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A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties'
Jun 19^th, 2008 at 11:31pm

Y'know what? Fuck history. With a little fudging, it might have turned out better. Depends on an earlier recording session for JJF, and the willingness to abandon the prejudice against putting previous singles on LPs. But history would have thanked them:

THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES' REQUEST

Side 1

Jumpin' Jack Flash
Citadel
In another Land
Child of the Moon
We Love You

Side 2

She's a Rainbow
Dandelion
The Lantern
2000 Light Years from Home
2000 Man

And Charlie would have liked it better. really?

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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,729 Dakar Gender:	Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties' Reply #4 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 8:14am Mickboy did much the same, except for including JJF which came much later. However, the album was also marred by poor (over) production by the fledgling Glimmer Twins, as the eight-CD Satanic Sessions shows. Agree, there's a gem of an album in there amidst the murk and the poor choices for inclusion.
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Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties'
Reply #5 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 10:26am

andrews27 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2008 at 11:31pm:

Y'know what? Fuck history. With a little fudging, it might have turned out better. Depends on an earlier recording session for JJF, and the willingness to abandon the prejudice against putting previous singles on LPs. But history would have thanked them:

THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES' REQUEST

Side 1

Jumpin' Jack Flash
Citadel
In another Land
Child of the Moon
We Love You

Side 2

She's a Rainbow
Dandelion
The Lantern
2000 Light Years from Home
2000 Man

And Charlie would have liked it better. really?

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jdlaw Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 33	Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties' Reply #6 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 2:22pm That would have made a better album, I agree. However, it's not bad the way it is. I love the mellotron! Brian rocked it out. Why doesn't anybody use it anymore? It has a very unique sound.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties' Reply #7 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 4:19pm Leave it in the bins!
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glencar Ex Member	Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties' Reply #9 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 5:45pm Really, it's one of their worst efforts ever.
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Reply #10 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 5:54pm

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Really, it's one of their worst efforts ever.

Interesting stuff Ronnie!

You're kidding, right? It's better then ANY Stones album with Ron Wood on it. Hell, you could make a greatest hits album with the Stones best Ron Wood era material, and Satanic Majesties is still better. I'm not a Ronnie fan, case you couldn't tell, lol. He contributed didly squat to the band, compared to Brian and Mick Taylor.

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Reply #11 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 6:08pm

jdlaw wrote on Jun 20^th, 2008 at 5:54pm:

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Really, it's one of their worst efforts ever.

Interesting stuff Ronnie!

You're kidding, right? It's better then ANY Stones album with Ron Wood on it. Hell, you could make a greatest hits album with the Stones best Ron Wood era material, and Satanic Majesties is still better. I'm not a Ronnie fan, case you couldn't tell, lol. He contributed didly squat to the band, compared to Brian and Mick Taylor.

Oy vey! It's better than nothing. I'm not a Ronnie Basher, in case you couldn't tell. Nor am I Brian Basher but TSMR is weak at best.

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Reply #12 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 6:17pm

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jdlaw wrote on Jun 20^th, 2008 at 5:54pm:

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Really, it's one of their worst efforts ever.

Interesting stuff Ronnie!

You're kidding, right? It's better then ANY Stones album with Ron Wood on it. Hell, you could make a greatest hits album with the Stones best Ron Wood era material, and Satanic Majesties is still better. I'm not a Ronnie fan, case you couldn't tell, lol. He contributed didly squat to the band, compared to Brian and Mick Taylor.

Oy vey! It's better than nothing. I'm not a Ronnie Basher, in case you couldn't tell. Nor am I Brian Basher but TSMR is weak at best.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. IMO, 2000 Light Years, She's A Rainbow, the Citadel, plus songs from the era not on the album (We Love You, Dandelion) are better then anything the Stones have done since Taylor quit the band...times a million. IMO. I'm a big fan of Brians, and like I said earlier in the thread..a big fan of the mellotron.

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glencar Ex Member	Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties' Reply #13 - Jun 20^th, 2008 at 6:28pm I like the first 2 songs you mentioned & I agree that the singles that weren't included would have helped quite a bit but that album was made when Brian was going crazy & I think Mick & Keith just humored him. I'll have to ask IanBillen.
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Reply #15 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 7:51am

How can you include JJF when it wasnt even conceived? Dandelion would have fitted perfectly. And We love you would have replaced easily the short verision of "Sing this song all together".

I havent even got this on cd. It's mainly crap, and out dated crap at that. I've toyed with the idea of getting the ABCKO masters, but then again, i've toyed with the idea of homsexuality, suicide and being a right wing conservative too.

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Reply #16 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:09am

corgi37 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 7:51am:

How can you include JJF when it wasnt even conceived? Dandelion would have fitted perfectly. And We love you would have replaced easily the short verision of "Sing this song all together".

I havent even got this on cd. It's mainly crap, and out dated crap at that. I've toyed with the idea of getting the ABCKO masters, but then again, i've toyed with the idea of homsexuality, suicide and being a right wing conservative too.

Out dated compared to what? Current music? I'll take "out dated" 1960's music over the shize they call music these days 101% of the time.

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Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:29am

I think there is a great album in there.... I have always loved it..... a better choice of tracks would have done the trick..... for a punchier lineup this is what I have burned and listen too... more of an up vibe to it.... but I only include nine tracks. 'Side 2' would have been complete for me with another spacey number in the third slot. If only the vaults would open...

We love you
Dandelion
Citadel
2000 man
Child of the moon

She's a rainbow
The Lantern
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Gomper
2000 light years

exotic sounds, intersting modes, great rhythms, well recorded.... I think their brilliance shines through. Brian glows on the mellotron. The dude added some superb touches.

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Reply #18 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:51am

jdlaw wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:09am:

corgi37 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 7:51am:

How can you include JJF when it wasnt even conceived? Dandelion would have fitted perfectly. And We love you would have replaced easily the short verision of "Sing this song all together".

I havent even got this on cd. It's mainly crap, and out dated crap at that. I've toyed with the idea of getting the ABCKO masters, but then again, i've toyed with the idea of homsexuality, suicide and being a right wing conservative too.

Out dated compared to what? Current music? I'll take "out dated" 1960's music over the shize they call music these days 101% of the time.

Current music is a mess. I meant what the Stones did later but we've already agreed to disagree on the merits of Mr. Wood.

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Re: A better, bangin' Satanic Majesties'
Reply #20 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 4:13pm

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I like the first 2 songs you mentioned & I agree that the singles that weren't included would have helped quite a bit but that album was made when Brian was going crazy & I think Mick & Keith just humored him. I'll have to ask IanBillen.

Hey, whoa. Brian was the one who didn't want to go in the "psychedelic" direction in the first place! He felt it was "not them" and too far from their blues roots. Having said that, though, I think Brian stepped up to the plate and added the instruments/sounds that would make those songs work. I do like the album. It's a different sounding Stones, but Stones none-the-less.

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Reply #21 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 10:23pm

andrews27 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2008 at 11:31pm:

Y'know what? Fuck history. With a little fudging, it might have turned out better. Depends on an earlier recording session for JJF, and the willingness to abandon the prejudice against putting previous singles on LPs. But history would have thanked them:

THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES' REQUEST

Side 1

Jumpin' Jack Flash
Citadel
In another Land
Child of the Moon
We Love You

Side 2

She's a Rainbow
Dandelion
The Lantern
2000 Light Years from Home
2000 Man

And Charlie would have liked it better. really?

Hey that's great. I agree, that would have been an excellent album. I never cared for most of TSMR.

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Reply #22 - Jun 22^nd, 2008 at 10:04am

jdlaw wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:09am:

Out dated compared to what? Current music? I'll take "out dated" 1960's music over the shize they call music these days 101% of the time.

joshie?

JOSHIE??? IS IT REALLY YOU???

and in disguise, even????

could you do me a favor and start a "mick T vs ronnie" thread? we need some new ideas around here!!

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Reply #23 - Jun 22^nd, 2008 at 6:26pm

Starbuck wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2008 at 10:04am:

jdlaw wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:09am:

Out dated compared to what? Current music? I'll take "out dated" 1960's music over the shize they call music these days 101% of the time.

joshie?

JOSHIE??? IS IT REALLY YOU???

and in disguise, even????

could you do me a favor and start a "mick T vs ronnie" thread? we need some new ideas around here!!

What would be the point? Anyone with ears knows Ronnie can't hold Mick Taylor's jock strap! Wow!

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