1) It was back in July that I started speculating about no Stones tour in 2025.
I based this on both market uncertainties and market saturation in Europe.
These two factors are still very much in play.

2) On November 18 the London Evening Standard reported that the Stones
would announce their Euro tour "in the next several weeks" (this is the
"news" that was bizarrely re-printed on Chuck Leavell's facebook
recently). We also had various Stones sources publishing "firm" dates
for Paris and several other cities. People started reserving flights and hotels.

3) FYI the farthest B Vik has gone so far is to state that the Stones are
"definitely planning to tour Europe"

4) However I think it is clear at this point that they are definitely not planning
any such thing. This is the exact same tease they did in late 2022 for
a 2023 tour when they knew (and I correctly predicted) that 2023 was
reserved exclusively for the new album.

5) And, as I reported a few weeks ago, we now have it on very good
authority (IORR's rocky dijon) "in November of this year, the Stones were
moved from Geffen to the reactivated A&M Records roster indicating a
release is expected in 2025... the decision to assign an artist to a particular
division is to allocate resources for marketing and distribution".

6) Since there's been no major recording sessions recently, this new
record is obviously the one I've been calling "Hackney Diamonds Redux".
As far as I'm concerned, it is GREAT news that Universal has determined
that "Redux" is a major release with major marketing, and not just
an archive thing.

7) Major marketing means major involvement by CEO Mick throughout
2025. Everything from planning all the rorshach splotch vinyl editions
to the videos and mag covers and podcast interviews and getting
influencers on board, and promotional gigs etc. A tour on top of all this
would be truly driving Mick too hard. (And now we'll finally get the
"making of hackney" documentary)

8) so I'm psyched. A grittier Stones album this time, and only 10 months away


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/57/2e/JE3xNrae_t.jpg

From the official X account:

It’s the countdown to midnight! 🕛  Have a safe and happy New Year! See you in 2025!! 🎇

https://x.com/RollingStones/status/1874106799328289239

Rather have anew album than a tour

I've worn out HD on my turntable so I'm definitely looking forward to a new album.

I feel though that there is a lot of buzz around concerning tour rumours so i think touring will come first

Stay on top of this Rev and keep us posted...

RING OUT POLITE MICK 2023/2O24

RING IN BRASH MICK 2025/2026

(wearing the Hackney Redux logo)


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/0c/6a/Xa3k02Tx_t.jpg


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/3f/ce/p8ZZopan_t.jpg

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 9:02am:

8) so I'm psyched. A grittier Stones album this time, and only 10 months away

Yep exactly 10 months. The Redux logo is based on a Day of the Dead symbol
(end of Oct start of Nov, depending on which country).

For purposes of the record release, Friday, Oct 31 !

Here's a version available on amazon-netherlands


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Va2PcJxXL._AC_SX679_.jpg


very cool way to pre-announce the album, Mick

As long as Andrew watt isn't involved .......

Is the jewelry actually related to the album?

I hear it could be a bi8 more camp than than Redux.
Sortof a Re-Ducky.
Happy years.

Hackney Costume Jewellery.

Doesn't have the same ring to it somehow.

"See you in 2025" can mean sooooo many things, really...
See you LIVE
See you on line
See you at the movies
See you for drinks later
See you <fill in the blank>

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:21am:

For purposes of the record release, Friday, Oct 31 !

If so, its a rich tradition

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1f/7f/4hrXp69C_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/f3/5f/4cjQ06Q2_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/43/91/0ijrWhAg_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/70/2c/6GLrV1zF_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/2d/76/ng4S5DLH_t.jpg

So, in the spirit of both halloween (visuals) and day of the dead (music)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5I-hA-X788

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 6:47am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:21am: For purposes of the record release, Friday, Oct 31 ! If so, its a rich tradition

a very rich tradition

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ea/0e/63M6WsQs_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/b7/81/GwunPZsR_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/99/b4/Ew5BlkxF_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/fa/90/D2LkZApB_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/51/52/0FcM1Qey_t.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV8_9-ssEaU

Nice

Keithmas? Yes. Of course. But also of course JAGGOWEEN !

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ee/39/7vQUk31S_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/49/c9/H1R2OVmg_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7e/c7/F3Yatz4I_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/2b/e7/kRj0Penn_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/75/01/tqT4Dikx_t.jpg

and rarest of all, Mick Taylor wearing a smile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw1SKn5eFM

and it wouldn't be JAGGOWEEN without a few Jag-O-Lanterns

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/62/81/39JmCqOr_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/05/db/oNpCpNnL_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/86/e5/CUFspI0U_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/82/89/HN40q3fs_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/d1/c3/mQwMoISq_t.jpg

also, winner of two Rock Video awards, Best Undressed and Best Woman
Taking a Leak on the Street (0:45)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSpGnZmGWBk

I saw the flesh just fall off her bones
The eyes in her skull was burning like coals
Lord, have mercy, fire and brimstone
I was dancing with Mistress D

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/18/59/RwwhFQpF_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/8b/f1/ZCl4np4i_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c9/dc/b0cicu1A_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/b8/31/D3nrkULG_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/04/fa/4nSYN4jE_t.jpg

Chaos, crisis, instability, ISIS
Lies and scandals, wars and vandals
Metadata scams and policy shams
Put 'em in a slammer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw6FxEGDCY

I predict Mick will skewer Trump in song in 2025. Good for him

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Chaos, crisis, instability, ISIS Lies and scandals, wars and vandals Metadata scams and policy shams Put 'em in the slammer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw6FxEGDCY

This track (and its flip side "england lost") famously emerged from one
of the Don Was sessions. It was acknowledged that it is Charlie and Ronnie
playing, but supposedly Keith's parts were wiped.  I think Keith's parts
actually were wiped from "lost" and from the first half of "grip" (though they
still leak through at times, in my opinion). But from 2:20 on we are getting
Rolling Stones the full monty. Only Keith can crunch like that. Some of the
fiercest Rolling Stones music ever.

So it is my fondest wish and prayer that we get a lot more of such music
on HD REDUX 

Immigrants are pouring in
Refugees under your skin
Keep 'em under, keep 'em out
Intellectuals, shut your mouth

(also wtf is that smoking thing she's holding at 2:17?}

As Barry H would say, "A big Thumbs Up" to that one.

I always liked gotta get a grip & England lost

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 3:58am:

(also wtf is that smoking thing she's holding at 2:17?}

she's proudly showing off the four champagne bottles she and her mates
have finished off so far


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/58/1c/5Fsanaa2_t.jpg

The world is upside down
Run by lunatics and clowns
No one speaks the truth
The madhouse runs the town

Everybody is on the take
The news is all fake
Let 'em eat shit
Let 'em eat cake

Good lyrics

https://iorr.org/news.htm

https://rocksoff.org/headers2025/j5-european-tour-iorr.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7d/e1/DUOj7nQD_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/b0/95/P4xXtww9_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/fc/b1/BnH5vrnd_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/d7/01/azWVJDHS_t.jpg

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:30am:

https://iorr.org/news.htm https://rocksoff.org/headers2025/j5-european-tour-iorr.jpg

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
                                            George Santayana 1905



Jan 2023, Revvy says no tour, and
sticks with his prediction despite...

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/79/02/SuNFxvZY_t.jpg



...and it wasnt until April that I was 100% vindicated

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/aa/8a/6xOEeTKJ_t.jpg



So, my forecast remains: ZERO chance of any Stones shows in 2025,
except for promo gig(s) for the new album circa halloween




Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:12pm:

The world is upside down Run by lunatics and clowns No one speaks the truth* The madhouse runs the town Everybody is on the take The news is all fake Let 'em eat shit Let 'em eat cake

*even though usually they don't even realize theyre spreading falsehoods

Well, hope you're right about the new album and wrong about the no tour

In 2023 it was planned but...

Today this was posted at La Vanguardia Barcelona by forum member Cleik

https://rocksoff.org/headers2025/j5-barcelona.jpg

.

1) newspaper above says "hope" there's a tour, barcelona dates are "penciled in"
for may, and probably the football club is going to have to allow it.

2) in effect, this article confirms no tour, because its too late.
contracts would need to have been signed by november 2024.

3) contracts for 2024 tour were signed mid november 2023, announcement
followed promptly nov 21, tickets on sale dec 1.

4) and what did the stones sign in nov 2022? the contract for HD.
and what did they sign in nov 24? the contract for HD Redux

5) so yeah, as i said earlier, we've been through this exact same bullshit
in 2022/23. the stones were completely wrapped up in bringing HD to market,
so they distracted the hardcore with a tour misinformation campaign, first for
spring 2023, then for late summer, but we know now for sure that no such
tour was ever planned, because they were busy working on the album release

6) so that's what's happening now. A misinfo campaign for spring tour 2025.
followed SOON by "whoops, sorry, couldnt get it together for the spring,
so it'll be late summer", followed by "sorry, no 2025 tour unfortunately"
followed by, in august, the album announcement and first single.

7) are the faithful being sucked in again this time?

https://images2.imgbox.com/19/4f/ViaK9fC5_o.jpg
(actual meme posted recently on their tour thread}

so i'm thinking, maybe, if we really want to stop the flow of misinfo,
maybe we can get trump to buy norway too

8) fyi, i HATE The Sphere in vegas. i hate it architecturally, aesthetically,
philosophically, spiritually, every which way. but its the smart move.
two halloween-ish promo gigs there, and one more at MSG NYC.
first hour trippy audio visual retrospective, second hour stones live (about
ten songs,mostly from the HD albums)

and maybe some surprise mini gigs elsewhere


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/58/0e/MdfNMPWb_t.jpeg

Rev's got a point.

Ooo, ducky.

I'd rather get a black and blue deluxe release this year

Another article from a Spanish newspaper

Los Rolling Stones volverán a España... si logran cerrar su gira europea
El grupo está trabajando en una gira de verano por Europa que comenzaría en Barcelona, pero está teniendo problemas para confirmar las fechas
https://www.elmundo.es/cultura/musica/2025/01/14/67862da721efa050238b4577.html

You're right Revy! It is conditioned to close more dates

Here a translation of one paragraph

The Rolling Stones will return to Spain in 2025... if they manage to close a European summer tour that they have been preparing for months, but that is not confirmed.

However, there are three cities rumored: Barcelona, Madrid and Sevilla

Whatevs, Rev. Delux or any Stains album would be well super, even with a couple of 'gentler' tracks (Crazy Gran'mama & Everything Is Turning To Golf) thrown in for good measure/balance/humour/groove.
Maybe.
In Stoonz We Truss,

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

Whatevs, Rev. Delux or any Stains album would be well super, even with a couple of 'gentler' tracks (Crazy Gran'mama & Everything Is Turning To Golf) thrown in for good measure/balance/humour/groove. Maybe. In Stoonz We Truss,

It is this kind of complacency that will get us GRRRRR!! Part 3 and 4...with a delux HONK release...LOL
Said with Peace & Love

I liked Honk

Unless Mick breaks his leg or whatever I'm pretty sure there will be a tour this summer, seeing how the mayor of Munich actually already announced that they will play in Munich on 12th July.

However, apart from this date, and the 2nd Amsterdam one on 9th June (which has been mentioned by multiple people for weeks now) I'm not so sure about other dates/places on Bjornulf's current list...especially 4 shows on the Iberian peninsula seem highly unlikely and unbelievable, most of all 2 Barcelona dates, seeing how Barca is playing the el clasico match against Real on the same day that Bjornulf has stated the 1st Barcelona match to be, however, Barca is still using the stadium that the Stones are supposed to play in cause their own stadium isn't finished with construction yet

That's why I think there won't be any Barcelona shows and the shows for Sevilla and Lisbon will replace them, but not all 4 shows there will happen, not only due to football but also seeing how everyone always is preaching that the Stones go where there is the highest buying power, yet people in Spain hardly seem to have the money to afford those high-priced tickets

That's why I don't really trust Bjornulf's list this time around, also cause Vienna suddenly disappeared again, altho I've heard by someone who works in this business that a Vienna show has been in the planning for months now...

I'd like to see them in London or Amsterdam

Same, will go to London, Amsterdam in any case^^ also Munich and Berlin...and if after that I still have some money left, hopefully Paris 😅

actually I booked 2 refundable hotels rooms in Amsterdam (4th to 10th and 5th to 10th) in a hotel 5 minutes away from the one the Stones are staying at cause the dates are so weird, I believe the 9th June is true as I said above, it's about the only date I trust apart from Munich, but the 5th makes no sense to me because they only take 3 days off between shows in the same city, so the 6th makes far more sense, also since they don't need to rent the stadium a day longer that shit's expensive as well and they wanna maximise profit, and they'd have an extra day off after Rome

Also that's why I don't believe the dates for London that one person mentioned for a second, it's apparently 25th and 30th June, but why would they rent the stadium for so long if they don't have to? Seeing how Munich is on the 12th and couting back in steps of 4, the 2nd London date would probably be on the 30th, which makes it more likely for the 1st to be on 27th, which also gives them a nice long break after Copenhagen on the 17th, but that's just my 5 cents...

Well, I'll most likely find myself traveling to Italy again if things go well, but I sure wish they'd just come back and play Greece already. Two gigs in 60+ years is just absurd, and it would definitely be a sold-out show.

I agree, Greece would deserve one show, there was one person months ago who mentioned Athens but it doesn't seem like they went through with it...3 shows in Spain makes no sense at all, seeing how they're not a Spanish band and Spain hasn't so much buying power for 3 shows, yet everyone always says they go where the money is but I can't see people there buying expensive tickets for 3 shows, one alright, but 3? Completely unbelievable...

There rather should be 1 in Greece or Zagreb (which also was mentioned once a few months ago and if it were only one show in that area, loads of people would wanna go, especially since they haven't been there in ages) or a 3rd show in UK which at least makes sense cause they are from the UK and people there have more money, but 3 Spain shows is completely unrealistic and I think they won't all happen in the end because of the stadium conflict with Barca

I'll try to go to 2 shows/city as long as I can get a non-stop flt.
I hope it will be a family trip, depending what my Glimmer Twins have planned for their summer,
or at least a Wifey trip with a concert or two in the mix.
Thinking the easiest would be London, Paris, Rome, Spain...so any 2 of those cities.
2 round trips to Europe, at the most.

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 21^st, 2025 at 4:51am:

I agree, Greece would deserve one show, there was one person months ago who mentioned Athens but it doesn't seem like they went through with it...

Oh, they did? Don't know how I managed to miss this!
I don't trust the Greek organizational side on this to be honest, but I'm just keeping my fingers crossed. Since the last time they played here all the way back in 1998, the Stones had booked a gig in Athens the year of Keith's accident. Of course then it was cancelled. So, I try to believe there might still be a glimmer of hope.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rolling-stones-plan-huge-comeback-34526905

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14310537/The-Rolling-Stones-London-gigs-new-European-tour.html


It was revealed last month that the legendary rock band’s Hackney Diamonds Tour eclipsed Taylor Swift’s record-breaking Eras Tour in single-night revenue pulling in a staggering £10,345,659 per night.

Get Close will be played.

4 concerts at Tottenham football stadium.

Interesting.

ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 7:32am:

4 concerts at Tottenham football stadium. Interesting.

IORR currently reports only 2 dates...I wonder what may get axed in the place of these rumored additional 2 shows....but whatever.

From IORR: https://iorr.org/tour25/

I wonder how that will fair out in the overall scheduling...as they can always do two 2-nite stands instead of a 4 nite straight run.
My hope would be to ad the 2 new shows AFTER Paris so I could just Chunnel over to the island.

Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is only 4 miles from Hackney!!

Personally, I don't believe a single word the Daily Fail is printing, they are known for spreading lies for clickbait and a lot of the time cannot even get people's age right cause they're too dumb/lazy to research, what they do is an insult to actual journalism

Someone mentioned that multiple reliable sources said Paris is on 19th July with a 2nd date there planned as well, so my guess is Paris on 16th and 19th July because only 3 days in between dates in the same city and the 16th is still free on the tour plan after Munich

My other guess is, they take a nice long break after Copenhagen and play in London on the 27th and 30th June and then possibly either in Vienna on the 4th July or another UK date there, before playing in Berlin on the 8th

And then possibly after Paris a last show in a smaller venue like they've done ever since the 2021 tour

Idk if y'all have seen the updates Bjornulf made to the rumoured tour plan but there are multiple dates I still find very hard to believe...

First of all the 2 Barcelona shows...if they can't sort out the stadium situation, I doubt that there will be any show in Barcelona at all, seeing how Barca is playing a home match against Real on the 11th May and another one against Villareal on the 18th. So the Stones can't play in the same stadium on 10th and 15th because they need it for football. And atm it's unclear whether Camp Nou will be ready to be played in by then. So I totally have my doubts about those gigs and think there is a high probability they won't happen.

And even if they sort out the stadium situation and Barca can play at Camp Nou, why would the Stones suddenly need 5 days in between shows in the same city? Previously it's been 4 days in between shows in different cities, and 3 days between shows in the same city. That's also why I think Amsterdam on 5th and 9th July isn't correct and rather will be the 6th and 9th. Same goes for London, it probably won't be the 24th and 28th but maybe the 25th and 28th, or maybe the 26th and 29th, or probably also the 27th and 30th, or literally any 2 dates between the 24th and 30th that have 3 days in between, because stadium rent also is expensive and why would they rent a while stadium longer than it needs be? (Just a random side note about this here, I read that renting a major football stadium in Europe costs between 300-500k per day, so why would they waste money like that when they wanna make profit? Renting it 2 more days is almost 1 million lost)

The other issue I have is with the Berlin date. It makes no sense on the 5th July because Munich is on the 12th (the mayor of Munich confirmed it so I think that one is trustworthy). Why would they need a whole week of break there, when there also is a whole week of break after the London show? Plus on the 5th is already a show at Waldbühne by another artist and people pointed out that the city of Berlin doesn't allow 2 shows in that area (Waldbühne and Olympic stadium) on the same day becaus of noise (also the reason the Stones had to finish playing there at 10pm in 2022) and traffic situation. So it won't be on the 5th.

Also yes, the big gaps between shows especially in July. I think Berlin will be on the 4th or 8th and then there will be another show added on the respective other date. Also someone mentioned another Paris show on the 16th, so at least the 19th makes sense for the 2nd Paris show, cause 3 days in between dates in the same city.

That's just my opionon and I think we will see some changes once the tour is officially being announced, but I really was surprised to see Bjornulf create the city threads when he usually only does this after the official announcement, I have no clue why he is so sure about these dates and cities when there are so many open issues...

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 1:19am:

why would the Stones suddenly need 5 days in between shows in the same city?

Because the dudes are effin OLD....its not a stretch....

Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he?
How nice to play in your own backyard!

Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument...

Ronnie having a place in Barcelona also doesn't change the fact that the stadium isn't available, plus people (i.e. other fans, mostly on IORR)  always point out that the Stones don't go where they wanna go most because it's not like planning a holiday trip, but where the concert organisers promise them the most money and I can't really see that either for 3 Spain dates, seeing how there isn't such a high buying power there because people's incomes aren't as high as in e.g. Austria, Switzerland, Germany, UK or Scandinavia

All of this taken together, I still highly doubt there will be 2 Barcelona shows, maybe 1 if they can figure out the stadium problem somehow

An additional thought: the Ernst-Happel stadium in Vienna isn't used for club football, so maybe the 2 Barcelona dates will be exchanged for the 2 Vienna dates that suddenly disappeared again from the rumours list, seeing how in July there are many other concerts in that stadium already, but maybe in May it looks different...

WIKIPEDIA:
Waiting for Ro-Sto is a play by Irish playwright Samuel Beckett in which two
IORRaqi super fans, Vladimir and Estragon, sit on a park bench and discuss
Ro-Sto's rumoured European tour. The stage repeatedly darkens to mark the
passing of days and weeks.

According to the NY Times, Waiting for Ro-Sto "has achieved a theoretical
impossibility – a play in which nothing happens, but which keeps audiences
glued to their seats".

(we join our characters in mid conversation)

ESTRAGON: An Austrian date at the Happel Stadium is also about to be signed.

VLADIMIR: I envisage Wembley Stadium, with a show in the north of England,
plus Cardiff and, say, Glasgow.

ESTRAGON: The European leg of the Hackney Diamonds Tour is practically a done
deal, as is practically a done deal the only Italian stop at the Stadio Olimpico
in Rome, scheduled for the last week of May

VLADIMIR: The announcement will be coming in the next few weeks.

ESTRAGON: My reliable source confirms that there will be a european tour in
2025. Contracts are about to be signed very soon. That's all I'm allowed to
share at this point.

VLADIMIR: I'm calling it that the tour will be announced by mid December.

ESTRAGON: The biggest rock band in the world will play two shows in Germany
next year, in Berlin and in Munich.

VLADIMIR: They will be announcing the tour the first week of January.

ESTRAGON: All will be revealed in a few short weeks.

VLADIMIR: Tomorow...

ESTRAGON: Barcelona is in. London is in. Amsterdam is in. Madrid is in.
Paris is in.

VLADIMIR: Madrid is out.

ESTRAGON: I would expect a Swiss show.

VLADIMIR: Barcelona around May 21 thanks to StonesDoug talking about spending
his birthday there next year.

ESTRAGON: Paris on 17th May Stade de France. It might be the opening night

VLADIMIR: According to reliable sources there are plans for a 14-gig-tour
between May and September 2025

ESTRAGON: BV will only post rumours on the main page a few weeks before the
official announcement.

VLADIMIR: Zagreb in mid August

ESTRAGON: Vienna or even Spielberg are in their sights again.

VLADIMIR: Helsinki is still in play.

ESTRAGON: Paris is rumoured for July 1st at Hippodrome Langchamp

VLADIMIR: Italian press confirms Rome 29 May

ESTRAGON: OKAY something is going on?? This topic is STICKY again!

VLADIMIR: Today I went from checking this thread every day for months to every
hour.

VLADIMIR: The actual date for Rome 20 May

ESTRAGON: My bet is on barcelona for 20/21 may

VLADIMIR: Ullevi is being talked about as a possibility for Sweden

ESTRAGON: An announcement of the tour is expected within the next few weeks.

VLADIMIR: Copenhagen added to the list.

ESTRAGON: BV updated the tour list 5-6 times today.

VLADIMIR: Two shows in Vienna, and one in Bucharest

ESTRAGON: Munich July 12th is solid

VLADIMIR: The latest reports in Spain are saying tour start in Barcelona, with
two maybe three shows

ESTRAGON: Rome date now removed by bv

VLADIMIR: The ROLLING STONES will play in SEVILLE

ESTRAGON: According to OE24, the Stones booked the Ernst Happel stadium
from August 10-12, but BV writes it for July.

VLADIMIR: Zurich has entered the chat as well.

ESTRAGON: The more of the tour schedule that appears, the less it makes sense...

VLADIMIR: Vienna removed

ESTRAGON: 2nd amsterdam show added

VLADIMIR: Do you mean Barcelona will not happen at all?

ESTRAGON: I have been working for months with research on the Tour 2025.
Then some people just steal all my posted data. I will have the names of
those who posted without shame.

VLADIMIR: The way people act is very disturbing, yet many of us still give and
continue to give. I hope we will continue to see your input and i hope we will
have justice in both our circumstances.

ESTRAGON: Most likely 95% of the audience won't even realize that Paris could
be the last Stones show (and some 35% might even be surprised that they are
still alive)

VLADIMIR: Most Parisians leaving by the 14th of July. Moreover,the financials
would not be at Stones standard. Last gig in Paris was low in terms of both
audience and income.

ESTRAGON: My guess would be a 3rd concert in Germany. Unless Marseille or Lyon.

VLADIMIR: They could still play Vienna before Paris

ESTRAGON: Pretty sure we have the best info

VLADIMIR: Rod Stewart's daughter commented on Instagram that the Faces might
make a Glastonbury reunion, which if accurate would mean Ronnie would require
29 June off.

ESTRAGON: There is space for at least two more shows, maybe Vienna or Bucharest
before Berlin

VLADIMIR: Rolling Stones will return to London for four huge gigs

ESTRAGON: Cardiff , Dublin and Edinburgh might be back in the mix

VLADIMIR: She said her husband worked somewhere and had inside info. According
to her Cardiff and Glascow would also have multiple shows.

ESTRAGON: Reliable sources say there will be 14 shows only; if one show is added,
then another show will have to go.

VLADIMIR: Sat 5 July cannot be correct for Berlin. The city doesn‘t allow
for events at Waldbühne and Olympiastadion at the same time.

ESTRAGON: We'll start getting teasers about 2 weeks before they announce the
tour. Signs on a bus or stadium and such.

VLADIMIR: The Stones posted a picture of Vienna. I believe in Vienna.

ESTRAGON: For Berlin: Reichstag Platz (?) In the 80's, Bowie and M. Jackson
played there

(we leave our characters in mid conversation)

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I almost died reading this 🤣🙈 also they are at literally 64 pages in the tour rumours thread by now and it's truly getting ridiculous...the way they are bending over backwards and twisting their necks in order to find a plausible explanation to SOMEHOW make the unrealistic dates that Bjornulf threw out there work

Why the fuck would they HAVE to play in Berlin on the 5th of July if it's literally entirely implausible?? They'd rather believe that there is a show in front of the Brandenburger Tor on the 5th instead of just thinking about the FAR more realistic possibility that the show will just be on the 4th or the 8th instead...fucking ridiculous

Same goes for Barcelona...I almost choked laughing earlier when Bjornulf honestly asked whether it's possible to play a show on the 10th, then de-construct the stage, play football on the 11th and then re-construct the stage for the 2nd gig...no of course it's not fucking possible, Barca doesn't want their lawn all ruined for the clasico 🙈🙈 maybe just accept the most logical option here which is that there won't be 2 Barcelona shows, instead of coming up with "solutions" that make one think you're tripping xD

The only way I see one show in Barcelona happening (as long as Camp Nou isn't available) is if the tour is starting in Lisbon or Sevilla on the 16th or 17th and then they play Barcelona on the 20th or 21st or even the 24th or 25th, seeing how the stadium only is available after the 18th...

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:14am:

Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he? How nice to play in your own backyard

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:49am:

Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument...

My comments were not meant to be any kind of argument.
I offer no insight or evidence what-so-ever.
I do not pretend, nor would I pose to have any insight on what/where/when they play.

I was simply recalling Ronny has a place in BCN  so his family would be comfortable, regardless of dates, venues, etc

I just want to be able to take a non-stop flt  to 2 cities/shows from Raleigh or Charlotte...
take my family with me  regardless if they go to the shows or not (extra LD !!), oh yeah...and only if I can get LDs too.
I will only know (like you) what the deal is once something is, if it is ever,  announced.

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 2:44pm:

they are at literally 64 pages in the tour rumours thread by now and it's truly getting ridiculous...

...and we're only halfway home

The 2023 Fake Tour campaign ran for over a year and totaled 123 pages

123 pages of brilliant "misdirection marketing" for Hackney Diamonds.

...and now more of the same for Redux


"Quite simply, Misdirection Marketing is planned 'snafus' that get customers
or an audience to engage with the content in error."

*************************************************************

Magic, Misdirection and Marketing

It’s funny the things we pay for. Normally we hate it when people lie to
us or trick us. It kills trust and leaves us feeling like chumps.

But comedians lie all the time because it’s part of the craft.

As for magicians, even the honesty is part of a calculated attempt to trick us.

A stage magician lies to us and our senses. They use misdirection to make us
look left when we should be looking right.

And we love them for it.

Content marketing is similar, in a way. People read your writing (or watch
your video, or listen to your music…) and it seems like you’re doing nothing
but offering value.

You’re being informative, entertaining or, ideally, both.

And then comes the misdirect - you’re actually selling to them.

But that’s okay - like magic, it’s honest dishonesty. The audience knows
what they’re getting themselves into - and they’re even excited to be deceived.


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Rev on fire  ;D ;D ;D

I haven't heard a thing

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 3:27pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:14am: Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he? How nice to play in your own backyard ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:49am: Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument... My comments were not meant to be any kind of argument. I offer no insight or evidence what-so-ever. I do not pretend, nor would I pose to have any insight on what/where/when they play. I was simply recalling Ronny has a place in BCN  so his family would be comfortable, regardless of dates, venues, etc I just want to be able to take a non-stop flt  to 2 cities/shows from Raleigh or Charlotte... take my family with me  regardless if they go to the shows or not (extra LD !!), oh yeah...and only if I can get LDs too. I will only know (like you) what the deal is once something is, if it is ever,  announced.

Sorry I just realised that "argument" might have been the faux English-German expression^^ bottom line is you're obviously correct about us just having to wait until the official announcement so we'll finally know for sure, hopefully soon 🙏🏻

I just find it kinda peculiar that despite there being some open ends here, Bjornulf already created the city specific tour threads, although in the past years he only always did this after the tour was officially announced...now people over there seem to expect that the announcement will come next week, but honestly, even if I wish so, cause German railways has super cheap train tickets available until the 28th (another reason why I'm so bummed that the Berlin date is utterly unreliable), I sadly doubt we'll get any kind of announcement THAT soon...maybe in 2 weeks, but if things continue to be so odd especially with the Barcelona dates, then probably rather in 3 weeks...there also haven't been any sightings of tour posters yet in the rumoured cities, at least not that I heard of...

As has already been said, no way will the Barca v RM game and the Stones gig be so close together.

It would be a logistical nightmare

The very first thing I heard about Barcelona a few months ago was a show on the 12th, and imo if it's just this one show, it would make total sense...if Barca-Real is on the 10th, then they could play there on the 12th, or maybe 13th, but only one show, seeing how Barca needs the stadium again on the 18th....that's why ever since there suddenly were rumours of 2 Barcelona shows, I found this VERY unbelievable...also because of not enough buying power in Spain, especially if there is supposed to be a show in Sevilla too

Or maybe there will be 2 Barcelona shows but one of them is in a tiny club for a billionaire LOL

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 1:34am:

Sorry I just realised that "argument" might have been the faux English-German expression

8-)We're cool 8-)

Barca are looking to move venue according to this and the article states there is a RS gig scheduled for the same week.

Maybe there us something to it or is this report just speculation?

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-barcelona-considering-moving-laliga-clash-real-madrid-different-location-amid-camp-nou-delays-reports

I really really need the boys to announce something soon so I can plan my much needed vacation.

ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 2:15pm:

Barca are looking to move venue according to this and the article states there is a RS gig scheduled for the same week. Maybe there us something to it or is this report just speculation? https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-barcelona-considering-moving-laliga-clash-real-madrid-different-location-amid-camp-nou-delays-reports

Idk how trustworthy this particular paper is, but even if they can find an agreement and have the clasico take place at some other stadium, that wouldn't change the fact that Barca still has another game against Villareal on the 18th, so playing in the stadium on the 15th or 16th for the 2nd gig might be too close to the game and the lawn would still be ruined...

I think during the course of the 2022 tour I read somewhere that most football clubs want at least a week between a match and a show because of the lawn, idk if it applies to Barca as well, but overall I still think 2 shows in Barcelona are highly unlikely, unless they switch the dates around and the shows will be between the 20th and 25h May, starting off in Lisbon and Sevilla instead, because after the 18th May there is no football to take into account anymore

Hopefully they do a pay-per-view

Less Football talk...More Rolling Stones talk, eh?

WHO'S WITH ME!?!?!?!!!!!
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👍🏻👍🏻

so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet...

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 25^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

👍🏻👍🏻 so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet...

If I recall correctly...the tongues and easter eggs dont show up until just a few days...(3 -4 ?) prior...isnt that the usual M.O.?
And after the announcement that there will be announcement...innit that right?

I mean...once those go up and are seen...all bets are off...something WILL happen...
I love the waiting game, TBH...Since I have no control over it, just thinking about the possibilities is fun!!

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 25^th, 2025 at 1:39pm:

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:07pm: 👍🏻👍🏻 so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet... If I recall correctly...the tongues and easter eggs dont show up until just a few days...(3 -4 ?) prior...isnt that the usual M.O.? And after the announcement that there will be announcement...innit that right? I mean...once those go up and are seen...all bets are off...something WILL happen... I love the waiting game, TBH...Since I have no control over it, just thinking about the possibilities is fun!!

Ahh good to know, for some reason I didn't properly remember anymore how long it took the last times from when the posters and stuff popped up until the announcement...so maybe next week something might happen and then we'll have it official in early February 🙏🏻 but since I've always hated waiting and am impatient af in general, I hope it won't be too much longer...also cause of taking off from work...I just really wanna know when the London shows are for real, not go by some rumours....

We will continue to make dreams come true.

Or better said the Stones will, once they finally announce the tour 🙏🏻 tbh as long as this doesn't officially happen, I'm a bit paranoid and anxious...

We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.

Some Guy wrote on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.

What do you mean? Oo

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 8:13am:

Some Guy wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:05am: We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing. What do you mean? Oo

It's an old David Lee Roth quote, kind of...

Build anticipation interest, aka buzz, without lifting a finger really.

See also- I used to have a drug problem, but now I make enough money.

Some Guy wrote on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 8:24am:

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:13am: Some Guy wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:05am: We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing. What do you mean? Oo It's an old David Lee Roth quote, kind of... Build anticipation interest, aka buzz, without lifting a finger really. See also- I used to have a drug problem, but now I make enough money.

Yeah it's because people on IORR are crazy, spending 66 pages as of rn to speculate and so-called reporters quote their speculations and act like it's inside informations cause they're dumb and only want to create clickbait...it's truly astounding to see all the news outlets that have jumped on that Daily Fail article by now 😅

:blankfriggingstare1

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 4:10am:

5) so yeah, as i said earlier, we've been through this exact same bullshit in 2022/23. the stones were completely wrapped up in bringing HD to market, so they distracted the hardcore with a tour misinformation campaign, first for spring 2023, then for late summer, but we know now for sure that no such tour was ever planned, because they were busy working on the album release 6) so that's what's happening now. A misinfo campaign for spring tour 2025. followed SOON by "whoops, sorry, couldnt get it together for the spring, so it'll be late summer", followed by "sorry, no 2025 tour unfortunately" followed by, in august, the album announcement and first single. 8) fyi, i HATE The Sphere in vegas. i hate it architecturally, aesthetically, philosophically, spiritually, every which way. but its the smart move. two halloween-ish promo gigs there, and one more at MSG NYC. first hour trippy audio visual retrospective, second hour stones live (about ten songs,mostly from the HD albums) and maybe some surprise mini gigs elsewhere https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/58/0e/MdfNMPWb_t.jpeg

9) The Sphere needs the Stones because they need content and are paying
big for it. And the Stones need a newsworthy venue to promo HD Redux. And, for
those disappointed about no Euro tour, let me point out the obvious:
there are a lot more seats in The Sphere than in the racket club.

As you can see below, the greatest part of Sphere's schedule is filled by
replays of the U2 show. Acts like the eagles and dead & company can
fill seats there for their live shows but not for any replays. 

Plus, this need for replayable content will soon be doubled, as a second
Sphere has been announced for Abu Dhabi

https://www.delicious.com.au/travel/travel-news/article/abu-dhabi-uae-announced-location-second-sphere/qkozzsgk


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The sphere stage is too small for a proper Jagger strut.

Here's more to put in your pipe and smoke...

                            BV pre-announces             Stones announce             Album?

Fake tour 2023      Oct 24, 2022                     never                               yes

Real tour 2024      morning Nov 17, 2023        afternoon Nov 17, 2023     no

Fake tour 2025      Jan 11, 2025                     never (projected)              yes


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Holden wrote on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 4:34pm:

The sphere stage is too small for a proper Jagger strut.

He made do with the small stages at Hard Rock Casino in Florida and Waldbühne in Berlin as well (okay he almost climbed up the stage posts there but 😅😅) for a handful of shows he'll survive, all a matter of money offered imo^^

yesterday I was told another rumour and it made me feel affirmed in my prior statement of Bjornulf announcing the city threads somewhat over-eager and too early...apparently one German city might be out and another one in...but could also be that there might be 3 Germany shows, who knows...at least 3 Germany shows would make way more sense to me than 3 Spain shows and I'm not saying this because I'm German (I don't care where the shows are as long as they're in a city that interests me and I can get to without too much trouble, I mean I went to the US last year just to see them 😅) but because there is the highest buying power here, tickets are always most expensive as compared to other countries, plus Germany is easy to reach by train and car from other countries around, as opposed to Spain where you need to fly (but not everyone wants to or likes to take a plane...)

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 28^th, 2025 at 2:54am:

as opposed to Spain where you need to fly (but not everyone wants to or likes to take a plane...)

Sailing into Barcelona would be divine.
My offices are right on the water....I could even "work from home" while there, lol

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 28^th, 2025 at 10:03am:

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 28th, 2025 at 2:54am: as opposed to Spain where you need to fly (but not everyone wants to or likes to take a plane...) Sailing into Barcelona would be divine. My offices are right on the water....I could even "work from home" while there, lol

Hahaha seems like a good plan ;D I was also thinking about working from wherever if it wouldn't work out with holidays otherwise...we're allowed to work up to 90 days per year from other European countries anyway^^

Just for reference I just checked the official Stones IG and in 2022 they started to post teasers 3 days before the official announcement, and in 2023 it was 4 days in advance...both on a Friday...so if this Friday something pops up on social media, we'll know ;)  I think someone on IORR mentioned they heard a rumour that they might announce it the week after the Grammys, so...fingers crossed

Need more from Hackney Diamonds this go!


1. “Angry”
2. “Get Close”
3. “Depending On You”
4. “Bite My Head Off”
5. “Whole Wide World”
6. “Dreamy Skies”
7. “Mess It Up”
8. “Live By The Sword”
9. “Driving Me Too Hard”
10. “Tell Me Straight”
11. “Sweet Sounds Of Heaven”
12. “Rolling Stone Blues”

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 29^th, 2025 at 3:00am:

I think someone on IORR mentioned they heard a rumour that they might announce it the week after the Grammys, so...fingers crossed

MAYBE even at the Grammy's...if they win...it would make for  a great acceptance speech.

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 29^th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 29th, 2025 at 3:00am: I think someone on IORR mentioned they heard a rumour that they might announce it the week after the Grammys, so...fingers crossed MAYBE even at the Grammy's...if they win...it would make for  a great acceptance speech.

Yeah but the Grammys are broadcasted in the US while people in Europe are sleeping, so it wouldn't make that much sense tbh, only if it were a US tour^^

Dreamy skies needs to be played live

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 29^th, 2025 at 3:28pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 29th, 2025 at 2:49pm: ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 29th, 2025 at 3:00am: I think someone on IORR mentioned they heard a rumour that they might announce it the week after the Grammys, so...fingers crossed MAYBE even at the Grammy's...if they win...it would make for  a great acceptance speech. Yeah but the Grammys are broadcasted in the US while people in Europe are sleeping, so it wouldn't make that much sense tbh, only if it were a US tour^^

Also I doubt all of the band would turn up for the award. They'd send Ronnie if anyone is to go, and no way would he be the one to break the news.

Apparently the tour is off? God damn, I was really excited about this.

I'm really so gutted rn and feel like crying because I so was looking forward to seeing all of my international Stones friends again in Amsterdam or London :/

Really hope the guys are alright and it's not a health issue, but from what I've heard it seems to have been logistical issues and I'm honestly not surprised about this...I've doubted the Barcelona dates even happening for what seems like weeks now, also I pointed out multiple times that July 5th for Berlin seems illogical and somehow adding 2 Vienna shows in July where there already are so many other bands using that stadium seemed to be an impossible thing...and in the end it appears to actually just have been impossible to pull it off due to these issues, no matter how hard they tried which really fucking sucks...I'm sure we fans aren't the only ones bummed rn but Mick, Keith and Ronnie probably already were looking forward to it of course...

Here's to hoping that the guys are all fit and well and maybe they can reschedule to autumn like in 2017 🙏🏻

Edit: someone on IORR who always had very accurate infos regarding the Italy shows and seems to have first hand connections to a tour promoter just said the tour is only postponed and not off, let's hope this is also accurate...it would fit in the overall picture at least

No tour?

Hopefully all is well with the boys and the tour is just pushed back a little.

The Barca gigs did seem unworkable.  We just have to wait and see what happens.

Goo wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 8:33am:

No tour?

At least not in summer...but everything I've heard myself and have read from others should give us some hope that it doesn't seem to be health related and that it might just happen later than originally planned 🙏🏻

The 2017 autumn tour was great, it was when I first saw them in Munich...only downside is they won't be playing in Munich in autumn then cause Bayern needs the Allianz Arena then for football and the Olympic stadium isn't available due to rennovations...but maybe they could just play at the fairgrounds like Helene Fischer and Adele did last year

Gotta say, our own Rev. 20 Redlights called this!!!

Nice Rev

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 4:10am:

[size=12] 8) fyi, i HATE The Sphere in vegas. i hate it architecturally, aesthetically, philosophically, spiritually, every which way. but its the smart move.

Overrrated glorified IMAX theatre. I am glad I went, glad I saw U2, glad I got a "cheap" ticket at $268, also my most expensive ever, but the rest of the talent has been underwhelming and hard for a music fan to take a venue seriously when the music is not the attraction. In that case I would prefer to sit in the back of a stadium for $40 and watch the jumbotron.

Revy did it again, he was right


nankerphelge wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

Gotta say, our own Rev. 20 Redlights called this!!!

Yes, burn the evil priest! LOL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI4T-eiWoAYdspG.jpg

Holden wrote on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 4:34pm:

The sphere stage is too small for a proper Jagger strut.

But if he is slowing down yet doesn't want to appear to, then the Sphere stage is perfect. Most eyes will be on the screen and the amount of distance put on his feet is much reduced. They already have a lot of the graphics in the archive that can be touched up, recycled and scaled up.

This also reduces the natural wear and tear from travel. Now Vegas can be hell on the voice but they would likely do what U2, Rod Stewart, Elton John and a lot of other residency acts do which is just commute from LA. They can just hole up at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills like they do for rehearsals or extended stays in LA.

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

Revy did it again, he was right nankerphelge wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 9:59am: Gotta say, our own Rev. 20 Redlights called this!!! Yes, burn the evil priest! LOL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI4T-eiWoAYdspG.jpg

Lol...tbh...about a week ago when I heard the back and forth about Berlin probably being sacked in favour of Hamburg and then suddenly not after all and all the overall trouble with Barcelona, I was close to coming here and writing that even if I hate to admit it, I might actually kinda agree with Rev – but only going as far that the tour in the form they had planned it and could be seen on IORR probably wasn't gonna happen.

But I didn't, cause of course I kept hoping for the best...and yesterday I heard from someome who's gotta know that they also believed they could make it happen, until they ultimately couldn't. So unlike Rev has been preaching, there 100% were plans being made and it wasn't just Bjornulf's dreams or whatever. The guys really wanna tour and as far as I heard they are currently trying everything to still make it possible 🙏🏻 so I keep on hoping, fingers crossed

Edit: personally I don't think Rev jinxed it, but Bjornulf himself did by creating the city threads BEFORE the tour was officially announced...he never did this and I thought it was weird and a bit presumptuous, considering all the problems we knew excisted with some of the dates and venues...it just had to go wrong like that 🙈

Maybe while this has to be rearranged they can get to work in the studio on the new album.

ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 2:17am:

Maybe while this has to be rearranged they can get to work in the studio on the new album.

Yeah was thinking the same! Maybe they can finish it up now this spring and release it in August or early September, immediately followed by a European tour starting in mid-September until late October/early November like in 2017...there are enough indoor options, isn't there that new arema in Manchester now as well whose onwers really wanted the Stones to play there? Maybe they could figure out a few dates per city with stadiums/arenas that have a roof, like Manchester, Düsseldorf, Amsterdam and Paris

I read several rumours saying the tour's only postponed and not cancelled. But Rev, how you called it, as much as I didn't wanna listen!

As far as I heard and can logically see, atm there seem to be multiple options:

1) postponement of the European tour to autumn, which obviously would be the ideal case for everyone who planned to attend in Europe
2) postponement of the tour to autumn/winter, but instead of Europe it's taking place in the US (timeframe like in 2021, which apparently, as far as I've heard, is an actual consideration atm cause they're trying all options) and then a European summer tour in 2026 => obviously not ideal for fans in Europe who can't/don't wanna travel across the pond, but at least we'd know the guys would play some shows this year, but they aren't getting any younger, so making plans for 2026 seem kinda a bit crazy at their age
3) no tour this year and a European summer tour in 2026 (as hinted on by the Sun but I don't believe a word they write, they're worse than te Daily Fail, so some so-called "journalist" probably made this up as the only consequence they could see, even tho there theoretically are other options) => same downside as stated above, they aren't getting amy younger

1) I'm pressed for time so I'll cut to the chase...

2) On the pages of iorr dot org, my guess is that you'll soon read that the
Euro tour is back on, that it has merely been delayed to a start in August

3) Season 2 of...
Waiting for Ro-Sto, a TV series created by Samuel Beckett
in which two IORRaqi super fans, George and Kramer, sit in a
diner discussing Ro-Sto's rumoured European tour. The soundstage
repeatedly darkens to mark the passing of days and weeks...

(we join our heroes in mid conversation)

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/bf/4d/xf6WcSi5_t.jpg

4) At this point, you should be able to guess what happens next. Yep,
once again, no announcement, no tour

(r-w, fyi, i am agnostic on the question of whether bv is collaborating with
the Stones for this sophisticated psy-op, or is merely a pawn. My bottom
line remains the same: once the contracts for the new album were
signed in Nov 2024, ALL tour "news" has been an intentional act of
deception on the part of the Stones, and God bless them for going to
all this trouble to enhance our consciousness about how "news" works)

5)

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/2e/f0/Bu9fF9Sk_t.jpeg


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/58/0e/MdfNMPWb_t.jpeg

I think it's utterly ridiculous to assume that they were planning an entire tour merely for deception, there are dozens of people involved in this, working for tour promoters in multiple European countries, but also on the side of the Stones camp touring management, they wouldn't just keep those peoppe busy just for fun and to deceive the public...

As not only I, but also others who have some form of connection to people working in the concert organisation business know, there were actual concerts being planned, cities and venues being pushed back and forth for weeks, to somehow make it work out because the guys actually WANT to tour

It didn't work out in the end because of football and too many other bands already touring, and not because it was all just an elaborated scheme

As Revy says "Face the facts": They never announced this tour, so they don't need to explain anything, like "cancelled", "postponed" or give explanations

I did find it odd that an Arsenal fan wanted to play at Tottenham   ;D

ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 12:06pm:

I did find it odd that an Arsenal fan wanted to play at Tottenham   ;D

Not about what Mick wants but where there is a free venue, Iron Maiden already had booked London stadium for the 28th June for example, and no spots at BST Hyde Park left anymore either, also Wembley seems pretty busy as well in summer

I found 3 Spain dates quite odd from the very beginning and this is what ultimately fucked everythimg over in the end...they should have just tried to choose other cities instead with stadiums that aren't used for club football instead of being so death set on Barcelona

From Rolling Stone:

The Rolling Stones Reportedly Scrap U.K., European Tour Plans
The rock band was offered concert dates in London, Paris, Barcelona, and Rome, but passed due to logistics and prior commitments
By Emily Zemler
January 31, 2025

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-rolling-stones-uk-european-tour-plans-scrapped-1235252332/

The Rolling Stones have reportedly shelved a forthcoming U.K. and European tour planned for 2025. According to the Times, the rock band has scrapped the idea of hitting the road later this year. The report says that the group – Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Ronnie Wood – were presented with several offers for shows over the summer but dismissed them due to logistical issues surrounding the venues and travel, as well as pre-existing commitments. The shows included a “proposed multimillion-pound visit to Tottenham Hotspur’s stadium,” which the band members rejected. The band would have performed four concerts at the stadium in London if accepted. The Times notes that the Rolling Stones were also offered tour dates in Paris, Barcelona, and Rome. The Times adds that the band still plans to tour in 2026, both in the U.K. and elsewhere, and that fans remain hopeful Wood will appear with Rod Stewart during the Legends slot at Glastonbury in June. The group has yet to officially confirm the reports. A representative for the band did not immediately respond to Rolling Stone’s request for comment. The Rolling Stones last toured in 2024 on their 2023 effort, Hackney Diamonds, including 20 concerts in North America. According to the Times, 880,000 tickets were sold for those shows, generating $235 million. The tour was a massive production, involving rehearsals of more than 60 songs from the band’s catalog after the album’s launch in London and a pop-up concert in New York City. “I never want it to look too slick,” lighting designer Patrick Woodroffe told Rolling Stone of the tour. “This band is really authentic. Audiences will always be able to spot whether a performance is the real thing or not. It may be the soundtrack for the lives of the people in the audience, but it’s also the soundtrack of the Stones’ lives. They gift us their music, and that’s the real embrace. That’s the real thing.” He added, “You will never know when the Stones are going to do their last performance. None of us will. And not because there’s any mystique about it, it’s just the way they work. They finish a tour and go off on holiday and the tour promoters will offer them some new dates, they’ll go, ‘Yes,’ and off we’ll go.”

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 5:18am:

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For all our new readers from IORRaq...

As-Salam Alaikum (Peace be upon you)

Please note that, despite what has been reported over there, no one here,
and especially not me, has ever suggested a U2-like run for the Stones at
the Sphere...

Two nights only, Halloween weekend, in order to a) hype the new album,
and b) to make a film, like at the Beacon, a film which which will run
forever at all the planned Spheres

Alhamdulilah (God gives me everything)

P.S. that article from Rolling Stone, immediately preceding, at least gets
one thing right, "the tour promoters will offer them some new dates".
Happening already of course. As I said earlier, these new Euro dates in
late summer will soon be rumoured over there in IORRaq

Why you speaking arabic, Rev, will your next prophecy be that they're gonna play a show for some sheik in the Emirates and therefore we fans have to learn arabic if we wanna attend? Lol XD

Please Revy, behave

Also, please confirm if that picture or "George and Kramer" is for real, I mean you cannot use real images of regulars from any place as a joke

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:48pm:

For all our new readers from IORRaq... As-Salam Alaikum (Peace be upon you) Alhamdulilah (God gives me everything)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSymHRzW0Q

I find Rev both scary and fascinating at the same time.

Is that normal?

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 5:58pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:48pm: For all our new readers from IORRaq... As-Salam Alaikum (Peace be upon you) Alhamdulilah (God gives me everything) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSymHRzW0Q

🤣 something tells me that Mick didn't actually mean this in the religious sense that the arabic saying does xD

Also I assume the pic of George and whatsisname is AI, right? Looks pretty fake to me at least xD

btw just a question Rev, are you writing about the people on IORR like that cause they follow Bjornulf like some kind of cult leader?
At least that's the impression I get from a lot of them...

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 8:27pm:

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/0c/6a/Xa3k02Tx_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a3/32/h565Uwjm_t.jpg


You can see it in a clear blue sky
You can see it in a woman's eyes

You can hear it in your baby's cries
You can hear it in your lover's sighs

You can touch it in a grain of sand
Hold it right there in the palm of your hand

Whithersoever you turn, there is the presence of Allah, for
Allah is all-Pervading.
Quran 2:115

God gave me everything I want
Come on, I'll give it all to you

Allah has granted you all that you asked Him for.
Quran 14:34
Never will you attain heaven until you give
away that which you want.
Quran 3:92

Went to see BVs latest update of this Euro-tour...
as some rumblings of a possible teaser or announcement this weekend were whispered not too long ago
...and I see this:

The Rolling Stones tour, as rumoured for Europe this summer, will NOT go on as planned.

The tour is off, no further news are available now.


https://iorr.org/tour25/

Ladies & Gentlemen...The Stones have left the building...

Hahahahahahaha

one week ago, via instagram

matterialist12

"Great to have a lot of hard work (and fun) recognised with a golden
gramophone! Highlights were having Sir Paul, GaGa and Stevie sitting in -
and seeing the songs come to life with a lot of energy from Mr Watt. Looking
forward to meeting up with the band again soon…."

thisiswatt

"COULDNT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU MATTY LOVE YA"

Hopefully we get the Black & Blue deluxe instead

How can the next album be better than Hackney Diamonds?

Some Guy wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 8:02am:

How can the next album be better than Hackney Diamonds?

Ronnie responds this morning with a simple statement of faith
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/f2/9a/csJgzWyT_t.jpg

rolling stone magazine today:\

There are plenty of leftover songs from the Hackney Diamonds
sessions, and Watt wants the Stones to finish them. “It was a
prolific time for the band. Those sessions, they had amassed like
18 years of material,” Watt says. “There was so much to go
through and there was so much to kind of choose from initially,
and then there were new songs that just came because everyone
was rolling and kind of flying. So we did record more than went
onto the album… There’s more material left. I can’t tell you if it’s
gonna happen or not. It’s up to them, but it would be great… Why
not finish the material, you know?”\

Reality Today:

"HD Redux" already put to bed, special vinyl products entering
manufacturing queues as we speak

As Watt says - "it's up to them".

They have some spare time now that the tour is not going ahead.  Can't see these guys pottering about doing a bit of gardening to pass the time, so going in the studio and finishing what they left off HD, as well as recording some new stuff, would be great.

Rev- what does this mean??

Reality Today:

"HD Redux" already put to bed, special vinyl products entering
manufacturing queues as we speak

Some Guy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 9:02am:

Rev- what does this mean?? Reality Today: "HD Redux" already put to bed, special vinyl products entering manufacturing queues as we speak

the phrase "put it to bed" originates from the newspaper business,
as in "our 7am edition must be put to bed by 3am" in order for us
to set up the presses, print it, get it on the trucks and out onto the
newstands by 7am

the phrase spread throughout the entertainment industry to mean the
drop-dead deadline in order for mechanical reproduction to be ready
for, say, the Christmas market or the june wedding market or...

HD needed to be put to bed in Feb 2023 in order to meet the
speciality vinyl production deadlines for Christmas 2023

HD REDUX similarly now has been put to bed.

Thus all the current "maybe" talk is pure silliness. Santa's fleet
of sleighs are being backed up right now to vinyl factory loading
docks all over asia...

Crackers?

and the same old blues again, now we have rumors for Romania late July 2025

This was posted at our message board in Spanish by NachoStone

https://golazo.ro/fcsb-arena-nationala-the-rolling-stones-concert-127611

They would never play Romania , next to Ukraine

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 12:15pm:

now we have rumors for Romania late July 2025

Why there? Did Romania not qualify for some football thing and now a stadium is freed up? LOL

But more to Goo's point, I do not think any insurance company would permit that being so close
to Ukraine.

I think the touring band is over

Goo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:

I think the touring band is over

It's a scary thought but given their ages the end can't be too far away.

I do think this rumoured European tour will eventually happen. Then maybe one last hurrah in the USA soon afterwards.

I don't think they'll ever announce the end. They'll just keep going till they realise they can't anymore.

Quote:

HD needed to be put to bed in Feb 2023 in order to meet the speciality vinyl production deadlines for Christmas 2023 HD REDUX similarly now has been put to bed.

an obvious follow-up question would have been "so, revvy, when
did the Stones get together and finish up REDUX,
including recording two new tracks?"

Answer: March 2024 when they were rehearsing for the USA tour
in what has become their recording studio of choice in LA

Then they perfected the final mixes/vocals/lyrics at their leisure,
mostly from home, over the remainder of 2024 plus Jan Feb 2025

Absolutely.
Also though - when are crackers put to bed and how many new jokes?
X

Apparently I'm right again, Mick has been ensconced with Andrew in
Hollywood for most of 2025 (finishing up the album). Even when his
son Devi was hospitalized in London with a football injury last week,
only mum Melanie was there keeping the tyke company...

Melanie flew in to LA yesterday to join Mick at a pre-Oscars party...


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7f/53/7oY3rynE_t.jpg

To avoid opening a new thread I'm going to post the pictures here, all by Jon Kopaloff/WireImage

https://people.com/thmb/juiK7S7mTTrv8wXK8UYBgmx0B2g=/4000x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(799x716:801x718):format(webp)/Mick-Jagger-Melanie-Hamrick-030225-02-878328e22bcf4f12b8c28cf73a0bcf58.jpg

Adrien Brody, Mick Jagger and Colman Domingo

https://people.com/thmb/eMPPUclTOBNjNH-I5hcTAWvuyMA=/4000x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(665x0:667x2):format(webp)/Adrien-Brody-Mick-Jagger-Colman-Domingo-Pre-Oscar-Dinner-030225-24a5845dc015457ead7d8e1c41db2ee2.jpg

https://people.com/thmb/6rq-h28sEdjmN6qLChtLdAf841w=/4000x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(749x0:751x2):format(webp)/mick-jagger-melanie-hamrick-american-ballet-theatre-like-water-for-chocolate-062323-1-SQ-47b8d15c512846a28ce6a129e031a4e3.jpg

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/mick-jagger-left-elizabeth-jagger-99552600_92b93a.jpg

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/mick-jagger-melanie-hamrick-attend-99560622_fc1db4.jpg

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/mick-jagger-left-elizabeth-jagger-99552601_ee123b.jpg

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/mick-jagger-melanie-hamrick-attend-99560426.jpg

Voo...these pics are HUGE!! LOL.

Is the diamond embedded in his tooth a new one?
Did he replace it last year?

When did he first get the jewel in his smile?

What quack dentist would even f=do that, unless the tooth is fake...

The dancer is looking very Cher ala late 80s, no?

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2025 at 10:56am:

Apparently I'm right again, Mick has been ensconced with Andrew in Hollywood for most of 2025 (finishing up the album). Even when his son Devi was hospitalized in London with a football injury last week, only mum Melanie was there keeping the tyke company... Melanie flew in to LA yesterday to join Mick at a pre-Oscars party... https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7f/53/7oY3rynE_t.jpg

and please keep in mind its not just the album, its the videos
and the audio-visual portions of the upcoming promo gigs
and the versions and the industry politics etc that are keeping
Mick working like a dog in LA...

https://i.imgur.com/VIE70ce.jpeg


obviously I don't know which beautiful woman will be featured in
the lead single video, but I do know that I want, with all my heart,
for it to be Patti Hansen


https://i.imgur.com/wHAELdd.jpeg

via enertainment weekly
Surprise Oscars guest Mick Jagger says he replaced
Bob Dylan to present Best Original Song

"I'm greatly honored to be invited to give this award for the Best
Original Song tonight, and much as I love doing it, I wasn't the
first choice to give this award out," the Rolling Stones frontman
said. "The producers really wanted Bob Dylan to do this. Bob didn't
want to do it because he said the best songs this year were
obviously in the movie, A Complete Unknown."

Jagger laughed as he continued, "Bob said, 'You should find
somebody younger.' I said, 'Okay, I'm younger! I'm younger than
Bob, I'll do it.' So here I am."

https://i.imgur.com/vssQLos.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ74air-wVk

STILL NOT ANGRY

https://i.imgur.com/Wh2GTRu.jpeg

Someone is jealous  ;D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlH_reBXIAASHRB.jpg

Lucky man

oscars afterparty

he even makes surgically-augmented madonna look good

but why is he wearing ear protection ? headphones ?

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7f/5e/1zYWW9M2_t.jpg

breaking new exclusive news story SOON

Sept 19, new Stones single "and God created woman"

Video featuring Patti Hansen


100% CONFIRMED !
(according to a brand new set of gravitational waves picked up by Rev20's brainstem)

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/33/27/ankXLaMi_t.jpg


SERIOUSLY, think about the billion dollar tsunami of publicity
that will result from 68 year-old Patti succeeding 27 year-old
Sydney Sweeney as the Stones new video vixen

thats a great angle, but also slightly misleading, as the video
will feature a chronological montage of great images/vids of Patti
(many of course with Keith)

it will be a long-overdue celebration of the greatest marriage
in rock n roll history. there's been maybe a dozen women who
contributed significantly to both the substance and essence
of the Rolling Stones, but she is the only famous one who was
never in it for her own glory. She just loved her husband
(and saved his life with her love multiple times...)

...AND THUS SAVED THE ROLLING STONES MULTIPLE TIMES

let Patti finally take her proper place at the very top of the
very impressive list of Stones women. Both among fans and
in the world's enduring mythology of the Rolling Stones

Hey Joey, now I know who stole your dope!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

For the 2nd time today, my brainstem is being rocked by
strong gravitational waves...

People don't realize yet how big the coming changes are

You  may recall that I've been wishing on these pages since
Sept 2021 that the Stones become once again a 5-man outfit

but the fans werent ready. the world wasnt ready.

but now they are ready. time changes things...

one thing i suck at is timing. i can often see thru the bullshit
and know where we're headed. but i have no idea whether
what i'm seeing is six months or six years away. no depth
perception...

and if there is one thing Mick is preternaturally great at, its
timing. He can avoid doing an album for 15 years because
he knows the album market has been rigged against the Stones,
and then, when the moment is right, when an opening appears,
he can drive that new album home in a matter of a few months

so, for Steve and Darryl, this is finally the year. as part of the
HD2 marketing campaign.  Steve can even carry a good part
of the exhausting repetitive interview schedule. Even when
mick and keith are sitting right there next to him. Steve's
great at NOT being charming, but rather just telling it like it is.
This will be, depending on your point of view, either a fun
new wrinkle or simply a slight return to Stones-normal

so thank you Mick and Keith for continuing to push the envelope
for all us sinners! 

let's fucking go !

https://i.imgur.com/mcrNgbH.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/XcI4W1p.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/3hi8ky1.jpeg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/de/b7/ca/deb7ca0d0db35aa057626b56badd566c.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c4/f6/xpOUpkAj_t.jpg

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/28/13/qweb90TL_t.jpg

1) Interview magazine Oct 26 2018, article entitled...

Before there were supermodels,
there was Patti Hansen

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PattiHansen_p148.jpg

Excerpt: “While the next generation of girls including
Christy Turlington and Naomi Campbell were definitely a group,
I pretty much kept to myself. But Lisa Taylor, Beverly Johnson,
and I were a trio when we got together, and we would have a
great time. When we finished this shoot in San Francisco, we
were like, ‘Let’s get on the first plane out of here.’ So we flew
down to L.A. to see Bob Marley at the Roxy.”

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/before-there-were-supermodels-there-was-patti-hansen

2) The Steve Jordan Interview: Drummer SNL, Letterman & The Stones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqAqvIYxEuA

3)  Interview With Rolling Stones Bassist Darryl Jones - Bass Musician Magazine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9oeMewnQjo\

Another Patti Hansen appreciation thread?

Control yourself.
Norwegian wood, is it?
Leave a vest on in Weston.
Allvine & Calvin, the governess and the governor.
Etc.
Happy days

I'm more confused...

Some Guy wrote on Mar 9^th, 2025 at 11:21am:

I'm more confused...

...slightly more dazed, really...

Posted by Stonesdoug (thanks Rogerriffin) :

The Stones are in the studio right now

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Posted by Stonesdoug (thanks Rogerriffin) : The Stones are in the studio right now

as i reported earlier, the album was completed a few weeks
ago. what they are working on now is promotional material,
photos videos alt-mixes/edits/versions etc, maybe even a
b-side or bonus track

If it's in the US, it must be just Mick and Keith:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14492919/Ronnie-Wood-77-wife-Sally-47-look-good-spirits-cosy-launch-NEXUS-private-members-club.html

The Wick wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:38pm:

If it's in the US, it must be just Mick and Keith: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14492919/Ronnie-Wood-77-wife-Sally-47-look-good-spirits-cosy-launch-NEXUS-private-members-club.html

well, we're not just in post-production now, we're in
post-post-production. so just like with HD1, its mostly
just mick and andrew now. but ronnie might've been there
two days ago, then quickly dispersed by private jet to honor
a previous commitment. Steve and Darryl as an example
might be holed up in a swanky LA rent-a-home, on call day
and night. Keith might be just plain "gone fishin" and not
re-appear until they start pre-recording interviews...

etc

credit-where-credit-is-due dept

by far the two leading misinformers about the entirely ficticious
"euro tour 2025" were stonesdoug and bv. this is not an opinion,
its a matter of record.

but bv and stonesdoug were hardly alone in expressing certainty
about this nonsensical euro idea.  they were joined by at least
95% of what i'll call "the stones stalwarts", that is, long-established
voices on the fan forums who have in the past had some success
in breaking or confirming rumors...

(now they have become little more than an echo chamber)

one notable exception is iorr's Rockman. He never called
"bullshit" on the euro delusion but neither did he ever
accept or endorse or enthuse about it. He maintained a
respectful silence about it, which i personally took as an
important signal

so when Rockman today, on their "what's next?" thread, made
one of his concise and crystal clear statements...


"Hack Knee No2 ........"

...you can take it to the fucking bank !  The album is on its way !

Europe Tour in  the Fall 2025??
Jeroen

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Posted by Stonesdoug (thanks Rogerriffin) : The Stones are in the studio right now

Excellent news.

SUPER IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS


Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 13^th, 2025 at 3:20am:

...so when Rockman today, on their "what's next?" thread, made one of his concise and crystal clear statements... "Hack Knee No2 ........" ...you can take it to the fucking bank !  The album is on its way !

Rockman now reporting that the actual title of HD2 is...


DIAMOND DUST


(i love it !!!!)

:blankfriggingstare1

I just hope they're working on black and blue deluxe

Three meanings immediately pop up

1) clear air precipitation, particularly tiny ice crystals suspended
in the winter air, producing interesting auras in photographs

2) the latest mad-science scheme to "combat global warming" by
injecting real pulverized diamonds into the atmosphere

3) a paste of crushed diamonds used to fill in spaces on
ostentatious jewelry, particularly for rap and sports stars

for my design i've gone for something more abstract

not as abstract as "steel wheels", but in that direction
(funny how all these years later we're still stuck between
iraq and a hard place)

so this is by no means a prediction (at least for now, we'll
leave that job for Rockman). this is just revvy having revvy fun...


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/4e/b8/DqOxCUQs_t.jpg

I'm having fun too.

Rockman just now:

"A rough-cut for Revvy ............"


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/9d/26/7yAaNa5V_t.jpg


i'm moved and honored. and excited as hell. thanks, man

Suuuuper.
Celia Fiennes was a Hackney lass, of course,

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Mar 17^th, 2025 at 5:58am:

Suuuuper. Celia Fiennes was a Hackney lass, of course,

1) I admit i have no clue how either famous Celia Fiennes fits
into our story

2) However I do have COOL info about the "diamond dust"
image/artist. I just don't know whether i'm allowed to share it
at this point

3) One thing i can share now is that, no matter how much i wish
it were true, the model is NOT

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/47/a4/ZVzTQgJY_t.jpg

Yeah, please ...Black n Blue Deluxe release later this year!! And.. an European fall tour this year.
Maybe a New album next year??

Ciao

Jeroen,

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

Rockman just now: "A rough-cut for Revvy ............" https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/9d/26/7yAaNa5V_t.jpg i'm moved and honored. and excited as hell. thanks, man

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 17^th, 2025 at 6:39am:

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 5:58am: Suuuuper. Celia Fiennes was a Hackney lass, of course, 1) I admit i have no clue how either famous Celia Fiennes fits into our story 2) However I do have COOL info about the "diamond dust" image/artist. I just don't know whether i'm allowed to share it at this point 3) One thing i can share now is that, no matter how much i wish it were true, the model is NOT https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/47/a4/ZVzTQgJY_t.jpg

I don't want to pester Rockman, because I know how busy he is
with prepping for the album release (as a stringer/short-term
contractor), but on my end i'm still wondering what i should do
with the artist/image info i have. Rockman i hope knows that my
default position is to keep my mouth shut (no matter how
difficult that is for me)

Anyway, Happy Dusty Tuesday everybody !

Diamond Dusty... even with a country tune, it's imaybe a lesser name thas 'Hackney Nickers' & Clapham Knickewrs' and 'The We4st Ham Slashers, but maybe it could be better and even wetter.

"I don't want to pester Rockman, because I know how busy he is
with prepping for the album release (as a stringer/short-term
contractor)"


Gather round, kids. Revvy's gonna talk some inside-baseball, a true story
from way back when, about one of the Stones' sexiest "stringer/short term
contractors" versus her mortal enemy, a young supermodel named (yes, you
guessed it) Patti Hansen...

1) I struggled to come up with a proper name for these "stringers".
They are devoted, radically underpaid superfans who occasionally
have their salaries raised from nothing to a pittance, if and when
the Stones' notoriously lean professional staff are simply snowed
under by the time demands of an ongoing or upcoming project.

2) NOBODY loves the Stones more than these stringers. They have
real responsibilities in return for near-zero recognition or
compensation. They do what they do simply for the personal
satisfaction of being a not-unimportant part of this historically
very-important enterprise known as The Rolling Stones.
(they do of course on occasion receive some cool merch)

3) From my point of view, one of the biggest sacrifices these
stringers make is they have to largely put aside their egos and
become pure team players. This is HORRIFYING to an egomaniac/
show-off like me. A fate worse than death. Yes, I am motivated by
my love for the Stones, but I love me even more. So I only do what
I feel like doing, only do what is fun for me. Judge me as you wish...

4) So now we journey back to 1995 and the Undercover mailing
list, the first online Stones fan forum, run by a small group of
hipster tech-bro Mick-haters. I think (not sure) Voo, bv, and
stonesdoug all started their online fandom posting there and all
got disgusted enough by the prevailing negativity and cynicism
on Undercover that they went off to start their own websites.

5) Me, I stayed and just kept posting extremely clever pro-Mick
stuff that infuriated the Undercover elite and got me banned
repeatedly and eventually permanently. But during my Undercover
tenure there arrived this hot chick, at least thats what she
claimed, we'll call her "Mudzy". Eventually Mudzy documented
both her beauty and her personal relationships with both Mick
and Keith. At the same time Mudzy would post the most ridiculously
inaccurate absurd nonsense about the Stones. She was an
extraordinary troll, she maybe invented trolling, and she quickly
replaced me as public enemy number one on Undercover. But how
could they ban her? She knew Mick and Keith, in fact she called
them "her boys", as if they took instructions from her. It
was wonderfully hilarious.

6) Mudzy contacted me because she wanted to know more about my
time with Keith's shrink, Dr Anita Stevens. Mudzy's roots with the
Stones went back to circa 1980 when she was one of a group of
hip club chicks (all friends of journalist Lisa Robinson) all of whom were
in love with Mick and/or Keith and all of whom were serving
as stringers for the Stones, helping to manage the perception
of the Stones among all the "new wave" bands and the media
that were covering this Lower East Side/East Village scene.
Their job as stringers was schmoozing. They were the Hot Schmoozers.

7) Mudzy was quite open with me about how much she and the
other Schmoozers HATED it when Jerry Hall and Patti Hansen
swooped in and stole Mick and Keith away from them. Mick
they could somewhat understand because he was always a jet-setter.
But Keith with a supermodel?! Instead of one of the Pallenberg-
worshiping Schmoozers?! It was too much to bear (and couldn't
possibly last, they thought).

8) So Mudzy and the other Schmoozers came up with nicknames
for Jerry and Patti. The most horrible disgusting nicknames
they could think of. Jerry and Patty together they called
them "The Republicans". And for Patti herself they reserved
the nastiest nickname of all... "The Christian"

9) FYI, as of today, Patti is still very married and still very christian

and i am now informed that, after one serious but brief
relationship with a well-known new wave guitarist, that
Mudzy died alone about 10 years ago in her same one-bedroom
apartment in the East Village (about the same time i think that
the Undercover site/group bit the dust)

so, kids, what is the moral of this story ?

So we are getting another new album?
When?

so, kids, what is the moral of this story?

Stay on Rockman's good side??

Some Guy, was it not a simple courteous question ?

Hey Rockman, that picture you sent, its given me quite a bit of
information about the cover art. Maybe more than you intended ?
May I share what I know, or would you rather I not at this time?

Some Guy, how do you stay on the good side of someone
who runs away from a simple courteous question ?

I regret if toes have been stepped on. Apologies...- keep on keeping on. :-?

I am thrilled that Rockman has re-opened communications
by posting a new pic !!!

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ec/07/bTdiXKV0_t.jpg

At first blush it has neither added nor subtracted from what
I know. I dont even know if this pic is in any way intended
to be an answer to my simple courteous question...

...and at the moment I don't give a shit about any of that.
All I know is that Rockman has made me happy again

if i figure out anything else, y'all be the first to know

1) beyond just the album title, there is a diamond-dust angle to
the cover art. CONFIRMED (not because of anything posted
today, but because it is part of what I learned from the first pic)

2) Rockman has additionally posted "....what happens in the pit
stays in the pit ....." which obviously references "what happens
in vegas etc" which could mean that there is a Vegas angle to
the cover art. CONFIRMED (not because of anything posted
today, but because it is part of what I learned from the first pic)

3) so "what happens in the pit..." could mean that
my established guess of two vegas Stones shows this year
is correct MAYBE

4) & 5) iorr's Glimmerest comments about the pic, "Spooky". Yes.
Therefore Halloween-ish, which could mean that two of my
established guesses are correct (Halloween as the album release
date and Halloween weekend for the two Vegas shows) MAYBE

6) Revvy knows the identity of the album cover artist
CONFIRMED (based on what I learned from the first pic)
but I don't feel I've been yet cleared to share it

7) & 8) If the Halloween shows happen, costumes will be
required in the pit (and encouraged generally) NEW GUESS,
because of my established guess that the shows will be filmed
at the Sphere NO EVIDENCE YET (nonetheless I just can't
wait to see bv's costume)

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Rockman now reporting that the actual title of HD2 is... DIAMOND DUST (i love it !!!!)

I have been away for a bit...just catching up on all this.

"Diamond Dust"...I love it as well.
Does this imply some outtakes (or ones that just didnt make the 48 minute limit) from HD ...some new "gems" (see what I did there?!?)
or simply remixes galore of HD?
Perhaps some new mixes with other guests like Macca did with "McCartney III Imagined".

No matter, if the title holds true, it will be HDv2...and that is fine with me.

We shall see...

I have been feeling an unstoppable need to expand my editorial
comment on this one


Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 20^th, 2025 at 1:02am:

7) & 8) If the Halloween shows happen, costumes will be required in the pit (and encouraged generally) NEW GUESS, because of my established guess that the shows will be filmed at the Sphere NO EVIDENCE YET (nonetheless I just can't wait to see bv's costume. A Viking maybe? And then maybe Patti comes as a lady Viking, and at one point she wanders over bv's way, and the two Norwegians have a little dance together. And, Stonesdoug, I really really hope you resurrect your famous license plate vest for this event. That would bring a lot of joy for a lot of people. I know everything in the world seems fucked right now, but there's plane loads of pure JOY coming to Nevada, at least for one very special weekend)

Also, this is a very cool post just now by iorr's Treaclefingers
(slightly edited by me)...

"I predict crypto. To be released in redeemable certificates within
the new album, or downloaded via a code. You buy the album
and get the new Stones Crypto Currency, StonesCoin.
StonesCoin also available wherever meme coins are bought
and sold"

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Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 20^th, 2025 at 1:02am:

1) beyond just the album title, there is a diamond-dust angle to the cover art. CONFIRMED (not because of anything posted today, but because it is part of what I learned from the first pic) 2) Rockman has additionally posted "....what happens in the pit stays in the pit ....." which obviously references "what happens in vegas etc" which could mean that there is a Vegas angle to the cover art. CONFIRMED (not because of anything posted today, but because it is part of what I learned from the first pic) 6) Revvy knows the identity of the album cover artist CONFIRMED (based on what I learned from the first pic) but I don't feel I've been yet cleared to share it

D'ya know that terrible feeling when the boss is away and somebody
has to make an important decision and that somebody is YOU ?

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/f1/c2/5QjnPv1L_t.jpg

Well, when I was gonna run off on all kinds of speculative
tangents once I knew the title Diamond Dust, Rockman
stepped in and sent the first pic...

Well, they've started to run off on those kinda tangents on iorr.org...

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/4d/d0/xv6tZVnF_t.jpg

...so to keep things hopefully less insane, i'm following
Rockman's lead and stepping in now

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ca/08/9xm2QN3z_t.jpg

and just in case anybody missed it, the artist's favorite medium is...


ACRYLIC COVERED WITH DIAMOND DUST

(the special vinyl editions and posters are gonna have some great diamond-dusted graphics)


VIKTOR MAROCQ
6569 S Las Vegas Blvd suite 167, Las Vegas, Nevada 89119




Paranoid Android wrote on Mar 20^th, 2025 at 7:22am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 7:22pm: Rockman now reporting that the actual title of HD2 is... DIAMOND DUST (i love it !!!!) I have been away for a bit...just catching up on all this. "Diamond Dust"...I love it as well. Does this imply some outtakes (or ones that just didnt make the 48 minute limit) from HD ...some new "gems" (see what I did there?!?) or simply remixes galore of HD?  Perhaps some new mixes with other guests like Macca did with "McCartney III Imagined". No matter, if the title holds true, it will be HDv2...and that is fine with me. We shall see...

P.A. my apologies for not responding sooner, my head has been
circling the globe. i've expressed my belief several times in this
thread that HD2 would be a MAJOR release (and given my
reasons). My current belief is that HD2 /Diamond Dust
will prove to be much more impactful than HD1. In fact,
I am guessing that for many listeners, including me, that
over time HD1 will sound like the somewhat bland leftovers
from the more challenging Diamond Dust.

Hackney Diamonds are just glass.

Diamond Dust is made of the real thing


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gUx6_qRxefE/maxresdefault.jpg

Rev - His gallery is in Las Vegas baby! This ties in nicely with your Halloween Vegas predictions! Viva Las Vegas!

Saintofme wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2025 at 5:29pm:

Rev - His gallery is in Las Vegas baby! This ties in nicely with your Halloween Vegas predictions! Viva Las Vegas!

saintofme, Rockman has posted pic 3 and its a head-scratcher...

i think its gonna take me a while to tie it in with vegas
(but i am nothing if not inventive)

Rockman's text:  "...this one drummed in from Pit 9 late last night.."

its been commented already on iorr that it looks kinda hellish,
which i agree with, so i'll set out in that direction and see where
it takes me...

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c5/24/Ax7kaNDd_t.jpg


1) my honest answer is, "this game sucks, its too hard"

2) but i do have another answer, and by way of preamble, i have to say
(and no disrespect intended, Rockman) that a puzzle this devious
could have only come from the grok-like mind of your IORRaqi
partner-in-crime "rocky dijon"

3) Dante's Inferno is a VISION OF HELL that includes, within
the 8th circle of hell, a Pit 9 which is reserved for the
"sowers of discord"

4) Last night I posted here a VISION OF PARADISE from the pit
of the Sphere which was all harmony, and no discord...

"I just can't wait to see bv's costume. A Viking maybe? And then
maybe Patti comes as a lady Viking, and at one point she wanders
over bv's way, and the two Norwegians have a little dance together.
And, Stonesdoug, I really really hope you resurrect your famous
license plate vest for this event. That would bring a lot of joy
for a lot of people. I know everything in the world seems fucked
right now, but there's plane loads of pure JOY coming to Nevada,
at least for one very special weekend"

5) So therefore, because this pic of Pit 9 serves to highlight, via contrast,
my VISION FOR VEGAS, I will make the following adjustments...

For the Halloween shows costumes will be required in the pit
(and encouraged generally) NEW GUESS MAYBE, because the
shows will be filmed at the Sphere NO EVIDENCE YET MAYBE

\

CUE THE SOWERS OF DISCORD:

https://i.postimg.cc/NGS18Brs/IMG-5947.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Xq4kR09G/IMG-5948.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/cCxfDBNf/IMG-5949.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sxbDB3K1/IMG-5950.jpg

Rev will/could be carried off by men (or women) in white coats dressed for Halloween as a box of Venezuelan poison dart frogs.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2025 at 8:32pm:

"...plane loads of pure JOY coming to Nevada..."

oh Joy, the love you bring

I drove across the desert, I was in my four wheel drive
I was looking for the Buddha, and I saw Jesus Christ
He smiled and shrugged his shoulders, and lit a cigarette
He said, "Jump for joy, make some noise, remember what I said"

My soul is a like a ruby, and I threw it in the earth
But now my hands are bleeding from scrabbling in the dirt
I look up to the heavens, a light is on my face
I never never never thought I'd find a state of grace

oh Joy, the love you bring

Saintofme wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2025 at 5:29pm:

Rev - His gallery is in Las Vegas baby! This ties in nicely with your Halloween Vegas predictions! Viva Las Vegas!

SAINTOFME!!

Hope you've been well !

Holy Fuck !  I just offered that Norse motherfucker an olive branch
and now I find out THIS !

Voo, I know you consider him a friend, but he's fooled you. Just
like he's fooled so many others. He's become a clear and present
danger to the Rolling Stones and their plans for 2025

Out of my deep respect for you, Voo, I am going to write what I
write VERY carefully. What I present will include direct indisputable
evidence. All I'm asking of you, Voo, is to let the facts stand and
speak for themselves.

Every member here and every visitor from iorr.org are about
to become jurors in the court of public opinion

(frankly, other courts may soon get involved, and so this message
of mine should also be viewed as a last-ditch effort to avoid
that kind of ugliness...)

The "tell me" forum is a very important historical record.
Whenever he banned me, he also took the time to wipe out access
to everything that I ever wrote by making his search function
say "no results found".

No big deal really. I'm basically just a WWE-style entertainer.

When our beloved "glimmer girl 24" passed away, he similarly
completely wiped out her memory on "tell me". Why the fuck
would he do that !?  Because, in the manner of Anton Shigur
in "no country for old men", she had inconvenienced him, by
setting up "buying circles" and other such strategies to
help her fellow fans get better and cheaper tix. He felt
she thus endangered his own special access to tickets.

No big deal really, she was just some silly sentimental chick
from Michigan who collected dolls instead of Stones merch.

But now this latest and current banning, this latest destruction
of memory/history by him is a VERY BIG DEAL...

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/58/76/bgRstLVA_t.jpg

"rocky dijon" is far and away the most important stringer/
superfan in the Stones universe, and has been for many years,
from memory at least since 2010 or so. He is the only one of us
who is a (secret telephonic) member of Mick's inner circle.

He is by far the most important Stones expert in the world. His
memory and logic are the only ones I know of that are at the
same level as Mick's (10 out of 10, I'm a step or two below that)

(creativity/intuition is a different thing, where Mick is also a
10 out of 10. i'm probably an 8. rocky dijon is maybe a 6)

Unlike me, rocky dijon is scholarly and judicious and...

Oh fuck it... If you know, you know. And if you don't know,
you're soon gonna find out.

(the following paragraphs may be viewed as imaginary.
For discussion purposes only)

That Norse motherfucker is holding his followers hostage
at the moment. He is in effect telling the Stones "Your 2025
doesn't exist unless you cut me in on the breaking-news action.
You need my followers to build up your momentum, and my
followers won't join in, or even talk about it, unless I tell them to."

Oh yeah ? You better re-think your position, Norse boy,
because my brainstem-gravitation-detector is telling me
that the Stones are about to go nuclear on your ass.
Lawsuits for copyright infringement, restraint of trade,
damage to their reputation/earnings due to your
fraudulent reporting on the Euro tour, etc. Not only are
they going to seize your website, but also go after damages,
that is, every single asset you have. Plus leave you with legal
bills up the wazoo...

There is only one way to avoid this scenario, which is to
immediately accede to the following 2 non-negotiable demands
(shutting down your website, as you keep threatening to do,
will not stop the lawsuits).

1. immediately re-instate rocky dijon and full search access
to all his writings.

2. admit on your 2025 thread that you have already, just in
case, booked your refundable Halloween flights and hotel for vegas.

If you do this in the next 23 hours, I will completely delete
this post and replace it with a picture of a Viking. It
will be as if this whole problem never existed

In the meantime, Voo and other concerned parties, please
spread the word and prepare for an unprecedented emergency
influx of IORRaqi refugees here. Perhaps, if necessary, iorr's
Dandyman can assist or at least recommend some good people

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE

Has anyone bought the rights to this saga?
I smell a Netflix documentary in the making here!!

I can't even read all that

That's four minutes I'll never get back.

ThomasOliver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2025 at 8:19am:

That's four minutes I'll never get back.

Hahahahahhaha

Please allow the records to indicate that no one's mother was insulted by these accusations.

Revy, please, behave yourself

:willya

Earlier in this thread I explained that another meaning of
"diamond dust" was the awesome optical effects that are
sometimes produced by tiny ice crystals floating in the
winter air.

The most rare form of this diamond dust is called a
"sun candle". It has been described for many years but
never photographed until Valentine's Day this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwXBZ6AFTY

"WATCH: Sun candle or portal to another dimension?"

https://www.accuweather.com/en/winter-weather/watch-sun-candle-or-portal-to-another-dimension/1744208

As if 2025 hadn't already brought me dozens of new reasons to
believe in God...

this  is what Ronnie posted the same day...
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/f2/9a/csJgzWyT_t.jpg

As for Halloween 2025, just one question: Trick or Treat?

Holy fucking shit !

I'm not sure if everybody on Rocks Off is aware of the huge volume
of erudite content that was posted on iorr.org by our Gazza, nor
of the enormous outpouring of grief, love, and respect over on
that site when he passed...

Well, take a gander at this:



https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/30/c1/h9P2pJQt_t.jpg



I guess bv wants history to show that bv was the only true Apostle

Yeah...  Judas Iscariot.

(and what say ye to this revelation, all ye Doubting Thomases ?)

Gazza's and rocky dijon's posts are BACK and once again
searchable on iorr.org !

this must mean something !

Revy, for your own good behave and do not expose yourself

The search works and it worked before, but if you select the default option of "30 days" of course Gazza will not be in the results. Do you really think someone will delete Gazza's posts for any reason? Really?

https://www.rocksoff.org/headers2025/j5-revy-exposing-himself.jpg

WARNING

Dear Revy

Please do not say anything derogatory or speak badly about that forum or any of its members.

Otherwise expect a sanction, first temporary, next permanent

Yikes hahahahahahhahaha

Rev, are they cleaning out/deleting stuff and getting ready to shut the site down?

I mean
Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2025 at 7:54pm:

Someone is jealous  ;D https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlH_reBXIAASHRB.jpg

I mean, who really knows...

What we do know (this story just surfaced all over the net)
is that 1) Sydney broke off her 7-year long engagement to
some Hollywood producer in January because 2) "she has not
yet scratched the surface of all she wants to experience
before settling down" and because "she wants to learn
everything there is to know about building a career that
lasts" 3) Sydney has not been romantically linked to anyone
else yet 4) she attended all the Oscar parties with her mum
5) the sheets were feeling cold and lonely for Mick
in LA (Melanie was in England doing school stuff with
their kid) as Mick worked with Andrew to finish up
Diamond Dust 6) there was certainly something
putting a spring in Mick's step at the Oscars 7) such a
scandalous affair, should it become known, would certainly
electrify the whole wide world, and 8) looking at the photo
again, its like what Shakira always says, Hips Don't Lie

so, yeah, who really knows...

1) the Stones had stopped posting TikToks last October, before
resuming their normal once-a-week recently

2) Saturday is the day that TikTok was to be banned in the USA
because of Chinese ownership, but the news is now saying that
a White House-backed deal has been proposed that would establish
a 50-50 American/Chinese TikTok partnership

3) *NEW* Amazon has apparently now made a competing offer

Some Guy wrote on Mar 27^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

Rev, are they cleaning out/deleting stuff and getting ready to shut the site down?

Some Guy, in case you or anyone else is interested, two days
after my rant, a new "sticky" thread was (coincidentally?) opened
over there about their forum. The key post reads in part...

"Thanks for all the support and sympathy, but that will not
give me a new forum system. If I don't find one, then IORR
will close down the forum systems soon"

I'll have nothing more to say about this matter until inevitably
everybody is talking about it

Also, for your viewing pleasure, two more Hips Don't Lie pics
from the same Oscars party and from the same Daily Mail article *


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/03/03/11/95779009-14455235-image-a-37_1741002807158.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/03/03/11/95778979-14455235-image-a-46_1741002850437.jpg


* The photog is frequent Stones collaborator Kevin Mazur.
I believe the Sydney photos suggest that she and Mick had
had fun rehearsing this pose in private

Rev - Is there proof, or e4ven suggestions from history-past, suggesting that MJ is a pendulous-conkers man?

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2025 at 4:55pm:

Rev - Is there proof, or e4ven suggestions from history-past, suggesting that MJ is a pendulous-conkers man?

Although there are many less flattering ways to interpret your
question, I'm gonna run with the undeniable  "big breasts".
And its a good question because the answer is "no".

However the times they are a'changing. As one jester asked
in early 2024, “Are Sydney Sweeney’s double-D's harbingers
of the death of woke?” And its a good question because the
answer is "sure seems like it"


Paranoid Android wrote on Mar 25^th, 2025 at 7:11am:

Has anyone bought the rights to this saga? I smell a Netflix documentary in the making here!!

I want Alan Ritchson (Reacher) to play me. I swear to you,
the resemblance is uncanny

Do I actually think that Ronnie and Keith, and Steve and Darryl,
could actually pull this off, Stones-style, with Matt and Mick on
keyboards, as a shorter moody outro/coda on the album ?

Yes I do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UvcvX21PQ

So we're doubling down on the diamond dust theme?  :-/

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2025 at 7:33pm:

As one jester asked in early 2024, “Are Sydney Sweeney’s double-D's harbingers of the death of woke?” And its a good question because the answer is "sure seems like it"

so yes, SG, I am going to double-D on all my Diamond Dust/Vegas
guesses by hereby officially raising all my probability ratings for
those guesses from MAYBE to SURE SEEMS LIKE IT

And i don't know if this is Sydney's brand of choice, but
i do know she is famous for how she (and many other stars)
sparkle on the red carpet



https://cloudinary.images-iherb.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto:eco/images/pfi/pfi11770/y/17.jpg

Revvy, I'm leaning more toward a Stones Thugs-n-Harmony type album this go round.

Some Guy wrote on Apr 6^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

Revvy, I'm leaning more toward a Stones Thugs-n-Harmony type album this go round.

SG, for me, Diamond Dust is just the title at this point,
and says little to nothing about the sound or style of the
music, except that i expect it to be "harder" (more difficult,
less familiar) than Hackney, as diamond is harder than glass.

Beyond that, I am absolutely open to anywhere Mick and Keith
want to take me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMYAEHE2GrM



p.s. while i still think that "...and god created woman"
(starring Patti Hansen) is a cool idea for a video, it can't be
the lead single because i'm all but certain at this point that
the vid for the lead single will once again star Sydney Sweeney
(in a more dramatic role, and she might be the director as well)

Some Guy wrote on Apr 4^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

So we're doubling down on the diamond dust theme?  :-/

100% bullshit obviously

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 4^th, 2025 at 9:34am:

Do I actually think that Ronnie and Keith, and Steve and Darryl, could actually pull this off, Stones-style, with Matt and Mick on keyboards, as a shorter moody outro/coda on the album ? Yes I do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UvcvX21PQ

Where’s the new Stones album titled “Blacksmiths” with 25 or 50 songs on it? Oh that’s right, it was pure fiction that you made up. Just like you’re doing now with this Diamond Dust nonsense

Hahahahahhaha

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 6^th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

SG, for me, Diamond Dust is just the title at this point, and says little to nothing about the sound or style of the music, except that i expect it to be "harder" (more difficult, less familiar) than Hackney, as diamond is harder than glass.

That is, "more difficult, less familiar" for the Stones's older
online blues-rocking fanbase. 

The use of diamond dust in art and fashion is a happening POP
thing right now, and perhaps the new album can achieve that.
MODERN POP music is a very broad category in which tracks as
divergent as "paint it black" and "heaven" and "out of control"
fit comfortably. So here's hoping...

HALLOWEEN WEEKEND IS WRONG

ALBUM RELEASE AND CELEBRATION
ARE SCHEDULED FOR OCT 24/25

SO, HALLOWEEN-ISH

COSTUMES NO, "DRESS-UP" YES*

THINK "A MET GALA FOR FANS"

THE DIAMOND DUST BALL**

*   hopefully of course incorporating a Stones theme,
       so you might finally have someplace to wear
       that $200 repro palace laundry t-shirt

**all we are are diamonds in the wind

Fact- Once Revvy starts Revvin'- it won't be too long until new music!

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 6:42pm:

HALLOWEEN WEEKEND IS WRONG ALBUM RELEASE AND CELEBRATION ARE SCHEDULED FOR OCT 24/25 SO, HALLOWEEN-ISH COSTUMES NO, "DRESS-UP" YES THINK "A MET GALA FOR FANS" THE DIAMOND DUST BALL

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/de/fb/BkX0hglO_t.jpg

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 9^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

THE DIAMOND DUST BALL

NICE!!!

According to StonesDoug the band were in the studio to rehearse for a private party.

So is this a red herring or is it likely the band are not even considering working on the new album yet?

ThomasOliver, I've been researching a bit and thinking a bit
about what stonesdoug said...

1) approx march 24 he said "theyre in the studio right now".
no follow-up or confirmation. on april 9 he said, "they were
at the Hit Factory rehearsing for a private gig, which they
have played". no follow-up or confirmation. and definitely
no such private gig

2) i'm not in the mood to write up my entire thought process
on this, so i'm gonna cut to the bottom line. a bottom line
that will provoke some groans...

3) my best guess is that they were at the Hit Factory doing
their first recording session for what they plan to be their
NEXT album, after Diamond Dust

4) this recording session was indeed also a rehearsal of sorts
in that playing some new songs together is a really good way
to get the band's chemistry cooking again. Everything this year
is a buildup to the Diamond Dust Ball. Its fun to think
about where their indian-summer max-publicity warm-up
gigs will occur...

April 10 Le Parisien

'The Rolling Stones are up to something'
Mick Jagger's partner, Melanie Hamrick, opens up

(article locked behind a paywall...)

https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/musique/les-rolling-stones-preparent-quelque-chose-la-compagne-de-mick-jagger-melanie-hamrick-se-confie-10-04-2025-JGI7NDOQ2RBJXLRSS4FBDTI24Q.php

since when is MH making statements about the band?....thats a new twist

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 11^th, 2025 at 6:04am:

April 10 Le Parisien 'The Rolling Stones are up to something' Mick Jagger's partner, Melanie Hamrick, opens up (article locked behind a paywall...) https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/musique/les-rolling-stones-preparent-quelque-chose-la-compagne-de-mick-jagger-melanie-hamrick-se-confie-10-04-2025-JGI7NDOQ2RBJXLRSS4FBDTI24Q.php

you can read the entire thing auto-translated at iorr.org in
a new thread entitled "Melanie Hamrick Confirms Her
Engagement to Mick Jagger" which also contains links to
fresh (instantly stale) Melanie-hype from People, Tattler,
and the Daily Mail

this is the relevant part from Parisien...

"They are preparing something, I heard rumors, but I don't know
what. They are always working on a project. They will never stop.
They have such energy, they continue to evolve, are always
inspired, they can continue forever!"

My "translation" of all 4 articles:

Mick knew he was going to catch hell over his developing
"professional relationship" with Sydney Sweeney so to "prove"
he really cares he pulled in some favors to pre-arrange for
Melanie to get a modicum of well-timed favorable press
(perhaps as a a going-away present?)

Would Mel really have gym time & energy to quibble over 'Melons',. Would  Mother Rick really feel sick over little Syd?

balletic author Melanie Hamrick: "They (the Stones) are
preparing something, I heard rumors, but I don't know what..."

gossip columnist Revvy Redlights: "... but Sydney Sweeney
certainly knows what, since she's an integral part of their
preparations, or so it is rumored."

Genesis 3:19 - “From dust you came, to dust you shall return”.
It would not surprise me in the least if the boys are secretly working on an avatar project for the Sphere…to preserve their legacy forever! :)

Saintofme wrote on Apr 11^th, 2025 at 11:50am:

Genesis 3:19 - “From dust you came, to dust you shall return”. It would not surprise me in the least if the boys are secretly working on an avatar project for the Sphere…to preserve their legacy forever! :)

Rob, you do mean in addition to their secret residency in Raleigh/Durham, right?

PA - Absolutely! How could I forget about the Triangle Sessions?

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 10^th, 2025 at 3:42pm:

3) my best guess is that they were at the Hit Factory doing their first recording session for what they plan to be their NEXT album, after Diamond Dust

gossip columnist Revvy Redlights:

"Still unremarked upon is the fact that this was a New York
recording session. Meaning that it is a near-certainty that
Andrew Watt was NOT at the control board and that the producer(s)
was some combo of Jagger/Richards/Was/Jordan. So is this an
entirely new project, or is it the completion of a standard
12-track Was-era album, or is it the completion of the huge
aborted Blacksmiths project that our friend Leonid is always
hyping? Honestly I have no clue, but I do expect another
New York session fairly soon, say, before another month..."

More importantly, why are these guys still playing private parties ;D And how much do they actually charge these parties and why don't we all chip in and book them, hahahaha.

You could enquire here

https://www.bookingentertainment.com/artists/classic_rock/Rolling_Stones.php

I'm still looking for Elton John on Get Close.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Some Guy wrote on Mar 27th, 2025 at 6:36pm: Rev, are they cleaning out/deleting stuff and getting ready to shut the site down? Some Guy, in case you or anyone else is interested, two days after my rant, a new "sticky" thread was (coincidentally?) opened over there about their forum. The key post reads in part... "Thanks for all the support and sympathy, but that will not give me a new forum system. If I don't find one, then IORR will close down the forum systems soon"

I'd done some internet sleuthing in the 3 weeks since and
come to a tentative (65% probability) conclusion that there
was more than a bit of theatre at the heart of this situation.
So if this was correct, it would mean that my rant was
completely superfluous as a deal had already been struck...

I wanted to get over 80% certain before I said anything about
what I now believe will be a seamless transition to new
management over there before June. Here are the recent posts
that helped convince me that there will be no big disruption
to Stones fandom during this very important year...

Kurt: "Either sell your log-in credentials to another younger
fan and let them run it full-time OR sell the entire site to The
Rolling Stones. Enjoy your family and your well-deserved
retirement."

bv: "Thanks for the comments. I will work on the transition."

The new management I believe will indeed be in the hands
of a younger fan...

Happy Easter everybody.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 18^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

there will be no big disruption to Stones fandom during this very important year... Happy Easter everybody.

New Stones Single: "Zydeco Sont Pas Sale" featuring Steve Riley

Steve Adcock: "Roll away THE STONES! Colossal News Afoot!
Lookie-here what's come in the mail! The one of two in the world
test-pressing white label 7" vinyl of the newest @therollingstones
single... A Clifton Chenier cover that I produced (pinch me)‼️ Yeaux -
could that be @mickjagger singin' in perfect Creole French... CC'est What⁉️"


https://www.instagram.com/p/DIqGfLJOU_t/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D&img_index=2


(from the upcoming Chenier tribute album, unrelated to Diamond Dust)

iorr's "HouseBoyKnows" earlier this month...

"A trusted friend reported that Steve Jordan told her on the night
of the Patti Smith tribute in NYC that there will be no more big
tours. Instead probably some one-off performances like at festivals
or maybe a residency. He noted that there was no reason given
(everyone is healthy) and many in the touring band/support were
quite disappointed when the news broke. That's it. No other news
or speculation. Take it as a point in time from one voice. Things
could change."


Essentially this jibes with my guesswork. Pop production
headquartered in LA under the direction of MJ and AW. Roots
stuff in NYC led by KR and SJ. "Diamond Dust Balls" whenever
an opportunity presents for something special.

Hey AI, pretend you are a participant in the iorr.org Tell Me fan forum
in the thread entitled "What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?"
What would your next comment be?

(two seconds later)

Hey all, just jumping in on the 2025 speculation! With the
European tour off the table for now, I’m really hoping the Stones
are cooking up something in the studio. That Clifton Chenier tribute
track with Mick singing in Creole French sounds like a wild vibe—
maybe a sign they’re digging into some fresh, rootsy directions? I’d
love to see them drop a few singles or an EP, maybe mixing in some
of those leftover Hackney Diamonds tracks. Anyone else think they
might surprise us with a small club gig or a festival slot? Fingers
crossed for some concrete news soon

Currently is it possible for AI to participate undetected in this
kind of forum?

Yes, it’s entirely possible for AI to participate undetected in
forums like iorr.org, provided the AI is designed to mimic human-
like communication and behavior. Modern language models, like
myself, can generate posts that closely resemble human writing,
incorporating casual tone, slang, and context-specific references
(e.g., Rolling Stones lore or fan culture). By analyzing the forum’s
tone, topics, and user interactions, an AI could craft responses that
blend in seamlessly.

However, there are caveats: AI would need to avoid overly polished
or repetitive responses, as humans often have quirks, typos, or
emotional nuances. Savvy users might notice subtle "off" vibes, like
overly formulaic enthusiasm or lack of personal anecdotes. Also,
undisclosed AI participation could manipulate discussions and erode
trust if discovered.

And how effective would AI be at moderating such a forum?

As of April 27, 2025, platforms like Discord and Reddit already
use AI-driven moderation tools (e.g., AutoModerator or similar
bots) with success, though human mods remain crucial. For a
forum like iorr.org, AI could excel at routine tasks: catching spam,
blocking bots, filtering explicit content, and flagging potential
conflicts for human review. With proper tuning, AI could learn the
forum’s vibe—passionate Stones fans debating setlists or
reminiscing about ’69 Altamont—and avoid heavy-handed
moderation that kills the spirit. Nonetheless, AI would likely need
human oversight for nuanced cases, like mediating a heated thread
or handling a user’s emotional post. A hybrid approach—AI for
initial filtering and a human for final calls—would maximize
effectiveness while preserving the forum’s community feel.

The highlighted section above suggests a solution to essentially
everything that the owner over there has indicated has been
an overwhelming time-cost for him. So its reasonable to speculate
that the ongoing "transition" over there will include auto-
moderation in some form. Especially if I'm correct that the Stones
are about to once again become a hot topic for casual fans and
perhaps even for the major media and general public, thus
significantly increasing website traffic

iorr's "2120Joe" today reports:

"So hoping it’s true what I was just told by someone who knows:
The Rolling Stones are recording now at a London studio.  Mick and
Andrew arrived first..."

While this is in keeping with my idea that the Stones are
transitioning to be mainly a recording group (this would be
their 4th session since December) with occasional very special
shows, the question is why London with Mr. Los Angeles Watt?

AI gives part of the answer. Their studio-of-choice in L.A.,
Henson, has been sold and taken private.

Also, if they'll be working a lot in the USA leading up to the
Diamond Dust Balls in October, perhaps work permits/taxes
helped to spur the change in recording venue...

Anyway, a few nights ago in London (via facebook brazil)

Mick Jagger and Andrew Watt, the producer of the Rolling
Stones, were together at the concert of Brazilian singer Vanessa
da Mata last Wednesday (April 30), when she performed at
Islington Assembly Hall, in London. After the show, Jagger waited
in line to talk to the singer in her dressing room. The Brazilian is
on tour in Europe, where she is promoting her album “Vem Doce”,
which was nominated for Best Brazilian Popular Music Album at
the Latin Grammies.

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/21/6c/S3X3qE3i_t.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiY1DFEB4-g

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/8b/54/VD2FWPDr_t.jpg

Maybe an European Fall 2025 tour announcement this week?
Hope so!!

Jeroen

based on the current activity in London, there's a lot of silly
speculation on the iorr forum that this is because the Stones
are trying to rush out an album by December so they can
tour Europe in 2026...

this line of "reasoning" is being led by a reputed "industry
insider" over there who seems to know nothing about
the manufacturing/marketing timelines for a major release
by the Stones, nor about the current state of the live
music market in Europe...

However amidst all his wrong-headed speculation, this
"insider" has confirmed a few facts we reported here over
four months ago, namely that Universal has plans for a
major Stones album release this year, accompanied by
a few special shows to promote it...

In other words, the already-being-manufactured Diamond
Dust and the two long-planned to-be-filmed Diamond Dust Balls
at the Sphere, both coming our way at the end of October

so everything that the Stones have been recording this year is for
a future probably 2026 album, and to keep themselves sharp for
the Balls

                                http://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1b/bc/7ndB9AVV_t.jpg


also, i'm not particularly a howard stern fan, but he did a great
spotify interview with andrew watt back in february, which
someone has now uploaded nearly intact to youtube, so
not sure how long before it gets taken down... andrew is
such an amazing guy. as howard says towards the end of the
interview "thanks, andrew, for the musical education".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKzHyvy9t-s

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on May 6^th, 2025 at 9:15pm:

so not sure how long before it gets taken down...

That is from Howard's Youtube channel which is from the SiriusXM app as well.
All his interviews are viewed via these sources.
Have no fear, it will be up forever. His Jagger and Richards interviews are there as well.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENdrrK5sWM-RV5nTLwBNXw

Paranoid Android wrote on May 7^th, 2025 at 9:32am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on May 6th, 2025 at 9:15pm: so not sure how long before it gets taken down... That is from Howard's Youtube channel which is from the SiriusXM app as well. All his interviews are viewed via these sources. Have no fear, it will be up forever. His Jagger and Richards interviews are there as well. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENdrrK5sWM-RV5nTLwBNXw

thanks, sirius not spotify, i'll correct it. but my point was
that its not on howard's youtube channel, its been uploaded
to youtube by somebody else

corrected info


Rev 20 Redlights wrote on May 6^th, 2025 at 9:15pm:

based on the current activity in London, there's a lot of silly speculation on the iorr forum that this is because the Stones are trying to rush out an album by December so they can tour Europe in 2026... this line of "reasoning" is being led by a reputed "industry insider" over there who seems to know nothing about the manufacturing/marketing timelines for a major release by the Stones, nor about the current state of the live music market in Europe... However amidst all his wrong-headed speculation, this "insider" has confirmed a few facts we reported here over four months ago, namely that Universal has plans for a major Stones album release this year, accompanied by a few special shows to promote it... In other words, the already-being-manufactured Diamond Dust and the two long-planned to-be-filmed Diamond Dust Balls at the Sphere, both coming our way at the end of October so everything that the Stones have been recording this year is for a future probably 2026 album, and to keep themselves sharp for the Balls                                 http://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1b/bc/7ndB9AVV_t.jpg also, i'm not particularly a howard stern fan, but he did a great Sirius interview with andrew watt back in february, which someone has now uploaded nearly intact to youtube, so not sure how long before it gets taken down from youtube  (it will still be on Sirius). Andrew is such an amazing guy. As howard says towards the end of the interview "thanks, andrew, for the musical education". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKzHyvy9t-s

Thanks Rev.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 12^th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Apr 10th, 2025 at 3:42pm: 3) my best guess is that they were at the Hit Factory doing their first recording session for what they plan to be their NEXT album, after Diamond Dust gossip columnist Revvy Redlights: "Still unremarked upon is the fact that this was a New York recording session. Meaning that it is a near-certainty that Andrew Watt was NOT at the control board and that the producer(s) was some combo of Jagger/Richards/Was/Jordan. So is this an entirely new project, or is it the completion of a standard 12-track Was-era album, or is it the completion of the huge aborted Blacksmiths project that our friend Leonid is always hyping? Honestly I have no clue, but I do expect another New York session fairly soon, say, before another month..."

Blacksmiths is something I’ve always been hyping? Complete nonsense. Blacksmiths was something you made up that turned out to be complete BS. Just like Diamond Dust Balls is complete BS.

:forfucksake

Leonid

1) obviously i was joking about your "affection" for my
Blacksmiths write-up. I'm just glad you remembered it.

2) so perhaps its time i repeat my long-standing disclaimer, that
my thing is to be plausible and entertaining in what i write. The fact
that i not infrequently, against all odds, get shit correct is merely
the cherry on top. I mean, look at the title of this thread, written
last December, and apparently about to be completely fulfilled

3) in other words, I do what gossip columnists and intelligence
analysts do, infer what's possible/probable given a limited
amount of solid information. Plus have fun doing so.

4) also, with regard to Blacksmiths, the idea was for a roots-
heavy, covers-heavy project. Very much like the two things we
know about that have emerged so far from the "Keith sessions" in
NYC, Zydeco Sont Pas Sale and Waiting for My Man. Its not
implausible to imagine that there's more such work stockpiled.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on May 7^th, 2025 at 9:51am:

but my point was that its not on howard's youtube channel, its been uploaded to youtube by somebody else

Ahhh, got it...didnt realize it was a secondary upload.

For everyone else,
For all his interviews they are accessible here...lots of great stuff to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/@howardstern/videos

according to georgelicks this is Mick recording a vocal
recently at Metropolis Studios in London...

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3708390556135208&id=100008928994113&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=9HR6MG2yfOEXbNtg#

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on May 9^th, 2025 at 10:18am:

according to georgelicks this is Mick recording a vocal recently at Metropolis Studios in London... https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3708390556135208&id=100008928994113&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=9HR6MG2yfOEXbNtg#

what is it?

Ride wit me bee bay!!

Mick's bee bopping and scatting!

Has an Exile sound  ;D

I always thought that steady bang-bang was Charlie. :booze

summary of recent rumors

apr 30 -- mick and andrew with vanessa da mata in london -- confirmed

may 06 -- "Stones recording now at a London studio. Mick and Andrew arrived
first. Keith last Wednesday and Ronnie, Steve expected soon" -- unconfirmed

may 06 -- "Recording expected to be finished in May. Familiar studio reserved
through June" -- unconfirmed, 2 straight months? highly unlikely. and what
studio in London is "familiar" as of 2025? NOT Metropolis, which they have only
used for overdubs, in one of the small rooms

may 06 -- "Mixing in June, album release late Nov or early Dec" -- unconfirmed,
ridiculous, June way too late for this christmas

may 09 -- Mick doing a vocal overdub at Metropolis in one of
the small rooms -- confirmed

may 10 -- "Jagger was playing acoustic guitar singing some words and many
LaLaLa’s-song ideas! Maybe 30 second simple tune clips for further work.
Short rudimentary undeveloped tunes only on acoustic with undeveloped vocals.
Left plenty of room for Keith and Jagger to finish in person." unconfirmed,
but at least somewhat realistic in terms of what could have been going
on at Metropolis. The whole band there? no way

so my conclusion remains: this recent activity has nothing to do with
the album we're getting in October, except that leaking this Metropolis
stuff is serving as a kind of appetizer for what's actually on the menu.



                               http://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1b/bc/7ndB9AVV_t.jpg

Probably already discussed, so apologies if so...

Over the weekend, I watched the documentary / feature Rough Diamonds.
IT wasn't too bad, but a bit haphazzard. One part I noted, after the HD premiere / announcment, Jagger mentions that in December 2022,
they recorded 23 songs for the album...and "finished" them in January, whatever "finished" means in this case.

With HD having 12 songs, that means there's 11 songs that are FFSO.
Perhaps not good enough for the initial release...we have not had any extra songs released...
or perhaps simply held back for the next album....

I have no inside info, so this is just an observation...thoughts??

The latest from the "Manager and Publisher" over there...

"I have been working on "IORR v2" since Jan. 1, 2024...  The
next step of this transition will be to find a new board of directors,
a number of persons who do have time and interest in moderating
and taking care of the IORR policy for the time to come. The IORR
board would be approx five - 5 - people...  The first task of the
new board would be to choose a new forum... I would like to have
the new forum up and running during the next 30-60 days, then
"old iorr" will be "frozen" shortly after..."

There's a lot I could say, but I don't want to get myself into any
more trouble...

...so I'll confine myself for now to one simple comment, that I find
it impossible to believe that it is mere coincidence that the forum
over there will be undergoing dramatic, and very possibly traumatic,
change at the very moment the Stones are launching their post-
touring era with the Steve Riley single.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA6QmcTcuzY

Rev
You don’t post at Shidoobee anymore do you?

Interesting post regarding Darryl:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJWfJnWsRzQ/?img_index=2

Steel Wheels wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 7:54pm:

Interesting post regarding Darryl: https://www.instagram.com/p/DJWfJnWsRzQ/?img_index=2

Steel Wheels, thanks, first confirmation we've had of the whole
band being in London, recording and/or rehearsing*. I still don't
think that the whole-band activity could possibly be at Metropolis,
because of how un-private it is there, but wherever they are/were,
this is imo super news

*Does this mean that I think there is now a decent chance that the first warm-up gig(s) for
Vegas will be in London? Yes.

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/fa/cf/YWH54zgi_t.jpg



Goo wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 9:27am:

Rev You don’t post at Shidoobee anymore do you?

Goo, no, its been quite some time, just curious why do you ask ?