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Message started by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:37pm

Title: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:37pm
I hate that fucking place. Fcuk those "people".

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:41pm
http://www.fknnewz.com/view/211/planet-moron-is-doomed/

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:46pm
Deek's pretty funny.

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:48pm
http://www.fknnewz.com/view/211/planet-moron-is-doomed/

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:49pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKmxEJLcsIQ

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:55pm
Home of the free? How about gutless cowards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMbATaj7Il8

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:59pm
http://www.antiwar.com/
Justin Raimondo is a real jounalist....at least he trys.

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:02pm
Whatever Happened To Western Morality?
Are All Americans Guilty?
By Paul Craig Roberts
1-3-9

On the last day of the old year in CounterPunch, two Israelis, Jeff Halper who heads the Israeli peace movement ICAHD and Neve Gordon who is chairman of the department of politics and government at Ben-Gurion University, asked, "Where's the Academic Outrage Over the Bombing of a University in Gaza?"
 
"Not one of the nearly 450 presidents of American colleges and universities who prominently denounced an effort by British academics to boycott Israeli universities in September 2007 have raised their voice in opposition to Israel's bombardment of the Islamic University of Gaza earlier this week," report Halper and Gordon. They note that Columbia University president Lee C. Bollinger, who has in the past ignorantly insulted Islamic representatives, "has been silent."
 
It is the goyim moralists who are silent, not the Jews. It is the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, not the goyim media, that provides reports of Israel's abuse of Palestinians. Gideon Levy's "The Neighborhood Bully Strikes Again" was published in Haaretz (29 December), not in the goyim press. Levy's words--"Once again, Israel's violent responses, even if there is justification for them, exceed all proportion and cross every red line of humaneness, morality, international law and wisdom"--are not words that can appear in American print or TV media. Such words, printed in Israeli newspapers, never reach the goyim.
 
The extent of Americans' ignorance is breathtaking. Israel has the Palestinians jammed into tightly controlled ghettos known as Gaza and the West Bank. With Egypt's help, Israel controls the inflows of food, medicines, water, and energy into Gaza. Palestinians in Gaza are not permitted to enter Israel or Egypt. Last week a humanitarian ship bringing food and medicine was rammed by Israeli gunboats and turned away.
 
In the West Bank Palestinians are walled off from their fields, jobs, medical care, education, water, and from one another by endless checkpoints, roads for "Jews only," walls, barbed wire, and machine gun towers. Palestinians are being evicted from their towns house by house, block by block.
 
Israel's slow theft of Palestine is illegal under international law but protected by US "diplomacy."
 
The Palestinians are no more of a threat to Israel than Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto were a threat to the Nazi state. Yet, everywhere in America--Congress, the executive branch, the print and TV media, the universities, evangelical Christian institutions--there is the belief that Israel is on the verge of annihilation by Palestinian terrorists. This ignorance, so carefully cultivated by the Israel Lobby, turns genocidal aggression into self-defense.
 
It fools Americans, but it doesn't fool Israelis. The Israelis have always known that "self-defense" is a cloak for a Zionist policy of territorial expansion. The policy is controversial within Israel. Many Israelis object, just as many Americans object to President Bush's illegal wars and violations of US civil liberties. Many Israelis give voice to their moral conscience, but they are overwhelmed by vested interests.
 
Karl Marx declared morality to be merely a mask for vested interests. The writings of Marx and Engels are scornful of good will and moral ideals as effective forces in history. The Israeli state epitomizes Marx's doctrine that power alone is the effective force.
 
Many American conservatives share the Israeli state's belief in the efficacy of power. Conservatives who turned against Bush's wars did so because the US was not brutal enough. They turned away from Bush's long inconclusive wars in the way that fans desert a losing team.
 
Americans used to say that "the pen is mightier than the sword," but this hasn't been the case for US and Israeli aggression. The success the two regimes have had in instilling fear into their populations is part of the explanation for the impotence of morality. Another part of the explanation is that vested interests are a powerful constraint on morality.
 
Consider the case of Lee Bollinger. Columbia University is dependent on Jewish money, faculty and students. If Bollinger were to take a stand against Israel's mistreatment of the Palestinians, he would be denounced as an anti-semite. Presidents of competitor universities would not come to his defense. They would pile on in hopes of recruiting Columbia's top faculty and students and redirecting the flow of financial resources from Columbia to themselves.
 
An American newspaper or TV network that took a stand against Israel's abuse of Palestinians would be confronted with an advertising boycott organized by AIPAC. American politicians who criticize Israel go down to defeat by Israel Lobby money.
 
Hegel gave too much emphasis to ideas, Marx too much to material interests. Both forces operate in the world. There are times in history when revolutionary ideas shatter material interests. Other times the two coexist in a balance of power. In other times material interests prevail over morality.
 
We are living in the latter time. Financial interests, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby are the powers that rule America. They are buttressed by neoconservatives and Christian Zionists and by the patriotic hubris that America is the main force for good operating in the world. The evils America commits are dismissed as necessary to the service of good. The destruction of Iraq, for example, is justified as "bringing freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people."
 
A number of commentators, including myself, predict a decline in America's economic power. As this occurs, Israel will have to abandon its policy of violence. With the accumulated hatred that its policies have fomented, Israel will be vulnerable.
 
The world will need to remember that although Israel is a Jewish state, it is a state whose policies many Jews find objectionable, just as a majority of American Jews oppose President Bush's wars of aggression in the Middle East and his unconstitutional policies at home. We must not confuse Israel's Zionist government with world Jewry, just as we must not confuse the American people with the war criminals in the Bush Regime.
 
Consider, who do you trust with your civil liberties, the US Department of Justice or the ACLU's phalanx of Jewish attorneys?
 
We must avoid the mistake that was made by blaming the German people for Hitler. It was the aristocratic German military that tried to remove Hitler. In contrast, Democratic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi blocked the attempt to impeach George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Pelosi is a discredit to California, but shall we blame all of America for Pelosi's defense of war criminals? How can we do so when US Rep. Dennis Kucinich courageously read out the articles of impeachment on the House floor?
 
Are all Americans guilty because Kucinich did not prevail?
 
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: [email protected]


Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:03pm
"The extent of Americans' ignorance is breathtaking"

So what's new?

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:08pm
"It fools Americans, but it doesn't fool Israelis"

Americans are basically idiots. Everyone takes that as a forgone conclusion. Everyone KNOWS that. Its a given.

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:16pm
What are you snowed in or something Motsie :necrophillicpost

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:20pm
FUCK THOSE GANGSTERS.

I gotta rocket for you.

http://saraschaefer.com/ss/middle_finger.jpg


Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:31pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:16pm:
What are you snowed in or something Motsie :necrophillicpost



No. I'm another old inconsequential old man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEe0xwSEEB0

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:45pm
Personally I hate the fuckin place. It's NOT my kinda town. I hate them all equally. Jews and gentiles alike. Men and wmen alike. I hate "being here"....tt was fun. I hate being human.  But...

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 5:52pm
But I do like this shit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olU8eMJ6g20&feature=related

Title: Re: Goddam Israel
Post by Unholy Trinity on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 7:07pm

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 4:37pm:
I hate that fucking place. Fcuk those "people".



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