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Message started by Gazza on Jul 18th, 2018 at 4:28pm

Title: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Gazza on Jul 18th, 2018 at 4:28pm
Great piece on Stu by Paul Trynka from a few years ago

http://trynka.net/2014/11/one-more-under-the-bus-ian-stewart/

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Gazza on Jul 18th, 2018 at 4:29pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNHg_rJrD8g

Interview by Alexis Korner, 'The Rolling Stones Story', BBC Radio 1, 1973

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by mojoman on Jul 18th, 2018 at 7:28pm
happy birthday!!

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by CS on Jul 18th, 2018 at 7:33pm
Stu was the happiest of the Stones!

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by andrews27 on Jul 18th, 2018 at 8:51pm
Stu had a defiant unibrow!  Anathema to Oldham.

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by The Wick on Jul 19th, 2018 at 3:43am
You would think the Stones would have something on their various public platforms. I haven't seen anything yet. Would be nice.

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Voodoo Child in Wonderland on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:41am

The Wick wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 3:43am:
You would think the Stones would have something on their various public platforms. I haven't seen anything yet. Would be nice.


According to Andrew Loog Oldham the stones fired him. I asked him why he fired Stu back in June 2001 and this is what he answered me

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."

Andrew Loog Oldham June 2001



More here http://www.rocksoff.org/ian-stuontheroad.htm

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Voodoo Child in Wonderland on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:43am
As an additional read, this a Lisa Robinson interview (Creem Magazine 1976) as I posted here in Rocks Off in 2004

http://www.rocksoff.org/Archives/12-24-2004/206121-1.html

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by gimmekeef on Jul 19th, 2018 at 9:58am
A huge part of their success on every level.

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by The Wick on Jul 19th, 2018 at 10:39am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:41am:

The Wick wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 3:43am:
You would think the Stones would have something on their various public platforms. I haven't seen anything yet. Would be nice.


According to Andrew Loog Oldham the stones fired him. I asked him why he fired Stu back in June 2001 and this is what he answered me

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."

Andrew Loog Oldham June 2001



More here http://www.rocksoff.org/ian-stuontheroad.htm


Wow, thanks Voodoo. This info is why this is the best Stones site.

I should rephrase: "Why would the Stones say anything on their various public platforms."

Andrew Oldham does seem to be throwing it onto the Stones there and he should take some responsibility. It just sounds he feels a little guilty about it. I seriously doubt that a 6th member, in light of the times and the powerhouse songwriting of Mick and Keith, would have made a lick of difference in terms of their popularity. I mean if that was the case, then the argument about the Stones compared to the Beatles would be the same and what would they propose, get rid of Bill?

There is no doubt that the Stones loved Stu, regardless of how they asked him to step aside, it would just be nice for them to publicly recognize him on occasions like this instead of the daily rubbish they often post on twitter.

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Edith Grove on Jul 19th, 2018 at 12:22pm
I like that ending to Live in Texas '78 where the camera focuses on Stu before fading to black.

I'm pretty sure that's Stu I'm talking about. Might just watch it again this weekend.
  :sad

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Voodoo Child in Wonderland on Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:38pm

The Wick wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 10:39am:
Wow, thanks Voodoo. This info is why this is the best Stones site.


I'm flattered, you rock!!!

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Paranoid Android on Jul 21st, 2018 at 4:44pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:43am:
As an additional read, this a Lisa Robinson interview (Creem Magazine 1976) as I posted here in Rocks Off in 2004

http://www.rocksoff.org/Archives/12-24-2004/206121-1.html

Lisa Robinson was the QUEEN of the NYC Rock Scene...Met her one time at Danceteria and it was amazing...Thanks for the read

Title: Re: Stu would have been 80 today
Post by Kilroy on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 2:16am
STU!

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