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Message started by Edith Grove on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 10:11am

Title: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 10:11am
How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s

By Michael Gallucci



Like many classic rockers, the Rolling Stones started the ’80s in pretty good shape. By the time the decade was over, like many of the veterans who held on long enough to make it to the MTV era, they were barely left standing. It was a rough period for a rock ‘n’ roll band like the Stones, and it was only going to get rougher.

But it didn’t look that way at the dawn of the decade. Following the release of seven straight No. 1 albums (starting with 1971’s Sticky Fingers and ending with 1980’s Emotional Rescue), they put out their eighth, Tattoo You, which stayed at the top of the chart longer than any of those other LPs – for nine weeks.

So, yeah, the previous 10 years had been pretty great for the Stones. But that would be the band’s last No. 1 album to date.



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Still, all looked good in 1980 with Emotional Rescue and then in 1981, when Tattoo You debuted. In addition to that hit album (which, in reality, was made up of leftover tracks from various ’70s sessions), the Stones also had a huge hit all over the radio and MTV, which aired its first video right around the same time “Start Me Up” was issued as the LP’s first single in August 1981.

And then there was the tour in support of the album, the group’s biggest at the time, and the run that pretty much started the big-ticket and big-event behemoth that big-name concerts grew into over the years. You have the Stones to thank for that.

Yeah, the Stones looked good to go in the ’80s.

So, what happened? The ’80s happened, that’s what happened. Few artists that got their start in the ’70s (let alone the ’60s) were immune to the decade. Even the best of them – those who were even still around; many of the greats, including Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and the Who were either broken up or on their way out – faced new challenges in the new decade.

First, the Stones tried to capitalize on the massive tour in support of Tattoo You with both a live album (Still Life [American Concert 1981]) and a concert movie (Let’s Spend the Night Together). Neither was a hit, but no matter: These show souvenirs were designed to be nothing more than stopgaps between records.



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Then, in 1982, they went to Europe for their first tour there in six years, with hopes of replicating the success of the U.S. tour. And like the earlier Stateside road trip, it was huge. They capped the year by signing a new record deal with CBS for $50 million, the biggest contract ever up to that point. But they owed their old company, Atlantic, one more album.

That’s when they delivered Undercover, the 1983 album that broke the band’s streak of No. 1 records and the one that signaled what most of the remaining ’80s would be like for the Stones.

It’s not a bad album, and considering what was up next, it’s a pretty good one. But Undercover didn’t sound like a typical Stones record, and it struggled to crack the Top 5. Even a grimy video for the lead single, “Undercover of the Night,” and some early support from MTV couldn’t push the album any higher than No. 4. It didn’t help matters that the band didn’t tour and an increasingly nasty rift between Mick Jagger and Keith Richards had reached its boiling point.



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By 1984, Jagger had a solo record deal and spent most of his time working on that without help from his longtime group. Richards wasn’t happy. He also wasn’t happy with being a Rolling Stone at this point, feeling somewhat shackled by fans’ and the record label’s expectations. But mostly he wasn’t happy that when it came time to assemble the next band album, Jagger was off doing his solo thing.

She’s the Boss was released in early 1985, and Jagger spent most of the year making videos (for himself, with David Bowie and with the Jacksons), showing up at Live Aid with Tina Turner and pretty much avoiding the rest of the Rolling Stones. With most of Jagger’s best songs going toward his solo LP, Richards was tasked with putting together their next album mostly by himself with some help from Ronnie Wood, whose role in the group had expanded in the ’80s.

When Dirty Work arrived in 1986, it was roundly dismissed as one of the Stones’ worst albums – though “One Hit [To the Body]” managed to spark some of the old fire. Like Undercover, it stalled at No. 4. And, like with Undercover, there was no tour to support it. Jagger instead was working on his second solo record – 1987’s Primitive Cool – and his first solo tour, which included several Rolling Stones songs. Richards was not pleased, and the band, for the first time in its quarter-century history, was on the verge of breaking up.



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Richards used the downtime as an opportunity to record his first solo album, 1988’s Talk Is Cheap, a ramshackle, garage-sounding rock ‘n’ roll record that was the closest anybody in the Rolling Stones got to their classic years since Tattoo You. Not to be outdone by Jagger’s solo tour, Richards hit the road with the X-Pensive Winos, downplaying the glitz and glam Jagger emphasized in his shows.

The time away from each other must have done everybody some good. By 1989, when the Stones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Jagger and Richards were speaking again and got together to work on their best album since 1981. Steel Wheels isn’t an essential Stones album, but it’s as close as the band got to one, for the most part, during one of its most grueling decades.

For the first time in years, save for some songs here and there, they sounded like they cared again. The last time they sounded this committed to the material was way back in 1980 on Emotional Rescue. (Remember, Tattoo You was made up of a bunch of outtakes, though you could say Undercover was committed, just misguided in its thinking and execution at times.)



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The band hit the road for the first time in seven years, taking its massive Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle tours to North America, Europe and Japan. By the time it was all over, it was the Stones’ biggest tour ever as they ushered in a new era: the era of the mega concert experience.

From here on out, the band’s albums – there have been only a few since the release of Steel Wheels in 1989 – took a backseat to the nostalgia-filled shows that got bigger and bigger over the years, as horn sections, backing singers and guests joined them onstage to replicate their hits for the millionth time.

It all took a toll on bassist Bill Wyman, an original member since the group’s formation in 1962. He officially quit the band in 1992, but the seeds for his departure were planted in the late ’80s, arguably the Stones’ last significant years. They barely made it through the decade, and by the time they finally worked out their problems at the start of the new one, they seemed bruised, beaten and scarred.

Of course, the Stones are still around. And, depending on how you look at things, they’re bigger, or at least richer, than they’ve ever been – thanks to a string of tours that’s kept them on the road periodically since the ’90s. They’re moneymakers, no doubt, and the band knows what its audience wants. That means “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction.” And “Brown Sugar.” And “Miss You.” And even some from the ’80s, like “Start Me Up.”

But you won’t hear too much new or unfamiliar material, mostly because the Stones haven’t released an album of original material since 2005. No matter. These days, it’s all about holding on to the past rather than defending their title of the World’s Greatest Rock ‘n’ Roll Band. They gave that up long ago, even before the ’80s rolled around, whether they knew it or not.



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Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 6:08pm
It's a dopey article...however, a fun read...as usual...Edith Scores!!

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by andrews27 on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 6:44pm
The 1980s were the worst thing that happened to everybody.  Unfortunately, they also brought us the 1990s.

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm

andrews27 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 6:44pm:
The 1980s were the worst thing that happened to everybody.


Now that reminds me of a John Lennon interview from 1980.

I think he was promoting Double Fantasy and he said (paraphrasing) "the Seventies weren't so good, let's make the Eighties better."



Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 4th, 2016 at 12:42pm
anyone of us here could have written that piece....zero new insight.....just like the 80's....a total waste of time

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by andrews27 on Nov 4th, 2016 at 8:00pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:

andrews27 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 6:44pm:
The 1980s were the worst thing that happened to everybody.


Now that reminds me of a John Lennon interview from 1980.

I think he was promoting Double Fantasy and he said (paraphrasing) "the Seventies weren't so good, let's make the Eighties better."

...And look what happened there.

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Steel Wheels on Nov 5th, 2016 at 1:36pm
Terrible article.

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Freya Gin on Nov 10th, 2016 at 11:56am
Speaking as a fan who was a teenager in the '80s, it seems to me that the well-publicized Jagger-Richards rift may have had something to do with their decline in popularity. I remember a lot of talk about them breaking up, especially after 1984 (I was 13 then). I don't think the effect of that should be underestimated. There was some outcry from their fans but what made it worse is what you still see going on now, decades later: fans taking sides. Fans are still going round and round over events that happened years and years ago, apparently doing their level best to keep that old feud alive. It's like they think they'll eventually resolve something as they go on arguing decade after decade. Meanwhile, the guys themselves appear to have largely moved on and ignore the fans's efforts to salt those old wounds.

There's always some kind of BS rivalry in a fandom, it seems. There's this ridiculous rivalry between Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan fans, for example. There's an even more ridiculous rivalry between Godzilla fans and Gamera fans. Stupidity is rampant everywhere, I guess. On a personal note, this is why I'm not usually to be found on a fan forum. Rocks Off is the exception for me.

Of course, the worse thing that happened is that the music scene changed so much in the 80s. The music that became popular was music that the Stones didn't want to play. That had more to do with it than anything, I think. By 1990 the popular music was a completely different sound than the popular music in 1980. Unfortunately, in my opinion.

Title: Re: How the Rolling Stones Survived the ’80s
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 16th, 2016 at 6:08pm

Freya Gin wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 11:56am:
By 1990 the popular music was a completely different sound than the popular music in 1980



Thank god!
By then it was all power Ballads ( Aerosmith's Angel?!?) and horrible rap ( yes...there was good rap!) ...almost as bad as the early 70's with "Mellow Rock" and crappy crossover bands like Chicago and Steely Dan...

IMO 1989 had Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails gave RnR the kick in the ass it needed.

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