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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1850 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 11:36pm
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GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 10:34pm:
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:21am:
Your not on BTX if your reading that people love everything that Bruce does. Those people whine more than Stones fans.

First, it's "you're" when you're contracting you & are. Gabeesh? You're old enough to know that by now. Second, I haven't been there lately. There's enough BS-loving here. LOL


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Let's hope the crap they did over these Springsteen tix will be eliminated by teh time the worthier Stones tix go on sale.

That would be THE. Gabeesh? You're old enough to know that by now. Smiley


You're BOTH wrong. It's "capisce," not "gabeesh." Capisce?


LOL I always make THAT mistake!
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1851 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:14am
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LOL...hey, I referred to Springsteen's new song "The Boxer" twice in a post last week.
We're all bozos on this bus!

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Reply #1852 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 6:39am
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GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:14am:
LOL...hey, I referred to Springsteen's new song "The Boxer" twice in a post last week.
We're all bozos on this bus!


"Bozos on the bus" Grin Grin


Sounds like a good song title or poem, GTRM!!
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1853 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:09am
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 6:39am:
GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:14am:
LOL...hey, I referred to Springsteen's new song "The Boxer" twice in a post last week.
We're all bozos on this bus!


"Bozos on the bus" Grin Grin

Sounds like a good song title or poem, GTRM!!


Obscure reference lost on younger (and some older) posters!

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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1854 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:54am
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GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:09am:
PartyDoll MEG wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 6:39am:
GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:14am:
LOL...hey, I referred to Springsteen's new song "The Boxer" twice in a post last week.
We're all bozos on this bus!


"Bozos on the bus" Grin Grin

Sounds like a good song title or poem, GTRM!!


Obscure reference lost on younger (and some older) posters!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Think_We're_All_Bozos_on_This_Bus





Afraid this one passed me by, GTRM Wink...

I've lived a sheltered life ya know....
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Reply #1855 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:08am
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Why do I sense that our fiery redhead GTRM had something to do with this:

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – A New Jersey congressman is demanding an investigation after Bruce Springsteen fans were unable to buy tickets from Ticketmaster's Web site — which then promptly offered them more expensive tickets from a subsidiary.

U.S. Rep. Bill Pascrell of Paterson wants the Federal Trade Commission and Justice Department to investigate possible conflicts of interest involving Ticketmaster and a ticket reseller it owns, TicketsNow.

When tickets for Springsteen's Meadowlands show went on sale Monday, some fans got an error message on their computer screen that shut them out from buying tickets. A TicketsNow ad offered tickets for hundreds of dollars more than face value.

A Ticketmaster spokesman says only a few fans reported problems
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1856 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:58am
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LJ.....does our fiery redhead friend know that we still cannot read his/her posts?
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1857 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:02pm
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Starbuck wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:58am:
LJ.....does our fiery redhead friend know that we still cannot read his/her posts?


What are you talking about??
Don't tell me most of you still have RO in black/yellow?

Use the "forum default" template...it's much easier to read everything.

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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1858 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 4:02pm
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From the BTX News Page....

WE PERCEIVE THIS AS A PURE CONFLICT OF INTEREST"
Springsteen organization "furious" at "the abuse of our fans and our trust"
We are not alone. In a letter to fans issued this afternoon, Bruce Springsteen, Jon Landau and the entire Tour Team condemn ticket up-selling, call Ticketmaster's TicketsNow redirection "a pure conflict of interest," describe actions they've taken, and warn of a potential Live Nation/Ticketmaster monopoly.
A Letter to Our Fans:

We know there was much confusion regarding Ticketmaster and TicketsNow during last Monday's on-sale dates. We were as confused as you were, as we were given no advance notice of the major changes in the Ticketmaster-TicketsNow world. (Bear in mind that we are not clients of any ticketing company, and that all those arrangements are between venues and ticketing companies.)

Last Monday, we were informed that Ticketmaster was redirecting your log-in requests for tickets at face value, to their secondary site TicketsNow, which specializes in up-selling tickets at above face value. They did this even when other seats remained available at face value. We condemn this practice.

We perceive this as a pure conflict of interest. Ticketmaster is there to ensure that we have a good, fair sale of our tickets at their face value plus normal ticketing charges. TicketsNow is supposed to be a secondary site where people who already have tickets may exchange, trade, and, unfortunately, speculate with them. We have asked this redirection from Ticketmaster to TicketsNow cease and desist immediately and Ticketmaster has agreed to do so in the future and has removed its unwanted material from their and our site.

We know the many cynical arguments some make in favor of the Ticketmaster system: There are rumors that some artists or managers participate in Ticketmaster charges--we do not. There are rumors that some artists or managers are receiving a percentage of the amount above face value at secondary outlets like TicketsNow--we do not. Some artists or managers may not perceive there to be a conflict between having the distributor of their tickets in effect "scalping" those same tickets through a secondary company like TicketsNow--we do.

While many of you have sent notes to us and your local promoters, you may also send accurate informational letters to Albert Lopez of Ticketmaster [[email protected]] and he will try to address your questions.

A final point for now: the one thing that would make the current ticket situation even worse for the fan than it is now would be Ticketmaster and Live Nation coming up with a single system, thereby returning us to a near monopoly situation in music ticketing. Several newspapers are reporting on this story right now. If you, like us, oppose that idea, you should make it known to your representatives.

The abuse of our fans and our trust by Ticketmaster has made us as furious as it has made many of you. We will continue to do our utmost now and in the future to make sure that these practices are permanently curtailed on our tours.

Bruce Springsteen, Jon Landau and the entire Springsteen Tour Team
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1859 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 5:24pm
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Joey wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 4:42pm:



Joey,have you ever been Bosscocked? Wow!
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Reply #1860 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 6:48pm
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I call do over!
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Reply #1861 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:02pm
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I call do over!


Hear, hear!
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Reply #1862 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:09pm
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Starbuck wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:58am:
LJ.....does our fiery redhead friend know that we still cannot read his/her posts?


Ah fuck. I use the default template AND type in solid black because it's easier for me to read. I'll type in default grey and hopefully that'll help. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Re: Anything Springsteen  on RO... Part 4a
Reply #1863 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:17pm
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Response from Irving Azoff. Chairman of Ticketmaster. Also a former (if not current) greedy bastard r&r manager:

Ticketmaster CEO Responds To The Boss

Posted on Wednesday February 4, 2009 at 06:07 PM Add |

Bruce Springsteen posted an open letter on his Web site today criticizing Ticketmaster for how the ticket service handled his initial onsales earlier this week. Now, Irving Azoff, CEO of Ticketmaster Entertainment, responds.

An Open Letter of Apology to Bruce Springsteen, Jon Landau and the entire Springsteen Tour Team:

While we were genuinely trying to do the right thing for fans in providing more choices when the tickets they requested from the primary on-sale were not available, we clearly missed the mark. Fans are confused and angry, which is the opposite of what we hoped to accomplish. We sincerely apologize to Bruce, his organization and, above all, his fans.

We recognize that we need to change our course. We have committed to Bruce and state publicly here that we have taken down all links for Bruce's shows directing fans from Ticketmaster to TicketsNow. This redirection only occurred as a choice when we could not satisfy fans' specific search request for primary ticket inventory, but to make sure there is no misunderstanding in the future, we also publicly state that we will never again link to TicketsNow in a manner that can possibly create any confusion during a high-demand on-sale. Specifically, we will not present an option to go to TicketsNow from Ticketmaster without the consent of the artist and the venue, both of whom work together to bring the joy of live entertainment to millions of fans.

If any fans inadvertently purchased tickets in the resale marketplace believing in error they were purchasing from the initial on-sale, we will refund the difference between the actual purchase price and the face price of the ticket. (Please don't abuse this good faith gesture - we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets.)

We are committed to helping deliver the most transparent and best live entertainment experience to fans. We will do better going forward.

Sincerely,

Irving Azoff, CEO, Ticketmaster Entertainment
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Reply #1864 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:20pm
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Reply #1865 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:25pm
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TM says they only got a few complaints, and I was among the many who didnt file a formal complaint because I didnt think it would do any good! If there is a place to direct this complaint, please post it here if anyone has any ideas on how to get the word in thru the proper channels. Also it was good of Bruce to apologize but he didnt offer the fans tickets, did he? I tried all day yesterday and again today, and still could not pull a single ticket for 3 different shows.  So if Bruce is concerned he should help the fans secure tickets. In a BIG way I appreciate RS.com's presale. Its worth the $100 just to know you will get a shot at good tickets before the general public sale. I always felt calmer knowing I had a passcode. sigh of relief. Maybe Bruce needs to set up ticket presales for the fans now that he is aware it's a problem.
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Reply #1866 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:38pm
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Bitch wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:25pm:
TM says they only got a few complaints, and I was among the many who didnt file a formal complaint because I didnt think it would do any good! If there is a place to direct this complaint, please post it here if anyone has any ideas on how to get the word in thru the proper channels. Also it was good of Bruce to apologize but he didnt offer the fans tickets, did he? I tried all day yesterday and again today, and still could not pull a single ticket for 3 different shows.  So if Bruce is concerned he should help the fans secure tickets. In a BIG way I appreciate RS.com's presale. Its worth the $100 just to know you will get a shot at good tickets before the general public sale. I always felt calmer knowing I had a passcode. sigh of relief. Maybe Bruce needs to set up ticket presales for the fans now that he is aware it's a problem.



Hey Bitch. Don't know if it will do any good. But here is one place you can direct your complaint.:

While many of you have sent notes to us and your local promoters, you may also send accurate informational letters to Albert Lopez of Ticketmaster [[email protected]] and he will try to address your questions.
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Reply #1867 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:42pm
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IMO, presales aren't a panacea.
There's a limited amount of tickets made available, and they're not always the best seats.

As for rs.com and their $100 vigorish - no thanks.
Face value of a Stones ticket is high enough.

Plenty of acts - Dylan and Neil Young for example - offer free presale passwords to their fans.


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Reply #1868 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:01pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:38pm:
While many of you have sent notes to us and your local promoters, you may also send accurate informational letters to Albert Lopez of Ticketmaster [[email protected]] and he will try to address your questions.


Bruce Inc. isn't above the fray here.
They've long held back some of the best seats, only to release them later.

A full audit of ticket distribution might be warranted, and could prove enlightening - and embarrassing.
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Reply #1869 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:21pm
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Reply #1870 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:22pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:38pm:
While many of you have sent notes to us and your local promoters, you may also send accurate informational letters to Albert Lopez of Ticketmaster [[email protected]] and he will try to address your questions.


Bruce Inc. isn't above the fray here.
They've long held back some of the best seats, only to release them later.

A full audit of ticket distribution might be warranted, and could prove enlightening - and embarrassing.


Yeah,your right. Landau is looking all too much like Cohl these days. The decision to put virtually all NA tix on sale at the same time was absolutley idiotic. They haven't struggled to sell tickets that much. Factor in the  delay of the tour announcement and the bizarre tour schedule. You'd think you were dealing with a bunch of amateaurs. Rather than a well heeled rock and roll machine.
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Reply #1871 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:32pm
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More embarrassing than Sunday night?


Based on Monday's ticket sales somebody must've liked it.


Or did they?  Huh
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Reply #1872 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:38pm
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They haven't struggled to sell tickets that much.


Yes they have.

I'm not living in a Bruce vacuum.
There were plenty of empty seats on the last tour.

Mondo tarpage was evident in Columbus.
And hell, GA tix for Nashville were available weeks after they went on sale...
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Reply #1873 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:34pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:22pm:
They haven't struggled to sell tickets that much.


Yes they have.

I'm not living in a Bruce vacuum.
There were plenty of empty seats on the last tour.

Mondo tarpage was evident in Columbus.
And hell, GA tix for Nashville were available weeks after they went on sale...



So why the demand now Leftie? ...Is it real, imagined. or contrived?
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Reply #1874 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:20am
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TM says they only got a few complaints, and I was among the many who didnt file a formal complaint because I didnt think it would do any good! If there is a place to direct this complaint, please post it here if anyone has any ideas on how to get the word in thru the proper channels. Also it was good of Bruce to apologize but he didnt offer the fans tickets, did he? I tried all day yesterday and again today, and still could not pull a single ticket for 3 different shows.  So if Bruce is concerned he should help the fans secure tickets. In a BIG way I appreciate RS.com's presale. Its worth the $100 just to know you will get a shot at good tickets before the general public sale. I always felt calmer knowing I had a passcode. sigh of relief. Maybe Bruce needs to set up ticket presales for the fans now that he is aware it's a problem.



It isnt worth $100 (an amount which is MORE than what most acts charge for a front row seat) and is even more outrageous when you consider that you do NOT always get a 'shot' at the best tickets. The 02 shows in 2007 being a prime example when ALL the seats in the front ten rows were either siphoned off to brokers or held for FanAsylum (where people were paying ten times for a package the face value of a ticket)

How's that fan club DVD, by the way?

As said above, some artists give their fans FREE presale passcodes. Bruce should certainly have SOME kind of system in place by now (even if it meant one with a small fee), but I cant think of a worse model than the scam that the Stones use.

U2 had a good one on their last tour as I recall (and it was something like £20), although even it had initial teething issues which led to Larry Mullen e-mailing fan club members with an apology for any problems it had caused.
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