sirmoonie wrote on Aug 20
th, 2008 at 9:28pm:
Riffhard wrote on Aug 20
th, 2008 at 6:58pm:
In the 112 year history of the modern Olympic Games not one man or woman has ever won eight gold medals in one Olympic Games. Not one! Carl Lewis had a way better Olympic career run than Bolt did back in 1984. Bolt is fast. Very very fast, but he has to date 2 gold medals. To try and dismiss the sheer magnitude of what Phelps has acheived is absurd on it's face. Then to try and play the race card with regards to the sport is just flat out stupid. Phelps has worked his ass off and has seen the rewards for all his hard work. I'd bet my last dime that Phelps' training regime is every bit as tough, if not a hell of a lot tougher, than what Bolt does. Phelps swims an average of 80 miles a week during his training periods!!!!!
Riffy
The amount of medals has been explained to you several times. It is impossible to even participate in 8 events in any other sport. Simply saying his achievement is a superior athletic achievement to Bolt's because he beat him 8 to 2 in golds is like saying SomeGuff is an Olympic-worthy poster based on his post count.
Nobody played the race card. WT flying F? The "race card' is played when a member of a minority race claims unfairness with respect to evaluation of their efforts in a particular process, e.g., employment, politics, grading, trial, even though the claimed unfairness is not present. That is the common understanding of what "playing the race card" is. Its not even close to anything I argued - complete opposite in fact.
Nobody has dismissed anything. I wouldn't even accuse you of dismissing what Bolt did, although you're coming close. I put what Phelps did in what I believe is un-hyped factual persepctive, you said it was all flat wrong, and then changed the topic into the "race card" and who trains harder. Not sure why that matters one bit, and I have no idea who trains harder. I'll bet marathon runners train harder than both Phelps and Bolt combined, but unless some marathon runner runs his event under 2:00:00, I'll stick with Bolt's achievements being by far the most impressive of the Olympics, irrespective of what the liberal media wants you to believe.
LOL!!!! You're kidding right?!?!?! YOU played the gawtdamned race card bigger 'n shit! "There aren't any black guys in swimming." That is the race card played backwards, but it's the race card all the same.
I also pointed out that Bolt could have competed in more events, but HE chose not to!! What Bolt did was very impresive, but again please explain the skill involved?! Talent for very fast runninhg, yes. He's loaded God given talent. Carl Lewis set the world record in the 100 and 200 in his day, and then for good measure he went out and took the gold in long jump and the 4x 100m relay. Bolt didn't.
Plus your argument about the amount of events that Phelps could compete in actually makes his feat that much MORE impressive!! Every single one of the swimmers COULD have competed against him. In fact many did. Yet it was Phelps who beat every single one of them and set 7 world records in the process.
Face it. You just like track and field better than you like swimming so it has made your argument biased from the start. Now had Bolt won the 100, 200, long jump, javelin, discuss, high jump, pole vault, and the 400m hurdles then your argument might have a semblance of merit, but as it stands Phelps has eight golds to Bolt's two.
Riffy