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Re: [NSC] Why Obama is Unfit to Be President
Reply #125 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:22pm
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I don't think I can get through another month of this...let alone 4 years, Bucky!! 

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Reply #126 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:24pm
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Starbuck wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:04pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 2:30pm:
Yeah other than opening the door to radical Islamic terror via the dealings with the former Ayatollah Khomeini, the biggest and worse downturn in US economic growth since 1929, a ridiculous appeasement foreign policy plan, never meeting a tyrant he didn't embrace, tacitly giving a wink and nod to the Soviets that he would not respond to an attack on Afghanistan (thereby giving rise to the Taliban and the terror that they would spawn), a human rights policy that led to human rights disaster in Nicaragua and Iran, where he facilitated the rise to power of Marxists and Islamist despots, respectively, Carter spawned a war that ultimately saw one million dead Afghans, five million displaced, and a situation of evil that nurtured the Islamic hatred and militancy that ultimately turned on the West and brought about 9/11.



Oh yeah, and he also had a brother that pissed on the tarmac of an international airport in front of foreign dignitaries and reporters!


Other than all that Carter was a fucking genius!


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so everything from the afghanistan war to 9-11 is carter's fault? damn, riffy! i thought everything was clinton's fault! get your facts straight, my brotha!

i can't WAIT to hear you foam at the mouth over the next four years of the obama administration...... Puke all over me (wait that is BLEED)

anyone like to chip in some spare change to get riffy a therapist? this is going to be a long, hard road for him!



No Bucky I never said that. I just pointed out some very cold hard facts that are irrefutable given the history since his disastrous administration. Can you point to one thing that I have posted concerning Carter's history and refute it with facts? Because those are the very real facts. Clinton can certainly shoulder much blame for his pathetic approach to Islamic terror. Did he even have one? I seem to remember a blown up aspirin factory in the Sudan, but other than that? Not much.



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Reply #127 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 4:41pm
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Hey Riffy,
Does Eisenhower shoulder any blame for the rise of Islamic revolutionaries in Iran? Dumping a democratically elected PM to install the Shah? Maybe a little?
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Reply #128 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 4:41pm
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" .... I just pointed out some very cold hard facts that are irrefutable given the history since his disastrous administration. Can you point to one thing that I have posted concerning Carter's history and refute it with facts? Because those are the very real facts. Clinton can certainly shoulder much blame for his pathetic approach to ..................... "
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Reply #129 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 4:52pm
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Joey wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 4:41pm:
" .... I just pointed out some very cold hard facts that are irrefutable given the history since his disastrous administration. Can you point to one thing that I have posted concerning Carter's history and refute it with facts? Because those are the very real facts. Clinton can certainly shoulder much blame for his pathetic approach to ..................... "
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Reply #130 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:08pm
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Riffhard wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:24pm:
Starbuck wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:04pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 2:30pm:
Yeah other than opening the door to radical Islamic terror via the dealings with the former Ayatollah Khomeini, the biggest and worse downturn in US economic growth since 1929, a ridiculous appeasement foreign policy plan, never meeting a tyrant he didn't embrace, tacitly giving a wink and nod to the Soviets that he would not respond to an attack on Afghanistan (thereby giving rise to the Taliban and the terror that they would spawn), a human rights policy that led to human rights disaster in Nicaragua and Iran, where he facilitated the rise to power of Marxists and Islamist despots, respectively, Carter spawned a war that ultimately saw one million dead Afghans, five million displaced, and a situation of evil that nurtured the Islamic hatred and militancy that ultimately turned on the West and brought about 9/11.



Oh yeah, and he also had a brother that pissed on the tarmac of an international airport in front of foreign dignitaries and reporters!


Other than all that Carter was a fucking genius!


Riffy


so everything from the afghanistan war to 9-11 is carter's fault? damn, riffy! i thought everything was clinton's fault! get your facts straight, my brotha!

i can't WAIT to hear you foam at the mouth over the next four years of the obama administration...... Puke all over me (wait that is BLEED)

anyone like to chip in some spare change to get riffy a therapist? this is going to be a long, hard road for him!



No Bucky I never said that. I just pointed out some very cold hard facts that are irrefutable given the history since his disastrous administration. Can you point to one thing that I have posted concerning Carter's history and refute it with facts? Because those are the very real facts. Clinton can certainly shoulder much blame for his pathetic approach to Islamic terror. Did he even have one? I seem to remember a blown up aspirin factory in the Sudan, but other than that? Not much.



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Read any of these?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2004/07/22/0721911Repor...
http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Enemies-Inside-Americas/dp/0743260457

Me did.  Me am readed them.
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Reply #131 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:15pm
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sirmoonie wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:08pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:24pm:
Starbuck wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 3:04pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 2:30pm:
Yeah other than opening the door to radical Islamic terror via the dealings with the former Ayatollah Khomeini, the biggest and worse downturn in US economic growth since 1929, a ridiculous appeasement foreign policy plan, never meeting a tyrant he didn't embrace, tacitly giving a wink and nod to the Soviets that he would not respond to an attack on Afghanistan (thereby giving rise to the Taliban and the terror that they would spawn), a human rights policy that led to human rights disaster in Nicaragua and Iran, where he facilitated the rise to power of Marxists and Islamist despots, respectively, Carter spawned a war that ultimately saw one million dead Afghans, five million displaced, and a situation of evil that nurtured the Islamic hatred and militancy that ultimately turned on the West and brought about 9/11.



Oh yeah, and he also had a brother that pissed on the tarmac of an international airport in front of foreign dignitaries and reporters!


Other than all that Carter was a fucking genius!


Riffy


so everything from the afghanistan war to 9-11 is carter's fault? damn, riffy! i thought everything was clinton's fault! get your facts straight, my brotha!

i can't WAIT to hear you foam at the mouth over the next four years of the obama administration...... Puke all over me (wait that is BLEED)

anyone like to chip in some spare change to get riffy a therapist? this is going to be a long, hard road for him!



No Bucky I never said that. I just pointed out some very cold hard facts that are irrefutable given the history since his disastrous administration. Can you point to one thing that I have posted concerning Carter's history and refute it with facts? Because those are the very real facts. Clinton can certainly shoulder much blame for his pathetic approach to Islamic terror. Did he even have one? I seem to remember a blown up aspirin factory in the Sudan, but other than that? Not much.



Riffy

Read any of these?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2004/07/22/0721911Repor...
http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Enemies-Inside-Americas/dp/0743260457

Me did.  Me am readed them.

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Reply #132 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:15pm
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Why ?!


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Reply #133 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:46pm
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jesus mormon christ, moonbear. riffy has already demonstrated that carter was to blame for 9-11. lay off him, FFS.

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Reply #134 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 6:02pm
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Starbuck wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:46pm:
sirmoonie wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:08pm:


jesus mormon christ, moonbear. riffy has already demonstrated that carter was to blame for 9-11. lay off him, FFS.


Not to me he hasn't.  Unless there is some big ass exception to the Laws of Primacy and Recency that I am completely unaware of.  Which is highly unlikely.

Nah, you can shovel most of it on George Walker Bush III.  He's a reactor, not a preemptor, as that takes conceptual non-linear thinking.  And his reaction is usually "Huh?  Goats?  What?..........um...... Spend more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!"
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Reply #135 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 6:58pm
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Starbuck wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:46pm:
sirmoonie wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:08pm:


jesus mormon christ, moonbear. riffy has already demonstrated that carter was to blame for 9-11. lay off him, FFS.



Uhhh Bucky my point about Jimma was dead on. That you have a problem with recent histroy is not my problem. I am not blaming Carter for 9/11 at all. I am blaming him for allowing the seed of Islamic extremism to be planted inside Iran because of his limp wristed foriegn policy in dealing with the issue at the time. Most historians agree with that as well. 9/11 happened as a result of the emboldening of Islamic extremism that Carter's ineffectual foriegn policy spawned. However, it was Wahabists from Saudi Arabia that were responsible for 9/11.


That Moonie loves to try and stupidly lay the blame on Bush for 9/11 is the real funny thing! I read the 9/11 Commision Report, Moonie! Did you?! It clearly pointed out the fact that the erection of a wall of silence between the FBI, the CIA, and local officials was to blame for allowing the 20 highjackers to go unnoticed. Who erected that wall?! None other than Jamie S. Gorelick! That's right the very same Jamie S. Gorelick that helped write the 9/11 Report!! Who appointed her? Bill Clinton! You know one of the most corrupt presidents in the history of the USA. The same Bill Clinton that had eight solid years to do something about the ever growing threat of Islamic extremism but instead was getting hummers from a 21 year old intern in the Oval Office. Shall we list all the acts of Islamic Terror against the USA on his watch? No. It too tedious and long to rehash.

Moonie can stupidly try and blame Bush, but the real facts don't support that at all. Not even close! First he cites the 9/11 Report which spreads the blame around fairly equally. Secondly he cites a Clinton hold over in Richard Clarke! Richard Clarke! Are you fucking kidding me!?!?! LOL! Please! Plus the intel report that he cites from the Smoking Gun is crap plain and simple. Sure it's a real intel report, but taken out of context in the extreme. These reports were merely update reports that even Bill Clinton had read on a weekly basis. While Bubba had 8 years to respond he didn't. He got head from an intern instead. Bush had been in office for eight months. Who the fuck was the president when these Islamic fucks were in flight school?! It wasn't Bush. Say what you want about Bush, as I know that you suffer from BDS. However, the USA has not been hit since 9/11, and on Bush's orders hundreds of thousands of the fuckheads are now dead. Clinton did nothing but get blown.

The only point I'll concede is that Bush has spent money like a drunken sailor on leave, and no, I'm not talking about the war either.



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that may be the most disgusting thing I've seen ever on the internet.And I've seen al ot of crap.....
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Reply #138 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 7:55pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 7:36pm:
that may be the most disgusting thing I've seen ever on the internet.And I've seen al ot of crap.....


Yeah it's pretty sick, but if you actually read what the exhibit is all about he is using the term assasination in a metaphorical context. In other words he's trying to make the case that people are trying assinate Obama's character. Which is kinda funny given the fact that Obama has been given a complete pass from the press for all of his stupid gaffs and insane policy ideas.

The artist is just another in a long line of brain dead drones who can't think for themselves.

And speaking of the Messiah. Looks as if he has once again laid down with another dog that he recently had to throw under the bus along with his "white grandmother", Reverand Wright, Father Phleger, Tony Rezko,and so on, and so on, and so on.....

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=auHZ.1T7m1gw&refer=home


Asked to comment Barrack said, "I am saddened. This is not the James Johnson that I have come to know." Or some such shit to that effect.




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Reply #139 - Jun 11th, 2008 at 8:01pm
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Does O'Bama know anyone well? He's constantly getting let down by those people that he truted & loved. It's sad, no?
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 11th, 2008 at 11:44am:
The man is preaching change, maybe it is he that will change and help our country, no?

You (and Barry O!) are a bit short on specifics, tater.
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for god's sake joey....a mccain presidency will give us 100 more years of war plus no beer....how much clearer can the choice be?
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Does O'Bama know anyone well? He's constantly getting let down by those people that he truted & loved. It's sad, no?


May not be a lot going on between those Dumbo ears.Wait till Rev Al and Jesse get wound up then the poop will fly.Sad its come down to such lame choices on either side when the issues demand truly a leader with impeccable skills.
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After Bush..... Carter looks like a genius......Obama is a fraud and McCain has had 30 years at the public trough....not lookin good

Obama's jobs have been "community activist" & public trough pol. Essentially, the same thing. As for McCain, he's been at the public trough for at least 40 years, yes, even when he was serving his country in Viet Nam. O'Bama isn't half the man that McCain is.
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Does O'Bama know anyone well? He's constantly getting let down by those people that he truted & loved. It's sad, no?


May not be a lot going on between those Dumbo ears.Wait till Rev Al and Jesse get wound up then the poop will fly.Sad its come down to such lame choices on either side when the issues demand truly a leader with impeccable skills.

We have 2 choices this year: another neophyte or a man of considerable experience & depth. Uh, I think I know which one is my choice.
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Does O'Bama know anyone well? He's constantly getting let down by those people that he truted & loved. It's sad, no?


May not be a lot going on between those Dumbo ears.Wait till Rev Al and Jesse get wound up then the poop will fly.Sad its come down to such lame choices on either side when the issues demand truly a leader with impeccable skills.



Could not agree with you more on this instance. We are screwed blue my friend!



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After Bush..... Carter looks like a genius......Obama is a fraud and McCain has had 30 years at the public trough....not lookin good

Obama's jobs have been "community activist" & public trough pol. Essentially, the same thing. As for McCain, he's been at the public trough for at least 40 years, yes, even when he was serving his country in Viet Nam. O'Bama isn't half the man that McCain is.


No Glenny he isnt.But neither is half the man we need now.....
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many here are doomed to repeat the lesson learned too late by Emperor Julian



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OK now

This will be the 3rd election since 1992 with a neophyte versus an exeprienced leader & I'm afraid we might be making the 3rd mistake in a row.
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After Bush..... Carter looks like a genius......Obama is a fraud and McCain has had 30 years at the public trough....not lookin good

Obama's jobs have been "community activist" & public trough pol. Essentially, the same thing. As for McCain, he's been at the public trough for at least 40 years, yes, even when he was serving his country in Viet Nam. O'Bama isn't half the man that McCain is.


No Glenny he isnt.But neither is half the man we need now.....

I preferred McCain in 2000 but Bush beat him. I know he's a bit older now but he's still waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of O'Bama on every level. Even the superficial ones, for Pete's sake.
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