whereas Viva La Vida is bombastic arena-pop and If I Could Fly is noodly guitar soloing, Foreigner Suite is something even worse – an 18-minute folk-jazz opus. Though the strains at 5:20 are indeed reminiscent of Coldplay's song, they are short-lived – and take place over a vaguely Latin beat, played with, er, woodblocks.

Luckily for Coldplay, peace-minded Islam is not – for the moment – as litigious as Satriani. The singer-songwriter seems content to complain to the tabloids and hasn't announced any plans to take legal action. Islam even borrowed one of Coldplay's production team, mixer Michael H Brauer, to work on his new album. "[Michael] is brilliant," Islam said. "He won a Grammy for [Coldplay's] record."

On the other hand, it may just be a matter of time. Islam has a history of challenging infringements on his copyright, most recently against the Flaming Lips. After noting similarities between their 2003 song, Fight Test, and his 1970 hit Father and Son, the two parties agreed to a royalty split.

Then again, there is another lawsuit possibility: Islam could always sue Satriani.
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