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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 6:27am:
and show 2 also:  http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=199829

Where are the other Dublin shows? Have you gotten them from your taper friend yet, Gazza?



You mean the guy who tapes all the Belfast shows? No, he wasnt there. He doesnt 'travel' to shows like he used to.

I'm sure high quality recordings will surface in due course. Theres also sumoured to be a DVD or two in the works.

Still waiting on Omaha and Fort Lauderdale from the spring leg. Need Ft Lauderdale to complete my 7-CDR(!!) compilation of all the different songs from that leg of the tour, as it was the only show where he played "I Wanna Be With You"
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Let's hope the Ft. Lauderdale show is out there!!! Must have that song too!!Wink  Look forward to your compilation....


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Well I haven't whined in about a week. SO when the hell are they going to make the tour announcement. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Well I haven't whined in about a week. SO when the hell are they going to make the tour announcement. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?

I've been told on numerous occasions..

"Good things come to those who wait" Wink Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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I am afraid I would have to rank the Anaheim Springsteen shows above most recent Stones shows other than maybe the Forum. With the Stones last time it was about how cheap could I get in, can I sneak in, who I can hang out with and how drunk I could get with the music as a backdrop to whatever experiences I could conjur up for myself. Any future shows would only be if I could get in for $40 or less (with the high value of $40 out of respect for their history and not necessarily their current capabilities).
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Garry Tallent: Four Decades Of Bass For The Boss
By Chris Jisi | May, 2008


There’s something wonderfully instinctive about Garry Tallent’s bass playing behind Bruce Springsteen. Navigating the elaborate set list on the current world tour supporting the Boss’s new album, Magic, Tallent melts seamlessly into eighth-note grooves and spreads soil-thick whole-notes beneath ballads.




He’s ever-ready to step forward when the clatter of the E Street Band subsides or an important sub-hook needs stating. As drummer Max Weinberg told Guitar Player in 1988, “Garry gets down low and between the notes, which is a very funky place to be.” After 37 years behind Springsteen, the soft-spoken veteran knows everything about one of America’s greatest rock & roll institutions.

Born in Detroit, Michigan on October 27, 1949, Tallent moved around the South with his parents and six siblings, before the family settled in Neptune City, New Jersey, in 1964. By then Garry had tried flute, clarinet, violin, guitar, tuba, and upright bass, while keeping an ear to early rock & roll. With the British Invasion of self-contained groups underway, bass playing quickly became a commodity in Jersey Shore bands. Garry, who was playing guitar in one local ensemble, borrowed neighbor Southside Johnny Lyon’s Hagstrom bass to join another band. Soon afterward, he bought a Framus Star bass and began relating to the radio rumble of Paul McCartney, Bill Wyman, Chas Chandler, Duck Dunn, and James Jamerson.

Tallent’s true music school, however, was Asbury Park’s legendary Upstage Club, where he teamed with drummer Bobby Williams as the house rhythm section. “It was great on-the-spot training to get up there with an artist you’ve never met and figure out how to entertain for a set,” remembers Garry, who played the club’s Silvertone bass (or a Danelectro he put together while working at the manufacturer’s Neptune City factory). Future bandmates Little Steven Van Zandt, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici became regulars at the club. So did Bruce Springsteen, who started a band with Little Steven on bass; when Steven switched to guitar in January 1971, he recommended Tallent. Within a year, Springsteen’s E Street Band was in place for the recording of his debut, Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

How has the E Street Band changed over the years?
Musically, everyone has gotten better—more adept at their instruments and more knowledgeable. Personally, I’ve pared down my playing over time. When the band gets together, we all play a certain way that we would never play anywhere else. If I played at a Nashville session the way I do with the E Street Band, I’d never be invited back! It’s just a different, more aggressive way of playing. Still, we hadn’t played together for four years, so on the first day of the Magic sessions it took a minute to get back to that place.

Have you changed any classic Springsteen bass parts?
Oh, sure. We have over a hundred songs to draw from. I wouldn’t be able to go back and learn all those bass lines; even if I could, they were just my initial parts in the studio, which often changed a week later when performing them live. There are certain parts that have to be there, but generally I’m playing something different every night. This constant state of evolving is what keeps the band fresh.

What was it like working with bass-playing producer Brendan O’Brien on the last two Springsteen albums?
Well, I had the impression that nobody ever really listens to the bass, which gave me a sort of freedom [laughs]. But Brendan has given me notes and ideas; he’s really hands-on. A good example is “Radio Nowhere” [from Magic]: I was playing with my fingers, resulting in more of a Motown feel, and it wasn’t working for him. I suggested a pick, which gave it the edge he was looking for. That’s a decision I never would have thought to make on my own. Brendan has us record basic tracks first, with myself, Max, Roy [Bittan] on piano, and Bruce on acoustic guitar. It really lets us focus on the rhythm section, and has resulted in the best-sounding record we’ve ever made. Before Brendan, we had always recorded as a band, and the focus would immediately go to overdubs and solos. If I messed up but it was decided to be the best take, I was out of luck. I’ve had to learn more mistakes over the years . . . . [Laughs.]

You sound busier with drummer Vini Lopez on the earlier records than you do on discs with Max.
We were what I would call wild and innocent then, listening to Cream and the Allman Brothers, and throwing everything at the wall to see what would stick. Vini had a naturally busy, loping style, so I was more active to keep up. Plus, I was a bit of a rebel. Producer John Landau was always trying to get me to lock with the bass drum. Even later in Nashville, Steve Earle would tease me, saying, ‘I love your bass lines—you have no regard for what the kick is doing.’ My approach was always to go along with the kick without being married to it, to find my own part in the song.

When Max came into the band, we kind of molded him into the drummer we wanted him to be. We gave him records with everyone from Keith Moon to Roger Hawkins, and he absorbed it all. We’ve created our own way of playing together, with a less-is-more focus that’s second nature.

How do you typically come up with your parts for Bruce’s songs?
Bruce usually introduces a tune by singing and playing it on guitar, so I have complete freedom to come up with a part. I watch his hands, listen, and react; that’s what adds excitement and freshness to the part. My first inclination is often melodic, but the role of the bass is to bridge the rhythm and melody. I figure that my part is there to make the song more reachable; I’ll do whatever it takes to make it feel good, sit right, and get the listener to respond.

What are your favorite Bruce tracks?
As time goes on and I get more distance, I like them all. On the other hand, I’ve always been my own worst critic, so I’m not totally satisfied with any of them. It’s really about the song, not the bass; to me, the better songs had the better bass lines. When pinned, I always name “Point Blank” [from The River]; it’s a very emotional song and it stirred those emotions in me. The bass and Bruce’s voice are the predominant elements of the track, and with a band as big as ours I don’t get to play that role often. I also like “It’s Hard to Be a Saint in New York City” [from The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle]. I’ve been asked about “Hungry Heart”; I kind of heard it as a staccato tuba part when I came up with the bass line. Ultimately, you wind up liking the ones you don’t do as often.

Let’s talk about your technique.
I pluck with two alternating fingers, or sometimes just one. I use a pick about ten percent of the time, if the sound is called for. I’ve also been muting the strings since hearing that way back on Eddie Cochran records. I mute with my left hand and with my right palm, if I’m using a pick. And I like to move my plucking hand between the neck and the bridge to get various tones. When I first got into the studio with Bruce and realized how under the microscope everyone’s playing was, I felt I needed some help with my technique—so in the late ’70s I took some lessons with Jerry Jemmott, who had an ad in the Village Voice. He was great; he gave me right-hand warm-ups and exercises to make my playing even and consistent. From there, I practiced with a VU meter, making sure I could keep the needle in a steady range. But I’m no great technician; I never took to slapping or to 5- or 6-string basses. I did get into fretless after hearing Pino Palladino all over the radio in the ’80s.

What led to your move to Nashville, in 1989?
The E Street Band had just been put on extended hiatus, and my feeling was that rock & roll was stagnating. It seemed like country was poised to take the creative mantle, so I made the move. My friend [guitarist] Kenny Vaughan taught me the ropes and the rules, and got me going on sessions; one of my first was filling in for [Elton John sideman turned session player] Dee Murray, who had become pretty ill by that point. I learned the Number System and worked my way into demo and master sessions. Nashville is an amazing city, chock full of great musicians; on bass alone, that includes talents as diverse as Michael Rhodes, Joey Spampinato, and the late, great Roy Huskey Jr., all of whom I became close with. I initially told my family we’d give it five years, and we ended up staying for 18.

How did Nashville tie into your producing career?
That actually started in New Jersey; I was always fascinated by recording, so I put together a studio in the mid ’80s and began by engineering sessions for bands. Before long, I was working on the arrangements, too, and that led to producing. When I got to Nashville I only produced pet projects that were outside the norm, like rock-edged records by the Delevantes, Kevin Gordon, and Dwayne Jarvis, or Greg Trooper, whose album hit No. 1 on the newly formed Americana chart. I enjoyed being on the other side of the glass and I still do, but it never replaced playing for me.

What lies ahead?
The tour with Bruce goes through the summer. We have another album’s worth of material recorded, but no word yet on a release or future tours. Since moving to Montana two years ago I’ve been hired to do some bass tracks via the Internet, although it’s not my favorite way to work. But life is good; I’ve had a blessed career. My lone regret is not having had more serious musical training. I’m trying to do that now, playing more piano and guitar and studying theory. If I had to offer one bit of advice, it would be to take advantage of the many resources out there and learn everything you can about music. It will help you to become the best you can be.

Other Bass Tallents: Garry's Personal Pantheon
James Jamerson “There’s James and then there’s everybody else. When I was doing my track for Allan Slutsky’s Standing in the Shadows of Motown book, he sent me a cassette with a lot of the other guest bassists playing Jamerson lines. I kept it in the car, and my wife, who is not a musician, would drive around totally digging on it—no vocals, just bass! That shows you how engaging his playing was.”

Jaco Pastorius “Jaco was a musical genius. We became close and hung out a bunch of times. One night we were at the Lone Star in the Village, watching Jerry Lee Lewis. Jerry decided he wanted to play guitar, so Jaco went over to the piano and I got on bass and we played for quite a while. It broke my heart when he died; he was such a sweet guy.”

Rick Danko “In Nashville, I was in a five-piece rhythm section called the Long Players. We would learn a classic album start to finish, and then hire singers and go to a club to perform it one time only. We did over 20 albums, from the Beatles and Stones to Van Morrison and the Who. The biggest surprise was learning Rick Danko’s parts with The Band. I’d always loved him, but I thought of him mainly as a singer. Well, he was a fantastic bassist, from his note choices to where he put them.”

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Basses with the Boss Spector NS-2J custom short-scale (main bass); ’07 Gretsch Thunder Jet; fretless ’65 Guild Starfire; ’60s Guild M-85; e-size unknown 19th-century German upright

Basses on Magic ’63 Fender Jazz Bass, ’63 Fender Precision Bass with flats, Jerry Jones Longhorn, Brendan O’Brien’s ’64 P-Bass

Strings Pyramid Gold nickel flats, La Bella 0760M “Jamerson” flatwounds

Picks Dunlop Jazz 3XL, felt ukulele pick

Live Shure UHF M4 wireless from each bass into Ashly LX-308B line mixer, then Radial J48 DI to sound system, monitored through Sennheiser wireless in-ear monitors; Hartke HA4000 head and 4200 Professional Series cabinet (used for soundcheck and as monitoring backup to in-ears, but turned off for shows)

Studio Aguilar DB 680 tube preamp, Demeter SSC-1 Silent Cabinet (1x12), Ampeg B-15S 60-watt combo amp

Selected Discography
With Bruce Springsteen (all on Columbia)
Magic
The Rising
Tracks
Ghost of Tom Joad
Tunnel of Love
Live/1975–85
Born in the U.S.A.
The River
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Born to Run
The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle
Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J

With Little Steven & the Disciples of Soul
Men Without Women, EMI

With Southside Johnny & the Asbury Jukes
Messin’ With the Blues, Leroy
Better Days, Impact

With Steve Forbert
Mission of the Crossroad Palms, Giant

With Ian Hunter
You’re Never Alone With a Schizophrenic, Razor and Tie

With Gary U.S. Bonds
Dedication/On the Line, Gott Discs

With Emmylou Harris
Brand New Dance, Reprise

With Delevantes
Long About That Time, Rounder

With Randy Scruggs (and Johnny Cash)
Crown of Jewels, Warner Bros

With Steve Earle
I Feel Alright, Warner Bros

With Billy Joe Shaver
The Earth Rolls On, New West

With Robert Earl Keen Jr.
A Bigger Piece of the Sky, Sugar Hill

With Sonny Burgess
Sonny Burgess, Rounder

With Paul Burlison
Train Kept a-Rollin’, Sweetfish

With Solomon Burke
Nashville, Shout Factory

With P.F. Sloan
Sailover, Hightone

With Sass Jordan
Get What You Give, Horizon

With Jim Lauderdale
Honey Songs, Yep Roc

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Very interesting read. Thanks Gazza. I didn't know he played on Your Never Alone With A Schizophrenic. I love that album.
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 7th, 2008 at 4:20pm:
Very interesting read. Thanks Gazza. I didn't know he played on Your Never Alone With A Schizophrenic. I love that album.



"Bastard" is a fine song!
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 8:42am:
Let's hope the Ft. Lauderdale show is out there!!! Must have that song too!!Wink  Look forward to your compilation....


Meanwhile....

Hell Yes!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRgIa1hsgrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD52H5nSXsk



Well I finally got around to watching these. Good shit. I haven't heard Downbound Train in ages. I forgot what a good song that is. Like a lot of people I "discovered" Bruce when BITUSA came out.  Then I got the 1975-1985 live album and truly fell in love with his music....Now if we can just get a.....
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Dublin "Girls" with the beer toast....

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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 12:21pm:
Well I haven't whined in about a week. SO when the hell are they going to make the tour announcement. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?



According to someone 'in the know' on one of the Bruce forums, "by the end of this week"
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I can feel it in my bones Gaz!!!....And I also read the same thing. Wink
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Ade..there is a DVD of Emirates (2nd nite unfortunately)

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I am predicticting a tour announcement on fri.....Me and a few million other people. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Same poster at btx that broke the Fall tour sched now says it's off - last show is Harleyfest in Milwaukee.

Disappointing if true...
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Here's the post (and I've seen a post from a normally very solid source on GL who says that 'any news about the fall tour wil be bad news' )


I was right about the plans for the fall tour.

Now I have more news, some good, some bad.

The good news is that at least one stadium show will be added in Philadelphia after the Gillette Stadium show.

The bad news is that the fall tour is off. Due to a combination of health reasons and recording plans, the Milwaukee show will be the end of the tour.

I expect a couple dozen people will post that they’ll "believe this when there is an announcement." Obviously, there has to be an announcement for Philly. I don’t know whether it will say anything like "these will be the final dates announced for the Magic tour." But I’m right about this too.

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Ade..there is a DVD of Emirates (2nd nite unfortunately)

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Here is the word from Backstreets.com: Sad

News updated June 13, 2008

EASY COME, EASY GO...
Remember that tentative fall leg that was in the works a couple weeks ago? It's no longer in the works. Several sources have confirmed that the plan has now been scrapped. We're looking at a good chance for more dates to be added in August, but right now it appears the August 30 show in Milwaukee stands as the final performance of the Magic tour.


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'From Small Things' opener tonight. Grin

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Bruce continues to mix it up! Cool
Two week break and this is what Cardiff gets...


1. From Small Things (Big Things One Day Come) !!
02. 10th Avenue
03. Radio Nowhere
04. No Surrender
05. Lonesome day
06. Promised Land
07. Blinded by the light (For Danny)
08. Magic
09. Atlantic city
10. The river
11. Gypsy Biker
12. Darlington County
13. Because the night
14. She´s the one
15. Livin in the future
16. Mary´s place
17. Working on the highway
18. Devils arcade
19. The rising
20. Last to die
21. Long walk home
22. Badlands

23. Jungleland
4. Thunder road
25. Born to run
26. Rosalita
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First time he's played that this tour and the first time its ever been played outside the US (its only been played at club shows before - apart from just two appearances on the 2003 US stadium tour)

Tonight is his first ever show in Wales. He left that song off "The River" but gave it to Dave Edmunds backstage at wembley in 1981 (my first Bruce show). Dave is from Cardiff. A nice gesture to open with it tonight.
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #473 - Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:52pm
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I wasn't sue whether to post this here or the RIP thread. But I read this on Backstreets. So this seems like the appropriate place for it.

A "TRANSFORMATIVE JOURNALIST" -- AND BRUCE FAN -- PASSES ON
I'm still shocked by the news of Tim Russert's death yesterday; as a Sunday morning is about to dawn without the esteemed Meet the Press moderator there to be part of the day, I feel like a word here is in order. Well known to be a huge Springsteen fan (along with his NBC compatriot Brian Williams), Russert told Jon Friedman in a 2007 interview that his "dream 'get'" for an interview was none other than Bruce:

"I'm very intrigued by him," Russert said. "He has a real understanding of the political dialogue, of faith and life in urban America."

Russert already has a connection to "the Boss." "I booked concerts for John Carroll [University] in Cleveland," Russert recalled. "We paid $2,500 to book him on a Tuesday night in February 1974."

Aside from the indelible mental snapshot of seeing a brilliant performer 18 months before he made it big, Russert cherishes the memory for a more practical reason: "I made enough money to pay for my second year of law school."

He said he told Springsteen the story once when he ran into him at a New York City restaurant. Springsteen laughed and said, "That sounds like one of my songs."...

I asked Russert if he had reached out to Springsteen to request an interview. He shook his head, as if he was unworthy of the meeting. It was reassuring to see that even Tim "No Surrender" Russert, the scourge of Washington, could act a little overwhelmed by someone.

Also check out this New York Times blog entry about Bruce's September 2007 Today show performance, when Russert remarked, "I'm just an opening act for the Boss today," and Bruce gave a shout-out to the newsman's haircut.

Russert was married to Maureen Orth, author of the famous 1975 Newsweek cover story on Springsteen, "Making of a Rock Star." Our sympathies are with her and their familiy.

Yesterday, Tom Brokaw called Russert "one of the premiere political analyists and journalists of his time." Walter Cronkite wrote: "a giant in our field -- a standard-bearer of journalistic integrity and ethics." Carl Bernstein: "Tim Russert was a transformative journalist." And yet -- maybe just from knowing how "Born to Run" got his heart pumping, too -- he also felt like one of us. Tim, you'll be missed.
-June 14, 2008
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #474 - Jun 15th, 2008 at 12:49am
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sounds like Cardiff got a great show  Smiley
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