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Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian
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Well it has been reported that The Rolling Stones will search, or re-negotiate a record contract, with the possibility of a tour deal to coincide or be some how included with the contract after the Shine A Light promotions were finished. Needless to say they are finished now.

-I am assuming they are talking about this right now or are starting to move all the way in that direction. If so, I am assuming they will have a contract in place by September and will officially begin the writing/recording process around the same time. 


Any thought on this?


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Reply #1 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 8:45am
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It would be great news if true but if it was in progress somehow I think we might have heard something. Surely Mick will take the lead and report to the other 3 if and when there is an offer to consider.Based on sales I doubt they are a "hot" commodity in todays market.In fact they may forego a deal beyond a one off to avoid comparisons with other star performers long term deals.Live Nation I'm sure would love to scoop them and Cohl can no doubt make that happen.Really though it may take until later this year for them even to decide if they want to do anything regarding a new cd or even a mini tour.But surely as they see how this board as been hijacked by useless political debates they'll come to their senses soon and see how badly we need them to continue!
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Reply #2 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 9:16am
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I tend to think that Keith will (if it happens) take the lead. Wasn't it Keith who got them their contract with Virgin? I thought Virgin took on the Winos first album and then it led into the Stones.  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 10:32am
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Ian Billen wrote on Jun 4th, 2008 at 8:26pm:
Well it has been reported that The Rolling Stones will search, or re-negotiate a record contract, with the possibility of a tour deal to coincide or be some how included with the contract after the Shine A Light promotions were finished. Needless to say they are finished now.

-I am assuming they are talking about this right now or are starting to move all the way in that direction. If so, I am assuming they will have a contract in place by September and will officially begin the writing/recording process around the same time.  


Any thought on this?


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I'd imagine moves have been afoot since before SAL came out - although its not like theres any rush.

I dont think theres a chance in hell that they'll stay with EMI. Theyve been absolutely useless in selling Stones product in the last few years, are dropping artists left right and centre as they're in a financial mess - plus the Stones have NEVER renewed a record contract.

I also think its going to be very unlikely any record label is going to offer them anything more than a short term contract when taking into account their age and their lack of productivity in the last two decades. That, plus the fact that the days of big record contracts are pretty much over.

Their main selling point with Virgin in 1991 was their back catalogue. Theres only so many times you can repackage that however. I'm not convinced theres much mileage in their post 1970 catalogue unless a new label can find a new way of rehashing it - maybe with unreleased material etc. Its certainly the only way I'd be persuaded to buy that stuff again.

The Stones major source of revenue now is in ticket sales. Which is why I expect any future record contract to be tied in with that in the way Madonna and one or two other acts have done with Live Nation.
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They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.
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Reply #5 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:42am
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am:
They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.



i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition.
With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction.

no?
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Reply #6 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 12:01pm
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Egon wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:42am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am:
They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.



i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition.
With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction.

no?

funny...
Rare Licks??
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" i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition.
With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction. "


How about a dance remix of Indian Girl ?!


Now THAT would be something special .

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" I'd imagine moves have been afoot since before SAL came out - although its not like theres any rush.

I dont think theres a chance in hell that they'll stay with EMI. Theyve been absolutely useless in selling Stones product in the last few years, are dropping artists left right and centre as they're in a financial mess - plus the Stones have NEVER renewed a record contract.

I also think its going to be very unlikely any record label is going to offer them anything more than a short term contract when taking into account their age and their lack of productivity in the last two decades. That, plus the fact that the days of big record contracts are pretty much over.

Their main selling point with Virgin in 1991 was their back catalogue. Theres only so many times you can repackage that however. I'm not convinced theres much mileage in their post 1970 catalogue unless a new label can find a new way of rehashing it - maybe with unreleased material etc. Its certainly the only way I'd be persuaded to buy that stuff again.

The Stones major source of revenue now is in ticket sales. Which is why I expect any future record contract to be tied in with that in the way Madonna and one or two other acts have done with Live Nation.  "


Christ , that is ' Oracle of Omaha ' Postin' right there !


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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2008 at 4:23pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am:
They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.


If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead.
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" If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead "


Christ  , that is what they call ,  ...........     "   Brazen Head Postin '   "




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Well mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 4:23pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am:
They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.


If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead.

all up above the rim.
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Well mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono.


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" mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono "


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If they go to Wal-Mart, after the E*gl*s - I'm retiring.
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I cant see another tour. I think there are too many factors that could pose serious risks to a financial windfall.

1. Economy - The Yanks are stuffed. Their dollar is diving. People are losing their homes. Iraq is sapping the life out of everything and everyone. There is not a A-class porn star on the horizon. Things are bad!
2. Fuel - The absolute killer at the moment. The extra costs would be so massive, that ticket prices would have to go through the roof and again, that leads to the economy question and if people can afford (or are willing) to part with big bucks for hearing the same fucking songs they only just heard a couple of years ago.
3. Nothing to promote - There is no new album coming up. There will be nothing again i reckon. And as sales of ABB in the U.S. show, no one there wants a new cd. Whats the point anyway? They'll play no frigging songs off it. And, as people they are living in the streets, with only their flag and a gun for comfort, buying a lame ass Stones cd of new music is way down the list. And again, people mourn for a leading porn star since Jenna retired. Sadness is all around.
4. Too old - I dont think they could handle a big tour. I really dont. And they have few new fans. I dont think the Stones are too old for a 3 month U.S. tour, but i think the fan base is too old to give a shit and fork out upwards of maybe $600 for a ticket.
5. Ticket prices - All linked to the above reasons, this would HAVE to be the most expensive show ever. The band simply would not accept a lesser take home fee. They just wouldnt. They aint doing this for our benefit, are they? It's not the right time in the current economic climate to mount a tour. Unless they cut back on the crewk and i cant see them giving up their robe holders and pillow fluffers. Plus, U2 are due to start up soon, so if there's 1 major expense some one is prepared to outlay, i think they would win.

Plus, the world needs a new superstar of porn real bad! THAT takes priority i feel.
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As part of his many "change" promises Barack Obama has stated the cure for the American economy is a huge Stones stadium tour with a set playlist of 16 songs and tickets averaging $300.This is the only specific strategy to date from his campaign.
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I dunno, yes alot of ppl in america wont wana buy tickets, but some might, and they could do a short midsized theatre tour

also shien a light did well both the movie and esp the soundtrack, which reached no2 or something in the UK, so they can still sell, and the reason they sold so well? the promotion, shine a light had brillaint promotion, mustve cost millions, so if they did that with even a mediocre 25th or watever album tehy could sell well, i cant recall the promotion for ABB was it big? suppose they did have the tour to raise awarness

anyway, i think a tour is always on the cards, esp if they pull the "1930s aged female movie star" thing and call it their farewell tour - like cher, shes callin it a farewell concert, think shes only doin like 3 probly, dunno, but they shud do that another 3 times and be serious about the last one as theyll be like 71 average, then they can settle down and just do wat les paul does walk to the local bar and play guitar for a couple hours every night

and keep in mind, the problem with your main point about the economy - though a valid one (and if you wanna know about living in shit, live in the UK gordon browns gonna tax tax soon! lol) have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live


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U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now.
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have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live


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Dylan does not and never has charged "astronomical amounts of money" for shows in the UK (and unlike Neil Young & Tom Waits (both of whom only play here once every few years) he isnt playing the UK this year anyway). His most recent UK shows last year had prices of £37.50 and £32.50. And there was a free priority ticket allocation for the 'hardcore' fans, so I got seats in the front 6 rows for the three arena shows I bought tickets for. It ended up even costing me less than what most fans paid for because I didnt have to get the tickets through ticketmaster.

Waits and Young charged high prices for shows in THEATRES. Its still cheaper than what the Stones and Madonna charge for nosebleeds in a stadium. (Young at Manchester Apollo - £65 and £75, I think. Waits in Edinburgh - £95 and £75.). Those venues hold 2,500 - 3,000 people.

Not everyone feels the need to push ticket prices through the roof or screw their fans with $100 presales (where the best tickets are siphoned off to brokers and overpriced travel companies). Springsteen and Prince being the obvious examples when it comes to artists who can fill large arenas or stadiums and who can make their shows very affordable.
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