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Message started by Paranoid Android on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:34pm

Title: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Paranoid Android on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:34pm

I have no doubt the Stones could do that...but realistically...in your opinion, how long could they hold a residency there, say with 80% sellout?

10 Shows? 20...30...50...??? I think at least 30 shows, basing it on attendance from ZIP CODE and the fact that there were a fair number of maniacs who traveled to see them....that would account for a near 100% sellout...then another 15-20 or so as the hype falls...a few more and then it would be in the 60-80% mark...

Now if it were RCMH...I say 80-100+ shows at near sell out for sure...of course i have absolutely NOTHING to base this off of...

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:00pm
At their current pricing. 4-5 at most. Reasonable pricing, add a few more.  :warhorse

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:13pm
Tickets for U2 were $45 to $315, completely sold out, one of my daughters wanted to be there, it was a long line for "cancellations" and I didn't try it, so yes, I'm in NYC and won't see them




Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Bitch on Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:43am
The Stones could sell out 8 shows in NY no problem. It would help if they offered something different each night instead of the same old same old.

U2 varies the setlists quite a bit and keeps it interesting.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by gimmekeef on Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:56am
Prices would have to be even higher because based on the Stones current pacing of shows they would need MSG for a month to complete 8 shows.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Some Guy on Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:48am
Voodoo comes to America to see U2 but not the Stones?! We're in Trouble.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:21am
LOLno way, I'm here to see my daughter and by coincidence U2 is playing and no, I didn't see them but gotta admit that I tried because of one of my daughters


Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:34am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:21am:
LOLno way, I'm here to see my daughter and by coincidence U2 is playing and no, I didn't see them but gotta admit that I tried because of one of my daughters

They're very good on this tour.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Gazza on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:35pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
I have no doubt the Stones could do that...but realistically...in your opinion, how long could they hold a residency there, say with 80% sellout?

10 Shows? 20...30...50...??? I think at least 30 shows, basing it on attendance from ZIP CODE and the fact that there were a fair number of maniacs who traveled to see them....that would account for a near 100% sellout...then another 15-20 or so as the hype falls...a few more and then it would be in the 60-80% mark...

Now if it were RCMH...I say 80-100+ shows at near sell out for sure...of course i have absolutely NOTHING to base this off of...



At Stones prices? I'd be surprised if they could do three or four. And that's only if they were playing no other shows for a couple of hundred miles.

They played three shows in the New York/NJ area in December 2012. These were their only shows in the US and their first shows in America for six years. It wasnt a tough ticket. Mainly because they were so expensive and while the shows 'officially' sold out, they were easy to get on secondary ticket sale sites.

The Zip Code isnt a good example because that was a stadium tour. An arena tour for the Stones is a risk outside a few main markets because they're asking for a guarantee of about $4-5 million a show, and most promoters will shit their pants at risking that amount of overhead for a 15,000 seat venue. Thats the main reason why the recent tour took place in stadiums, because they could get their guarantee and largely fill the stadiums because they were able to provide a wide variety of ticket prices (not to mention the usual practice of bait and switch with firesales as well as relying on thousands of idiots buying expensive tickets and then immediately trying to resell them for even more inflated prices on places like Seatwave)

U2 are a far bigger draw these days and much more of a sure thing for a promoter. Their guarantee is lower compared to the Stones, their prices are far more affordable for arena shows as well as stadium dates and they've sold out literally every concert they've put on for about 25 years now. And these are genuine sellouts. No tarping or silly claims like selling 30,000 tickets at Soldier Field and claiming its a full house (despite playing there to 55,000 a year before)

The Stones struggled to sell two nights in arenas in major cities even in 2013. On the Bigger Bang tour, they managed to do it in a couple of markets like New York and Chicago but to do more than two shows they needed to add a third night maybe 4-5 months later to give their target market time to recover.  Add to that factor that U2 played 8 shows at MSG in a period of two weeks. They could probably have done it in less time. The Stones play just two shows a week. It would take them almost a month to play that many gigs. Imagine the costs of keeping that organisation together for that long just to play eight shows!

If the Stones used U2's ticket price module they probably wouldnt sell out as many nights at any venue, but they would come reasonably close. However, they don't and more unfortunately, they won't.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by gypsymofo60 on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:03pm
U2, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and a few others, are the only decent, (real rock bands) left. I'm glad they are doing so well, even if Bono's preaching does get right up my nose at times. The band are superb, but Bono lost me when he appeared on fucking phoney Oprah. Obama's TV fuck buddy. The Edge; brilliant!

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Starbuck on Jul 30th, 2015 at 12:04pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:21am:
LOLno way, I'm here to see my daughter and by coincidence U2 is playing and no, I didn't see them but gotta admit that I tried because of one of my daughters


Jesus...no wonder Josh won't come back.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by robpop on Jul 30th, 2015 at 2:19pm
Must win gross.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:45pm
I'd like to see the Stones try this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-the-edge-adam-claytons-shock-performance-with-u2-cover-band-20150730

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by mojoman on Jul 30th, 2015 at 5:32pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:45pm:
I'd like to see the Stones try this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-the-edge-adam-claytons-shock-performance-with-u2-cover-band-20150730



woodys performed at the cutting room. not with the unforgivable fire though.........

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Starbuck on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:33pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:45pm:
I'd like to see the Stones try this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-the-edge-adam-claytons-shock-performance-with-u2-cover-band-20150730

A tribute artist's wet dream.

This has never happened to me.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm

Starbuck wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:45pm:
I'd like to see the Stones try this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-the-edge-adam-claytons-shock-performance-with-u2-cover-band-20150730

A tribute artist's wet dream.

This has never happened to me.

Next time Paul or Ringo are in Minnesota.They'll be there for you Bucky.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Paranoid Android on Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:42pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:45pm:
I'd like to see the Stones try this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-the-edge-adam-claytons-shock-performance-with-u2-cover-band-20150730


I can $$$$$$$ee the band doing thi$$$$$$$$$$$

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by mojoman on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:41am
did mick attend?

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Bitch on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:55am
I saw the last 2 nights on Periscope. It was dramatic.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:45pm

Bitch wrote on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:55am:
I saw the last 2 nights on Periscope. It was dramatic.

I watched last night. Best guest was saved for last.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRBv-oeimw

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Some Guy on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:32pm
dudes kilt this, see below-

https://youtu.be/cJeum40wrKI

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:33pm

gypsymofo60 wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
U2, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and a few others, are the only decent, (real rock bands) left. I'm glad they are doing so well, even if Bono's preaching does get right up my nose at times. The band are superb, but Bono lost me when he appeared on fucking phoney Oprah. Obama's TV fuck buddy. The Edge; brilliant!


AIC original line-up has not been around since Layne Staley's death in 2002.  AIC was a great band, and Layne was a great singer with them and Mad Season.


Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 4th, 2015 at 5:33pm

Factory Girl wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

gypsymofo60 wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
U2, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and a few others, are the only decent, (real rock bands) left. I'm glad they are doing so well, even if Bono's preaching does get right up my nose at times. The band are superb, but Bono lost me when he appeared on fucking phoney Oprah. Obama's TV fuck buddy. The Edge; brilliant!


AIC original line-up has not been around since Layne Staley's death in 2002.  AIC was a great band, and Layne was a great singer with them and Mad Season.

Layne is gone. But AIC still rocks. Just saw them a week ago. Still put on a great show.

Title: Re: U2...finishing up 8 sold out nites at MSG...
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 5th, 2015 at 5:41am
I saw AIC with Layne when they opened for Iggy Pop in Baltimore, MD  many moons ago.  I also AIC with another singer a few years back, and was underwhelmed.

In my view, Layne was one of the best rock singers of his era, and he is irreplaceable.

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