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Title: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 9:56pm

At least according to this website. Of course all lists are shit. But at least this one includes the archive releases. Although they didn't give them much love. But then, when comes to Stones live albums. There is Ya Ya's............and then there is everything else.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-live-albums-ranked/

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by mojoman on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 11:28pm

ya ya's of course but damn i have been enjoying the hell otta the LA forum release lately!!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gimmekeef on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 11:40pm

The boot I have of Atlanta 2015 is my fave at the moment. Awesome Gimme Shelter!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 8:12pm

I honestly dont feel ANY album really captures the Stones LIVE. They are so much more worthy...It is the reason we all crap on the setlists...its the reason we all would give our left arm to hear (fill in the blank)...When I saw SOME GIRLS LIVE in the thearter...I knew why this band is so fucking amazing...Even as I write this i struggle to get the right words to describe it...I felt it in 1978...I felt it in 2015...and I hope to feel it again at least one more time.

So...Ya-Yas...hits really close to the mark...Flashpoint "gets it"...Got Live If You Want it...is nostalgic...Charlie Is My Darling is amusing, yet forthright...and Still Life I feel was recorded in my rectum...I wish I had all the boot they have released to make a comment on, but I don't.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by FPM on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 11:26pm

This one's pretty doggone good....

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gypsymofo60 on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 5:02pm

I have always enjoyed Love You Live. I know it sounds terribly messy, apart from The Mocambo set but, I feel it has this energy; the original 4th side sounds like a fucking runaway train, glorious. Fingerprint File is the unlikely stand out.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 7:04pm

YaYas is easily the best of the 'physical' releases. My second favourite is actually the 'Got live if you want it' EP from 1965. Beneath that muddy sound of kids screaming, the performances are electrifying.

Of the rest - Stripped was an interesting concept with very good performances, No Security is pretty good and thankfully warhorse-free, Got live if You Want it is fucking unlistenable, Love You Live (El Mocambo aside) has a poor choice of performances as it leans too heavily on the '76 shows (and Jagger managed to do the impossible by making his singing WORSE after overdubbing many of his vocals), Still Life is a sentimental favourite from my first Stones tour, Flashpoint is patchy but with some magical performances (the live B-sides are very good), Live Licks is a pointless contractual obligation product (coming one year after the far superior Four Flicks) with no quality control as judging by the abominable edit on 'Rocks off' its apparent that no one from the band listened to it before sanctioning its release. Shine A Light works better as a visual release than as a CD whereas the opposite can be said of the Live In Hyde Park CD as the film of the event is unwatchable as it appears to have been directed by a six year old with ADHD.

The new Sticky Fingers live release is better than I think most of us dared hope. Pretty impressive performances.

The most representative releases are the archive ones, though. Most of them are excellent. Brussels 73 is the obvious one, but I'd honestly put the recent Leeds/ London Roundhouse 1971 release that came with the Sticky Fingers package up there with Ya Yas and Brussels as the greatest live Stones release ever. The Roundhouse performances especially are mind blowing.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Bitch on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 7:27pm

Ger Yer Ya Ya's Out is the best.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by andrews27 on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 7:33pm

I have no idea what kind of live record concept they were after when they assembled No Security. It would have worked better if, in addition to using songs not released live before, they had worked up a proper beginning and end to the record, without which the tracks just lie there pointlessly. Better versions of some songs would have helped. "Crazy Mama" and "The Last Time" would have helped more. And I understand that Taj Mahal deserves all kinds of Blues Papa/'60s survivor props, but Taj by that time was a "Free Concert in the Park" act, and "Corinna" is as thrilling as a fat dead mackerel.

At least there's some "We're back" excitement to Flashpoint, which would have been a great album if they'd worked in some of the bonus tracks. (It improved when I did that myself on cassette for the car stereo.)

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by mojoman on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:29pm

Bitch wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

Ger Yer Ya Ya's Out is the best.

yes!!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by job on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 9:56am

Brussels '73

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Factory Girl on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 3:45pm

Officially speaking...LOVE YOU LIVE!

Its sloppy, messy, raw and very very sexy.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Joey on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 4:01pm

< --- No Security

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by patioaintdry on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 4:53pm

Dont think I've ever heard the 'Got live' EP from 1965, but the live disc from the Charlie is My Darling box set absolutely smokes, including a killer Route 66.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 5:11pm

Yeah, those four songs are from the Camden Theatre in London in March 1964. Great stuff.

Those songs were broadcast in an early stereo experiment (BBC Radio didnt have an FM outlet until the late 80's). Cant remember the details exactly, but they used the BBC TV transmitter and broadcast the audio feed that way at around 8 in the morning or something strange like that, in a way which allowed the listener to get a reception in stereo.

The GLIYWI live 1965 EP - which was only a UK release - has been reissued a few times on CD singles and boxed sets down the years.

"I'm Alright" from this EP was released on the US version of "Out of Our Heads" and both "Route 66" and "I'm Moving On" got US releases on 'December's Children' a few months later. 'Everybody Needs Somebody to Love/Pain in My Heart' is also on the CD that came with the 'Charlie is My Darling' box set.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 5:59pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

Cant remember the details exactly,

Christ my man...you must be older than dirt!!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:01pm

I dig Live Licks at the moment. Great shows. Great memories.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:07pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

Cant remember the details exactly,

Christ my man...you must be older than dirt!!

Haha...No, but the first time the Camden Theatre tracks became available was in November 1985 when there was a 'Stones at the Beeb' radio special which was a real revelation at the time, unearthing an hour of mostly long lost radio sessions from 1963-65 and featuring interviews with a few BBC engineers who worked on the sessions.

THAT's where I got that story from!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by corgi37 on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 6:24am

Ya ya's is the best of the official ones. Brussels is the best now I reckon. But, production stupidity and completely ill-timed, I still like "Love you live".

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by andrews27 on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 7:03am

In its day, Love You Live got a lot of play at people's houses and at bars and parties in the US, so it made people happy despite its mashed-up presentation. I loved it at the time, during the season when I discovered bootlegs. I still play it all the way through sometimes, which is better than some records get.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by MP on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 2:40pm

Sticky Fingers Live from this year is pretty effin good if you ask moi......

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:10pm

MP wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 2:40pm:

Sticky Fingers Live from this year is pretty effin good if you ask moi......

Agree, I love it.I don't know why they didn't play more of it. Or attempt to play all of it on tour. I think this show came off very well.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Mr. Yeats on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm

I think, these days, that 'Some Girls: Live In Texas '78' is probably their strongest and most exciting official live album.
And no overdubs or edits and all from the same show in actual running order.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by job on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 5:21pm

Factory Girl wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

Officially speaking...LOVE YOU LIVE!

Its sloppy, messy, raw and very very sexy.

I got that last night. Oh and I have the record too.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by job on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 5:24pm

andrews27 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 7:03am:

In its day, Love You Live got a lot of play at people's houses and at bars and parties in the US, so it made people happy despite its mashed-up presentation.

Yep, that and Steve Miller's Greatest, Frampton Comes Alive, and The Kinks' One For The Road were in everyone's regular party rotation.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:17pm

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

Its great stuff. Personally I think the King Biscuit Flower Hour recordings from that tour from Memphis, Lexington, Houston and Detroit make for a better live album (and had it been released officially would be up there with Brussels '73) but its a great companion to a fantastic movie.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Teiz on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:40pm

Love You Live is my favorite of the 'official' live albums. I like the dirty sound of the band on that one. And it has that rare spark: it sounds like you are listening to a gig, not a gig that went through the hands of a production team. It has been of course, but this team did an outstanding job. You can almost smell the stale beer and cigarette smoke that was in the room at the time.

So as much as I love Ya-Ya's, Love You Live is the one for me.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 8:07pm

Love You Live lingers the most.

It was splendid how Warhol showed them chomping and nibbling on each other.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:11pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

I have that one in a cassette tape, that one and the one from the New Barbarians in Toronto were tapes I used to listen a lot some years ago...

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Mr. Yeats on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:22pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:11pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

I have that one in a cassette tape, that one and the one from the New Barbarians in Toronto were tapes I used to listen a lot some years ago...

Yeah, I had taped the Memphis show off the radio at the time and played it until the tape fell apart, and agree with Gazza that that was maybe a better show than Ft. Worth (if memory serves).

Didn't know they broadcast those other gigs on King Biscuit; that was such an exciting summer to be a Stones fan.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gypsymofo60 on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

It's called many things, as you'd imagine with boots, but 'Keep Your Motor Running' (otherwise known as 'The Lost Live Album'); Philly and Houston 1972 is very good. Ya Yas, Love You Live, Brussels 73, and Sonic BBQ, Euro' 73. And I do like LA Forum. And what the hell? I'll chuck in Paris(Abbotoirs) '76.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by job on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 5:31pm

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 8:07pm:

Love You Live lingers the most.

Would you even go so far as to say: Love You Live lingers longer?

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by andrews27 on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 6:40pm

Jack Daniels On Tour (VGP-111), 07-04-72. Because of the rioting outside, you never heard the final four songs played so fast nor so well - a skill they learned under fire in Holland, Germany and Scandinavia, 1964-1967.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 7:22pm

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:11pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

I have that one in a cassette tape, that one and the one from the New Barbarians in Toronto were tapes I used to listen a lot some years ago...

They didn't. As I recall, they broadcast two specials as 'Live from Memphis' and 'Live from Lexington' but the 'Memphis' broadcast featured a couple of songs from Memphis with the rest coming from Houston and Detroit and the 'Lexington' broadcast consisted of songs from Lexington, Detroit and Houston.

The version from the 'Memphis' broadcast (I think its from Detroit although it could be from Houston, I'd need to check) of 'Tumbling Dice' (the one that begins with Mick lamenting that 'Keith has lost his pick') is IMO the greatest ever live performance of that song.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Mr. Yeats on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 3:15am

Gazza wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 7:22pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:11pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

I have that one in a cassette tape, that one and the one from the New Barbarians in Toronto were tapes I used to listen a lot some years ago...

Good info Gazza, cheers.
Back then I had a vinyl boot called 'In Again Out Again'. It was just a white cardboard sleeve with a glued on pic of Woody and Mick; it was an annoyingly clear board-mix and had a drastic audio drop on the last song ("Street Fighting Man"?). I remember "Lies" was on it and was very ragged, with Charlie trying to pull the tempo back a bit and the pristine board mix doing it no favours. I'm sure I bought it in '78 or early '79...

Does this ring any bells with you as to which show it was?

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Mr. Yeats on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 3:34am

Ah, never mind Gazza, just found it: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ. Is there a b&w video feed from this gig?, per Springsteen, The Clash, etc., as the manager taped hundreds of Capitol shows for a few years...

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 7:02pm

.[/quote]
Would you even go so far as to say: Love You Live lingers longer?
[/quote]

Or '...lingers longest and most lovelily'

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Paranoid Android on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 9:07pm

Mr. Yeats wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 3:34am:

My first Stones show!!
Actually my first concert period!!

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Mr. Yeats on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:11am

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 9:07pm:

Mr. Yeats wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 3:34am:

My first Stones show!!
Actually my first concert period!!

Nice!
I almost made the St. Paul show (that woulda been MY first) but ended up baby-sitting for my bro's buddy as they were going. So I watched the 10 oclock news and the coverage of the show was nuts: National Guard helicopters flying over the Civic Center, heavy police presence as there were apparently a few hundred gate-crashers. Then Wyman fell off the stage and busted his hand (you can see his fingers taped up in the Some Girls Live '78 film).

I made up for missing the tour in November by seeing Springsteen for my first big show. But I digress...

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gypsymofo60 on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 3:57pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 9:56pm:

How about Atlantic City, 1989? I know it's not strictly speaking a live LP but, it's a diamond of a show.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gypsymofo60 on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 4:09pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 9:56pm:

[b]Back in 2003, Marko did an amazing set of boots(live) which he simply split into the Jones era 2 discs, the Taylor era, 2 discs, and the Wood era 6 discs. As is his wont, he did not give source data. Some of you may also have it. It is very good.[b]

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Lil-Brian on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:52pm

Impressed here by the new Grateful Dead 50th anniversary release! Can you imagine a box full of unreleased show from every year the Stones toured? All the recent archive releases are great, don't get me wrong. Just saying.

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by Gazza on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:56pm

Mr. Yeats wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 3:34am:

Sorry, been away for a few days.

This was one of the first Stones boot recordings I owned too.

I think the reason for the audio drop in 'Street Fighting Man' is because the roadie who was tapping into the soundboard feed almost got caught and literally had to rip his cassette out of the deck mid-song. I think most of the early releases had the song cut at that point (maybe there was a lesser quality recording of the rest of the song added to make it complete. Audience perhaps? Cant remember).

I'm pretty sure that Gottorollme (RIP) was at this gig too. It may have even been her first Stones show.

I've never seen or heard of any video footage of this gig. You're right about the b&w footage of the shows by Bruce and The Clash from around the same era (the 3 Bruce shows were 19-21 Sep '78)

Title: Re: Best Live Stones Albums
Post by gypsymofo60 on Oct 27^th, 2015 at 4:08pm

SO we are all in agreement. They're either all shit, or all sugar.