The Rolling Stones tour without Wood

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Tuesday, July 22, 2008: (London) :

The Rolling Stones are considering going ahead with their upcoming tour without Ronnie Wood.

There have been rumours that Wood had left his wife, Jo, for a 20-year-old Russian waitress.

Mick Jagger, reportedly wants to carry on with the forthcoming tour, even if it means leaving Wood at home.

According to a source, "Mick officially becomes a pensioner at the end of July and Keith (Richards) at the end of the year, and I think Mick wants to get another tour under his belt in case it gets to the point where he can't do any more."

"Ronnie has always had his drink and drug problems but his marriage was rock solid. What's happened now is just something else and Mick and everyone can't quite believe it. Mick is still dead set on going on tour and has even said that they will do the gigs without Ronnie if it comes to it," adds the source.

Pals are hopeful the tour might give Ronnie the impetus to get himself right again and try to salvage his 23 year old marriage

(story appears in todays Daily Express)

Bring Mick T home! :wow

Hope this is another one of the stupid rumours going around lately...  :wtf3

What would be the point of going on like that?
Just think about it. Imagine if Keith suddenly can't tour cause of his fingers or his head. Then it would be the Stones without Ronnie and Keith. Then what if Charlie decided to stay at home?

Even the thought is ridiculous.

then it will be Mick, Jimmy Rip, Joe Satriani .... ermmm  hang on ....


:perverted

The whole thing sounds like a public service announcement from the Stones publicity department primarily aimed as a wake-up call for you-know-who....

Daily Express !

more likely a complete fabrication. Europe next year ?....................not a chance.

sc uk

A little Stones buzz about a phantom tour either to hype the SAL DVD next week or a not so subtle shot to Ronnie. Europe tour?. Hey for you guys overe there I hope its true but seriously doubt it.

" more likely a complete fabrication. Europe next year ?....................not a chance. "

Concur .


Europe ( like the United States ) is COMPLETELY ' Stones Saturated ' .


If they were smart the band would tour Australia / Asia / India  / even Dubai . Word .



" Hit Me Ronnie ! "


J Sea Scroll !

gimmekeef wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 7:58am:

A little Stones buzz about a phantom tour either to hype the SAL DVD next week or a not so subtle shot to Ronnie. Europe tour?. Hey for you guys overe there I hope its true but seriously doubt it.

The implication that any tour is "upcoming" is absolute horseshit.

There's absolutely no indication from any credible source that the Stones have any concert activity planned in the near future - certainly not in 2008 and probably not for at least 12 months.

Joey wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 7:59am:

" more likely a complete fabrication. Europe next year ?....................not a chance. " Concur . Europe ( like the United States ) is COMPLETELY ' Stones Saturated ' . If they were smart the band would tour Australia / Asia / India  / even Dubai . Word . " Hit Me Ronnie ! " J Sea Scroll !

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Gazza wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:02am:

The implication that any tour is "upcoming" is absolute horseshit. There's absolutely no indication from any credible source that the Stones have any concert activity planned in the near future - certainly not in 2008 and probably not for at least 12 months.

And also there were absolutely no quotes in the article. If Mick really said they will tour next year they would have stuck a quote or two in there. I don't believe a word of it.

will there be a next year?

" ........ will there be a next year? "


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Wait..if there was to be a 2009 tour hell they'd be selling fanclub memberships and presales already.Gotta be BS then....

i'm so excited!!!.......woody


                 

i'm so excited i'm typing this with ron wood's penis!!!............Ekaterina

i have heard keith say, no charlie, no rolling stones.  this i can believe.  but also, at this stage of the game i am starting to believe, no ron wood no rolling stones.  the guy has become to much of a fixture now i believe.  i would bet if he didn't tour with mick, keith and charlie i bet about 1/2 the fans would show up, maybe a tad more.  he is not just a guitar player anymore...know what i mean?

:wtf1

Yeah, bring Mick T back!!!  That would be awesome.  But it wont happen.  

all this is "tabloid speculation"

or the other word is "horseshit"

you see one direct quote anywhere?

wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 6:13pm:

i have heard keith say, no charlie, no rolling stones.  this i can believe.  but also, at this stage of the game i am starting to believe, no ron wood no rolling stones.  the guy has become to much of a fixture now i believe.  i would bet if he didn't tour with mick, keith and charlie i bet about 1/2 the fans would show up, maybe a tad more.  he is not just a guitar player anymore...know what i mean? :wtf1

yeah it wouldnt be the same without Woody, would it? Maybe someone great could pull it off, but it wouldnt be the true Stones. Like now when you go to see THE BEACH BOYS, there are no original Beach boys left in the band anymore! So its The Beach Boys cover band, and the RS without RONNIE, the stand-in would be a cover person, not a real Stone. Not that I'm saying no one else could play the licks, because thats totally possible. As a matter of fact Satisfaction the RS Cover band plays the Stones better than the Stones themselves, because they duplicate the songs exactly as they were originally played on the albums, and the RS cant do that anymore!

YEAH!  :perverted :perverted :perverted Finally FINALLY TOUR!....  Would be perfect with Ronnie thou...  

But this is quite weird they do another tour in europe? not even new record? Not even tour to North america?

Hit Me Ronnie!!! :funny

Bitch wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:04pm:

Like now when you go to see THE BEACH BOYS, there are no original Beach boys left in the band anymore!

'Cept for Mike Love...

What about John Stamos?

Holden wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:47pm:

What about John Stamos?

Uncle Jesse an original Beach Boy??

Not hardly.

Haha I know...:(

But he did tour with them once.

" What about John Stamos ? "



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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:00pm:

all this is "tabloid speculation" or the other word is "horseshit" you see one direct quote anywhere?

Right on, Meg.


Now why do so many folks go overboard just because "Daily >fucking< Express" announces a tour??? ...and when???
stuff it, it's pure bollox. :hilarious

No mention of what the combined age would be in 2009.  Sounds like basura to me.

sirmoonie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 11:29pm:

No mention of what the combined age would be in 2009.  Sounds like basura to me.

the combined age is 2009......

Aint no tour nowhere unless someone invades another oil rich country and takes over the pumps.

" Aint no tour nowhere unless someone invades another oil rich country and takes over the pumps. "


Corgi is " THE KING !!! "



" Hit Me Ronnie ! "


J. Fly !

Bitch wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:04pm:

Not that I'm saying no one else could play the licks, because thats totally possible. As a matter of fact Satisfaction the RS Cover band plays the Stones better than the Stones themselves, because they duplicate the songs exactly as they were originally played on the albums, and the RS cant do that anymore!

They're not meant to - thats the whole point of being a performing band.

I wonder if Mick will be releasing some solo material in the meantime.  An EP or something on-line.  By the way, I noticed Dave Stewart has removed his reference of working with Mick in the studio...

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luxury wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 10:00am:

By the way, I noticed Dave Stewart has removed his reference of working with Mick in the studio...

Thanks I needed some good news!

Gazza,

The title of this thread talks about The Stones touring in Europe.

However, I'm not seeing mention or reference of any country or continent in the article. All I'm seeing printed is simply a "tour".

Not to imply that I could care less about a tour in Europe or anything. I just noted the title of this thread is sort of strange based on it's content.

Ian

That is a keen eye you have there, Billen.

You are not like the typical sickos around here.

Have your ever given any serious thought to a career in law enforcement?

Stones Security wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 5:10pm:

That is a keen eye you have there, Billen. You are not like the typical sickos around here. Have your ever given any serious thought to a career in law enforcement?

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Law Enforcement? Not really, lol. I always assess things by just looking at simply what is stated by someone speaking or reading the print without any pre-conceived idea.

The only time any reading into something should be done is if they leave you not much to go on. Then you have to.

That's all.

Other wise, I try and go by exactly what is stated. It isn't really a "keen eye". Just a simple "taking things for what they are" approach is all.

Ian

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 4:56pm:

Gazza, The title of this thread talks about The Stones touring in Europe. However, I'm not seeing mention or reference of any country or continent in the article. All I'm seeing printed is simply a "tour". Not to imply that I could care less about a tour in Europe or anything. I just noted the title of this thread is sort of strange based on it's content. Ian

Good point.

The story as it was printed in the Daily Express mentioned Europe. It wasnt online however at the time I then found the story on the internet. The (syndicated) online version of it - aimed as it is at a wider audience - doesnt give any specific details.

Wouldnt read too much into the 'Europe' part of it anyway. a European/UK newspaper will tend to put a 'local' angle on it to keep it 'relevant'.

Gazza wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 9:15am:

Bitch wrote on Jul 22nd, 2008 at 8:04pm: Not that I'm saying no one else could play the licks, because thats totally possible. As a matter of fact Satisfaction the RS Cover band plays the Stones better than the Stones themselves, because they duplicate the songs exactly as they were originally played on the albums, and the RS cant do that anymore! They're not meant to - thats the whole point of being a performing band.

yes, I know the RS dont duplicate the songs as played on the albums, because they dont play that way. My point is, some other guitar player could replace Ronnie by playing the songs 'by the book' and it could work.

Gazza Wrote:

"Good point.

The story as it was printed in the Daily Express mentioned Europe. It wasnt online however at the time I then found the story on the internet. The (syndicated) online version of it - aimed as it is at a wider audience - doesnt give any specific details.

Wouldnt read too much into the 'Europe' part of it anyway. a European/UK newspaper will tend to put a 'local' angle on it to keep it 'relevant'."

__________________________

Oh I see. Yeah your right, online versions can differ. Thanks for clearing that up.


Ian

Bitch wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 9:22pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 23rd, 2008 at 9:15am: Bitch wrote on Jul 22nd, 2008 at 8:04pm: Not that I'm saying no one else could play the licks, because thats totally possible. As a matter of fact Satisfaction the RS Cover band plays the Stones better than the Stones themselves, because they duplicate the songs exactly as they were originally played on the albums, and the RS cant do that anymore! They're not meant to - thats the whole point of being a performing band. yes, I know the RS dont duplicate the songs as played on the albums, because they dont play that way. My point is, some other guitar player could replace Ronnie by playing the songs 'by the book' and it could work.

Not sure how that means it would 'work' as it defeats the purpose of live performance to sound like a record. Do people actually go to see concerts merely wanting to hear an exact duplication of a studio recording? God help us. Maybe for bands that are predominantly synthesiser or programme-based but certainly not for a guitar-orientated band. I dont know of any proper band who attempt to do that.

Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think.

Gazza wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:39am:

Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think.

The Eagles do it every night with 30-year-old recordings.

**shudder**

Just a passing thought, and probably a too wild one... but if the Stones did have to tour and or/record without Ronnie, there is still one original surviving member who is still in good health and still plays well and would be able to slot back right back in, giving back that original lineup authenticity without compromising quality. And although he is now in his early seventies, he only has to just stand there and play his bass, no need to leap around, cause that's all he ever did.

As for Ronnie's guitar parts, there is another very intersting English guitarist who may be able to sit in for a tour. His name is Eric and he has a long parallel history to the Stones.

Just some wild thoughts....

Indeed. However, the bassist in question has no interest in touring with the Stones plus there's the significant issue of his aversion to flying.

Both problems were significant factors in the reasons for his departure and unfortunately I havent seen any indication that they have been or will be overcome.

Cant see the Stones bringing in someone as high profile as Clapton, to be honest but at least its a change from the delusional Taylor lobbying we've had to read in the last week which has been akin to vultures swooping on a still warm carcass..

SweetVirginia wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:51am:

Gazza wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 6:39am: Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think. The Eagles do it every night with 30-year-old recordings. **shudder**

Maybe they try to - I dont know, as I dont listen to them. Bit of a difference between 60's and 70's studio recordings though.

However, you're reinforcing my point - we'd be at a pretty low ebb if the Stones were the sort of Eagles-like band who were trying to soullessly duplicate their studio material on a concert stage.

I'd rather swallow razor blades than endure that.

Agreed! The Stones never sound the same twice on a particular song.

Why go see a band live if you're just going to hear duplication of their studio work? Makes it look like they are miming to a recording.

Yuck.

SweetVirginia wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 7:10am:

Agreed! The Stones never sound the same twice on a particular song. Why go see a band live if you're just going to hear duplication of their studio work? Makes it look like they are miming to a recording. Yuck.

you know they could do that..

I witnessed ZZ Top doing that 2 years ago..

you had to look really close because of their damn beards...
But old eagle eyes Meg doesn't miss a trick....

Gazza wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:39am:

Bitch wrote on Jul 23rd, 2008 at 9:22pm: Gazza wrote on Jul 23rd, 2008 at 9:15am: Bitch wrote on Jul 22nd, 2008 at 8:04pm: Not that I'm saying no one else could play the licks, because thats totally possible. As a matter of fact Satisfaction the RS Cover band plays the Stones better than the Stones themselves, because they duplicate the songs exactly as they were originally played on the albums, and the RS cant do that anymore! They're not meant to - thats the whole point of being a performing band. yes, I know the RS dont duplicate the songs as played on the albums, because they dont play that way. My point is, some other guitar player could replace Ronnie by playing the songs 'by the book' and it could work. Not sure how that means it would 'work' as it defeats the purpose of live performance to sound like a record. Do people actually go to see concerts merely wanting to hear an exact duplication of a studio recording? God help us. Maybe for bands that are predominantly synthesiser or programme-based but certainly not for a guitar-orientated band. I dont know of any proper band who attempt to do that. Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think.

What makes the Stones The Fuckin Stones is how they take studio gems like Rambler and turn them into smoldering asskickers live.If you prefer studio reproductions then Pink Floyd is the way to go.

" What makes the Stones The Fuckin Stones is how they take studio gems like Rambler and turn them into smoldering asskickers live.If you prefer studio reproductions then Pink Floyd is the way to go. "


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Gazza wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:39am:

Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think.

True dat. The Studio versions sometimes have up to 4 or 5 different guitar tracks in them. That's a lot of Blondies!

Holden wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 10:42am:

Gazza wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 6:39am: Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think. True dat. The Studio versions sometimes have up to 4 or 5 different guitar tracks in them. That's a lot of Blondies!

I believe Keith himself laid down 7 tracks of guitar for Gimmeshelter imho their penultimate recording.Always love the liner notes for LIB when most tracks just say:
Guitars: Keith Richards

gimmekeef wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 11:01am:

Holden wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:42am: Gazza wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 6:39am: Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think. True dat. The Studio versions sometimes have up to 4 or 5 different guitar tracks in them. That's a lot of Blondies! I believe Keith himself laid down 7 tracks of guitar for Gimmeshelter imho their penultimate recording.Always love the liner notes for LIB when most tracks just say: Guitars: Keith Richards

think I read somewhere that Street Fighting Man had about 12 guitars on it.

Gazza wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 1:23pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:01am: Holden wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:42am: Gazza wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 6:39am: Its also pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate 40 year old studio recordings anyway, I would think. True dat. The Studio versions sometimes have up to 4 or 5 different guitar tracks in them. That's a lot of Blondies! I believe Keith himself laid down 7 tracks of guitar for Gimmeshelter imho their penultimate recording.Always love the liner notes for LIB when most tracks just say: Guitars: Keith Richards think I read somewhere that Street Fighting Man had about 12 guitars on it.

Those were the days huh? When they actually gave a fuck about their craft. These days they wouldnt know a dulcimer from Blondies ass.

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Those were the days huh? When they actually gave a fuck about their craft. These days they wouldnt know a dulcimer from Blondies ass.
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Dunno about 12 guitars, but they are no electric guitars on it.

" think I read somewhere that Street Fighting Man had about 12 guitars on it "


True DAT !!!!!