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Reply #25 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 12:05am
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Reply #26 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 12:25am
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Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 20th, 2008 at 2:22pm:
With the price of gas going sky-high this summer, I can't see a tour in the works for any major talent like the Stones.  Rumblings are McCcartney will tour later in the year, but fuel for the tour trucks will run through a great deal of money.


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The cost of gas for the tour trucks themselves will not financially affect any major tour at all. It is just a super small drop in the bucket for a tour with loads and loads of expenses from a major act such as The Stones or Mcartney.

The over-all economy and price of everything eles, including gas to the concert goer is what would hurt those tours because times are tough and less and less people will be willing to spend on the all-mighty concert ticket. Folks are more budgeted now and will go and do things like going to the movies, or renting movies and ordering pizza, versus paying $100.00-$200.00 per seat for a concert...

That is why the tours could suffer. Folks will be less likely to spend on tickets.


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Reply #27 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 8:52am
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Reply #28 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 9:09am
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Reply #29 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 5:50pm
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I'd like to see three shows for sure as it'll take me up to a half century of Stones gigs.

I saw 13 on each of the last two tours.  Those days are over, unfortunately.

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Reply #30 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 9:29am
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"   Rumblings are McCcartney will tour later in the year, but fuel for the tour trucks will run through a great deal of money.  "


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Reply #31 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:22am
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LadyJane wrote on Jun 22nd, 2008 at 9:09am:
I just want to see my Band one more time.
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If we do one of those big Chicago things & work doesn't interfere, I will be there. I wanna do LA & of course, anywhere in NY except Jints Stadium. And I think I'm scheduled to go to Europe with GTRM...
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Reply #32 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:23am
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Gazza wrote on Jun 22nd, 2008 at 5:50pm:
I'd like to see three shows for sure as it'll take me up to a half century of Stones gigs.

I saw 13 on each of the last two tours.  Those days are over, unfortunately.


I saw 2 shows before 1997. Since then I've seen 36 or so. When I told someone that I'm going to London next month, they dourly asked me, "Oh, are the Stones on tour again?"
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Reply #33 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 1:11pm
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Exclusive: Cohl, Rapino Talk Live Nation Plans

June 23, 2008 , 12:15 PM ET

Ray Waddell, Nashville

It's official: Michael Cohl has resigned as chairman of the board of Live Nation, and also vacates his post as CEO of Live Nation Artists, effective immediately. Negotiations for Cohl's resignation were finalized Friday (June 20); he will serve as a consultant to the company.

News that Cohl's exit from Live Nation was imminent was first tipped on Billboard.biz last week, and has been the source of rampant speculation in the industry. In an exclusive conference call with Billboard, Cohl and Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino outlined Cohl's exit and downplayed media reports of rancor between the two.

"One of the strengths of Michael Cohl is he's a big thinker, strategic, great with relationships, artists and big deals," Rapino says. "That's what we want him to do, we don't actually want him to get caught up in the day-to-day of running of our division and all the bureaucracy around the operational part. We want him to go out and do what he does best for us and that's what we're back to doing."

Former Live Nation chairman of the board Randall Mays will eventually reassume that position; Live Nation chairman of global music/CEO of global touring Arthur Fogel will run LNA. Cohl's consultant deal runs through 2012, and he has a non-compete clause that runs through 2016.

Asked what precipitated the move, Cohl says, "Just the moon and the stars," admitting that perhaps he took on too many duties in the dual position of running LNA and chairing Live Nation. "I've been giving people grief and making things difficult, and it was really all about I wasn't doing what I'm really good at," he says. "From my perspective it's much more about that than any of this nitty-gritty detail that anybody wants to talk about that's not relevant."

As CEO of Live Nation Artists, Cohl headed the division of the company that orchestrated the much-publicized deals with such artists as Madonna, Jay-Z, and U2. These Madonna and Jay-Z deals alone have been valued at $120 million and $150 million, respectively. Speculation has been that how Live Nation will pursue these 360 deals going forward was the root of the tension in the Live Nation board room. As CEO of Live Nation Artists, Cohl reported to Rapino.

Rapino stops short of saying there were any philosophical differences between he and Cohl regarding LNA. "We believe being in long-term, deeper relationships with artists is a great strategy, we will be 100% pursuing it," Rapino says. "There has never been a debate with Michael Cohl as to whether we should be in the Madonna business or be in long-term relationships, or be in more rights with artists."

That said, it does seem clear that Rapino and LNA will not be overly aggressive in nailing down new 360 deals. Rapino says the plan was always to sign four artists the first year. "We are close to the signing of another superstar, we're in discussions with a couple of others," he says. "Maybe we get to four in 2008 as was the plan, or maybe we get to five or six. We're happy to be in the business and we will continue to be in the 360 business."

The mood on the call was jovial, contradicting reports that the two were at major odds. "We didn't comment for a reason," on that talk, Rapino says. "We come from Canada, we always talk about how we might have some fights in the dressing room but when we go out on the ice, we're united. Michael and I have had fights since the day I met him ... and he's always challenged me to make bigger and better decisions. We don't always agree, but that was never relevant to whether we would be having dinner together for the rest of our lives and having great respect and working together."

Cohl served as chairman of the company since February, and prior to that was vice chairman since 2006. He remains one of the company's largest shareholders, though not the largest. "I've got a big whack of stock, let's put it that way," Cohl says. "I think the stock has incredible upside. I'm not selling my stock."

Cohl, known for pioneering a global touring model that taps into numerous revenue streams, has promoted every Rolling Stones tour since 1989, including A Bigger Bang in 2005-2007, the top grossing tour of all time at $558 million. Both Cohl and Rapino indicate that Cohl will produce more tours with Live Nation, possibly one next year
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In terms of this summer's touring business, Rapino says, "The world is assuming my business is going to have a tough summer because of gas prices, etc., and I can say to you we have one of the strongest summer lineups we've had in a longtime. We have most of our shows on sale and some already executed, we have not experienced one ounce of soft sales or on-site ancillary sales effecting our business. We're very optimistic that we're still completely on plan and will have a very good summer."

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Reply #34 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 5:08pm
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Joey wrote on Jun 23rd, 2008 at 9:29am:
"   Rumblings are McCcartney will tour later in the year, but fuel for the tour trucks will run through a great deal of money.  "


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Macca can run his tour trucks off his own hot air.If its a major tour he can bring  Phil Collins along for extra hot air.
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Reply #35 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 5:34pm
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He'll just sell some more x-pensive tickets to the rich folks

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Reply #36 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 9:33am
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June 30, 2008

Live Nation to stick with star strategy and exclusive tour deals

Adam Sherwin, Media Correspondent

A split at the top of Live Nation, the leader in global concert tours, will not affect the company's strategy of offering exclusive deals worth up to $150 million (£75.2 million) to star names, a leading executive in the company said.

Michael Cohl, Live Nation chairman, resigned this month after a disagreement over the music giant's strategy of luring artists including Madonna, U2 and Jay-Z with so-called 360 deals that encompass recording, touring and merchandising.

Live Nation shares have declined 19 per cent this year amid concerns that the company, which has made a loss for three years, is handing too much cash upfront to a group of wealthy and ageing artists. Mr Cohl, who turned the Rolling Stones into a $1billion touring business, wanted to snap up more top-level stars, such as Shakira, but Michael Rapino, Live Nation chief executive, favoured a more conservative approach. Arthur Fogel, head of global touring, who has taken over Live Nation Artists from Mr Cohl, told The Times: “Michael [Cohl] remains as a consultant and major shareholder. We absolutely remain committed to our strategy.”

Mr Fogel brokered the ten-year, $120 million Madonna deal, which ended the star's association with Warner Music. He produced her three most recent world tours, which grossed almost $400 million. Ticket sales for her 42-date Sticky & Sweet tour, the first under the new deal, which begins in Cardiff in August, stand at 90 per cent, with one million sold.


Mr Fogel said: “We are pretty good at doing deals which work for the artists and ourselves. This time Madonna is getting to a lot of countries and cities she hasn't visited for 15 years and people are going to see a ground-breaking production.”

Madonna will receive about $120 million in cash and stock over ten years from the company. Live Nation expects to recoup about $50 million from ticket sales, merchandising and sponsorship over a cycle of three tours, plus a possible $20 million from a stake in Madonna's fashion businesses. However, expectations that the company could earn $80 million from new albums may be far too high, given the declining recorded-music market. And the deal assumes that the star will maintain the same intensive level of touring until she is 60 years old.

Mr Fogel said that it made financial sense to lock Madonna into a long-term deal because of her “unique position and stature as an artist. She is the ‘chairman of the board' but always at the cutting edge. Her audience demographic are also likely to spend more on merchandise at shows.”

Wall Street was less impressed with the $150 million deal handed to Jay-Z. Live Nation will finance the hip-hop mogul's next business investments and recording costs, but his long-term attraction as a live artist is unclear.

Mr Fogel said: “Jay-Z is an exceptional businessman and an artist with great instincts. He will also help bring us younger artists to develop. We need to create the next generation of Madonnas and U2s.” An $80 million, 12-year deal with U2, which excludes recorded music, met with approval because of the veteran band's consistent renewal of its live show and audience.

Live Nation, worth $900 million, will develop its own ticketing infrastructure when a long-term deal with Ticketmaster, now seen as a competitor, expires at the end of this year. Selling tickets, music and merchandise directly to fans through artist websites is part of the company plan. It is also expected to invest in venues.

Live music will survive the economic downturn, he predicted. Mr Fogel said: “The biggest names were underpriced for years and people will still pay to see them. But festivals and some mid-to-lower ranking acts, who are over-priced, will suffer.”

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article423...

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UPDATE 1-Live Nation ramps up ticketing plans with CEO
NEW YORK, June 30 (Reuters) - Concert promoter Live Nation Inc (LYV.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Monday it appointed the first chief executive of its new ticketing unit in the latest move to fulfill its ambitions to be a full-service music business company.

Live Nation said it promoted Nathan Hubbard to the position of CEO, charged with creating a new concert ticketing company which will also oversee LiveNation.com, the website through which it sells many of its tickets.

Hubbard was previously CEO of Musictoday, a ticketing company which Live Nation bought in 2006 and developed the system through which the company now sells more than 2 million tickets a year.

Live Nation has made headlines in the last year with its high profile moves beyond concert promotion to sign established artists like Madonna, U2 and Jay-Z to recording contracts and merchandising deals.

But one of the Los Angeles company's more pressing challenges is a move to establish its own ticketing business once its long-term contract with market leader Ticketmaster runs out at the end of the year. Ticketmaster is being spun off from its parent IAC/InterActiveCorp (IACI.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) later this summer.

Live Nation said Hubbard had built a platform that will enable the company to handle an expected 20 million tickets worldwide when it takes over all of its own operations.

Once established, the new ticketing unit is also expected to eventually be a competitor to Ticketmaster for third party contracts at venues and festivals not owned by Live Nation.

The strategy to evolve into a 360-degree music company has ruffled some feathers in the music industry as it pits Live Nation against many long-term business partners such as record labels, merchandisers and ticketing companies.

The business evolution has even caused conflict within Live Nation's own management. This month former chairman Michael Cohl stepped down from the board over a disagreement with Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino because he wanted Live Nation to increase the pace at which it signs up big name artists. Cohl is now a consultant with the company. (Reporting by Yinka Adegoke, editing by Dave Zimmerman)



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Reply #38 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 10:00am
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No wonder the public is trashing their stock.They pay Madonna 120 mil up front and 'hope" to recoup 70 mil over three tours? Hell even if she makes 3 top selling albums over that span say at 3 mil sales each Live would need to make almost 6 bucks an album to break even on the 120.I'm surprised Mick didnt jump on this as it looks like easy money for the artist.
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