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Message started by StickyStones on Jul 24th, 2024 at 11:35pm

Title: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by StickyStones on Jul 24th, 2024 at 11:35pm
Off the top of my head:

Citadel - Keith
Sympathy for the Devil - Keith
Street Fightin' Man - Keith
Jumpin' Jack Flash - Keith
Stray Cat Blues - Keith
Live With Me - Keith
Happy - Keith
Soul Survivor - Keith
Casino Boogie - Keith
Tumblin' Dice - Mick Taylor
Torn and Frayed - Mick Taylor
Shine A Light - Mick Taylor
100 Years Ago - Keith
Dancin' With Mr. D - Mick Taylor
Silver Train - Keith
Heartbreaker - Keith
Fingerprint File - Mick Taylor
Emotional Rescue - Ronnie Wood

What are others?

Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by ronnie-woody on Jul 25th, 2024 at 12:27am
Sad, Sad, Sad, Hold on to Your Hat, Continental Drift, Break the Spell - Ronnie

That's 1/3 of the entire Steel Wheels album, seems like Bill already wasn't motivated anymore to stay with them then^^

Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by ronnie-woody on Jul 25th, 2024 at 12:44am
Dirty Work is even more interesting but not at all surprising considering the circumstances back then...

One Hit: Bill sharing bass with John Regan
Fight: Ronnie
Hold Back: Ivan Neville
Too Rude: Ronnie (and on drums too)
Winning Ugly: John Regan
Back to Zero: Ronnie
Sleep Tonight: Keith (Ronnie on drums again...btw aren't there also a few songs with Mick on drums?)

Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by Holden on Jul 25th, 2024 at 8:23pm
I think Mick played drums on back of my hand.

Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by StickyStones on Jul 26th, 2024 at 5:08pm

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 25th, 2024 at 12:27am:
Sad, Sad, Sad, Hold on to Your Hat, Continental Drift, Break the Spell - Ronnie

That's 1/3 of the entire Steel Wheels album, seems like Bill already wasn't motivated anymore to stay with them then^^


Bill wanted to quit as early as 1974, but Mick Taylor pre-empted him. Bill said he didn't want to be the guy responsible for breaking up the Stones by them losing their bassist and lead guitarist in the same year.

Bill Wyman: ''Around the time Mick Taylor quit I just wanted to leave. I couldn't see myself standing it any longer. But I didn't want to be the person who caused the breakup of the band.''

So this is a guy who gradually sort of grew less and less interested in being there over a 17 year period. He told the band he wanted the band he was done in January 1991, but Mick, and Keith especially, continually tried to convince him to stay for another 2 years.

He left in 91, it just wasn't made public til '93, and they didn't start auditioning replacements til 93 either. They gave him two years to reconsider and he never did.

''At the end of the Urban Jungle tour, Bill said he was leaving the band. I got really pissed with him. I threatened to do everything in the world to him, including death at dawn - as I always say, Nobody leaves this band except in a coffin. But he made up his mind: he'd really started to hate flying, he developed a real fear of flying. Now, this was pretty strange after 25 years, but it happens to people. He was having to drive to every gig, which was knackering him, and sometimes people get to the end of their tether.'' - Keith


Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by StickyStones on Jul 26th, 2024 at 5:13pm

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 25th, 2024 at 12:44am:
Dirty Work is even more interesting but not at all surprising considering the circumstances back then...

One Hit: Bill sharing bass with John Regan
Fight: Ronnie
Hold Back: Ivan Neville
Too Rude: Ronnie (and on drums too)
Winning Ugly: John Regan
Back to Zero: Ronnie
Sleep Tonight: Keith (Ronnie on drums again...btw aren't there also a few songs with Mick on drums?)


It's this kinda thing that shows he that ultimately, Mick and Keith are, and really always were the heart and soul of the band.

They worked as a four piece essentially from late 68- June 1969 when Brian was basically slowly firing himself from the band (by no longer caring / showing up reliably), and that was fine and you had M&K churn out Let it Bleed out of it.

Then Mick Taylor quit, and Ronnie filled in the guitar gap. Then Bill quit, and so on.

I mean for as much as people lionize Mick Taylor for instance, Hand of Fate is basically a Stones song with Mick Taylor except the guitarist isn't him - but it may as well be. You can replicate Mick Taylor, you can get a really skilled blues driven guitarist, especially in 1975, there were a lot of those guys out there.

But you can't replicate Mick's singing, songwriting, lyrics or personality or dance moves lol. You can't replicate Keith's innate sense of riffs and his own really underrated sense of melody and songwriting. That you can't replicate.

All these guys - Bill, Brian, Mick Taylor, Charlie, and Stu - were important. Each brought with them a unique something to the band - Brian's darkness, attitude, sense of melody, sense of experimentation, showmanship and fashion sense; Bill's dry humor and good bass lines and humble personality; Taylor's fluid guitar lines and humble demeanor; Charlie being Charlie, Stu being Stu.

But ultimately the Stones rolled on without them...

But you can't replace Mick's singing, or his immense talents as a frontman, or Keith's very distinctive riff and guitar style, because then it'd be a different band. Remove either, and it's no longer the Stones.

Title: Re: Songs where Billy Wyman doesn't play bass?
Post by StickyStones on Aug 1st, 2024 at 1:32pm
Crazy Mama is another one where Keith is on bass instead of Bill

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