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Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 8:04am

I just got done watching woodstock and am curious why mick & company didn't play the festival? Were they even asked? Wickipedia does list a number of acts that didn't play for various reasons ( link attatched ) but doesn't list the stones on it. It's interesting that "The Jeff Beck Group" was scheduled to play but they broke up shortly before the festival. Anyway it was a great movie to watch i would recommend it to anyone.................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_Festival

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Reply #1 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 8:29am

cabledogg2 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 8:04am:

I just got done watching woodstock and am curious why mick & company didn't play the festival? Were they even asked? Wickipedia does list a number of acts that didn't play for various reasons ( link attatched ) but doesn't list the stones on it. It's interesting that "The Jeff Beck Group" was scheduled to play but they broke up shortly before the festival. Anyway it was a great movie to watch i would recommend it to anyone.................
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_Festival

I think you would have to really study the Astrological charts at the the time to get any answers. And then "answers" would be iffy.

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Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 10:19am

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 10:08am:

I think the answer is they wouldnt play for free like the other bands and didnt want to share the spotlight or the timing wasnt right.In those days they actually spent considerable time making records.

The bands did get paid.........

http://www.woodstock69.com/woodstock_stats.htm

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Reply #5 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 10:37am

I't's really not all it was cracked up to be. Woodstock was a mess, logistical and performance wise. Everything rane late, the weather sucked and the drugs made for horrible conditions that people tolerated, and somehow after acted like didn't exist. It was less violent than most festivals, but not w/o problems. It wasn't even meant to be free in the begining, something people forget, and the bands were getting paid, or supposed to be.
I wouldn't have gone. Just like todays hipsters and phonies, most of the crowd was just there to be seen. The real scene, was then, and is now, the small clubs, street corners ect...
The Who rocked pretty hard, and a few others gave great performances, if you were lucky to be within 100 yards of the stage and speakers.

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glencar Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #6 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 3:32pm awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it?
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MaineMotels Ex Member Gender:	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #7 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 5:42pm "I't's really not all it was cracked up to be." Powder Ridge was worse.....so they say.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 5:51pm You meant Ruby Ridge, no?
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KMC Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 198 Bayonne, NJ Gender:	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #9 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 1:57pm I'm just guessing, but the acts for Woodstock were established in the spring of 1969 and at that time the Stones were still dealing with Brian Jones' status and possible legal problems in getting into the states. They simply weren't ready to commit to playing at that time.
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fireontheplatter Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #10 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 3:11pm i doubt the promoters expected the turnout it got. i heard there was lack of water and food. the movie is great. the ny state truway is closed man.
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fireontheplatter Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #11 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 3:13pm Quote: awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it? i don't think its possible to compare the to movies.
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Holden Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,317 Tampa Bay Gender:	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #12 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 3:20pm Quote: awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it? I think both movies are boring as hell, except for the musical performances of course.
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fireontheplatter Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #13 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 3:31pm Holden wrote on Aug 24^th, 2008 at 3:20pm: Quote: awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it? I think both movies are boring as hell, except for the musical performances of course. how could you not like the part where keith is lying behind some equiptment tripping balls and listening to wild horses.
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Reply #14 - Aug 24^th, 2008 at 6:17pm

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awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it?

I think both movies are boring as hell, except for the musical performances of course.

how could you not like the part where keith is lying behind some equiptment tripping balls and listening to wild horses.

Are you fucking serious?

I dunno. I mean I enjoy watching clips of it, but as a whole I just find it too long and boring. I feel that way about almost all documentaries, actually.

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Reply #15 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 1:17am

They were not asked to perform at Woodstock. I am kind of doubting they would of played there even if they were asked or could of made it. It just wasn't them (needless to say...).

Mick said in 94 when asked if they were possibly going to play at Woodstock II "we weren't asked to play at the first and were not going to the second".

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Reply #16 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 7:04am

cabledogg2 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2008 at 8:04am:

I just got done watching woodstock and am curious why mick & company didn't play the festival?

Surely Jagger would still have been in Australia filming 'Ned Kelly' at the time?

I think he eventually flew out on July 6th (the day after Hyde Park), having caused delays due to previous postponements.

Woodstock took place August 15-18. I doubt that Ned Kelly would have been finished by then, or if it had have been, it wouldnt have given them much time to prepare for it.

I think Ian is right. I'm unaware that they were even formally asked.

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Reply #17 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 7:12am

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awesome film but not as good as Gimme Shelter, is it?

i don't think its possible to compare the to movies.

Interesting stuff Ronnie!

Quite the reverse. Gimme Shelter was pretty much conceived as a competition to Woodstock and there was great urgency to get it released first. That, plus the fact that the Altamont festival was designed with the movie in mind and was portrayed as a west coast version of Woodstock.

The two movies dovetail perfectly as flip sides of the whole 'hippie dream'

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Reply #19 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 10:51am

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i doubt the promoters expected the turnout it got.

Thats quite evident in the film. The concert wasnt free, and they put 200,000 tickets on sale (you could buy in advance or 'on site'). Only when it became obvious that the number of attendees was going to be more than double what they had estimated did the festival become 'free'

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Reply #20 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 11:02am

Gazza wrote on Aug 26^th, 2008 at 10:51am:

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i doubt the promoters expected the turnout it got.

Thats quite evident in the film. The concert wasnt free, and they put 200,000 tickets on sale (you could buy in advance or 'on site'). Only when it became obvious that the number of attendees was going to be more than double what they had estimated did the festival become 'free'

Crowd control tecnology was in its infancy back then. Nowadays we don't have those problems.

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corgi37 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,559 Aussie land Gender:	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #21 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 5:49am I always believed they were never asked. Jagger was asked if the Stones would play at the (i think) 25th Woodstock and he said "They didnt ask us the 1st time, so i doubt it" - or something to that effect.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Stones and Woodstock Reply #22 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 5:50pm Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Aug 26^th, 2008 at 10:24am: The whole mindset was different back then. The Rolling Stones weren't exactly out of the loop. In 1969 I was still listening to an AM transistor radio under the sheets at night. Me too!
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Reply #23 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 6:01pm

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Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Aug 26^th, 2008 at 10:24am:

The whole mindset was different back then. The Rolling Stones weren't exactly out of the loop. In 1969 I was still listening to an AM transistor radio under the sheets at night.

Me too!

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