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glencar Ex Member	Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian Reply #50 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 8:19pm I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.
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Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian
Reply #51 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 8:40pm

andrews27 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 9:16am:

As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring.

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Yes. I whole-heartedly agree. The group would never think about being in entertainment limbo with no deal as being The Rolling Stones (nor would their management either...and for good reason).

I don't think any of them would have that (maybe Woody would not quite care as much as the rest but still, the rest would never let this happen).

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glencar Ex Member	Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian Reply #52 - Jun 12^th, 2008 at 8:51pm Sorry but I think you "think" about this stuff about 1000 times more than the Stones do.
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Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian
Reply #54 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 5:41am

Joey wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 10:57am:

" As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring "

You raise an interesting point there my Stonesian Brother .

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Reply #55 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:03am

The Eagles are amazingly popular here and their last 2 tours broke all sorts of records. Their cd's sell too!!

I can see the point of the Stones wanting a deal - but for new stuff? Or for the back catalogue.

And, is the catalogue worth much these days? I'd just about anyone who want THE BIG 4 already have them. I cant see 16 year old kids running down the store or ordering online to buy Emotional Rescue if they go to a new label. I'm sure the catalogue is worth something, but i dont know if a new cd would be.

UNLESS......

They some deal where they cop a few points less on a new cd, pay for recording, and give a new label some slice of the touring pie.

Which means, yet again, that Jagger and company would simply HAVE to make up a shortfall of profits from some one.

And that some one is you! piss off

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Reply #56 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:26am

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I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored.

SAL was a surprising exception.

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Reply #57 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 7:18am

Gazza wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:26am:

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I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored.

SAL was a surprising exception.

This guitar overdubbing by the guitar techs - I wish someone could give a few examples. I'm by no means saying that it doesn't happen, but its very cleverly done if it is. Keith and Ronnie both have their own unique sound - especially Keith. The overdubs would have to be very subtle.

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Reply #59 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 10:19am

" LOL. Joey, what can I say. You bring a happiness to this board. Even when people argue your vibe is always there doin your thing when you post. There a few people in which nobody ever could have a problem or riff with. You, our good friend, are one of those people. It is a gift. Ya Can't EVER quit posting here. Oh yes, and by the way I want your attitude. May I borrow it? (and could you please throw in your bill-fold. You know, a little cash in pocket always helps the spirits..) "

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Reply #60 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 10:55am

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 7:18am:

Gazza wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:26am:

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I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored.

SAL was a surprising exception.

This guitar overdubbing by the guitar techs - I wish someone could give a few examples. I'm by no means saying that it doesn't happen, but its very cleverly done if it is. Keith and Ronnie both have their own unique sound - especially Keith. The overdubs would have to be very subtle.

well, there's certainly guitar overdubs on the Austin DVD - its quite evident on watching and listening to the show.

My ears arent as finely tuned as that of some of you to enable me to discern who's playing what, but on the 'Biggest Bang' DVD credits, its clearly there - "additional recordings by Pierre de Beauport, Dave Rouze" - those guys are guitar techs.

"Four Flicks" was released on 11th November 2003. The Stones toured Europe from 4 June - 2 October 2003 and two of the shows on that tour (Twickenham 24/8 and Paris 11/7) were included on the DVD. I think its pretty much accepted that there was some post-production 'sweetening' done on some of the songs. Maybe Mathijs or someone with good ears can tell you on what songs. The Stones didnt have any known studio activity between the dates those shows took place and the end of the tour and there almost certainly wouldnt have been enough time after 7th October to have finished any overdubs prior to the release of the DVD, so that would suggest to me that if there was any additional recordings made, they werent done by the Stones.

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Reply #62 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 12:02pm

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I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Except it's hard to think of them of "lesser" in the context that the shows are good enough to release "as is" when in the case of the Stones it often isn't.q

I was just listening to my Pixies 2004-2005 soundboards. What amazing fucking shows.

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Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian
Reply #63 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 1:31pm

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 11:10am:

After watching and listening to SAL in IMAX the playing was so stunning and near perfect I cant help but think Keith and Ronnie did some post filming dubbing.

Perfect? Stunning? Wha-what? They played fine, but far from perfect. I actually prefer it this way because it gives the show such a sloppy, garagey feel. ADTL, shattered, SMU, Satisfaction, and Brown Sugar were damn near perfect though, I'll give you that.

The only major qualm I have with the playing on SAL is the repetitiveness of Keith's leads.

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Reply #64 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 3:40pm

Holden wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 1:31pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 11:10am:

After watching and listening to SAL in IMAX the playing was so stunning and near perfect I cant help but think Keith and Ronnie did some post filming dubbing.

Perfect? Stunning? Wha-what? They played fine, but far from perfect. I actually prefer it this way because it gives the show such a sloppy, garagey feel. ADTL, shattered, SMU, Satisfaction, and Brown Sugar were damn near perfect though, I'll give you that.

The only major qualm I have with the playing on SAL is the repetitiveness of Keith's leads.

In comparison to European leg of ABB and the boots I heard SAL was stunning in guitar work so much so I really dont believe it was a one off take.

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Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian
Reply #65 - Jun 13^th, 2008 at 3:45pm

yeah, I agree that the guitar work was a lot better than the majority of the last 2 ABB legs. It may have just been the setting. It's a lot easier to play and concentrate on the music when the whole band is so close and there aren't any distractions. Too bad there aren't any decent Beacon boots to compare to the movie.

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corgi37 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,559 Aussie land Gender:	Re: Are The Stones Negotiating Now?... from Ian Reply #66 - Jun 14^th, 2008 at 5:17am Maybe no overdubs. That "point and sound" type of soundtrack can be misleading. Yet, maybe there was? I mean, the flick was supposed to be out last year and was shelved at the last minute.
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