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Reply #225 - Jun 25th, 2008 at 9:21am
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Reply #226 - Jun 25th, 2008 at 3:11pm
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FOX News is doing a story tonight on The O'Reilly Factor about how the adoring youth actually have no idea what Barry O'Bama really stands for.


He stands for:

Good-looking tall black guys.

Affirmative action laws.

Lack of true macro-economic understanding.

Robbing from the rich and giving to bums.

White guilt.

Intellectual elitism.

Anti-hunting.

Being a pussy in the face of terrorists.

The welfare/nanny state.

....and a bunch of other things to destroy The United States.

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Reply #227 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 7:18am
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FOX News is doing a story tonight on The O'Reilly Factor about how the adoring youth actually have no idea what Barry O'Bama really stands for.


He stands for:

Good-looking tall black guys.

Affirmative action laws.

Lack of true macro-economic understanding.

Robbing from the rich and giving to bums.

White guilt.

Intellectual elitism.

Anti-hunting.

Being a pussy in the face of terrorists.

The welfare/nanny state.

....and a bunch of other things to destroy The United States.




It's a joy yo know 7 1/2 years of the boy retard have been good for you. Being white and middle class in North america has it pluses, no!
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Reply #228 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 9:02am
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Being a successfull national politician, I doubt Obama stands for anything. Except maybe the size of the next kickback.
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Reply #229 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 9:49am
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Talk about money???

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The right Bush supporters will argue that the war is fought to protect us, stop the spread of Islamic terror, build democracies in the mid-east, remove WMD's and Dictators who have them ect...

It's just a paycheck...



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Reply #230 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:17am
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That's awfully cynical. I don't think any GOPers ever accused Clinton of interceding in Bosnia "for a paycheck." Be careful, Bush Derangement Syndrome takes a mind over with deadly speed. You should know that I'm tired of him as POTUS but that doesn't mean I have an ounce of respect for O'bama.  McCain might appear to be a crazy old man but he has served our country, he seems clean & he was correct on the need for more troops. I think the fall debates will be quite revealing.
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Reply #231 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:11pm
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"  I think the fall debates will be quite revealing "


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That's awfully cynical. I don't think any GOPers ever accused Clinton of interceding in Bosnia "for a paycheck." Be careful, Bush Derangement Syndrome takes a mind over with deadly speed. You should know that I'm tired of him as POTUS but that doesn't mean I have an ounce of respect for O'bama.  McCain might appear to be a crazy old man but he has served our country, he seems clean & he was correct on the need for more troops. I think the fall debates will be quite revealing.



Do you know squat about the Carlyle Group? And who is emplyeed?
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Reply #233 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:17pm
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I am starting to hope Obama gets elected just because it's what Republicans deserve for supporting Bush all these years.
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ijwthstd wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:17pm:
I am starting to hope Obama gets elected just because it's what Republicans deserve for supporting Bush all these years.



Hillary would've been only half of the the sting they deserve. I hope the hammer and sickle fall, serves the fascists right... Haha!
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Reply #235 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 1:51pm
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So now I'm a fascist? LOL As bad as Barry O'Bama is, he's not a Clinton. Thank God!!!!
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Reply #236 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:46pm
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According to the Middle East Times, Moqtada al-Sadr’s militia has begun to disintegrate after a series of confrontations with the Iraqi Army throughout the south of Iraq. The remnants of the Mahdi Army have gone underground, forming an armed network on a much smaller scale. How small? Think of the Spartans at Thermopylae, and cut that in half while removing the courage and the military skill:
The Mehdi Army of Moqtada Sadr is evolving into a clandestine movement following Iraqi military operations targeting the group, intelligence suggests.
The military wing of the Sadrist Movement, the political party loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr, is “turning itself into a secret armed organization,” an Iraqi intelligence official told the Gulf News on condition of anonymity.
Iraqi intelligence reports suggest the group’s numbers have dwindled from around 50,000 to as few as 150 in the past few years.
Intelligence officials credit decisions by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to launch military offensives against Shiite militants in the southern parts of the country as deterring the group. An Iraqi intelligence official reports as many as 2,000 Mehdi Army fighters were killed in recent operations in Basra, Sadr City and the provincial capital of Maysan, Amarah.
Where did the rest of the Mahdis go? According to the intel official, a number of them followed Sadr into Iran, fleeing the IA when it came to Basra and Amarah. Maliki broke their back, and Sadr’s continuing issuance of empty threats wasn’t enough to keep the force together.
One could see this end result right from the beginning of the surge — actually, before it, when the surge first got announced. Sadr immediately fled to Iran and stayed there, turning the militia into another of Tehran’s proxies. The US kept them out of the way by avoiding engagements with the Mahdis and focusing on al-Qaeda in the West, but Maliki began isolating Sadr politically by building alliances with Sunnis, Kurds, and rival Shi’ites. Sadr got painted as a stooge of the Persians, and rightfully so. And when Maliki finally had a strong enough army, he took the lead against Sadr rather than the US, which finally gave Maliki a political edge against Sadr.
This became obvious over the last few weeks, when Sadr couldn’t get more than 1500 people to participate in a Sadr City protest over the Maliki actions in the south. It was a showing of Sadr’s weakness, and the flop showed how much ground Sadr had lost among his own constituency. He strongly suggested that he would declare war against the American forces and end the cease-fire, but he no longer has the forces to do that — and even the Mahdis remember the previous two beatings they took when Sadr dared to actively confront the US in Iraq.
Sadr has survived before, but this time he has lost the one asset that kept him politically alive. He may well wind up a forgotten toady in the court of the Iranian mullahcracy, and that’s if he’s lucky.
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Reply #237 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 3:27pm
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That's awfully cynical. I don't think any GOPers ever accused Clinton of interceding in Bosnia "for a paycheck." Be careful, Bush Derangement Syndrome takes a mind over with deadly speed. You should know that I'm tired of him as POTUS but that doesn't mean I have an ounce of respect for O'bama.  McCain might appear to be a crazy old man but he has served our country, he seems clean & he was correct on the need for more troops. I think the fall debates will be quite revealing.


did clinton's involvement in bosnia cost trillions of dollars, five plus years and the lives of 4100 US servicemen and counting?

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So now I'm a fascist? LOL As bad as Barry O'Bama is, he's not a Clinton. Thank God!!!!



You are no more fascist, than I am socialist. We just live in a hijacked democracy, with alot of people feeding us lies and disinformation. It's not a stretch, that groups like the Carlyle Group, function the same way the national socialist party in Germany did, with one big exception, they hide it better and use capitalism and misinformation to profit from the military industrial complex, which is most profitable during war, and even more profitable when you contract out all the jobs. The Nazis just did it out of hate for Jews and Commies, not greed. The Nazis at the core, believed in country first, not money and power.
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Reply #239 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 3:42pm
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That's awfully cynical. I don't think any GOPers ever accused Clinton of interceding in Bosnia "for a paycheck." Be careful, Bush Derangement Syndrome takes a mind over with deadly speed. You should know that I'm tired of him as POTUS but that doesn't mean I have an ounce of respect for O'bama.  McCain might appear to be a crazy old man but he has served our country, he seems clean & he was correct on the need for more troops. I think the fall debates will be quite revealing.


did clinton's involvement in bosnia cost trillions of dollars, five plus years and the lives of 4100 US servicemen and counting?


We're still there! Iraq has clearly turned the corner & we'll be out of combat there shortly. I wish at this point we hadn't gone in there but I don't want some neophyte dumbass getting elected & reversing course just because. I live in NYC area & I don't want another 9-11.
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So now I'm a fascist? LOL As bad as Barry O'Bama is, he's not a Clinton. Thank God!!!!



You are no more fascist, than I am socialist. We just live in a hijacked democracy, with alot of people feeding us lies and disinformation. It's not a stretch, that groups like the Carlyle Group, function the same way the national socialist party in Germany did, with one big exception, they hide it better and use capitalism and misinformation to profit from the military industrial complex, which is most profitable during war, and even more profitable when you contract out all the jobs. The Nazis just did it out of hate for Jews and Commies, not greed. The Nazis at the core, believed in country first, not money and power.

Isn't the Carlyle group just a big hedge fund? Shumer has their back!
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Reply #241 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 6:19pm
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So now I'm a fascist? LOL As bad as Barry O'Bama is, he's not a Clinton. Thank God!!!!



You are no more fascist, than I am socialist. We just live in a hijacked democracy, with alot of people feeding us lies and disinformation. It's not a stretch, that groups like the Carlyle Group, function the same way the national socialist party in Germany did, with one big exception, they hide it better and use capitalism and misinformation to profit from the military industrial complex, which is most profitable during war, and even more profitable when you contract out all the jobs. The Nazis just did it out of hate for Jews and Commies, not greed. The Nazis at the core, believed in country first, not money and power.




at the core i'd go with power then money.......... piss off
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" ... at the core i'd go with power then money..........  "


Are you from the state of Texas ?!





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Hmmmm........Gee, it's makes you wonder why people think that Obama is a Marxist?! Perhaps it's because he is! Yet the drones will vote for him anyway. Why not just throw our country right in the shitter. The drones can't see what's staring them right in the face.


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Reply #244 - Jul 1st, 2008 at 8:14am
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Joey wrote on Jun 28th, 2008 at 10:34am:
" ... at the core i'd go with power then money..........  "


Are you from the state of Texas ?!









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Riffy, my friend, if you really believe Obama is a communist, than I understand how you believe the bull we've been fed for 7 1/2 years. A Communist!!! REALLY? I am more Commie than Obammie!
I have to say this, all your extreme accusations of him, and the overwhelming defenses of this current admin. < I hope you realize just how extreme you are. Over the top mostly, but occasionly a bit fanatical in the rhetoric. This is America, and you act like things aren't known, yet we know more about politicians today, and the unimportant stuff, like we never knew 25 years ago...

If you have extrteme beliefs, and actively condemn others extreme beliefs you disagree with, than how is that American? Especially considering, you're basically saying the others are un-American...
There's a logical flaw, when only your idealogy is American and right, and the others are whackos who should be locked away and shut up. That is fascism, or part of it. It's ironic to me, you have this Commie complex, because fascists and Comiies do not get along.
Food for thought Hometown!
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Obama and McCain need to address the serious issues.

Prostitutes feeling the pinch at the pump

By Associated Press | Uncategorized | Sunday, 29 June 2008

Rising fuel prices are putting a pinch on the world’s oldest profession. Nevada brothels that cater to long-haul truckers are offering gas cards and other promotions after seeing business decline as much as 25 percent from a year ago, industry officials said.

Geoffrey Arnold, president of the Nevada Brothel Owners’ Association, said truckers account for up to 75 percent of business at the state’s rural brothels along Interstate 80 and U.S. Highway 95.

He said business is down about 19 percent at his two northern Nevada brothels along I-80: Donna’s Ranch in Wells and Donna’s Battle Mountain Ranch.

“We’re being affected by the economy like everybody else,” Arnold said. “Times are tougher … and truckers have less money to spend. They’re not high-rollers anymore.”

Diesel fuel costs roughly $4.70 a gallon, up 67.5 percent from a year ago, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.

Of Nevada’s 28 legal brothels, 16 are located in rural areas that are being hurt by truckers’ higher diesel costs, Arnold said. Whorehouses closer to Reno and Las Vegas, which rely more on tourists and conventioneers, say business is up this year.

In response to a 5 percent drop in business, the Shady Lady Ranch along U.S. 95 about 150 miles north of Las Vegas plans to offer $50 gas cards to clients who spend $300 and $100 gas cards to those who spend $500.

The brothel also offers special monthly discounts, including an offer of 45 minutes of services for $175 instead of the usual rate of $200.

“Anything that has to do with discretionary income is down,” owner Bobbi Davis said. “Instead of spending $500 out here, they might only spend $300. I see it every time they raise gas prices.”

Under a promotion under way at the Moonlite BunnyRanch near Carson City, the first 100 customers who arrive with government stimulus checks receive twice the services for the same regular price.

“We’re calling it double your stimulus,” said BunnyRanch owner Dennis Hof. “The brothel industry is having to get more creative just like all consumer products in America. Everybody has got to deal, and we’re doing the same thing.”

Sue’s Fantasy Club in Elko doesn’t need to extend any promotions because it doesn’t rely on truckers, said the brothel’s manager, who would identify herself only as Victoria.

Business is up from last year because of a booming local economy driven by mining and rising gold prices, she said.

“We would be hurting, too, if we had to depend on truckers,” she said.

Hardest hit are independent truckers, who must pay for their own fuel, said George Flint, a lobbyist for the brothel owners’ association.

“So there goes your disposable income to have a little fun,” Flint told the Reno Gazette-Journal.

Since January, the number of long-haul trucks based in Nevada has dropped by 4,100, or 12 percent, said Paul Eons of the Nevada Motor Transport Association.

Arnold predicted the industry would weather the slowdown.

“The customers won’t be spending as much, but the brothels will still be there,” he said. “After food, the most important activity, at least for men, is sex. Sex is not going away.”

The downturn also has affected brothels by leading to an increase in the number of women seeking jobs as legal prostitutes, Arnold added.

As business for escort services and strip clubs goes flat, “more women are interested in joining the (brothel) industry,” he said.

Nevada is the nation’s only state that allows brothels. Prostitution is legal in 10 of Nevada’s 17 counties, but it’s illegal in the Reno and Las Vegas metropolitan areas.



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[quote author=Riffhard link=1211216692/225#243 date=1214911404]Hmmmm........Gee, it's makes you wonder why people think that Obama is a Marxist?!

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Marxist??! Really? Even with the naming of Jason Furman to lead his economic policy team!!??



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-furman11-2008jun11,0,...

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Obama's selection of Jason Furman as economic advisor is criticized
Labor union officials and some liberal activists say Furman is too enamored of globalization and too easy on Wal-Mart.
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11:02 PM PDT, June 10, 2008

WASHINGTON — Labor union officials and some liberal activists were seething Tuesday over Barack Obama's choice of centrist economist Jason Furman as the top economic advisor for the campaign. The critics say Furman, who was appointed to the post Monday, has overstated the potential benefits of globalization, Social Security private accounts and the low prices offered by Wal-Mart -- considered a corporate pariah by the labor movement.

Officials from several labor organizations phoned the Obama campaign to complain about the appointment and circulated e-mail messages containing quotes from some of Furman's work. Campaign officials responded that some of the quotes were inaccurate or out of context. They expressed confidence in Furman's abilities and said that Obama would be listening to an array of advisors.

The dispute is a fresh reminder that sharp divisions on economic policy remain in the Democratic Party, even though the bruising fight for its presidential nomination has ended. Those divisions are likely to present a recurring problem for Obama, especially as he tries to ward off GOP accusations that he is too liberal.

And Obama is not the first Democratic presidential candidate to confront the problem. Sen. John F. Kerry faced it in 2004. Going farther back, liberal activists resented former President Clinton's support for free trade, deficit reduction and other centrist policies.

Furman, 37, is linked closely to Robert Rubin, a Wall Street insider and Clinton economics aide who eventually became Treasury secretary. Rubin's views on global trade and deficit reduction riled liberal economists and labor activists, though his presence gave the Clinton administration valuable credibility in the business and financial communities.

"We are very much taken aback that Furman has been put at the head of this team," said Marco Trbovich, a senior aide to United Steelworkers President Leo W. Gerard, whose support is considered crucial to Obama's success in heavily unionized areas of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota and other battleground states.

Trbovich worked with Furman during Kerry's presidential campaign, in which Furman was also an economic advisor.

"He is a very bright fellow, but he is an unalloyed cheerleader for the trade policies that have been very destructive to manufacturing jobs in this country," Trbovich said. "There are very serious concerns" about his appointment.

Perhaps the most enraging part of the record, according to Trbovich and others, were comments attributed to Furman on Wal-Mart.

In a paper presented in Washington, he suggested that there were some economic benefits from the company's low prices and other policies at a time when major labor unions had launched an anti-Wal-Mart campaign.

Furman worked most recently as a budget expert at the Brookings Institution in Washington heading the Hamilton Project, an economic policy research group. It was founded by Rubin, who now chairs the executive committee of Citigroup Inc.

Lori Wallach, a lawyer and leading opponent of free-trade policies, said the appointment was jarring from a policy and a political perspective.

"Furman seems like a liability, given his anti-worker writings and statements about Wal-Mart, fair trade and other middle-class issues," said Wallach, director of Public Citizen's global trade watch division.

An e-mail circulated among activists, scholars and senior labor officials Tuesday included quotes that Furman had offered in academic papers and media interviews in recent years.

"I hope the lesson that Democratic candidates take from this is not to bash trade and call for protectionism, but instead to call for a robust safety net," Furman told an NPR interviewer last year.

He was also quoted in a transcript from a CNBC interview in 2006 as suggesting openness to changes in Social Security that might include private accounts and benefit cuts.

The approach he described sounded similar in some ways to that proposed at the time by President Bush. The Bush private accounts idea was anathema to labor activists, who successfully challenged the president's initiative.

In naming Furman as economic policy director, Obama also announced that other economists, including some from the left, would informally become part of the Obama economics team.

One economist from the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute, Jared Bernstein, offered praise for Furman, saying he understood why some critics were unhappy, though he thought their fears were misplaced.

"I understand the concerns, given positions he has taken" on some issues, Bernstein said. "But I am 110% certain that it will be Barack Obama -- not Jason Furman or Robert Rubin -- who will be setting the policies for the Obama administration."

Although Furman has directed think-tank work on some controversial topics, Bernstein said he would be an effective campaign staff member. "If you look at his body of work, it's quite clear that the ultimate goal is very much the same as Obama's," he said.
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