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Message started by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 2:55am

Title: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 2:55am
Hope its true:




Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:41am
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rolling-stones-continue-tour-within-24839344

We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie

Exclusive: Rolling Stones to continue US tour within
weeks and 'do Charlie Watts proud'


Charlie Watts will be remembered by his former bandmates as they are set to go
ahead with their US tour in the drummer's memory



By Tom Bryant Head of Showbiz

   
The remaining Rolling Stones have paid heartfelt tribute to Charlie Watts as they
vowed to go ahead with their US tour in the drummer’s memory.

The band are due on stage in St Louis, in Missouri, on September 26, with further
shows planned until November.

Despite their heartache, a source said: “It goes without saying” that the band would
play the No Filter tour, which was derailed last year by Covid.

He said: “They will want to honour him and celebrate his amazing musical legacy.
They will want to do Charlie proud.”

And Small Faces drummer Kenney Jones told the Mirror it was the right decision
adding: “They have got to continue. Charlie would have wanted that."

Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:49am
The Sun:

ROLLING ON The Rolling Stones WILL go ahead with their
US tour next month and pay tribute to late Charlie Watts on stage


  by Simon Boyle

THE Rolling Stones plan to pay an emotional tribute to late drummer Charlie Watts
on next month’s tour.

The group have been devastated by 80-year-old Charlie’s death on Tuesday but
insist he would have wanted them to continue their US tour.

Mick Jagger, 78, Keith Richards, 77, and Ronnie Wood, 74, are due to resume their
No Filter Tour in St Louis, Missouri, on September 26.

A music insider said: “The band want to make the show a celebration of his life.

"He was like a brother to them but they know he would have hated the thought
of them cancelling shows.

“Charlie had given them his blessing to tour without him following his operation,
so they will honour his wishes.”

Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by Egon on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:58am
I sure hope it's NOT true

Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by Paranoid Android on Aug 26th, 2021 at 11:02am

Egon wrote on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:58am:
I sure hope it's NOT true


AGREED

Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by The Wick on Aug 26th, 2021 at 11:26am
The article is citing that credible source, "a source." They very well may still tour and I suppose the Mirror could have "a source," but it sounds like a load of shite.

Title: Re: Daily Mirror: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie"
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:16pm
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-tour-planned-charlie-watts-death/

The show must go on for the Rolling Stones, who will embark on their U.S. tour next
month as planned in the wake of drummer Charlie Watts' death. "The Rolling Stones’
tour dates are moving ahead as planned," promoter Concerts West confirmed in a statement.


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Paranoid Android on Aug 26th, 2021 at 4:26pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-tour-planned-charlie-watts-death/

The show must go on for the Rolling Stones, who will embark on their U.S. tour next
month as planned in the wake of drummer Charlie Watts' death. "The Rolling Stones’
tour dates are moving ahead as planned," promoter Concerts West confirmed in a statement.



I have never trusted those Ultimate Classic Rock articles.
They are always just filled with rehashed content. The article even has New Orleans Jazz fest still listed. RS.com also says nothing at this time, though admittedly, its not the best/most up-to-date source of information...

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Holden on Aug 26th, 2021 at 5:09pm
I'd be surprised if they cancel.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 5:37pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Aug 26th, 2021 at 4:26pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 26th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-tour-planned-charlie-watts-death/

"The Rolling Stones’ tour dates are moving ahead as planned,"
promoter Concerts West confirmed in a statement.



I have never trusted those Ultimate Classic Rock articles.


NME and Rolling Stone mag have the same story


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Gazza on Aug 26th, 2021 at 7:45pm
I think the tour will go ahead, mostly for insurance / contractual reasons.  They'd already confirmed Charlie wouldnt be playing on it anyway.

Whether it should go ahead or whether the band will really want to go ahead are two different things, I guess. 

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Bitch on Aug 26th, 2021 at 7:56pm
It wont be great without Charlie, it might be good, just ok, or it could sound all wrong.  I'll be whispering to my friends "that song didn't sound good without Charlie, did that sound as good to you? " IT JUST CAN'T BE AS GOOD ANYMORE! But I'll still go for MICK and KEEF and RONNIE because I love those guys.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Aug 26th, 2021 at 9:14pm
Does anyone really know what they'll be doing yet. Or indeedr what trousers they'll be wearing? Who said that? With his trousers around his ankles, no doubt.
It's doubfulf the band have a clue yet themselves. But they have a habit of pulling great crackers out of their barrels
The photo of Charlie and Keith cradling 'the babies'/the twins is lovely.
It's Nappy Days. It's Spock being rejuvenated. it's Charlie hanging out lingerie in a garden in the '60s

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 26th, 2021 at 11:26pm
speculation, yes, but there's mounting circumstantial evidence:

1) they knew all along charlie's illness was terminal, though of course they didnt
know when. the cover stories assured charlie his privacy.

2) rehearsals have been ongoing since approx Aug 20, and possibly before that
(darryl canceled an appearance for aug 15 "due to a rolling stones obligation".
there was also a report that steve jordan signed on sometime in july). musical
director chuck leavell can drill the band if/when both mick and keith need to
be elsewhere

3) private jet travel to and from the UK, discretely, as necessary, using all
the quarantine-free exemptions available to the rich (private doctor, daily
testing, private check-in/customs etc.). the boston-area location cuts down
on flight time and the jet has comfortable bedrooms and full communications

4) robert kraft undoubtedly providing logistical assistance

boston globe today: "we’re told that singer Mick Jagger and guitarists Keith
Richards and Ron Wood had been holed up in Boston for more than 10 days"

in (and out of) boston, very probably. holed up, no.



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Egon on Aug 27th, 2021 at 4:45am
someone on facebook (so very important) told me that I'm not friends with the stones so have no right to give my opinion on whether the tour should go ahead.

The Stones are best friends he said, so only the should decide if they should continue touring.

All the time I was thinking that mick & Keith would read my FB posts and take notes, but this person set me straight.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 27th, 2021 at 9:41am

Egon wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 4:45am:
someone on facebook (so very important) told me that I'm not friends with the stones so have no right to give my opinion on whether the tour should go ahead.

The Stones are best friends he said, so only the should decide if they should continue touring.

All the time I was thinking that mick & Keith would read my FB posts and take notes, but this person set me straight.


fuck it...

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Paranoid Android on Aug 27th, 2021 at 10:24am
Why are you all wasting your time trying to figure it all out?!?

Those maniacs at IORR are working on it as they all have a degree in Contact Law and know the inside operations of a tour of this type and know what each member of the Stones thinks about the roadmap ahead.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Gazza on Aug 27th, 2021 at 10:33am

Egon wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 4:45am:
someone on facebook (so very important) told me that I'm not friends with the stones so have no right to give my opinion on whether the tour should go ahead.

The Stones are best friends he said, so only the should decide if they should continue touring.

All the time I was thinking that mick & Keith would read my FB posts and take notes, but this person set me straight.


Some other people on a prominent facebook group are outraged that if the Stones knew that Charlie was dying that they then didnt disclose this when they sold tickets/announced that he wasnt going on the tour.

As if that made any difference.


The sense of entitlement of some people beggars belief. Fuck the poor guy's right to privacy or that of his family, eh?

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by BILL PERKS on Aug 27th, 2021 at 6:04pm
So torn over this. But what are you gonna do, sit around & just miss him? Get out & do what you love. Till you can't.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Stoned In Staten Island on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:10am
My prediction: they do this tour, acknowledge the 60th with 5-10 shows throughout the year in the U.S., Europe and South America, then it's over. Maybe a new album as well. We're in the endgame now, there's no denying that.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:34am

The French magazine Télérama has a 1998 quote from Charlie
(translated by iorr's dcba)


"the Rolling Stones are Mick and Keith. As long as they're together, the Stones will exist"


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 28th, 2021 at 8:39am

BILL PERKS wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
So torn over this. But what are you gonna do, sit around & just miss him? Get out & do what you love. Till you can't.



Good post. Thanks PERKS.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 28th, 2021 at 9:24am
The Stones roll on. They must. They will.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Keefj200 on Aug 28th, 2021 at 10:17am
I hope this is true as well. Even without Charlie, it would be great see the remaining Rolling Stones in the UK one more time.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:08pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:34am:
The French magazine Télérama has a 1998 quote from Charlie
(translated by iorr's dcba)


"the Rolling Stones are Mick and Keith. As long as they're together, the Stones will exist"


here's the original french, if you want to check the translation...

“Les Rolling Stones, c’est Mick et Keith. Tant qu’ils seront ensemble, les Stones existeront”

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:09pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:34am:
The French magazine Télérama has a 1998 quote from Charlie
(translated by iorr's dcba)


"the Rolling Stones are Mick and Keith. As long as they're together,
the Stones will exist"



The 60th Anniversaries
(some dates approx and/or disputed)

Oct 17, 2021
the day mick and keith got joined at the hip musically on the train

(the date i personally celebrate)

Nov 15, 2021
the day mick and keith recorded the auctioned "bedroom tape"
(already its the sound of the Stones)

Apr 7, 2022
mick and keith meet brian and charlie
(the planets align)

Jun 15, 2022
mick and keith join brian and stu for weekly rehearsals
(God's ears perk up)

Jul 12, 2022
"the rollin' stones" play at the Marquee
(wrong name, no bill no charlie, but for some reason the concensus date)

Oct 27, 2022
they record their first studio demos
(Jimmy Reed, Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters’ covers)

Dec 14, 2022
bill wyman's first stones gig
(therefore certainly an important day)

Jan 12, 2023
charlie watts's first stones gig
(even more important, gigantically important)

Jan 23, 2023
bill and charlie join the stones as permanent members
(thunder claps, lightning strikes)

Apr 14, 2023
the beatles attend a stones show
(we have ignition, and lift-off)

May 1, 2023
stu gets the boot from the official line-up
(a day that lives in infamy, but it was a smart move)

May 8, 2023
they sign with decca records
(ka-ching)

Jun 7, 2023
their first record is released in the UK
(I gotta make you see, that i belong to you, and you belong to me)

Sep 15, 2023
oldham locks mick and keith in the kitchen
(oldham reportedly says their first composition, Easy Sleazy, "stinks")

Feb 15, 2024
their first chart appearance in the USA "not fade away"
(this is the anniversary officially recognized by the RRHOF)



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by gimmekeef on Aug 28th, 2021 at 2:19pm
I personally think they should be announced as....Ladies and gentlemen....Ronnie Wood....Keith Richards...and Mick Jagger..

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Gazza on Aug 28th, 2021 at 5:26pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:09pm:
Oct 17, 2021
the day mick and keith got joined at the hip musically on the train[/b]
(the date i personally celebrate)



How the fuck do people actually know that Mick and Keith met again at Dartford station on 17th October 1961?

Who actually would have written that down at the time?

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:40pm

Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:09pm:
Oct 17, 2021
the day mick and keith got joined at the hip musically on the train[/b]
(the date i personally celebrate)



How the fuck do people actually know that Mick and Keith met again at Dartford station on 17th October 1961?

Who actually would have written that down at the time?


i don't remember the specifics, but some biographer was able to figure out
by mick's school schedule, that it had to be a tuesday, and for some other
reason, it could only have been one of two such tuesdays  (and i think
there is still a dispute as to which one). anyway, Time Is On Our Side gives
it as Oct 17, and that's what it says on the plaque, so that's what i celebrate




the plaque's nice, but personally i would have gone with a sorta colossus-of-rhodes
statue that you could ride up inside and look out at the town through the eyes of
mick and keith. an english statue of LIBERTY, as befits these two freedom fighters




As to the importance of the oct 61 date, the best testimony we have, aside from charlie's quote above,
is of course keith's letter to his aunt patty...


"You know I was keen on Chuck Berry and I thought I was the only fan for miles but
one mornin' on Dartford Stn. (that's so I don't have to write a long word like station)
I was holding one of Chuck's records when a guy I knew at primary school 7-11 yrs
y'know came up to me. He's got every record Chuck Berry ever made. He is called
Mick Jagger and the greatest R&B singer this side of the Atlantic and I don't mean
maybe. I play guitar (electric) Chuck style we got us a bass player and drummer
and rhythm-guitar and we practice 2 or 3 nights a week. SWINGIN'."


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Aug 28th, 2021 at 11:50pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWVh0qILMU

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 29th, 2021 at 6:53am

London Times today:

Why the Rolling Stones should pack it in now

The band — and their fans — won’t get no satisfaction without Charlie Watts

It’s time to fade away



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-the-rolling-stones-should-pack-it-in-now-n3tqp097s


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Paranoid Android on Aug 29th, 2021 at 8:40am
Hologram Charlie?!?

Is that the latest rumor??

Sounds weird and marginally insulting.
Not sure how those hologram Elvis' and Tupaks went over in the past.

MAYBE archival footage on the big screens as the same songs are played live to honor Charlie...or just footage as a medley of his best moments are played live...(a 4 or 5 song medley)...which would also allow for room for a few other songs during the "normal" concert".

This would be great fodder for additional setlist threads, LOL






Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Yap Yap 999 on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:17am
Hologram? no shit. They will do a great tribute to Charlie, no idea how

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 30th, 2021 at 5:04pm

The Wick wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 4:27pm:
Did anyone else find If You Can't Rock Me a strange choice for the tribute song?
Maybe there is something on the inside about the song, but to an outsider, the
refrain is a little odd: "if you can't rock me, somebody will"

I know what you mean, but...

1) the vibe is odd only if you take the chorus as in any way addressed to charlie,
which its not

2) its addressed to every fan who says any version of "no charlie, no stones"

to such fans, i say, your grief is real (as is mine). but don't think we all must
throw ourselves on the funeral pyre. if you want to, okay, you have my blessing,
but i will have no part in trying to kill off the stones. anymore than i did when
mick taylor was frozen out of the band

3) remember, mick and keith have had months to process this (impending,
then actual) loss - when mick was in england visiting charlie, now we know why,
and we can reasonably assume that keith was secretly there too

4) again, everyone is allowed their emotions. Among mine is gratitude for the courage
now being displayed by keith and mick and steve jordan, defying the quit-mob.

long may they reign.



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Gazza on Aug 30th, 2021 at 8:47pm
I guess rehearsals have started, as Sasha Allen (wrongly, in my view - there's a time and a place for appearing glowingly happy about returning to work) has been posting a couple of selfies from the studio.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Bitch on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:04pm
This would be a great time to bring Lisa back, but that ship has sailed. Sasha can't hold a candle to her. She screams the songs, there is no real beauty in her voice. IMO. 

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by mojoman on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:40pm
Remember this like yesterday


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:05pm
Its not the most wild GUESS at this point that, at charlie's request, his funeral
was a private affair held prior to the announcement of his death


(5am addendum: just woke up from a dream, them rehearsing for an outdoor memorial show in england. nice dream)

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by munichhilton on Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:57pm
Why not do one last gig at Hyde Park and let a bunch of butterflies loose. I sorta feel like they should call it over...
New touring band: The Glimmer Twins with Ronnie Wood

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 3rd, 2021 at 7:34pm

i've been looking for this quote. thank you CousinC/iorr...

"If Brian, Bill, Charlie and me had never been on this planet,
Mick and Keith would still have a band that sound
exactly like the Rolling Stones"

                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                 -- Ian Stewart



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 5th, 2021 at 6:38pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:05pm:
(addendum: just woke up from a dream, them rehearsing for an outdoor memorial show
in england. nice dream)


sorry, another dream. these dreams will stop i'm sure once we get some real news

i dreamed darryl and steve were announced as new members of the rolling stones.

sorry again

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Egon on Sep 7th, 2021 at 6:37am

Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:09pm:
Oct 17, 2021
the day mick and keith got joined at the hip musically on the train[/b]
(the date i personally celebrate)



How the fuck do people actually know that Mick and Keith met again at Dartford station on 17th October 1961?

Who actually would have written that down at the time?


CCTV footage

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 7th, 2021 at 7:40am

Egon wrote on Sep 7th, 2021 at 6:37am:

Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 12:09pm:
Oct 17, 2021
the day mick and keith got joined at the hip musically on the train[/b]
(the date i personally celebrate)



How the fuck do people actually know that Mick and Keith met again at Dartford station on 17th October 1961?

Who actually would have written that down at the time?


CCTV footage



Either that or the timestamp of Keefs selfie... :D
(just kidding, we all know Keef is technologically challenged)

I would have just looked at the published train schedule of the day to figure it out from there...

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by CHIEFMOON on Sep 8th, 2021 at 1:46am
Unique batch of thoughts, dreams too...

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 8th, 2021 at 6:43am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 5th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:05pm:
just woke up from a dream, them rehearsing for an outdoor memorial show in england. nice dream


another dream. these dreams will stop i'm sure once we get some real news

i dreamed darryl and steve were announced as new members of the rolling stones.


dream 3: posters, with no words, started to appear on walls around the city



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by CHIEFMOON on Sep 9th, 2021 at 5:05am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 8th, 2021 at 6:43am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 5th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:05pm:
just woke up from a dream, them rehearsing for an outdoor memorial show in england. nice dream


another dream. these dreams will stop i'm sure once we get some real news

i dreamed darryl and steve were announced as new members of the rolling stones.


dream 3: posters, with no words, started to appear on walls around the city





Where oh where did you find this image?????

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Egon on Sep 9th, 2021 at 5:21am
Everybody looks happy in that pic . i don't like it

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 12th, 2021 at 11:58pm

CHIEFMOON wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 5:05am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 8th, 2021 at 6:43am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 5th, 2021 at 6:38pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:05pm:
just woke up from a dream, them rehearsing for an outdoor memorial show in england. nice dream


another dream. these dreams will stop i'm sure once we get some real news

i dreamed darryl and steve were announced as new members of the rolling stones.


dream 3: posters, with no words, started to appear on walls around the city

dream 4: shock drop new single/vid





Where oh where did you find this image?????


i just jigsawed it together, based on the dream

Oh the singer, he looks angry
At being thrown to the lions
And the bass player, he looks nervous
About the girls outside
And the drummer, he's so shattered
Trying to keep on time
And the guitar players look damaged
They've been outcasts all their lives

Me, I'm waiting so patiently
Lying on the floor
I'm just trying to do this jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Voodoo Chile in Wonderland on Sep 13th, 2021 at 11:50am
What a fine and nice double-meaning slogan, for the Stones





Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 13th, 2021 at 12:03pm
Ian is gonna lose it!!

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Voodoo Chile in Wonderland on Sep 13th, 2021 at 12:32pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 11:50am:
What a fine and nice double-meaning slogan, for the Stones



100% Unofficial poster, based on the actual plus the text of this thread, from this headline



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 18th, 2021 at 7:38pm

still dreaming...



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:51pm
final bow foxboro via instagram. i think its appropriate to note that Steve is dead center.
and that mick, ronnie, steve, keith, and darryl are the central 5. there was apparently
no second final bow of the official core group, whoever that might be currently.

its possible, if not probable, that it might be a while until we see our next official
photo of "the rolling stones"


https://i.postimg.cc/jSf3S0ZV/Final-Bow.jpg

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 6:55am

Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 5:26pm:
How the fuck do people actually know that Mick and Keith met again at Dartford station on 17th October 1961?

Who actually would have written that down at the time?



Don't know why, but this post makes me laugh out load, literally...every time I see it

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:57pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:51pm:
i think its appropriate to note that Steve is dead center.




pic via iorr rockman

if you can hold onto that position, steve, you got it made

its everybody's job in the stones to help bridge that gap


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 8:33am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:51pm:
there was apparently
no second final bow of the official core group



WRONG !




Jagger said he’s not ready to say whether they will wrap it up once this tour is done:


“I’ve been asked that question since I was 31. And your answer is the same. I don’t know.
I mean, anything could happen. You know, if things are good next year and everyone’s feeling
good about touring, I’m sure we’ll do shows. I’m just trying to concentrate on this tour now.”



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 8:43am
The Rolling Stones Reflect on Loss of Charlie Watts,
Detail Plans for Upcoming Tour


“Charlie held the band together for so long, musically,” says
Mick Jagger, “because he was the rock the rest of it was built around”


By Andy Greene
September 23, 2021

The Rolling Stones have kept a low public profile since the death of Charlie Watts on
August 24th, but in a series of new interviews with longtime Rolling Stone writer David Fricke,
they talk about the devastating loss, moving forward with drummer Steve Jordan, the song
selection for their upcoming tour, and a possible continuation of the tour next year, which
happens to be their 60th anniversary.

The main topic through all of the interviews was the loss of Watts. “The thing about Charlie was
that he was always there, always played beautifully and was always willing to discuss what to
do about it – how he could make it better,” Mick Jagger said. “He held the band together for so
long, musically, because he was the rock the rest of it was built around … The thing he brought
was this beautiful sense of swing and swerve that most bands wish they could have. We had
some really nice conversations in the last couple of years about how all this happened with the
band. It’s a huge loss to us all. It’s very, very hard.”

Keith Richards felt the same way. “Charlie had an incredible sense of humor,” he said. “And my
joy was I loved to crack him up. If you could hit that spot, he wouldn’t stop, and it was the
funniest thing in the world. He had an incredible sense of humor that he kept to himself unless
you sparked it. And then it could be painful to laugh.”

“A most vital part of being in this band was that Charlie Watts was my bed,” he continued.
“I could lay on there, and I know that not only would I have a good sleep, but I’d wake up
and it’d still be rocking. It was something I’ve had since I was 19. I never doubted it. I never
even thought about it.”

They’ve spent the past few weeks rehearsing with Steve Jordan. The drummer has been in
their orbit since the Eighties, and he was a member of Keith Richards’ band X-Pensive Winos.
“He’s very respectful of Charlie,” Jagger said. “He played with Keith before we started the
rehearsals, and then he did homework, listening to the tunes. When we talk about what Charlie
did on this one, we listen to the original record, and then we listen to the live versions. There’s
certain licks that we want to do, that Charlie did. There’s certain drum licks that one doesn’t think
about, but they’re part of the tune in a way that a bass part or a guitar part is part of the tune.”

Richards said he started working with Jordan back in July. At the time, they hoped it would be
a temporary situation and Watts would return to the group once he recovered from his illness.
“Steve brings with him a lot of knowledge about the Stones,” he said. “He’ll say, ‘No, Charlie
plays like this.’ Steve is so meticulous, so aware of the seat he’s sitting in. Steve said this to
me: Charlie played the drums. He didn’t hit them.”

The Stones generally play 19 songs at any given show, but Jagger said they’ve rehearsed 80 or 90
tunes for the tour. “I’m not saying we just touched on them, jammed on them,” he said. “We
can actually play them. That’s a huge amount. Keith and I were saying, the reality is that we
have to do at least twelve, 13 numbers that most everyone knows…We have a couple of numbers
from the extras in the Tattoo You reissue. We do ‘Living in a Ghost Town,’ which sounds pretty
good. We’ve got tons of numbers from most eras. So we have a big set list. We can certainly
change up the set list. But we still have to do ‘Paint It, Black.'”

According to Ron Wood, the addition of Steve Jordan has given even familiar songs a new feeling.
“‘Street Fighting Man’ has a new energy,” he said. “‘Midnight Rambler’ has a new approach. We
thought, ‘Oh dear, how are we going to do ‘Midnight Rambler’? Because there’s another language
of its own in that song. It takes its own course now, and Steve, if anything, is leading the charge:
‘I’ll tell ya when it’s gonna speed up, I’ll tell ya when its gonna be dynamic.; To see Keith say, ‘Okay,
then, you tell me’ – it was a really different thing. And Mick’s like, ‘Yeah, I’ll take that.'”

“Charlie would have loved it,” Wood added. “There’s an energy that Charlie projected through
his sticks, but Steve projects it physically as well. Whereas Charlie sat dead still, Steve is moving,
and so is the whole drum podium. You can see the satisfaction on Keith’s face, on Mick’s face.”

The tour ends November 20th at the Circuit of the America race track in Austin, Texas, and Jagger
said he’s not ready to say whether they will wrap it up once it’s done. “I’ve been asked that question
since I was 31,” he said. “And your answer is the same. I don’t know. I mean, anything could
happen. You know, if things are good next year and everyone’s feeling good about touring, I’m
sure we’ll do shows. I’m just trying to concentrate on this tour now.”


excerpted from:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-rolling-stones-charlie-watts-upcoming-tour-1230975/?gfYCe

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by nankerphelge on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 9:48am
The final bow of the 3....wow that hurts

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Voodoo Chile in Wonderland on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 11:35am
yes it hursts  Nanky

Charlie is the first member of the Rolling Stones who passed away while being a member; Brian and Stu were out of the band at the time they died...

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 5:19pm
The rolling-stone-mag interviews above were extracted from longer interviews
that have now been published by Variety. Some further excerpts:

Mick: Charlie wasn’t just a straight rock drummer. We played with rock drummers before.
We played with Carlo Little, who used to play with Screaming Lord Sutch’s band. He had
two bass drums – it sounded great. But it wasn’t Charlie. Charlie brought another sensibility,
the jazz touch. And he didn’t play very heavy. Sometimes, if I got him mad enough, he would.
That was the only way I could get him to play really heavy – to get him mad.


Keith: Steve and I have been working together on this since somewhere in July. At the time,
he was just going to be sitting in for Charlie, which was already to Steve like “Wow!” Steve
brings with him a lot of knowledge about the Stones. He’ll say, “No, Charlie plays like this.”
Steve is so meticulous, so aware of the seat he’s sitting in.  Also, Steve and Daryl Jones
working together is another thing. From a musical point of view, it’s incredibly energetic
and wonderfully inspiring. I was like, “I can’t pick this up. I don’t care who it is. I can’t
pick this up without Charlie.” But once Steve and I started to get into it, hey, this is the
way it’s supposed to be.


Ronnie: Steve has respected Charlie’s approach to the drums, the different attitudes he had
for each number. He’s adapted that in his own style, put his own energy and kick into what
was originally there. Charlie would have loved it. There’s an energy that Charlie projected
through his sticks, but Steve projects it physically as well. Whereas Charlie sat dead still,
Steve is moving, and so is the whole drum podium. You can see the satisfaction on Keith’s
face, on Mick’s face.


https://variety.com/2021/music/news/the-rolling-stones-charlie-watts-legacy-no-filter-tour-1235072249/

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by The Wick on Sep 24th, 2021 at 12:32am
Mick offers some of the most interesting musical insights into the band when he wants to. The most interesting question though was this to Ronnie:

"It’s interesting that you mention “Hand of Fate.” Charlie certainly put a stamp on it. But I can see Steve putting some New York soul into it as well."

There are so many but two songs stick out for me that are pure Charlie and no one on earth could play them as perfectly and fluidly as he did: Hand of Fate and Beast of Burden. His drumming is both solidly in the pocket while being a fluid single movement. Listening to Hand of Fate has been emotional recently.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by LadyJane on Sep 24th, 2021 at 5:42am

nankerphelge wrote on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 9:48am:
The final bow of the 3....wow that hurts


Like a punch in the gut. :( :( :(

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Sep 29th, 2021 at 10:01am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 7:38pm:
still dreaming...






thanks irina/247medford


thanks iorr bv

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 1st, 2021 at 1:14pm





Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by lotsajizz on Oct 3rd, 2021 at 1:22pm
Just set up LA for 10/17--I had to....

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 5th, 2021 at 5:18am

Ian Billen wrote on Oct 5th, 2021 at 1:30am:

Oh yeah .. one more thing (about pittsburgh)... I do believe
I saw Mick Jagger size up .. and then unexpectedly kiss Daryl Jones ..
and no .. I'm not kidding.


yeah, its unplanned and it staggers darryl

(at about 5:45 of this vid)


https://www.facebook.com/jeff.anhang/videos/865327794372576

so yeah, even though it won't be announced for a while, darryl (and steve) are IN!

Made Men.


sorry, chuck, youre a great player and important to the stones but 1) piano
players, like non-sicilians, don't get to be made men, and 2) like stu, simply
would be wrong for the image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boiu-tvrDSM

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 5th, 2021 at 4:02pm


thanks stones planet brazil


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 6th, 2021 at 5:06pm

more of the new stones from the pitts pit



victor woods iorr



bjornulf vik iorr

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 10th, 2021 at 12:22pm



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:32pm

rolling on thru nashville




bill fletcher


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:20pm

via voo thank u








Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 16th, 2021 at 10:31am

Rolling on thru L.A.




1) considering his screen time and now consistently light-colored clothing,
Steve is clearly already one of the stars of the show

2) Darryl's presence is more subdued, except for his solo spot, and he still
wears the dark clothing of a sideman, but i notice this time he's getting
a dedicated spotlight following him around almost always







Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 18th, 2021 at 7:03pm


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:25pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Oct 16th, 2021 at 10:31am:

Rolling on thru L.A.




1) considering his screen time and now consistently light-colored clothing,
Steve is clearly already one of the stars of the show

2) Darryl's presence is more subdued, except for his solo spot, and he still
wears the dark clothing of a sideman, but i notice this time he's getting
a dedicated spotlight following him around almost always




I don't want to say Daryl has gained weight. But he looks like he swallowed Bill Wyman.  :wtf1 :retarded :aimama :whatapostronnie

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 25th, 2021 at 1:49am

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 25th, 2021 at 2:03am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 10:25pm:



I don't want to say Daryl has gained weight. But he looks like
he swallowed Bill Wyman.


yeah definitely. i mean, steve has proven you can
be black and be a rolling stone. But can you be fat?
the jury's still out on that...

on the plus size side, it would be inclusive

hmm. maybe if darryl was willing to go trans too.
then nobody could critisize the stones and at
long last they could bring back our favorite tune
and make the whole world be happy...



key west shag ship bound for 12-mile limit
damn that looks fine, i think i'll rim it
from bottom to the top, yeah them doing okay
but them's non-binary, so don't call them gay

rainbow sugar, how come you tik-tok so good
ah rainbow sugar, just like a, just like a, LGBTQ* should



(mick stood on tippy-toes tonight to give darryl a great big wet one)



* pronounced la-gib-tik

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 27th, 2021 at 6:51am

WARNING: ESSAY


(Excerpts from Tattoo Deluxe "Fiji Jim")

Been a hell of week, hell of a month
Been the strangest year
It’s all gone by in the blink of a eye
There ain’t no time for tears

Yeah, one last chance, one last dance
I got ice in my veins

One last chance, one last gasp
We’re gonna drive the crowd insane

We all call on Fiji Jim
Call on Steve and Dwayne
Tell him to get on bass, we're gonna bust this place
or else go down in flames


Yeah, the drums that snap, like a thunder clap
The bass drum mash on the floor
The guitar scream in a feedback dream
Like you never heard before


(hey listen, if he can call ronnie "fiji jim", he can certainly call darryl "dwayne")

obviously i've used this thread to hype the dream
of steve and darryl becoming official members of
The Rolling Stones, getting us back to FIVE of them
and signaling strong intent about the future

on the other hand i understand that such a move
could be seen as simply too soon, as very or
at least somewhat disrespectful to charlie's memory

i don't think we'll know anything for sure until
the group issues their next official photo. Will
it show just 3 guys, or 4 with steve, or 5 with darryl,
or even 6 with chuck ? Or will there be no next
official photo, but only the name and the tongue
and the music ? 

I've put in my vote for FIVE, but my vote of course
counts for nothing. Anything they decide will be fine
by me. I'm extraordinarily happy with Stones2021, with
both the live performances and the fully finished outtakes.
Whatever else they've put out this year that i maybe
haven't completely buzzed off yet, so fucking what

one of my favorite albums ever is "blue and lonesome".
as i understand it, it was created live by the core
group of mick, keith, ronnie, charlie and darryl,
with keyboards and such added later. Just substitute
steve and get back in the studio and make some more
recordings and call yourselves The Rolling Stones,
and then let chuck and matt and the remainder
of The Rolling Stones Orchestra come in later and
tart up the recordings as necessary.

Please.

(and yeah i'm kidding about the "rolling stones
orchestra" as ever being an actual name. but it
is a FACT, and a finely tuned machine, and everybody
is doing a great job. i mean, just listen to the end
of "monkey man" where sasha's background vocals kick
the song up to the next level, or how perfectly
chuck does nicky's tricky piano part at the end
of "street fighting", or the sax duel on "miss you"
or every little thing bernard and matt are contributing to
complete the semi-original sound of each song...)











Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 27th, 2021 at 11:30pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 6:51am:
(Excerpts from Tattoo Deluxe "Fiji Jim")

Been a hell of week, hell of a month
Been the strangest year
It’s all gone by in the blink of a eye
There ain’t no time for tears

Yeah, one last chance, one last dance
I got ice in my veins
One last chance, one last gasp
We’re gonna drive the crowd insane

We all call on Fiji Jim
Call on Steve and Dwayne
Tell him to get on bass, we're gonna bust this place
or else go down in flames

Yeah, the drums that snap, like a thunder clap
The bass drum mash on the floor
The guitar scream in a feedback dream
Like you never heard before



(hey listen, if he can call ronnie "fiji jim", he can certainly call darryl "dwayne")


This topic deserves a few more words...

I mean, how clear does mick need to make it ?!

The original "fiji jim" was about how they needed ronnie to come in and save the
band in the formidable wake of mick taylor

and this new "fiji jim" clearly is about how they needed steve (and darryl)
to save the band in the extremely formidable wake of charlie watts

and for those who think mick and keith werent sentimental enough about the loss
of their great friend, well, mick agrees with you: "there ain't no time for tears" and
"i got ice in my veins".

"one last dance/we're gonna bust this place/or else go down in flames"

yeah so obviously it hasnt been just ronnie and steve and darryl saving the band.
the loss of mick taylor back then and the loss of charlie this year served to
re-light the flames within mick and keith. doubters were everywhere and needed
to be put in their place

The bottom line: when mick name-checks steve and darryl in the same
context that he once welcomed new band member ronnie wood, how can i be
anything but encouraged ?



the dream is still alive



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 30th, 2021 at 1:27pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 6:51am:
i don't think we'll know anything for sure until
the group issues their next official photo. Will
it show just 3 guys, or 4 with steve, or 5 with darryl,
or even 6 with chuck ? Or will there be no next
official photo, but only the name and the tongue
and the music ? 


if you didnt live through it, you may not know this timeline:

Dec 12 1974 announcement mick taylor leaving the band

Apr 14 1975 announcement ronnie wood will "accompany" the stones on tour

Dec 19 1975 no announcement, but reportedly the date ronnie contractually became a stone

Apr 15 1976 "black and blue" released with ron wood on cover.
                    when mick is asked about it, he replies,
                    "Yeah, he's got his badge, and his membership card..."
                    A year and a half after mick taylor departed






Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Gazza on Oct 30th, 2021 at 3:24pm
Dec 19 1975 was the date that Rod announced that the Faces had broken up as I recall.

So, whilst Woody was 'free' to join the Stones after that, I don't think it was confirmed publicly until 'Black and Blue' came out.  On the '75 tour he wasn't a Stone (just a guest like Ollie Brown and Billy Preston), but on the '76 tour he was.

I can't imagine any future 'official' photos being anything other than Mick, Keith and Ronnie.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 30th, 2021 at 4:01pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 30th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

I can't imagine any future 'official' photos being anything other than Mick, Keith and Ronnie.



i think its very significant that theres been no official photo of just mick, keith, and ronnie
used in connection with any of the marketing for this tour.  (also significant: they no longer
put up charlie's photo at the end of the show. just the tongue and "see you soon")

so FWIW i can't imagine any future official photo of the Stones (post this tour) that does
not include Steve. You're not the Stones without a kick-ass drummer, just a remnant like
the Who.

But Keith and Ron both play bass, and Don Was is in the studio with them, so Darryl
(like Bill) is not as essential to their identity as Steve. but Darryl is playing a lot more
stonesy on this tour. and i do like the 5-man look much better than 4.



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Oct 31st, 2021 at 9:58pm

tampa: iorr-org's great photogs join campaign for darryl-steve,
saying that a 5-member group would be much better for pics




Jim Miller


Jon Walgren


Peter Washkevich


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Voodoo Chile in Wonderland on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:50am
A tribute to Charlie Watts during the R&R Hall of Fame Induction ceremony yesteday, with thanks to Cleik and Rogerriffin from our message board, Rocks Off in Spanish

https://twitter.com/BMcgeary/status/1454646738430668800?s=20

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 5th, 2021 at 6:51am

The latest from the SIDS activism front

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome ???

No, of course not...

the Society for the Inclusion of Darryl and Steve





Painting entitled "Brown Sugar" by SIDS activist Sjia* (photo courtesy Dallas African American Museum)





*Some Jackass In Australia



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 7th, 2021 at 5:57pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Oct 30th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Gazza wrote on Oct 30th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

I can't imagine any future 'official' photos being anything other than Mick, Keith and Ronnie.



i think its very significant that theres been no official photo of just mick, keith, and ronnie
used in connection with any of the marketing for this tour. 


so FWIW i can't imagine any future official photo of the Stones (post this tour) that does
not include Steve.


well, its not "post this tour" yet, but the content of the semi-official band photos have
definitely shifted in the direction Gazza indicated.  To be specific, Steve has mostly
disappeared from them

glaringly so in the media releases for Allegiant Stadium, whose people were working
closely with stones dot biz

(photos Allegiant Stadium twitter)









driving home the point, Mick has just tweeted this one...

(now steve's the ghost)







Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 8th, 2021 at 12:56am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 7th, 2021 at 5:57pm:
(now steve's the ghost)


fixed it !

there have been great advances in the charlie watts algorithm...







Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 13th, 2021 at 4:01am

A girl can dream, can't she ?




Ronnie                 Mick                 Nandi                 Keith                  Victoria




*** y'all Rock Stars, RavenXX ***


DIRTY LITTLE SECRET: I like skinny women, but I still like Adele better fat

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 13th, 2021 at 6:09am

I feel this should be noted

even though its the Daily Mail

or maybe BECAUSE its the Daily Mail
(i put way more stock in their reports than other fans)

new wording today, along with individual photos of
mick keith ronnie steve and charlie

"New drummer: Also on stage most recent member Steve Jordan"

yeah, i know i'm the only person in the world who thinks that the Mail
calling Steve a "member" of the Stones might mean something...
but anyway, nice pic of him in action






Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 16th, 2021 at 2:15am



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 21st, 2021 at 10:23pm





Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:40am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 29th, 2021 at 10:01am:






1) mick said "miami", good enough for me

2) let's hope, before too long, we have legit reasons to re-boot this thread




Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (Sep26 tour start re-confirmed)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 25th, 2021 at 1:17am

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 24th, 2021 at 6:40am:

let's hope, before too long, we have legit reasons to re-boot this thread



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLyilCktlmo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9duK6i7wU






Title: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (any rumors yet for 2022 ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 29th, 2021 at 10:17am

any rumors yet for 2022 ?

i think the only one so far that seemed to make a bit of sense was
Royal Albert Hall, but that seems to have faded. I checked their
website and July is still open from the 10th onward

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 29th, 2021 at 1:05pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 10:17am:

any rumors yet for 2022 ?

i think the only one so far that seemed to make a bit of sense was
Royal Albert Hall, but that seems to have faded. I checked their
website and July is still open from the 10th onward


A rumor like that sorta reeks of a farewell performance (or a farewell residency). Even at this point, I don't think it will ever be called that.
RAH would be great for the lucky ones to get in...hardly a bad seat in the place, if I recall.

Maybe a Charlie tribute show (at RAH) with special guests, etc filling in throughout the set would be nice....but an overall 2022 plan/tour?  Likely, sure...
I hope it works out for that side of the Atlantic Pond.

I know there were rumblings of a tribute show/shows in Dec...where/when, was never suggested as far as I recall...

Oh Great Gaz-ZAH??? What say you?!?


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Gazza on Nov 29th, 2021 at 1:28pm
RAH for a Stones show or 'residency' is nothing more than a fantasy wish list for some fans.

The place holds 5,500 people. Its a lovely venue and the acoustics are superb. Saw Dylan there about 6 years ago. A sizeable amount of those tickets (maybe 20-25%) are held for members, minimising the tickets that would be available to the public. Imagine the price of a Stones ticket in a venue that size - and then add an extra zero to it if you're hoping for a member to resell you their ticket via a secondary market.

All that plus the fact that the Stones play two shows a week. Why would they spend seven weeks playing the RAH when they can sell the same amount of tickets in one night at Wembley Stadium?

Never going to happen.

I've heard nothing further about a tribute show other than the initial paper talk. Seems a bit too late in the year for it to be announced, put on sale and take place this side of Christmas. If anything, with covid rates rising again, if this does happen, having it in the winter seems a long shot.

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 29th, 2021 at 3:10pm
Yeah an Albert Hall residency never made sense for the reasons y'all stated...

But a special one- or two-night filmed event to cap off a Euro/UK stadium
tour, that still seems like a decent idea to me (especially since the
Hard Rock FL show did not at all play the "special" or "historic" angles)



A SIDE QUESTION FOR ANYONE:

On my screen, the default 11pt font on this site displays as a ridiculously
tiny 8pt. That's why i generally change my posts to 12pt, which displays
as 12pt. The too-tiny font happens no matter what browser i use. is this true
for everybody, or just something about my computer?

also: the dialog box where i type messages displays at an even more
ridiculous 6pt

by way of comparison, the iorr dot org forum displays at true 11pt for me



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 29th, 2021 at 3:49pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 3:10pm:
On my screen, the default 11pt font on this site displays as a ridiculously
tiny 8pt. That's why i generally change my posts to 12pt, which displays
as 12pt. The too-tiny font happens no matter what browser i use. is this true
for everybody, or just something about my computer?


Its the same for me



Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 3:10pm:
also: the dialog box where i type messages displays at an even more
ridiculous 6pt


not sure what you mean by this


Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 3:10pm:
by way of comparison, the iorr dot org forum displays at true 11pt for me


No clue there...I have not been allowed to post there for quite some time

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Nov 29th, 2021 at 4:16pm
My dear Mr. Android

1) hey, I've been banned at iorr 5 times (never broke a rule, he just didnt like my style.
he even changed his software so that no user name containing the syllable "rev" would
register).  but i do read it when i'm following certain topics.

2) the dialog box, at the bottom of the page, where you type your message....

hold on, wait a minute, i think i just discovered something -- this is a test

*testing testing*

ok, there is a solution to the dialog box tiny font, a text size + adjustment
just below the box, just above the smiley selections

but this adjustment does not change the posted-message font, just the when-typing font

3) on the other hand, this font situation has made me much more reliant on
pictures instead of words to tell a story. which it turns out i enjoy. and its
good prep for the metaverse, where literacy is highly suspect

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by andrews27 on Nov 29th, 2021 at 6:13pm
Where can I get the Dallas 2021 silver jacket photo shown starting @3:21 in this documentary, or similar pose?  I already checked IORR for the Dallas show photos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFDA5LFRlo

Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 4th, 2021 at 1:46am

1) "looking forward to the next tour"

2) Look at the photogs Darryl credited:

congrats Jini !






Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 5th, 2021 at 7:29am





I'm not a photographer, but I am a fan, so here's my 2 cents:

Every shot selected by Darryl features interactions with other
band members. And yes of course solo photos can possess
great power and/or charm, but to be frank every individual
shot of mick or keith or ronnie or any of them does not qualify
as great just because its in focus (which i understand is all by
itself not that easy when you have a moving target)

in this thread i used shots by Jini and Hendrik and Bjornulf,
among others, that like Darryl's selections, highlighted group
dynamics. But there were few enough of those shots that i often
needed to resort to freeze-frames from youtube vids (so give me
half a credit for those i guess because they communicate something
about those Stones shows not captured by our still photographers)

yeah, its much harder to get a good photo of an endangered
sonaran jaguar than a cute puppy, but i'd rather have one of
the former than a hundred of the latter. And there's almost
nothing more endangered these days than the kind of
spontaneous moments between musicians that the Stones
still specialize in. I wish our photographers spent more of
their efforts hunting for them. Not that its any of my business


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 9th, 2021 at 6:33pm





Steve:
As a Stones fan, I would say you have to do a 60th-anniversary tour.
But they have to really see how they feel about it knowing that their
mate of 59 years is not going to be with them. It’s not that easy a
decision, in my view. I may be wrong. I can’t put myself in their shoes.
I don’t know how they feel.



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 11th, 2021 at 4:02pm

from one birthday boy to another: "Let's do more shows!"






Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 13th, 2021 at 4:43pm

interesting choice of photo by billboard mag,
currently the three primary sources of energy onstage



Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 11:58am:

Dec 8 billboard mag (subscription required):




The Rolling Stones’ Billboard Boxscore Touring Gross Surpasses
$2.5 Billion


photo billboard mag


Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:14am
https://www.pollstar.com/article/how-the-rolling-stones-no-filter-tour-became-2021s-highest-grossing-tour-and-an-industry-beacon-149350?gfYrrR

Excerpted and edited:

It didn’t seem remotely possible that The Rolling Stones, the World’s Greatest
Rock & Roll Band, could outdo themselves nearly 60 years into their storied
career. But what the Stones achieved in 2021 with the restart of their
“No Filter Tour” stands out as among one of the legendary group’s greatest
accomplishments. Not only was it the highest grossing tour of Pollstar’s
2021 chart year, bringing in $115.5 million and more than 516,000 tickets
over the course of just two months, but, more importantly, it served as a
beacon for the entire industry...

...when Michael Cohl outbid Bill Graham for 1989’s “Steel Wheels Tour,” it was
a historic paradigm shift that displaced the regional tour promoter system for
the single promoter model that has ruled the day ever since. It also included
groundbreaking sponsorship deals and saw revenues in excess of $140 million,
which for then was unheard of.

The Stones’ 1994-1995 “Voodoo Lounge” run hauled $320 million and sold
6.4 million tickets, while their “Bigger Bang Tour” exceeded that benchmark
with $558 million grossed from 2005-2007 and 4.7 million tickets.

The Stones pulled in $870 million in the aughts, $929 million in the teens,
and an estimated $800 million in the '90s – a whopping $2.6 billion
over those decades...

...(Marketing exec) gives a shout out to the Stones’ indispensable manager
Joyce Smyth, who is “absolutely amazing, she makes everything happen.”

What have the Stones' team learned that others in the industry should know for
when they get out there? “You better take it seriously,” he says. “We ain’t done.
This whole thing about the ‘Roaring ’20s’ and all of that, we said a long time ago,
the comeback’s going to be one hell of a bumpy road, and it’s going to continue
being a bumpy road for a while. So all these Pollyannish*** ones who think that,
‘Oh, it’s going to be like it was before,’ that ain’t the case. It’s tough out there.
You’ve got to be smart. If you lose shows, that’s a lot of money.”


And the million- if not billion- dollar question for 2022,
with the band’s incredible 60th year approaching, is
will they or won’t they go back out?

“We can’t talk about it”.

That’s a far better answer than no.


(1) Pollstar's numbers exclude the last two shows, which for some reason they count
as 2022 (2) So the $2.6 billion figure is just US shows from 1989 forward, so we're
for sure way north of $3 billion now overall, and counting... (3) here's the secret
strategy: Book only crowd-friendly NFL cities during an already-confirmed
NFL season, because no politician dares fuck with the NFL, not even Fauci

(4) Is there an equivalent UK/European strategy to employ? Don't ask me, ask Gazza

*** "Its gonna be easy, believe me/We're going back to paradise"
I told y'all at the time that Easy Sleazy was Mick making a particularly
nasty joke at ass-kissing Dave Grohl's expense. Confirmed. Also: despite
requiring fans to show their vax documents, the Foos have so far this year
covid-cancelled shows in California, Minnesota, and Abu Dhabi. They've
got US/UK stadium shows scheduled for May-July 2022.

Addendum/correction: two days ago an unspecified Foo Fighter was
“rushed to hospital from an airport in Chicago”, on the way to Abu Dhabi.
That's why it was cancelled. And its odd, from a Stones fan's perspective,
that its been over 2 days and there is a complete black-out on
further news from the band, and just a few comments and zero
speculation on the Foo fan forum. Jeez, we'd be going nuts...



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 14th, 2021 at 10:35pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:14am:
Addendum/correction: two days ago an unspecified Foo Fighter was
“rushed to hospital from an airport in Chicago”, on the way to Abu Dhabi.
That's why it was cancelled. And its odd, from a Stones fan's perspective,
that its been over 2 days and there is a complete black-out on
further news from the band, and just a few comments and zero
speculation on the Foo fan forum. Jeez, we'd be going nuts...


there's plenty of speculation now that, because of the secrecy, it must
be virology PhD David Grohl. but no real evidence that i'm aware of...

all we know for sure is that its not lead guitarist Chris Shiflett, who is
going ahead with his scheduled solo shows next week...



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:27am

Chuck to Business Insider today:


No one knows how much longer we’ll be playing and going on tour. We’re
obviously toward the end of the journey, but it’s not over yet.


Has Chuck been demoted from his post as "musical director"?

In addition to being the band’s principal keyboardist, the guys have bestowed
upon me the title “musical navigator” which comes from my practice of
documenting most everything we do during rehearsals, from keeping set lists
to setting the pace for songs through hand signals and conducting.

Charlie Watts often relied on my signals, so I grew used to looking across the
stage and catching his eye while we played. During the tour that we just wrapped
up, it was hard looking across the stage and not seeing him anymore.

Probably because Steve doesn't look back at him. Steve is clearly setting the
pace on most tunes now, taking his cues from Keith and Mick (I'm not now nor
have I ever been a Chuck hater. His contributions are clearly vital to the band,
but the fact that the center of gravity onstage has shifted back a bit towards
the drummer is a very good thing)

And: Just when you think the guy can't possibly get any more gauche...


I love giving shout-outs to fans and playing a snippet of tunes from the artists
I work with like The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, The Allman Brothers Band,
David Gilmour and more. Birthdays, anniversaries, other special occasions or
just for fun! From only C$224.


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Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by Rev 20 Redlights on Dec 17th, 2021 at 11:00pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:14am:

here's the secret strategy: Book only crowd-friendly NFL cities during
an already-confirmed NFL season, because no politician dares fuck with
the NFL, not even Fauci




two years ago, my prediction...
i got the year wrong, but other than that...





(P.S. Dave Grohl death hoax spreads on Facebook

Rumors of the musician’s alleged demise gained traction on Thursday
after a ‘R.I.P. Dave Grohl’ Facebook page attracted nearly one million ‘likes’.
Those who read the ‘About’ page were given a believable account of the
American musician’s passing...

Hundreds of fans immediately started writing their messages of condolence
on the Facebook page, expressing their sadness that the talented 52-year-old
musician, singer and songwriter was dead. And as usual, Twittersphere was
frenzied over the death hoax.

On Friday (December 17) the musician's reps officially confirmed that Dave Grohl
is not dead. “He joins the long list of celebrities who have been victimized by this
hoax. He's still alive and well, stop believing what you see on the Internet,” they said.

The news report of a Foo member rushed to the hospital last week has still never
been confirmed or denied. And to be completely honest, I'm not even sure if 
this "facebook death hoax" story is true. It might be that the hoax itself is a
hoax, since i only found the hoax story on one news site...

Such is life these days. Best of luck finding out the truth about anything) 



Title: Re: "We'll Keep Rolling for Our Charlie" (2022 - ?)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:27pm

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 17th, 2021 at 11:00pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:14am:

here's the secret strategy: Book only crowd-friendly NFL cities during
an already-confirmed NFL season, because no politician dares fuck with
the NFL, not even Fauci




two years ago, my prediction...
i got the year wrong, but other than that...





(P.S. Dave Grohl death hoax spreads on Facebook

Rumors of the musician’s alleged demise gained traction on Thursday
after a ‘R.I.P. Dave Grohl’ Facebook page attracted nearly one million ‘likes’.
Those who read the ‘About’ page were given a believable account of the
American musician’s passing...

Hundreds of fans immediately started writing their messages of condolence
on the Facebook page, expressing their sadness that the talented 52-year-old
musician, singer and songwriter was dead. And as usual, Twittersphere was
frenzied over the death hoax.

On Friday (December 17) the musician's reps officially confirmed that Dave Grohl
is not dead. “He joins the long list of celebrities who have been victimized by this
hoax. He's still alive and well, stop believing what you see on the Internet,” they said.

The news report of a Foo member rushed to the hospital last week has still never
been confirmed or denied. And to be completely honest, I'm not even sure if 
this "facebook death hoax" story is true. It might be that the hoax itself is a
hoax, since i only found the hoax story on one news site...

Such is life these days. Best of luck finding out the truth about anything) 

First of all Fauci is not a politician. Second not every city was so called NFL friendly. Third, if by HFL Friendly cities, you mean major market cities where they always play. Then yeah, you were spot on. :warhorse :shutthefuckup :nanker

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