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Message started by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 18th, 2015 at 8:54am

Title: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 18th, 2015 at 8:54am
(Excerpted from Angelina, An Unauthorized Biography by Andrew Morton.
By way of background, during much of the period of her involvement
with Jagger, she had five other intense love affairs going on at
the same time! 1) With her ex-husband Trainspotting actor Jonny Lee
Miller 2) With her husband-to-be Billy Bob Thorton 3) With actor
and ladies man Timothy Hutton 4) With shaved-head model Jenny Shimizu,
and 5) with heroin, which she was smoking habitually. Each knew very
little about the others. Apparently Angelina compartmentalizes quite
well. Also by way of background, Angelina's mother, Marcheline Bertrand,
was a huge fan of Mick and the Stones and named her 1975 newborn
daughter "Angie" partly because of the song)

In 1997 Angelina had at first turned down the chance to perform as
a stripper in the latest Rolling Stones video "Anybody Seen My Baby?"
It was only endless pleading by Marcheline, who utterly idolized the
band and knew all their lyrics by heart. "Please, darling; please do
it for me," Marche begged...

Jagger may have not found his baby in the video, but he knew he wanted
to find out more about the sexy woman standing half-naked before him.
Much more. It was the beginning of a two-year quest that was as
decadent and depraved as any event in the Stones' storied sexual
lexicon - a magnificent if frustrating obsession as Jagger, at the
time fifty-four and still married to Jerry Hall, then pregnant with
the fourth of their children, pursued this erotic vision around the
world...

Central to this unfolding drama was Angie's mother, who now lived
vicariously through her daughter. Angie was everything her quiet,
reserved, passive earth mother could never be: wild, adventurous,
sexy, a rock-and-roll chick. Enter into this mix Mick Jagger. Marche
had adored him from afar since she was a teenager. As unhealthy as it
was, it was perhaps understandable Angie's relationship with the
rock-and-roll roue. For the next two years, unbeknownst to her daughter,
she played cupid, encouraging Jagger and advising him on how best to
pursue his suit with Angie, eager for them to marry one day...

It was not long before Marcheline was planning her daughter's wedding
in France. She decided that afterward she would live in an annex of
her daughter's home with Jagger. "Marche loved Mick for Angie," recalls
a family friend. "She felt he could teach her about fame and how to
handle it"...

Marche's fantasy actually seemed within reach. Certainly Jagger's phone
messages indicated he was willing to give up everything for the object
of his desire. He courted Angie assiduously, reduced to a "sniveling
wretch" in the face of her seductive disregard. For once it was a case
of the biter bit, as he left Angie endless telephone messages, pleading,
beeseeching, begging her to speak to him and then meet him. "Angelina,
why aren't you calling me? Where are you? Please phone me," Mick, one
of the world's great Lotharios, implored. Unfortunately he left these
messages on the wrong phone. During the video shoot he had asked Angie
for her number, but such was her indifference that she gave him her
mother's number instead...

When Mick finally managed to speak with Angie, he invited her to join
him in Florida while the band took a break from the Bridges to Babylon
tour. Though she spent time with him, she refused to have sex, claiming
she was having her period, but she was just messing with his head...

Still the Rolling Stones singer persisted. Knowing that Angie was
nominally married but dating, he cooked up a plan. Jagged Films
approached her (ex) husband Jonny Lee Miller about a role they were
casting in Enigma. Jagger assumed that since Miller and Angie were
still good friends, she would visit him on the set...

When Angie confronted Jagger about this scheme, he confirmed her
suspicions. Angie was furious, screaming that she never wanted to
see or speak to him again...

Jagger paid a high emotional price, falling into a deep depression as
a result of Angie's silence. Angie's heart thawed only after Stones
drummer Charlie Watts called her and pleaded with her to call Jagger,
as he was in utter despair. Reluctantly, she agreed to resume their
relationship, and the love-struck rocker invited her to join him on
tour in Brazil in April 1998...

Meanwhile, her mother was busy mapping out Angie's future. With
Jonny Lee Miller finally divorced, she went to see her regular psychic
to ask the chances of Angie marrying Mick. The psychic was blunt,
telling her that Angie would marry an older man, but it was not
going to be Jagger. Marcheline was devastated - but determined to
prove the psychic wrong...

While in Toronto filming, Angie and her new lover, Billy Bob Thornton,
headed over to the Skydome to watch the Rolling Stones in concert,
unaware of yet another scheme by the besotted Mick Jagger. Previously
Jagger had invited Angie to the show and to party with him afterwards,
but she had graciously declined. So Jagger called Billy Bob and
invited the entire cast and crew. Now Angie was obliged to go. At
the time Mick didn't know about Billy Bob and Angie, and vice versa.
During a break in the show, when the stage was ceded to Keith Richards,
a security guard came up to Angie and said, "Mick Jagger would like
you to go backstage and meet him." Jagger gave her a cashmere sweater,
and they made out until he had to go back onstage...

Later, when Angie was filming in New York, Jagger invited her to the
Stones concert in Philadelphia. She attended the gig but, much to
Mick's chagrin, did not hang out with him. More revealing than her
teasing indifference toward Jagger was the dance of deception between
Angie and her mother. She called Marcheline after the concert and told
her that Jagger had asked her to marry him. Her mother was thrilled and
called Mick to congratulate him. He was utterly bemused (and started
to distance himself from Marcheline)...

Ironically, with the freeze between Mick and her mother, Angie started
feeling much warmer toward him. Jagger, not known for his largesse,
had sent her a pair of $5000 earrings. In May 1999 she was thinking
of joining him in Brazil during the No Security tour. Her friends were
alarmed. The same month he had fathered a child by Brazilan model
Luciana Jimenez - and yet Angie was going to Rio de Janeiro to be
with the singer. "I told her she was out of her fucking mind to have
anything to do with him," recalls a close friend. "But she didn't take
a blind bit of notice. It was all part of her great adventure"...

One day her dad Jon Voight confronted her about Jagger, "Dark side,
dark side, these people are a bad influence." It was all Angie could
do not to laugh. "Dad, if anybody is a bad influence, including on
the Rolling Stones, I am."

Her father had no idea just how bad. One night Angie took her
Jumpin' Jack Flash to a bondage club in New York. During the
visit, she told friends that they were both whipped. "That was Angie,"
said one of the friends. "She might have only slept with four men,
but she was a total sexual deviant." Angie told Time magazine,
"S and M focuses you. It's a wierd cleansing of self."

Not yet married to Billy Bob, Angie began her quest to have a child, 
telling a "stunned" Mick Jagger that she planned to adopt a Native
American baby, whom she would name after him as a celebration of
their relationship. How serious she was remains an open question
(as her attempt to adopt a Native American was unsuccessful, despite
her mother attending tribal seminars in search of a baby Mick)

(Not long afterwards, Angie's thing with Billy Bob really caught fire
and captured the world's attention as they publically slobbered all
over each other for a year or so. Then, when their marriage broke up
almost as quickly as it started, she would have her last fling with
Mick in Cambodia, walking the ruins of Anghor together, while she
was there on adoption business.)

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Tom on Feb 18th, 2015 at 3:49pm
:blankfriggingstare1


Thanks Revy!

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by gimmekeef on Feb 18th, 2015 at 4:56pm
Brad Pitt left Anniston for this gal?.....She must really have some boudoir skills!

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Edith Grove on Feb 18th, 2015 at 5:11pm
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Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Feb 18th, 2015 at 5:13pm
Does the biography mention the track 'Zip Mouth Angel'?

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Bitch on Feb 18th, 2015 at 10:03pm
One night Angie took her Jumpin' Jack Flash to a bondage club in New York. During the visit, she told friends that they were both whipped.

I'm sorry but this is total bullshit. MICK was very recognizable and would not go out alone, especially to clubs where the whip comes down ~ its too risky. I've been to those S&M clubs in NY and its a big stage so if MICK was in plain sight getting whipped this would have been front page news. In private, that's another matter, but in an S&M club people are totally obsessed, and MICK would of been recognized instantly. No way this could have been kept quiet.

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 19th, 2015 at 12:00am

Bitch wrote on Feb 18th, 2015 at 10:03pm:
One night Angie took her Jumpin' Jack Flash to a bondage club in New York. During the visit, she told friends that they were both whipped.

I'm sorry but this is total bullshit. MICK was very recognizable and would not go out alone, especially to clubs where the whip comes down ~ its too risky. I've been to those S&M clubs in NY and its a big stage so if MICK was in plain sight getting whipped this would have been front page news. In private, that's another matter, but in an S&M club people are totally obsessed, and MICK would of been recognized instantly. No way this could have been kept quiet.


Couldn't this alleged incident have taken place in a
private area in such a club?

I don't think merely visiting such a club would have
been such a big deal in the late 90s. Especially if Mick
and Angie came and left seperately. Or used a private
entrance.

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Bitch on Feb 19th, 2015 at 9:26am
Its possible but the whole purpose of going to S&M clubs is to watch and be watched. If you are going to do it in private, why bother going to a club at all? Its the spectacle that makes the experience. There are S&M houses with private chamber rooms, but this isn't a S&M Club, its Dominatrix shit. I would be surprised if MICK allowed himself to be dominated by a Mistress. I just don't believe MICK would enjoy giving up control altogether since he is a total control freak by nature, unless he was only doing it to impress Angelina. I think MICK would love being the Master but hate being the Slave. DONT WANT TO BE YOUR SLAVE! MICK whipping Angie for giving him the run around would seem would seem more believable than both of them getting whipped at the same time. Where is the fun in that?

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 19th, 2015 at 4:40pm
I see your point. But I suppose since the S&M story is
credited to a "friend" who heard about it afterwards,
I wouldn't be surprised if this or that detail is incorrect.

Just reading a few reviews right now, the book was
soundly criticized for not citing sources. But there
seems to be no claims of overall inaccuracy about the
nature and number of Jolie's relationships.

Mick's motivation in this relationship is the interesting
mystery. I agree it is certainly out of character for him,
at age 50+, to have been in any sense the subordinate
one, the one being played, the one taking shit...

The author attributes this to how hopelessly in love
he was with Angelina. Personally I tend to doubt that.
To me it makes more sense to picture him as
hopelessly in lust with her. Which would be motivation
enough for him to have put up with, and even enjoyed
her games. As long as at the same time he had the
security of others on a string himself (Jerry, Carla,
Sophie, Luciana...)

So my overall guess would be that he figured out that
his only possible path to bedding this kinky wildcat was
to portray himself as hopelessly in love with her, so
that's what he did. He was gaming her, and her mom,
from the start.


Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by lavendar on Feb 19th, 2015 at 4:44pm
Her Purr spective

S + M + M.....

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm
One more thought about Jolie and this dominance-
submission thing, and her 5 simultaneous pre-Brad
relationships. 1) Despite Jenny Shimizu's shaved head,
apparently Angie was the dominant partner, the one
according to the book who wore the strap-on, 2) her
ex-hubby Jonny Lee Miller comes across as strictly
her puppy dog and plaything, 3) and 4) there seems to
be evidence that Angie "broke" both of these notorious
lady-killers, Billy Bob and Timothy Hutton, and that
they were never the same again. There's some shrinks
quoted in the book who assess this as a way of getting
even with her philandering father, which brings us to
5) Mick Jagger. I think its reasonable to see Angie as
partially motivated here in the same way as she was
towards 3) and 4). But I just don't think there's any
evidence that she "broke" him. I think it was a
meeting of seductive titans, he gave as good as he got,
and neither broke the other. A skillfully played draw. 

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 19th, 2015 at 6:24pm
On the other hand: A huge missing piece of the Mick
puzzle is who if anyone were his other points of interest
during his time with L'Wren. There's been lots of vague
info about him "cheating" on L'Wren, but no
suspects have ever been named, as far as I know.
No important relationships (like with Carla and Sophie
and Angelina) outside of his main relationship. If that
turns out to be true, then maybe Angelina did "break"
Mick too.

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Bitch on Feb 20th, 2015 at 9:02pm
All good points Rev! I totally agree MICK was never Angie's toy, he was playing her and her mother all along.  She was an obsession, probably because she was a challenge who played hard to get, and MICK had to prove to her and to himself that he will always get what he wants. A hot fling. Sparks Will Fly. Fucked her in the ass, the perfect way to put her in her place, lol.

As for the cheating on L'wren accusations, there was a young Russian ballerina that was with him in China (?) and then she was with him again in Europe. There are photos circulating of them together in MICKs hotel balcony, but my guess is that this was a fling and it should not of put L'wren over the edge. She had other serious psych issues.  I don't blame MICK one bit for her suicide.

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 21st, 2015 at 12:19am
I don't doubt at all that Mick had flings during the
L'Wren years, but did he have any more serious relationships?

In that regard, there's one other possibility that needs
to be mentioned, however speculative.

We've seen that, prior to Brad, Angelina had an
astonishing, even pathological, ability to dissociate/
compartmentalize, to lead her various lovers
into believing that, if not the only one, he or she was
certainly the most important one. According to the
shrinks in Morton's book, this was caused by being
essentially abandoned by both parents during her
earliest years (although Angie would eventually blame
her father alone for everything).

Obviously it was an enormous turning point in Angie's
life when, circa 2003, she started devoting herself to
being a single mom, with her first adoptee Maddox. It
was Maddox who spontaneously started calling Angie's
friend Brad "dad" which led to 5 more children
together for them over the next three years (three
natural, two more adoptees).

These were the same years that Mick and L'Wren were
in their honeymoon period.

But what if, once her family with Brad was established,
Angie once again started to feel the call of the wild?
What if the tigress couldn't completely change her
stripes? Who could she trust, where could she look for
some 100% discrete fun with no chance of endangering
the well-being of her kids or her UN role?

We have no evidence of this, but it certainly could
explain how two of the most notoriously unfaithful
people on the planet, Mick and Angie, suddenly
transformed themselves into the very picture of
propriety in their "marital" relationships (and the book
actually hints at something like this, saying that
Angelina sometimes just disappears, leaving Brad to
look after the children). 

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Feb 21st, 2015 at 2:08pm
What she did to her knockers was mind-mending (and rather compartmentalisationist)

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:32pm
jenny shimizu's in the vid too! brief close-up in the beginning...

also, the 3-second close-up of Angie at the end of vid... wow!

"she confessed her love to me/then she vanished on the breeze/trying to hold on to that was just impossible"
"love is going to make me blind"
"i must have called her a thousand times"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinwuzZVjnE

Also, as Stonesdoug posted in 2010:  During Star Star at Twickenham,
Mick sang "Billy Bob Thornton got made at me, for giving head to Angeline"

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 5:21pm
@RollingStones tweeted two songs today

"Anybody seen my baby" and "Angie"

https://twitter.com/RollingStones

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by lavendar on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 7:38pm
HORN DOGS

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by SheRat on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:51am
What sort of child says she can't fuck because she's "on her period"?

I call bullshit on the whole story. It was specious to begin with, but that calls the author's crediblity into question as a sniveling fanfic writer.

Mick wanted her, Mick fucked her, Jolie's mom was jealous and maybe tried to get them together in a more substantial relationship, Jolie and/or Mick were uninterested and/or unimpressed, end of.

Title: Re: Excerpts about Mick (and Charlie!) from Angelina Jolie's biography
Post by SheRat on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:53am
Okay, I stopped reading to respond to the period thing. but then kept reading. Who the fuck IS this person? We're supposed to believe CHARLIE got involved?!?!

LMAO!!!! I almost spit coffee on my laptop screen.

Fanfic. Total.


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