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platter Ex Member	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2375 - May 25^th, 2009 at 8:35pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 25^th, 2009 at 8:27pm: Quote: johnny 99 is ment to be played slow.... Um, the original 'Nebraska' version isn't "slow". its hardly electric either.
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left shoe shuffle Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 4,141	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2376 - May 25^th, 2009 at 8:41pm Quote: left shoe shuffle wrote on May 25^th, 2009 at 8:27pm: Quote: johnny 99 is ment to be played slow.... Um, the original 'Nebraska' version isn't "slow". its hardly electric either. Fact. But instrumentation and tempo are two completely different things...
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Nellcote Rocks Off Regular Offline So, what's your point? Posts: 2,922 Funifuti	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2377 - May 25^th, 2009 at 10:55pm If the artist who wrote the songs decides to interpret said songs in his way, I'd think he has that right.
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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2378 - May 26^th, 2009 at 3:42am

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left shoe shuffle wrote on May 24^th, 2009 at 5:51pm:

Couple more from last night - direct from the in house video feed.

'Johnny 99'

'Mony Mony'

wtf is up with this guy? bruce is making johnny 99 sound like a fucking pop song. horrible. he should perform it like he did during the live '75-'85 session. a good true song and i love it but this version does NOT work for me. he has lost his sentimental value and is cashing in all for the sake of fist pumping. i wouldn't pay a jackson to see him, nor a hamilton. now this guy is going to fly over the pond and charge you euros pay for that.....?

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Wake up call - it's not 1985 anymore.

As you arent going to any shows, why the hell should it bother you so much?

First pumping, my arse. He's been reworking that song for a decade. If he was so bothered about cashing in, he'd have done an E Street Band tour every time out. (If you'd heard the seeger sessions version of it, you'd have had a tumour).

Works for me. Although the cajun-style version he did at Shea Stadium in 2003 beats the lot of them.

don't tell me what day it is mister. it doesn't matter if i see a show or not i can watch it right here on u tube and get the jist of it.

you have no idea how much it costs to live along the jersy shore. no idea. that cocksucker has ...oh nevermind.

get a clue....all bruce shows are about standing up and fist pumping....thats how he makes tons of money........................3/4ths of it is all hype, don't believe the hype gazza. don't believe it maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. i can see you are going to pay good money to see the same show you saw last year. to each his own i guess.

the version i was talking about is a bullshit version...............it sucks. johnny 99 is ment to be played like keith richards played you got the silver in shine a light.

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Are you fucking serious?

Don't tell me to 'get a clue'.

As you havent seen him in concert for over 20 years, I'll obviously defer to your superior judgement as to what a Springsteen concert experience is all about. Even when I went to all those solo shows, I'm stunned by how I missed that it's so obvously all about 'fist pumping', whatever that is.

And a song isn't 'meant' to be played in any fixed way - it's up to the artist to do what the hell he wants with it (which most fans seem happy enough with). Not someone on a message board who doesnt even go to the shows anyway and whose idea of a concert is watching a crappy clip on youtube.

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PartyDoll MEG Rocks Off Regular Offline Just one drink from your lovin' cup Posts: 3,127	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2379 - May 26^th, 2009 at 4:58am I see I missed a "discussion" on the finer side of artistry. Everyone should reinvent themselves..it keeps life from becoming stale... Off to he mines. Today I am a ballerina....
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left shoe shuffle Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 4,141	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2380 - May 27^th, 2009 at 11:46am Matrix recording (IEM/Audience) of the 4.16 LA show is up at Jungleland. Good stuff...
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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2381 - May 30^th, 2009 at 4:07pm

Pinkpop (what a name for a festival):

1. Badlands
2. Out In The Street
3. She's The One
4. Outlaw Pete
5. Radio Nowhere
6. Working On A Dream
7. Seeds
8. Johnny 99
9. The Ghost of Tom Joad
collecting requests
10. Raise Your Hand
11. FROM SMALL THINGS (BIG THINGS ONE DAY COME) (request - for Dave Edmonds)
12. Trapped (request)
13. I'm On Fire (request)
14. Thunder Road (w/Brandon from The Killers)
15. Waitin' On A Sunny Day
16. The Promised Land
17. Lonesome Day
18. The Rising
19. Born To Run

20. 10th Ave Freeze Out
21. Land Of Hope & Dreams
22. American Land
23. Glory Days
24. Dancing In The Dark

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PartyDoll MEG Rocks Off Regular Offline Just one drink from your lovin' cup Posts: 3,127	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2382 - May 31^st, 2009 at 8:09am Don't think Brandon knew Thunder Road very well. But I sure would have loved to seen it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVOHI88l6Y8
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platter Ex Member	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2383 - May 31^st, 2009 at 8:29am good version. where is this pinkpop place anyway?
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Gazza Unholy Trinity Admin Offline Rat Bastid "We piss anywhere, man.." Posts: 13,231 Belfast, UK Gender:	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2384 - May 31^st, 2009 at 11:02am Netherlands. "Pinkpop" isn't the name of a place, it's just the name of the festival (it takes place on Pentecost weekend every year - hence the name, as Pinksteren is Dutch for Pentecost) it's held in Landgraaf. The Stones have played the festival site before, although not the festival itself.
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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2385 - May 31^st, 2009 at 1:35pm

Gazza wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 11:02am:

Netherlands.

"Pinkpop" isn't the name of a place, it's just the name of the festival (it takes place on Pentecost weekend every year - hence the name, as Pinksteren is Dutch for Pentecost)

it's held in Landgraaf. The Stones have played the festival site before, although not the festival itself.

Gazza,their is a lot of pissing and moaning(like usual) on BTX about Bruce not allowing his set to be streamed live from Pinkpop yesterday. As well as speculation as to whether or not Landau and Co. will allow Bruce's show at Glastonbury to be shown live. What do you think?

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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2386 - May 31^st, 2009 at 1:51pm

Gazza wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 11:02am:

Netherlands.

"Pinkpop" isn't the name of a place, it's just the name of the festival (it takes place on Pentecost weekend every year - hence the name, as Pinksteren is Dutch for Pentecost)

it's held in Landgraaf. The Stones have played the festival site before, although not the festival itself.

i'm suprised... there seemed to be a lot of folks crooning in eaglish along with bruce. don't tell the language is english there

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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2387 - May 31^st, 2009 at 4:34pm

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Netherlands.

"Pinkpop" isn't the name of a place, it's just the name of the festival (it takes place on Pentecost weekend every year - hence the name, as Pinksteren is Dutch for Pentecost)

it's held in Landgraaf. The Stones have played the festival site before, although not the festival itself.

i'm suprised... there seemed to be a lot of folks crooning in eaglish along with bruce. don't tell the language is english there

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Fans sing along at Springsteen concerts all over Europe. As they do with the Stones or any English-speaking artist they like. And pretty much everyone in Holland speaks very good English.

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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2388 - May 31^st, 2009 at 4:39pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 1:35pm:

Gazza wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 11:02am:

Netherlands.

"Pinkpop" isn't the name of a place, it's just the name of the festival (it takes place on Pentecost weekend every year - hence the name, as Pinksteren is Dutch for Pentecost)

it's held in Landgraaf. The Stones have played the festival site before, although not the festival itself.

Gazza,their is a lot of pissing and moaning(like usual) on BTX about Bruce not allowing his set to be streamed live from Pinkpop yesterday. As well as speculation as to whether or not Landau and Co. will allow Bruce's show at Glastonbury to be shown live. What do you think?

As it's been a huge surprise (and has pissed a lot of people off) that his UK visit this year is only two festival dates (one of which the tickets were sold for before he was officially announced as headliner - ie, Glasto) and one stand-alone concert (Glasgow), I would be absolutely amazed and pretty disgusted if they pull a stunt like that for Glastonbury, although some artists have done that in the past (Dylan, Cohen etc). Last year he played to 220,000 people in the UK. This year the only shows his fanbase can buy tickets for were Hyde Park and Glasgow (under 100,000 tickets in total). The whole point of them finally agreeing to play festivals is to reach a new audience. Seems a bit idiotic to make a decision that would do exactly the opposite.

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Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a
Reply #2390 - May 31^st, 2009 at 4:50pm

Factory Girl wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 4:40pm:

Yet, very few Americans bother to learn another language. Recently, Spanish has been the slight exception.

Brits don't either, in fairness. A combination of an island mentality plus an arrogance that English-speakers have because of how widely spoken the language is. People in other countries put us all to shame. I remember phoning a friend of mine in Sweden a few years ago, and his daughter answered. Her English was so perfect she even spoke it with an accent which would have made you think she WAS English. After a 5 minute conversation in flawless English, she passed the phone to her dad - who amazed me by telling me that she was only nine years old. She'd picked up most of her ability to learn English by watching TV.

The ability of fans to appreciate the lyrics of someone who sings in a foreign language is something that is greatly under appreciated, I think.

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platter Ex Member	Re: Anything Springsteen on RO... Part 4a Reply #2391 - May 31^st, 2009 at 5:23pm i guess europe is changing in that more and more people are speaking in english. not that i have been all over europe or anything but, when i was in france back in 83 it seemed no one spoke a lick of english. i did a lot of pointing...if you know what i mean.
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Reply #2392 - May 31^st, 2009 at 5:51pm

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i guess europe is changing in that more and more people are speaking in english. not that i have been all over europe or anything but, when i was in france back in 83 it seemed no one spoke a lick of english. i did a lot of pointing...if you know what i mean.

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Yes, it has - although you'll also find that more people will suddenly know a bit more English if you at least make the attempt to learn a few words in their language first. Going abroad and expecting the locals to speak your language doesn't tend to go down too well.

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Reply #2393 - May 31^st, 2009 at 6:18pm

I think that Rest of the World has historically looked up to US (for its culture and former superpower status), and wanted to emulate all things American. Speaking the same language as Americans was a large part of this emulation.

More recently, US has a become multicultural nation where English is not always the primary language. With this change, American culture has also evolved. Also, with US fighting two unpopular wars, the ROW has lost its fascination with it.

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Reply #2394 - May 31^st, 2009 at 6:25pm

Gazza wrote on May 31^st, 2009 at 5:51pm:

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i guess europe is changing in that more and more people are speaking in english. not that i have been all over europe or anything but, when i was in france back in 83 it seemed no one spoke a lick of english. i did a lot of pointing...if you know what i mean.

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Yes, it has - although you'll also find that more people will suddenly know a bit more English if you at least make the attempt to learn a few words in their language first. Going abroad and expecting the locals to speak your language doesn't tend to go down too well.

welsh has got to be one of the most difficult languages ever. when i was there, up in anglsey [gogarth area] rock climbing several years ago some people would speak to me and i would be like, SAY WHAT? SPEAK ENGLISH WILL YA.

it would be interesting to hear someone sing born to run in welsh.

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Reply #2396 - Jun 1^st, 2009 at 3:28am

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=251730

Bruce Springsteen & E Street Band Pinkpop 2009
Info hash 7700580e2a140726c3310b35c136cd6833df144d
Description BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Live at Pinkpop Holland 2009-05-30 PAL DVD Proshot DVB Recording only 3 songs allowed for broadcast

Broadcasted by Ned 3 on 2009-05-31

Songlist :

1 Badlands
2 Working on a Dream
3 Born to run

No Menu

Totaltime 17m18s

Lineage Humax iPVR9200C DVB-C Harddisk receiver >
USB>PC /Videoredo 3

Video:
MPEG2/Pal/16:9/720x576/7386kbps/PQ per Frame 0.730

Audio:
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Reply #2399 - Jun 1^st, 2009 at 3:26pm

Yay! Tickets for BRUCE's last 3 shows at Giants Stadium went on sale today ~ the dates are Sept 30, Oct 2 & Oct 3. The 3rd is sold out but there are still a few tickets left for the other 2 shows! I got a single for the middle date, there were NO General Admission tickets left by the time I logged in, those sold out in seconds. After the politicians made such a big deal out of the TM scam last time BRUCE tickets went on sale, this time there was no automatic link to the higher-priced tickets. Cool. Something actually worked to improve the system!

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