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Title: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by justinkurian on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:49am
Rolling Stones Guitarist Keith Richards Slams David Bowie
He's not a huge fan... by Jason Gregory 30 April 2008 Photo by: WENN More The Rolling Stones More David Bowie Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards has confessed that he is “not a huge fan” of David Bowie. Speaking in this month’s Uncut magazine, Richards said that ‘Changes’, which appears on Bowie’s fourth album ‘Hunky Dory’, was the only song by the artist that he could “remember”. "It's all pose. It's all fucking posing. It's nothing to do with music He knows it too,” Richards said. “I can't think of anything else he's done that would make my hair stand up." The Rolling Stones film ‘Shine A Light’ is currently on release at cinemas across the world. The film, directed by Martin Scorsese, follows the band during their two performances at the Beacon Theatre in New York in 2006. http://www.gigwise.com/news/42820/rolling-stones-guitarist-keith-richards-slams-david-bowie |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by MrPleasant on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:50am
Whatever.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Some Guy on May 2nd, 2008 at 8:13am
Tattoo You last Stones smash album
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Nellcote on May 2nd, 2008 at 8:18am
Keith does not have much hair left to stand up.
Bowie is great, enjoys a superb catalog of work. Has a great looking wife as well. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Egon on May 2nd, 2008 at 8:37am
he makes it very hard to still think of him as cool....
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Some Guy on May 2nd, 2008 at 9:10am
jb would be disgusted.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2008 at 9:53am
Keith has evolved into a self-satisfied prick.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Steel Wheels on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:17am
Keith really is a fucking ball buster. He picks on Jimmy Page all the time and now Bowie.
Why can't we all just get along? Although to be honest, how many of us can't stand people in our peer group? Keith is into the blues cats and not much of his peer group outside of Clapton and Harrision get his respect. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:26am Steel Wheels wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:17am:
He seems like your typical curmudgeonly old man. You can see why Mick has trouble getting along with him: Keith is a lot of mouth and no productivity. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Heart Of Stone on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:38am Steel Wheels wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:17am:
I totally agree, when the 70's came, The stones already did the 60's, so they were old hands at it, & all these theatrical artists, who were not so much into the blues (although Jean Genie is I'm a man, with a chorus change) so it's like me today, my generation was the 60's & 70's, I don't like rap, hiphop, & a lot of today's music, but I can see what he means, it's age, but Bowie is a veteran at it now, he's old school now, but he's influenced so many artists in the 80's & 90's, I remember Gary Newman, (cars) in the 80's, was a clone of Bowie's Thin White Duke period. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by lotsajizz on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:40am
Keith is a grumpy old man.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Holden on May 2nd, 2008 at 10:45am
Keith better watch it before someone big starts retaliating by talking about his playing.
I never "got" Bowie either, to be honest. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Joey on May 2nd, 2008 at 11:07am < ----- BEST KEITH YET !!!!!!! Concur Lil' Fella ( Lil' Fijikins ) |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by ijwthstd on May 2nd, 2008 at 11:40am
Keith should stop giving interviews.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Steel Wheels on May 2nd, 2008 at 11:55am
At least he's honest. I get so sick of people claiming to love everyone's work. He may be off-base, but he's honest, and that's enough for me.
Keith is a blues lover through and through, and the theatrics that crept into popular music in the 70's had no roots in Muddy and John Lee and going down to the crossroads so naturally he will dismiss it. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Egon on May 2nd, 2008 at 12:17pm Steel Wheels wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 11:55am:
Yeah, and the rolling stones are still a real band. Come on, keef can say all he wants, but all these peope he dissing are actual still "real" artists/bands, whether you like them or not The stones sadyl, have not been for many many years! And as far as keef being the musical leader of the group... well.. He's critisising others, but stood by while the stones turned from a real band into a circus... |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Pdog on May 2nd, 2008 at 12:37pm
So says the man who released A Bigger Bang!
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Child of the Moon on May 2nd, 2008 at 1:53pm
Okay, Keith. Whatever. It's been said before, but put out some new music before you go shooting yer mouth off. :willya
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Nellcote on May 2nd, 2008 at 2:23pm
The more I think about this, the crazier it is as a statement.
Keith sings You Got The Silver in a Tony Bennett mode, like some balladeer pretending to be a guitarist, which is such a joke. I'm not sorry to say that the recylcling of his riffs is annoying. You know when "that sound" is about to come in. Some of his better moments have been when he's guesting, such as "Too Close Together" from Peter Wolf's Sleepless. It's great to say it's time to get the boys together, however, show some creativity. Bowie is fresh, innovative, creative. And, he's retired at least four times, and come back as another person, genre, which is fine in my book. He does have a knack of playing with great guitarists who pass away all too young. And, again, he has a hot wife. Right, I said it twice. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by axl79 on May 2nd, 2008 at 2:51pm
It's just Keef statement , nothing to take it serioursly. He slams Bowie for posing ?
I mean, he are out on stage together with rock n roll biggest poser, and he complains on Bowie. Get a smoke man :weed |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2008 at 4:16pm Quote:
Judgement no doubt passed with only one hand on the guitar... |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by jdlaw on May 2nd, 2008 at 5:51pm
Am I on the right board? I thought this was a Rolling Stones board, and not a David Bowie one. I don't care for Bowie either, and can see where Keith is coming from. In terms of actual importance to rock/music history, Bowie isn't fit to hold Keef's jock strap! Bowie is more a media creation then actual substance, IMO. Now Keith dissing on Jimmy Page is something I DON'T agree with. :'( That said, I LOVE it that he'll express his opinion and that no one can influence it!
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by ijwthstd on May 2nd, 2008 at 6:31pm jdlaw wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 5:51pm:
Yes, you are on a Stones board, a board in which most members are firmly grounded in reality, which, sadly, Keith no longer appears to be. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Marty McFly on May 2nd, 2008 at 6:33pm
Keith is being honest, but honestly i don't give a fuck about what he thinks about Bowie or anyone.
As Otis used to sing "action speaks louder than words", I want a new solo album, with or without the Winos, not another interview. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.... :youmademecrylikeababy |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by jdlaw on May 2nd, 2008 at 6:52pm ijwthstd wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 6:31pm:
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. Personally, I think Keith hit the nail on the head. Even if it was rude to say (Keith don't care). I just found it weird that everyone had Bowie's back, and not Keith's. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by mojoman on May 2nd, 2008 at 6:57pm
dudes are old.............
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Heart Of Stone on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:11pm
Jdlaw, I think what people are saying is that Keith is knocking Bowie (as Nellcote mentioned-He's fresh, Innovative & creative) but not looking at himself, his playing now is sloopy, I mean on Shine A Light where he does SMU, it's just chords with rhythm, & he made a boo boo on that, he's pissed half the time, if not all the time, & he's not doing anything new, so he just knocks anybody he doesn't like in interviews, it's like before you throw the first stone, take a look at yourself.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Glimmer Twin on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:40pm jdlaw wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 5:51pm:
;D Yes I agree. I side with Keith. Boweie's got more than just the one song "Changes" but not a hell of a lot more. I do think he's over rated. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:47pm Heart Of Stone wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:11pm:
Surprising, considering he ripped The McCoys in another interview... ;) |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Pdog on May 2nd, 2008 at 8:45pm Glimmer Twin wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:40pm:
I'm pretty sure I know what I like, and Keith busting on another artist is pretty lame. I don't like The Eagles, in fact, I loathe them. BUT!!! They do what they do, and it makes them rich and happy, and it's their art, you can't really slag that!!! Even though it sucks!!! |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Sioux on May 3rd, 2008 at 12:19am
As Keith does this more and more {slags on other musicians}, he will tend to lose credibility. Yes, he is sounding like an old man...and not a very respectful one at that. "It's nothing to do with music..." Really? Why doesn't he just say he doesn't care for {or remember, for that matter!} much of Bowie's stuff. But to say that it has nothing to do with music.....
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by throbby on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:44am |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Heart Of Stone on May 3rd, 2008 at 7:09am |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Holden on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:08pm
He might just be bitter and jealous of other musicians because he knows his performance abilities have gone way down while others have aged relatively well. Slagging them just helps him release his frustrations.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by jdlaw on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:12pm Heart Of Stone wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:11pm:
I agree that Keith is not what he once was. Maybe it's caused from years of drug abuse, maybe he's just lazy. Dunno. That said, all anyone has to do is put on a 1964-1972 show (say a 1970 European show for example) and you'll be reminded of Keef's greatness. I LOOOVE the versions of Jumpin Jack Flash from that 1970 tour (Keef's harmonys give it that extra something). |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by robpop on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:40pm
Are they sure Keith really said that. It could have been Blondie speaking from behind the curtain.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by left shoe shuffle on May 3rd, 2008 at 7:26pm robpop wrote on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:40pm:
:o |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Glimmer Twin on May 3rd, 2008 at 7:38pm Pdog wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 8:45pm:
I agree. Though I may agree with Keith, it's not becoming of him to keep doing this. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Bitch on May 3rd, 2008 at 7:47pm
KEEF also said the only decent song Bowie did was CHANGES. So Keef doesnt dig Bowie's music, it could be a put down because BOWIE is more of a showman than a musician, and KEEF wants to position himself as a superior musician. I'm better than you are, lol. Aww you're just a big poser! Baby!
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by lovestreet on May 3rd, 2008 at 8:34pm
Someone mentonned here that Bowie has a gorgeous wife... You got that right! Just look at this Somalian beauty...Hard to beat!
CORBIS Although Keith is a man I always admired, I believe he was not thinking straight when he slamed Bowie. Sure, different music and style but Bowie is one of a kind. Often imitated but never equaled - always a true original. Truly a unique artist. I wish Keith would have think twice before yapping away such nonsense. Yeah, definitly, that comment made him sound like a bitter old man... Keith, i still look up to you, but, sincerely, you should zip it sometime. :willya |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Soldatti on May 3rd, 2008 at 9:07pm
No more interviews for Keith, please.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Child of the Moon on May 3rd, 2008 at 11:41pm robpop wrote on May 3rd, 2008 at 6:40pm:
Ha-HA! I fucking knew it! |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by GhostofBrianJones on May 5th, 2008 at 1:22am
Sometime back maybe a year or so, I saw the last part of the Ellen DeGeneres show and David Bowie was one of her
guests. He was talking about some rabbit that was part of the group (like I said I caught the very end of this) and she just turned away from him like he was not even there. I felt so bad for David and do not understand why she did this. If anyone has seen that particular show, please tell what happened. It sounded like a funny story David was telling, and it ended so strangely. Thanks if anyone knows about this show. :) 8-) :( :charliesgoodtonite |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by corgi37 on May 5th, 2008 at 4:39am
I totally endorse Keith's comments.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by texile on May 5th, 2008 at 8:04pm [I agree that Keith is not what he once was. Maybe it's caused from years of drug abuse, maybe he's just lazy. Dunno. That said, all anyone has to do is put on a 1964-1972 show (say a 1970 European show for example) and you'll be reminded of Keef's greatness. I LOOOVE the versions of Jumpin Jack Flash from that 1970 tour (Keef's harmonys give it that extra something). [/quote] no one here is denying keith his own greatness - but he really does need to shut the fuck up. it doesn't even sound like jealousy, just cattiness.... he's too lazy to form a well-thoughout opinion about anything he doesn't understand. he's stuck in his void of sycophants who accept keith and all his bad habits... i'm sick of this 'keith is being honest' bullshit - five-year olds are honest too. jagger said it best a few years ago: 'keith can be a bit of a bigot about things...' |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by homesickjameswilliamson on May 6th, 2008 at 7:31am
Wow, wow, wow, Hold On Everyone!!!!
ITS KEITH!! Come On We all know not to take him seriously, if Uncut were doin a lou reed magazine, or a john lennon magazine or a dylan magazine or whomever keith probly woulda said the same thing - its all just attention grabbing, he does it so well too, see how much he got up stones fans here!! thats all it is, he probly really likes some of bowies albums, he knows all he does now is pose himself, he cant talk, its just shit stirring u'no wat he's like, dont take him seriously its just so the stones can keep in the newspapers/magazines while the movie and soundtracks out there HJW .... also... Quote:
BULLSHIT!!!!! Not to cause a wedge r nething, and im not doin it to spite you but bowie is one of the spongisest artists ever from velvets/lou reed to iggy pop to americana to bob dylan to space/scifi etc, he's a chamaleon (and he'll freely admit it) he absorbs different moods, styles, personas and uses them, same thing the stones did, but he's hardly a true original, he's actually exactly like the stones, (as picasso said - least i think its picasso) "its not what you steal, its how you steal it" the true originals are the ppl they stole from! (btw i love bowie! - just incase you think im on the keith bandwagon! lol) |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Jumacfly on May 6th, 2008 at 7:39am
Considering his lame playing on SAL(bless you Ronnie for filling the gaps) , I think Keef should shut the fuck up...
Bowie called the Stones tour the "Barnum" a few years ago, and was fuckin right... I love Keef but he really tend to become a old fart. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Joey on May 6th, 2008 at 7:54am
" Bowie called the Stones tour the "Barnum" a few years ago, and was fuckin right...
I love Keef but ... " Hi Baby Juma .... Weeding this evening ?! ....hashishing ?! Please ..... I's Justs GOT'S to's knows . Baby Joe |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Jumacfly on May 6th, 2008 at 8:56am
Joey!!!
i m getting dry...I have to look for more hashish tonight. anyway my weed is growing and will be ready in one month!! |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Joey on May 6th, 2008 at 11:17am
" i m getting dry... "
What ?! !!!!!!!! " I have to look for more hashish tonight. anyway my weed is growing and will be ready in one month!! " You make Joey smile :weed |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Jeep on May 6th, 2008 at 11:25am lovestreet wrote on May 3rd, 2008 at 8:34pm:
Yesterday night in NYC : |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Heart Of Stone on May 6th, 2008 at 1:07pm Jeep wrote on May 6th, 2008 at 11:25am:
He sure has a sexy beautiful wife, when I first told someone he got married to Iman, the person thought I said a man, Bowie has aged great, considering all that Cocaine he did in the 70's, compared to this picture. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by corgi37 on May 7th, 2008 at 5:20am
Bowie calling the Stones "Barnum"??? This from the same guy who had a glass spider stage and hovered over the audience clutching a skull on a hydraulic arm? The same dude who vowed - VOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - he would never, ever again perform his hits live.
keith is right and i love it. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by SweetVirginia on May 7th, 2008 at 5:49am Jumacfly wrote on May 6th, 2008 at 7:39am:
Mick's sparkling cutaway jackets are certainly "Barnum" |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Marty on May 7th, 2008 at 7:21am SweetVirginia wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 5:49am:
And that L'Wren girl sure looks like she's straight out of some barnum... Didn't she had a part in that "Freaks" movie from the 20s? |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Kilroy on May 12th, 2008 at 10:31pm
Yes Keith, No Bowie. ;D :blankfriggingstare1
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Heart Of Stone on May 13th, 2008 at 5:35am Heart Of Stone wrote on May 6th, 2008 at 1:07pm:
He sure has a sexy beautiful wife, when I first told someone he got married to Iman, the person thought I said a man, Bowie has aged great, considering all that Cocaine he did in the 70's, compared to this picture. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by Wild Bill on May 13th, 2008 at 10:15am Steel Wheels wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 11:55am:
Yeah, put him in the US Senate or House for some real fun! |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by gimmekeef on May 13th, 2008 at 11:31am
Keith says what he feels and sometimes I'm sure is misquoted. If he can slag Zep then Bowie is certainly fair game.Bowie is notoriuosly cheap and no doubt resents the vast fortune the Stones have made touring behind their legacy.Keiths drinking is affecting his playing and ability to create new music.I wish he'd focus on that instead of lashing out at long gone folks like The Thin White Puke.
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by ijwthstd on May 13th, 2008 at 11:49am gimmekeef wrote on May 13th, 2008 at 11:31am:
Actually Bowie is probably wealthier than Mick or Keith. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by gimmekeef on May 13th, 2008 at 3:44pm ijwthstd wrote on May 13th, 2008 at 11:49am:
Quickly researched that in 1994 Mick was listed by Forbes with 90 million pounds...Keith at 70 million and Bowie at 20 million. I can only imagine how much the margin has widened since then.Thus my comment. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by ijwthstd on May 13th, 2008 at 3:57pm gimmekeef wrote on May 13th, 2008 at 3:44pm:
He made a load of money selling off the rights to his catalog in the late '90's and then the 2003-2004 tour grossed around a hundred million with a small production and without having to split the take. There have been no divorces or paternity suits the last few decades. All the lists are estimates but the estimates coming out in the late '90's - early '00 put him way up in the upper echelons alongside McCartney and Elton John. He ain't hurting for money and doesn't have any reason to be jealous. And his sporadic touring is personal choice, not lack of booking opportunities. He founded Ultrastar which admisters fan clubs and fan club websites and which was used by the Stones in 2002/2003 so he is even making money off them. It makes Keith's comments all the more ridiculous considering their mutually beneficial relationships though it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even have the first clue they were there. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by gimmekeef on May 13th, 2008 at 4:00pm ijwthstd wrote on May 13th, 2008 at 3:57pm:
Fair enough he may have no financial cares or concerns but I'd still bet he's well behind Mick and Keith.Anyway who knows for sure and they dont use me for tax prep. |
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Title: Re: Keith Richards Slams David Bowie Post by homesickjameswilliamson on May 13th, 2008 at 7:12pm He sold the catalog, but spent a lot of money gettin it back i think, i remember reading an article about it in mojo or Q ages ago, also i dont think hes on the rich list that the times released recently HJW |
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