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Message started by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 2:23am

Title: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 2:23am
Great job, Scotland!

Rolling Stones all voted NO. (Precincts still reporting, only 60% vote in)

This is just good news, made this poster very happy.


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 20th, 2014 at 6:56am
Is this the new political thread? :-)

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Joey on Sep 20th, 2014 at 9:35am



" This is just good news, made this poster very happy.   "



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU1q6cy9GPY


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 9:36am
What?  Magoo?  No politics here, Bolivar. This is the Scotland thread.  Explain your geneticism and why you think you are qualified to express an opinion in it.  Make it brief, like 15 words or less.

Super fine!  Cloud nine.  A stitch in time.  What I want is mine.  Key lime.  Power line.

Magoo?

Lets get liquor.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Joey on Sep 20th, 2014 at 9:46am
"  Explain your geneticism and why you think you are qualified to express an opinion in it.  Make it brief, like  ................ "




Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Sep 20th, 2014 at 11:05am

sirmoonie wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 2:23am:
Rolling Stones all voted NO


Did Stu vote? He was the only Scottish member of the Rolling Stones; as far as I know only the Scottish voted


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 1:18pm
I don't know who's been feeding you that information, but the Stones were all firmly in the NO camp.  The Stones are the best!

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 20th, 2014 at 4:46pm
Next up...the OMAHA REFERENDUM

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 5:53pm
It is strange how we want a United Kingdom, yet most most real Americans pray every night that the South will live their Civil War dream of hitting the spitting road.  Trust us, no problems this time - door/ass/way out type sitch.  Curse you Lincoln, you goddam arc welding son of bitch!

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 20th, 2014 at 6:34pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 4:46pm:
Next up...the OMAHA REFERENDUM

You only need to change two letters in that name....... :loloncemore

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 20th, 2014 at 7:30pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 6:34pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 4:46pm:
Next up...the OMAHA REFERENDUM

You only need to change two letters in that name....... :loloncemore


Very clever Mr G...very clever indeed...from what I know about your American Political system, POTUS can only serve 8 yrs...the lemmings, regurgitators, and Plutocrats of both parties will have their day at the voting booths...soon enough...

Peace & Love...Peace & Love


Mother fucker...this has now turned into a dreaded political thread...!!!

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Starbuck on Sep 20th, 2014 at 8:41pm
I will withhold my opinions on this Scotland issue until Riffy makes his opinions known.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 20th, 2014 at 8:48pm

Starbuck wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 8:41pm:
I will withhold my opinions on this Scotland issue until Riffy makes his opinions known.

I agree with you, Fishbuck.  Better to get the real brain trust in here before we start mouthing off. Moof.

Moof.

Liquor?  May I have some more liquor, massa?

Marijuana appears to be legal in Montreal.  The streets are aromatic.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Starbuck on Sep 20th, 2014 at 11:24pm
Moonie, I swear the gods, I'm getting one of these for my basement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CWLCoQu7c#t=50

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 21st, 2014 at 8:11am

Starbuck wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CWLCoQu7c#t=50


Put a Lips/Tongue logo on that and would get one!!
Are ya listening RS.com???


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Bitch on Sep 21st, 2014 at 9:15am
Not too sure about UK politics but if there was a vote on it, there would have to be a strong interest to separate. There wasn't have enough support at this point in time. If the young people want it, eventually it will happen. My guess is the older folks want t keep it as-is and the young people want change.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 21st, 2014 at 10:27am
I don't believe for a second it's inevitable just because people who a currently young want it.  People's opinions change as they age.  That's a known constant.

I'm not sure the younger demographic was behind this, in any case.  I think the retard demographic was prominent in the YES campaign.  I haven't done a Venn diagram analysis of the overlap between young and retard.

This profiundly stupid and childish idea was defeated soundly.  It won't be raised again for decades, if ever. 

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Bitch on Sep 21st, 2014 at 3:21pm
Young people rebel and they get older and mellow out but new young people take over the rebellion. Not saying it is a good idea breaking away from the UK, but everyone will not be satisfied with the outcome.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 21st, 2014 at 3:43pm

Bitch wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Young people rebel and they get older and mellow out but new young people take over the rebellion. Not saying it is a good idea breaking away from the UK, but everyone will not be satisfied with the outcome.


Every generation has their rebellious youth...they never accomplish anything...money talks, losers walk...the last time a rebellious youth got their way in the US was with the rich,white  pot smoking, slave owning founding fathers of the 13 colonies...it took'em a few years and King George got bored...they got their due in 1814 though  (200 years ago last month) when DC was burned down by the Brits...

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 21st, 2014 at 9:04pm

Starbuck wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 8:41pm:
I will withhold my opinions on this Scotland issue until Riffy makes his opinions known.



You can lead a horse to the facts, but you can't make the horse understand the facts if he's a dumbfuck horse stuck on stupid.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 21st, 2014 at 11:21pm

Bitch wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Young people rebel and they get older and mellow out but new young people take over the rebellion. Not saying it is a good idea breaking away from the UK, but everyone will not be satisfied with the outcome.


I looked up some things on the demographic breakdown.  Apparently 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote on this (which is insane), and they went 71% for YES.  The majority of YES votes, however, were low income areas.  Some fucking irony there - who do they they think signs all the dole and welfare checks?

All that said, youthful "rebellion" did not play a role in this.  Scottish people are very proud of their country and they should be (one of top 3 races on planet).  That pride has led to great things in 95% of cases, but maybe that fervor got too much here.  Leaving the U.K. would, ironically, be almost unpatriotic.

By the way, the Scottish black vote was 90% for NO.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:32am
This could be moon wipe's Exile thread.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Joey on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:37am
"  ............  This could be moon wipe's Exile thread. "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG43l56Qvek

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Starbuck on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 1:20pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 9:04pm:
You can lead a horse to the facts, but you can't make the horse understand the facts if he's a dumbfuck horse stuck on stupid.


Stop stealing material from my signature.


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by gimmekeef on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 3:22pm
hopefully this will lead to lower prices for my Scotch.....

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 6:47pm

Starbuck wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 1:20pm:

Some Guy wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 9:04pm:
You can lead a horse to the facts, but you can't make the horse understand the facts if he's a dumbfuck horse stuck on stupid.


Stop stealing material from my signature.



you know that would be Riffy's sentiment.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Bitch on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:57pm
So Scotland is the #3 race on the planet? Who is 1 & 2, England and Ireland?

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:05pm
If we bring race into this, this thread will surely be stuck on dumb fuck.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by gorda on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:38am
I used to have pen-pal from Scotland.  We wrote for many years.  Then, sometime, in high-school, we just stopped writing.  I guess we were both too busy with school and work, etc.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Gazza on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:18am

sirmoonie wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 11:21pm:

Bitch wrote on Sep 21st, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Young people rebel and they get older and mellow out but new young people take over the rebellion. Not saying it is a good idea breaking away from the UK, but everyone will not be satisfied with the outcome.


I looked up some things on the demographic breakdown.  Apparently 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote on this (which is insane), and they went 71% for YES.  The majority of YES votes, however, were low income areas.  Some fucking irony there - who do they they think signs all the dole and welfare checks?

All that said, youthful "rebellion" did not play a role in this.  Scottish people are very proud of their country and they should be (one of top 3 races on planet).  That pride has led to great things in 95% of cases, but maybe that fervor got too much here.  Leaving the U.K. would, ironically, be almost unpatriotic.

By the way, the Scottish black vote was 90% for NO.



This bit (in bold) actually isnt actually true.


YouGov just published some analysis of the vote, and of the five age categories (16-24, 25-39, 40-59, 60-64 and over 65's) the only one with a majority of 'YES' voters was the 25-39 group (about 54%). A narrow majority of voters under 25 (just over 50%) voted 'NO', so if a majority of 16-17 were yes voters, it wouldnt have been by very much.

About 52% between 40-59, 55% between 60-64 and about 66% over 65 were 'NO' voters.

So, the 60-64 group was pretty reflective of the overall national vote.

Very high turnout, but if about 15% of the electorate still didnt even bother to vote, its hardly much of a ringing endorsement for anyone who wanted change.

It is, as you say, insane to let 16 and 17 year olds vote on this. Especially as they cant vote in any other elections (there will be Westminster elections next May and they'll be disenfranchised again as they will be in Scottish government elections, unless the law there is changed). Allowing them to vote was a demand by the Scottish National Party, based on the understandable assumption that they'd be far more likely to vote for independence. It didn't work.

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Gazza on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:19am

gorda wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:38am:
I used to have pen-pal from Scotland.  We wrote for many years.  Then, sometime, in high-school, we just stopped writing.  I guess we were both too busy with school and work, etc.


he probably just discovered that whisky was more powerful than tequila, Gorda...

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 25th, 2014 at 11:00pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:05pm:
If we bring race into this, this thread will surely be stuck on dumb fuck.

As opposed to the Joey thread?  :interestingstuffronnie :thatwassmart

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by gorda on Sep 26th, 2014 at 12:22am

Gazza wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:19am:
he probably just discovered that whiskey was more powerful than tequila, Gorda...


She was a girl.

P.S.  Whiskey, Tequila, Vodka, whatever!  They all kill your brain cells and make you throw up in the morning.


Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by sirmoonie on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:51am
Here is where I got that 71% number.  I should have looked at the underlying data more closely, but it does purports that 71% of those kids voted YES.

http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2014/09/19/scottish-referendum-who-voted-which-way/

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by mojoman on Sep 26th, 2014 at 6:49pm

sirmoonie wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:51am:
Here is where I got that 71% number.  I should have looked at the underlying data more closely, but it does purports that 71% of those kids voted YES.

http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2014/09/19/scottish-referendum-who-voted-which-way/


longshanks approved

Title: Re: Scotland Vote = No (Jagger content)
Post by Gazza on Sep 27th, 2014 at 1:32pm

gorda wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 12:22am:

Gazza wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:19am:
he probably just discovered that whiskey was more powerful than tequila, Gorda...


She was a girl.

P.S.  Whiskey, Tequila, Vodka, whatever!  They all kill your brain cells and make you throw up in the morning.



Scottish women are fond of their alcohol, too.

Even their beer is like rocket fuel compared to the stuff the rest of us mere mortals consume.

A few pints of 'heavy' and your stomach will know all about it!

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