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Message started by RnRollInsight on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 1:12pm

Title: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by RnRollInsight on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 1:12pm
Like many, my four fave Stones albums are Beggar's, Let It Bleed, Stick Fingers and Exile. I've always wondered how much Jimmy Miller helped produce those amazing records, so I looked into it and summed it up here. Hope you enjoy the read:
http://www.rocknrollinsight.com/2016/09/producer-jimmy-millers-impact-on.html

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 1:18pm
Welcome RnRollInsight!!!

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by KMC on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 5:18pm
More insight into their best recording stretch. To appreciate Miller's influence just play Satanic Majesties back to back with Beggar's Banquet. There isn't enough written about how the songs of that 4 album stretch were finalized. Do early takes of Gimme Shelter or Midnight Rambler even exist on tape? Now that would be a rarities cd to kill for.

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by Mr. Yeats on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 8:58pm

KMC wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 5:18pm:
More insight into their best recording stretch. To appreciate Miller's influence just play Satanic Majesties back to back with Beggar's Banquet. There isn't enough written about how the songs of that 4 album stretch were finalized. Do early takes of Gimme Shelter or Midnight Rambler even exist on tape? Now that would be a rarities cd to kill for.

I know of two early versions of "Gimme Shelter": one with Richards on lead vocals (very buried in the mix), and one with a different Jagger vocal. Both are the same basic backing track; neither feature Merry Clayton.


Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by Mr. Yeats on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 8:59pm

RnRollInsight wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Like many, my four fave Stones albums are Beggar's, Let It Bleed, Stick Fingers and Exile. I've always wondered how much Jimmy Miller helped produce those amazing records, so I looked into it and summed it up here. Hope you enjoy the read:
http://www.rocknrollinsight.com/2016/09/producer-jimmy-millers-impact-on.html

Nice. Though I should point out there is no floor tom on "Jumpin' Jack Flash". Perhaps you were thinking of "Street Fighting Man"?


Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 9:50am
Some say the best albums by the Stones are those in the Mick Taylor era but no, the best albums are those in the Jimmy Miller era

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by RnRollInsight on Sep 4th, 2016 at 9:45am
Hey Mr. Yeats :) there is floor tom in Jumping Jack!! Kinda buried in the mix though. Here's a quote from Charlie Watts (2003 I think):" Jumpin' Jack Flash was recorded at Olympic; we were doing it deliberately for a single. Keith is playing my floor tom-tom on it to give the boom-da, boom-da sound. Now you'd just program it and loop it or something daft like that. The sound on Jumpin' Jack Flash is very close together, because we do sit close to each other in the studio, much to most engineers' amazement nowadays. Nobody does that any more, really."

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by andrews27 on Sep 5th, 2016 at 9:06am
What Mick hired him for was the spooky, meditative, deep-focus feel that he gave to Traffic's albums, which should be listened to in comparison.  Equally, that's the kind of veneer Mick wanted to impose on Stones records, so you hear it even on Goats Head Soup, where Miller is half-MIA.

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by Heart Of Stone on Sep 6th, 2016 at 4:14am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 9:50am:
Some say the best albums by the Stones are those in the Mick Taylor era but no, the best albums are those in the Jimmy Miller era


I'm one of them, & in The Brain Jones era.

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by JivingSisterFanny72 on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:22am
Agreed!!!!

Title: Re: Jimmy Miller's influence on the Stones (1968-1972)
Post by JivingSisterFanny72 on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:25am
Sorry,as you can see I'm a newbie and just getting used to posting here.Going to take awhile to figure out! Excellent topic though.

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