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******* Two rare videos from an 1969 italian movie
Jun 11^th, 2008 at 8:44am

First to all, thanks to my buddy Franck to find all these rarities !
(I've got the whole movie, but these two extracts are on a new japanese DVDr bootleg).

These two clips come from an italian movie "Umano non Umano", directed by Mario Schifano, showed at the Venezia Festival in 1969, but only released in 1971.

Very experimental movie !
The parts with the Glimmer Twins were shot in Roma in 1969.
Anita Pallenberg was a co-producer of the movie.

First video, a Jagger lipsynch on Street Fighting Man, with a nice pink suit:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=cNMZhuEg6xg

Second video, Keith tries to play on a Moog synthetizer, very experimental too ! :
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=3RQ5x_v1emg

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Reply #1 - Jun 11^th, 2008 at 8:55am

Hey Jeep, these are both fantastic videos, thanks!

I think this explains to me better than any argument why most people seem to think rock 'n' roll is something for younger people - just look at them! They weren't afraid to experiment and try things out... I wonder what the Glimmers would think if they were asked to comment on these videos today. really?

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axl79 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 292 Stockholm, Sweden Gender:	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #3 - Jun 11^th, 2008 at 4:25pm That was really cool , nice videos, never seen keith in front of a synth before ! Thanks a lot !
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PartyDoll MEG Rocks Off Regular Offline Just one drink from your lovin' cup Posts: 3,127	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #4 - Jun 11^th, 2008 at 5:27pm Very strange.. So glad Mick picked up some more dance moves Thanks for postin' Jeep!!
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Honky Tonk Man Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,272 London Gender:	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #5 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 1:28am I'm a little confused as to how I didn't know of this movie or footage. You think you have a period covered and then something like this turns up! Keith and the synth is odd, but the Jagger bit is a little odd to. The 1960's, eh?
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corgi37 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,559 Aussie land Gender:	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #6 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 2:16am Wow. That is some fantastic, weird ass, shit. Hilarious!
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Offline The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,957 Wonderland Gender:	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #7 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 6:29am Great videos Jeep, I left a message there. Is the music in the Keith video real or added as a background music?
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Reply #8 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 7:12am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 6:29am:

Great videos Jeep, I left a message there. Is the music in the Keith video real or added as a background music?

It's hard to answer... Huh

This is the original sound from the movie, with the heartbeats at the beginning and the end.
Is there a Moog specialist on this board ?

BTW, the clip with Mick lipsynching on SFM risks to be censored by ABKCO I guess...

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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: *** Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m Reply #12 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 10:11am Really cool videos! I love how new stuff keeps turning up....we DON'T know everything there is to know {or see} about this band yet.
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Re: ******* Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m
Reply #13 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 10:25am

axl79 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 3:49pm:

I guess this should be early 70 in Italy, where Mick , Anita and Keith spent vacations after the 69 American tour.

Well it says it was shown at the 1969 Venice Film Festival, so it would probably have been shot in late 1968/early 1969 by my reckoning, because :

1) Mick and Keith wrote 'Midnight Rambler' on holiday in Positano, Italy - and the first recordings of that song date from February 1969.

2) Marianne left Jagger for Schifano during the Stones '69 American tour - they were reconciled around Christmas 1969. I'd be surprised if Jagger would have had much to do with Schifano after that.

3) In early 1969 "Street Fighting Man" was the lead cut from the Stones recently released album. Would have made sense for them to be doing some promotional work around that song at that time - not a year later, by which time they had released 'Let It Bleed'.

4) Jagger used a moog synthesizer when recording the music for Kenneth Anger's film "Invocation of My Demon Brother" in November 1968

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Reply #14 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 1:38pm

Gazza wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

axl79 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 3:49pm:

I guess this should be early 70 in Italy, where Mick , Anita and Keith spent vacations after the 69 American tour.

Well it says it was shown at the 1969 Venice Film Festival, so it would probably have been shot in late 1968/early 1969 by my reckoning, because :

1) Mick and Keith wrote 'Midnight Rambler' on holiday in Positano, Italy - and the first recordings of that song date from February 1969.

2) Marianne left Jagger for Schifano during the Stones '69 American tour - they were reconciled around Christmas 1969. I'd be surprised if Jagger would have had much to do with Schifano after that.

3) In early 1969 "Street Fighting Man" was the lead cut from the Stones recently released album. Would have made sense for them to be doing some promotional work around that song at that time - not a year later, by which time they had released 'Let It Bleed'.

4) Jagger used a moog synthesizer when recording the music for Kenneth Anger's film "Invocation of My Demon Brother" in November 1968

Gazza, you are right, the film seems to have been release in 1969, so no question about it.

1) don't get the connection here with Midnight Rambler.
2) I dont think that Mick care about it, he was occupied fucking Anita Shocked

3) the song was really hot and Schifano want it for sure in his movie as well Wink

4) Keith took the opurtunite when Mick was out and hope nobody was looking.. Grin

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Re: ******* Two rare videos from an 1969 italian m
Reply #16 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 2:13pm

axl79 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 1:38pm:

Gazza wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

axl79 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 3:49pm:

I guess this should be early 70 in Italy, where Mick , Anita and Keith spent vacations after the 69 American tour.

Well it says it was shown at the 1969 Venice Film Festival, so it would probably have been shot in late 1968/early 1969 by my reckoning, because :

1) Mick and Keith wrote 'Midnight Rambler' on holiday in Positano, Italy - and the first recordings of that song date from February 1969.

2) Marianne left Jagger for Schifano during the Stones '69 American tour - they were reconciled around Christmas 1969. I'd be surprised if Jagger would have had much to do with Schifano after that.

3) In early 1969 "Street Fighting Man" was the lead cut from the Stones recently released album. Would have made sense for them to be doing some promotional work around that song at that time - not a year later, by which time they had released 'Let It Bleed'.

4) Jagger used a moog synthesizer when recording the music for Kenneth Anger's film "Invocation of My Demon Brother" in November 1968

Gazza, you are right, the film seems to have been release in 1969, so no question about it.

1) don't get the connection here with Midnight Rambler.
2) I dont think that Mick care about it, he was occupied fucking Anita Shocked

3) the song was really hot and Schifano want it for sure in his movie as well Wink

4) Keith took the opurtunite when Mick was out and hope nobody was looking.. Grin

1) Just trying to provide a timeline as to when Mick and Keith were in Italy
2) LOL. True, although the 'Performance' movie was shot in mid 1968. Marianne has also mentioned that Mick was ready to physically fight Schifano for her. Maybe his ego was hurt more than anything.
3) Who would blame him.
4) Probably!

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Reply #17 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 2:16pm

Gimme Shelter wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 1:56pm:

I hope someday the Stones will release a large collection that they create themselves like the Beatles Anthology that way everyone will get to see gems like these. Someday..... :howefun

Me too, but the two problems I would see would be that :

a) after all the fuss we've made over it down the years , would it live up to the hype?

and

b) would you trust them to make a good job of it, bearing in mind the slapdash, half arsed way theyve approached some projects in recent years? I dont think Mick cares about it too much and would lose interest pretty quickly. The only Stone past or present capable of overseeing such a venture is Bill Wyman.

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Reply #18 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 2:32pm

Gazza wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 2:16pm:

Gimme Shelter wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 1:56pm:

I hope someday the Stones will release a large collection that they create themselves like the Beatles Anthology that way everyone will get to see gems like these. Someday..... :howefun

Me too, but the two problems I would see would be that :

a) after all the fuss we've made over it down the years , would it live up to the hype?

and

b) would you trust them to make a good job of it, bearing in mind the slapdash, half arsed way theyve approached some projects in recent years? I dont think Mick cares about it too much and would lose interest pretty quickly. The only Stone past or present capable of overseeing such a venture is Bill Wyman.

Bill Wyman is the perfect candidate for this roll , yes indeed, he proved it with his own book, it'is really good.

I would love to see more "70-71" Stones around, the 71 UK tour is really a big gap apart from Coventry, Leeds and Marquee Club.

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