Ah-huh ... hasn't happened yet... but like I've said all along ..people... they are planning on making another record. In fact they've been talking about that pretty strongly before Zip Code started as you will see in this article.

End of the year... Stones plan to go into the studio.


http://www.mojo4music.com/21182/keith-richards-new-mojo-cover-star/

The headline says 'album'

Keith's quote says 'recording' . No mention of the word 'album' at all.

Could be another two songs again pumped out in four days like last time for all we know.

Said it when this was mentioned and debated about 3-4 months ago that in a year's time we'll still be waiting on this 'album'.

So he's making some vague speculation about 'recording' in five months time?

I reckon my prediction for no new Stones album by spring 2016 is pretty safe.  By that timescale he's talking about I would doubt it'd be available by this time next year either

Would love to be wrong though!!! 

They should do this. Regardless of how well they're playing, the nostalgia trip is getting very stale IMO. Time for a shake up

This does not sound correct as there was a South American tour being planned to start in November....so...either the album plans were :

-scrapped months ago
-scrapped...unscrapped...(repeat)
-never decided and Keith is just talking out of his amp again
-MOJO went into super fast mode to get this down and out and there will be a new album
or
-The album is already done with production to be completed at the years end

Guess it depends when this interview was done. Presumably within the last month or six weeks which would be the norm for these publications.

Seems like Keith has a lot of plans for late 2015. Promoting a solo album, a South American stones tour (which now seems to be off until early '16 ) and now making a new stones record.

They should forget the new album & just tour Europe.

Splendid idea Egon!

Gazza wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34am:

The headline says 'album' Keith's quote says 'recording' . No mention of the word 'album' at all. Could be another two songs again pumped out in four days like last time for all we know. Said it when this was mentioned and debated about 3-4 months ago that in a year's time we'll still be waiting on this 'album'. So he's making some vague speculation about 'recording' in five months time? I reckon my prediction for no new Stones album by spring 2016 is pretty safe.  By that timescale he's talking about I would doubt it'd be available by this time next year either Would love to be wrong though!!!  They should do this. Regardless of how well they're playing, the nostalgia trip is getting very stale IMO. Time for a shake up

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Gazzza .. right I agree in the time scale you are saying ... and I also whole heartedly agree that the nostalgia trip has had plenty of run and it's time for fresh things. Guy you were always pretty strongly convinced they would <never> record another album... (and it seems you are still quite skeptical at that notion lol)

I seriously doubt they are going to record a few new songs <again>. The next time they hit the studio together .. it will be to make a record... bank on it.

I don't know why you won't understand that there are semi-plans to record an album. What do you think this article and his comments are all about? I am not saying a studio is booked.. I'm not saying there is a date .. (I dont think there is yet) but the very strong interest is certainly there (which many thought that there was no more interest ... it's not true ...as I've been saying all along...). Now ...grant it.... they SURE AS HELL are / were in no friggin hurry lol .. BUT yes they still had an interest... even a very strong interest in doing another record. Sounds like now there is a general time frame when they are going to get together to do that now at this point.

It's pretty apparent ...they talked about it and all agreed it was certainly getting to be time and discussed when (and they will). 

Ian

Aaaaand...it's on again!

Your turn, Gazza...

Mr. Yeats wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Aaaaand...it's on again! Your turn, Gazza...

Ian you ignorant slut. :waka-jawaka :forfucksake

Various members of the band have 'talked about a new album' pretty much every year since 1997 as I recall. Sometimes even during tours.

In one of those years they actually got around to making one.

Thats why I'm cynical.

I'll take anything about a new album with a pinch of salt until I hear Mick Jagger confirming it. No one else.

Its effectively his band now and has been more and more as the years go by.  Part of the humble pie Keith had to eat in 1989 and again in 2012 to keep the band together as a viable performing unit.

And Mick, more than anyone, is the band member who's responsible for signing off what songs they are going to play every night. Does he really want to spend months working on songs that he'll never sing again after they came out?  None of the 20 or so reworked songs on the Exile and Some Girls reissues (many of whom he'd written fresh lyrics for) got a single airing in concert. Would it be that different a scenario on a new Stones album?

Its not as if they'd be doing a 'tour' behind a new release in the way they used to. We're now in a sort of Never Ending Tour cycle of tour legs of about 15 shows and 2 months and there's no real benefit to them or need for some kind of 'album/tour' concept a la Steel Wheels, Voodoo Lounge etc.

I dont actually buy into the notion that a Stones album wont sell, as some seem to believe. The last record they made sold over two and a half million copies, which is not shabby at all. And it could have been significantly more had they promoted it better.

With no contractual obligation to make a new record, thats another factor that is somewhat overlooked in terms of motivation. However, they could find some concept like U2 did with their last album (even though U2 are a band who still sell lots of records and whose audience actually KNOWS their new songs) and ram it down the throats of their fans and/or ticketbuyers so that they have no excuse for looking at each other like lemmings when the band dares play something from the current millennium. (remember when Prince gave away copies of his new album with every ticket bought? That would be a drop in the ocean in the overall cost of a Stones ticket)

I will be fucking DELIGHTED if the Stones release another album of newly written and recorded songs. I liked the last one even though I havent listened to it in ages.

I just think its going to take a serious about-turn in the way they have functioned as a band in the last few years for them to even take the idea seriously.  After almost two decades of effectively giving up on themselves as a creative force, are they suddenly going to start being interested in doing something artistic in their mid 70s when there's little financial reward in it (by their standards) and when they've been raking in zillions through the much easier nostalgia market for the last couple of decades?

Big changes potentially in store if thats the case. I'm not so sure - but I hope they're up to a challenge.

As for this :
"What do you think this article and his comments are all about? "

The article (which none of us has read) is a promotional interview for Keith's new solo album. Its not about a Stones album per se.

Put yourself in Keith's position - you're doing an interview for your new record and the interviewer asks you about future Stones projects. What do you seriously think he's going to say ? "We're happy playing warhorses every nigh, making shitloads of money but being creatively bankrupt? "

Gazza wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Put yourself in Keith's position - you're doing an interview for your new record and the interviewer asks you about future Stones projects. What do you seriously think he's going to say ? "We're happy playing warhorses every nigh, making shitloads of money but being creatively bankrupt?

TRUTH!

I just wish they would make a new calender...this 81 calender doesn't even match up with the proper day anymore...

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:43pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:20pm: Put yourself in Keith's position - you're doing an interview for your new record and the interviewer asks you about future Stones projects. What do you seriously think he's going to say ? "We're happy playing warhorses every nigh, making shitloads of money but being creatively bankrupt? TRUTH!

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Well ... why not say ..."I've got a solo record to get on with after this tour and then who knows.. I'd like to "

Instead he says "end of the year" and in that Mick definately wants to go into the studio... so much so he had to initially jokingly ask /think  "I thought this was a meeting about a tour ..not studio work"? lol

Ian

All I want is a new header pic.

Ok everyone then I tell ya what. There is no strong talk between them about recording an album or going in the studio. In fact... there was never any talk of it at all.... they never mention it.  The reality is they never discuss it. ..There was never any fairly certain plan to do such at the end of the year. They are never are going to go into the studio again. In fact they hate recording albums. They hate the very thought of it and totally dismiss the idea all together.

Mick never talked about it with the rest of the band as Keith said he did.... Keith only said 'end of the year' just for the hell of it.... and the reason Mojo mentions there is a new Stones album on plans both in the title and in the introduction is just to keep some people satisfied for the moment and for the sake of pumping some of us up.

Anything you hear or read about them actually saying they want to record another album or in that they definately talked about it between each-other with a general time indication after Keith does his solo thing is complete horse shit.

The truth is there is absolutely no interest from any of them in recording another album what-so-ever .. there never was.. and there is never going to be. 


Hows that? Make sense? Sound good..?

Sounds like
Ultimatums IAN.                                                  Life is A Big Bowl of Blueberries .......

The reality is folks they could go into the studio and pull a song as great as Honky Tonk etc out of their asses and no one would care. Music has changed and rock is no longer the staple of the industry. Some like Dylan and Young and Springsteen can still muster the energy and juices to put out new material. The Stones don't care and continue to push the tour envelope charging more money for the same package of warhorses. A little change up like a local choir is about as creative as it gets now. We were excited as hell about ABB but lets be honest? Who has played it in the last year? We got a great tour with playing beyond our hopes. The clock is ticking and time waits for no one.

I think it's an actual possibility. I suspect Mick Jagger wants to give it a shot (one more...). It's his best hope of doing any work that would be taken seriously, and the Stones do have a following in the streaming world. I don't know how the timing would work though, considering the South American dates. They aren't going to record an album over the holidays. I suppose they could do it like they used to, in more than one shift. I would also guess they would do it in New York.

munichhilton wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

I just wish they would make a new calender...this 81 calender doesn't even match up with the proper day anymore...

http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1981&country=1

its the same year!!

Big Ian B...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_LGoXOPDt8

I don't hold that much hope, although there is a glimmer (no pun intended). My favorite thing about all this is Ian's classic signature of "from Ian" in the title of the thread.

Ian called the Keef album 4 years ago and he was heckled. Heed him...

mojoman wrote on Jul 24^th, 2015 at 12:12am:

munichhilton wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 7:44pm: I just wish they would make a new calender...this 81 calender doesn't even match up with the proper day anymore... http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1981&country=1 its the same year!!

That's perfect!
Thanks

it  only took Keith two decades to make his third solo record!!!! he talked about it for how long?

I heard the new album is going to be all Taylor Swift covers

They're doing an EDM album of Taylor Swift covers…

An Even Bigger Bang!

still not trending.

Some Guy wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

still not trending.

FUCK YOU SOME GUY!!

WE ARE TRENDY!!!

:keithpunky:booze :booze :booze :keithpunky

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:55pm: still not trending. FUCK YOU SOME GUY!! WE ARE TRENDY!!! :keithpunky:booze :booze :booze :keithpunky

News travels slow in Atlanta.  :interestingstuffronnie

It should be easy for them to squeeze out one more if they put their minds to it. I'm sure there are lots of unfinished material that they can finish up and package. But maybe MICK is worried about quality and not just do it to do it. He does have some pride and a big ego. If it is not going to be a critically acclaimed success maybe he would rather not take chances with people saying the new album is shit, like so many did with ABB even though it had some great songs on it.

Lets just sit back and enjoy Keith's current offering. Doubt he has anything new in the can now to bring to the table. Wouldn't be surprised if Mick goes solo again either.

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:55pm: still not trending. FUCK YOU SOME GUY!! WE ARE TRENDY!!! :keithpunky:booze :booze :booze :keithpunky

We made HuffPo today- we're going viral!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rolling-stones-trivia_55afe729e4b08f57d5d35c03?

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Ok everyone then I tell ya what. There is no strong talk between them about recording an album or going in the studio. In fact... there was never any talk of it at all.... they never mention it.  The reality is they never discuss it. ..There was never any fairly certain plan to do such at the end of the year. They are never are going to go into the studio again. In fact they hate recording albums. They hate the very thought of it and totally dismiss the idea all together. Mick never talked about it with the rest of the band as Keith said he did.... Keith only said 'end of the year' just for the hell of it.... and the reason Mojo mentions there is a new Stones album on plans both in the title and in the introduction is just to keep some people satisfied for the moment and for the sake of pumping some of us up. Anything you hear or read about them actually saying they want to record another album or in that they definately talked about it between each-other with a general time indication after Keith does his solo thing is complete horse shit. The truth is there is absolutely no interest from any of them in recording another album what-so-ever .. there never was.. and there is never going to be.  Hows that? Make sense? Sound good..?

Lighten up Francis.

Bitch wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

It should be easy for them to squeeze out one more if they put their minds to it. I'm sure there are lots of unfinished material that they can finish up and package. But maybe MICK is worried about quality and not just do it to do it. He does have some pride and a big ego. If it is not going to be a critically acclaimed success maybe he would rather not take chances with people saying the new album is shit, like so many did with ABB even though it had some great songs on it.

I doubt critical acclaim is a big deal. Critics have been slagging the Stones off as past it for 40 years. I'd imagine its water of a duck's back by now - and ABB actually got mostly VERY positive reviews, as I recall.  He also did a pretty good job with the new lyrics he put on the deluxe reissues. I doubt he sees himself as being washed up.  He says he still writes regularly. I doubt he'd do that if he didnt think he still 'had it'.

Sales arent an issue. Its The Rolling Stones. Of course it'll sell very well. They're not exactly a cult act.

I really hope they don't just 'finish up unreleased material' and pass it off as a 'new' record. That kind of thing was understandable in the 70s when you had maybe 10-12 months between albums - now you have 10-12 years.

A 'new' studio album consisting largely of 20-30 year old leftovers (or worse) would be the ultimate example of barrel scraping. They're not that desperate and (I hope) neither are we, surely.

job wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 8:27pm: Ok everyone then I tell ya what. There is no strong talk between them about recording an album or going in the studio. In fact... there was never any talk of it at all.... they never mention it.  The reality is they never discuss it. ..There was never any fairly certain plan to do such at the end of the year. They are never are going to go into the studio again. In fact they hate recording albums. They hate the very thought of it and totally dismiss the idea all together. Mick never talked about it with the rest of the band as Keith said he did.... Keith only said 'end of the year' just for the hell of it.... and the reason Mojo mentions there is a new Stones album on plans both in the title and in the introduction is just to keep some people satisfied for the moment and for the sake of pumping some of us up. Anything you hear or read about them actually saying they want to record another album or in that they definately talked about it between each-other with a general time indication after Keith does his solo thing is complete horse shit. The truth is there is absolutely no interest from any of them in recording another album what-so-ever .. there never was.. and there is never going to be.  Hows that? Make sense? Sound good..? Lighten up Francis.

http://www.morethings.com/fan/bill_murray/stripes/bill_murray-stripes1981-1355.jpg

Gazza wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bitch wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:52am: It should be easy for them to squeeze out one more if they put their minds to it. I'm sure there are lots of unfinished material that they can finish up and package. But maybe MICK is worried about quality and not just do it to do it. He does have some pride and a big ego. If it is not going to be a critically acclaimed success maybe he would rather not take chances with people saying the new album is shit, like so many did with ABB even though it had some great songs on it. I doubt critical acclaim is a big deal. Critics have been slagging the Stones off as past it for 40 years. I'd imagine its water of a duck's back by now - and ABB actually got mostly VERY positive reviews, as I recall.  He also did a pretty good job with the new lyrics he put on the deluxe reissues. I doubt he sees himself as being washed up.  He says he still writes regularly. I doubt he'd do that if he didnt think he still 'had it'. Sales arent an issue. Its The Rolling Stones. Of course it'll sell very well. They're not exactly a cult act. I really hope they don't just 'finish up unreleased material' and pass it off as a 'new' record. That kind of thing was understandable in the 70s when you had maybe 10-12 months between albums - now you have 10-12 years. A 'new' studio album consisting largely of 20-30 year old leftovers (or worse) would be the ultimate example of barrel scraping. They're not that desperate and (I hope) neither are we, surely.

I don't know. It's a pretty nice barrel...it's not a good look to go back 30 years virtually proving you got nothing left now...

It is a nice barrel, but its all about perception, as you kinda suggest.

Putting those old songs on deluxe reissues or boxed sets of outtakes (even if it requires a bit of polishing up) - totally logical.  (Give me the key to their archive and I'll even pick them out and save them the trouble  - for free!)

But not as a 'new' album. I've read some people suggesting a Tattoo You-like album with them touching up a few old leftovers. But Tattoo You consisted of basic tracks that were maybe 8-9 years old and in most cases 2-4 years old. They'd recorded about five studio albums in that time frame.

Even if they used leftover songs from their last album (and apparently there werent any, anyway) thats still material thats 10-11 years old at least.

I'd like to think that any band with three songwriters would be capable of having composed a dozen good songs in the last decade.

Gazza wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bitch wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:52am: It should be easy for them to squeeze out one more if they put their minds to it. I'm sure there are lots of unfinished material that they can finish up and package. But maybe MICK is worried about quality and not just do it to do it. He does have some pride and a big ego. If it is not going to be a critically acclaimed success maybe he would rather not take chances with people saying the new album is shit, like so many did with ABB even though it had some great songs on it. I doubt critical acclaim is a big deal. Critics have been slagging the Stones off as past it for 40 years. I'd imagine its water of a duck's back by now - and ABB actually got mostly VERY positive reviews, as I recall.  He also did a pretty good job with the new lyrics he put on the deluxe reissues. I doubt he sees himself as being washed up.  He says he still writes regularly. I doubt he'd do that if he didnt think he still 'had it'. Sales arent an issue. Its The Rolling Stones. Of course it'll sell very well. They're not exactly a cult act. I really hope they don't just 'finish up unreleased material' and pass it off as a 'new' record. That kind of thing was understandable in the 70s when you had maybe 10-12 months between albums - now you have 10-12 years. A 'new' studio album consisting largely of 20-30 year old leftovers (or worse) would be the ultimate example of barrel scraping. They're not that desperate and (I hope) neither are we, surely.

________________________________________________


Their new record will sell about 3-5 million in the states and about 2-4 elesewhere. Nothing HUGE ...but it will sell enough. They are not going to do an album in order to make money ... there is not much in it for them with sales like that... not for a band of their stature and what they command usually.

As well, as was mentioned.... the money is in touring today .. unless you are Taylor Swift or something in which you get a nice chunk of change as well as from your touring as a solo artist from an album that sells 10 million copies. The Stones won't sell as well as that and as well they are a four person act. As with most... the money is in the live shows in todays day and age. For The Stones... that's the way it's been since 1989.

I agree with Gazza.... I will be really let down if they have to dig in the can for a new record. With Exile... Some Girls... and now Sticky Fingers.. how much digging in the can do they want to do over a ten year period??

It is time for something brand spanking new... and something fresh. The 50th thing and all the nostalgia and digging in the can and the re-releases has ran it's course. I am suprised Mick didn't 'insist' on recording a new album before any new tour such as they did this summer with Zip Code (but hey .. I saw the show and gues what.. I sure as hell ain't complainin ...ha!!).

<Time for something fresh, new... and exciting.. an ALL NEW project (album)>

and guess what... I think that's what is going to be on plans here from them to start on come later on this year.


Ian

Gazza wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34am:

The headline says 'album' Keith's quote says 'recording' . No mention of the word 'album' at all. Could be another two songs again pumped out in four days like last time for all we know. Said it when this was mentioned and debated about 3-4 months ago that in a year's time we'll still be waiting on this 'album'. So he's making some vague speculation about 'recording' in five months time? I reckon my prediction for no new Stones album by spring 2016 is pretty safe.  By that timescale he's talking about I would doubt it'd be available by this time next year either Would love to be wrong though!!!  They should do this. Regardless of how well they're playing, the nostalgia trip is getting very stale IMO. Time for a shake up

Totally agree Gaz. Keith is always hoping Jagger will get down to composing an album. ALBUM- That's the key word. It's been ten years since A Bigger Bang, and I personally don't think that 1. Jagger can tolerate Keith for more than 15 minutes, unless it's on stage.
2. I just don't think 15 songs, or even 10 songs are in them. Let's face it; They've been doing this for 53 years, ABBang was it, I think anyway.

I think Keith just can't deal with the fact that Jagger has other interests. You're right two , three, or four songs tacked onto the next reissue, that'll be it. I said ten years ago; all this stuff that was tucked away in the vaults would be released as they wound it down. And now we have it.

In just six, or so years look at all the hidden stuff that's been released, I actually get quite a kick out all this vaults stuff and the reissues. I really liked 'Pass The Wine', One More Shot, and I thought 'Doom And Gloom' was a wicked track, I love it.

So, personally; although I know many, many people would love a whole new Stones studio job, I don't think it will happen. We've had a superb run, since 1963 for Christ's Sake! Imagine being a Status Quo fan, the band ending there career by selling out, and actually appearing in an Australian supermarket commercial, PLAYING....CARDBOARD FUCKING GUITARS? 'Down, Down, prices are down.' As Charlie Brown used to say;........GOOD GRIEF! So I say; keep the vaults coming. I can't wait to see what's next. Hope it's Paris, (Le Abbotoirs), 1976. The boot is great, but very blurred.

I hope you are right Ian and Gazza. A new album would be a thrill, either scraping the barrel or "all new" because now there is some free time after the tour for them to get to work.   

Bitch wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:50pm:

I hope you are right Ian and Gazza. A new album would be a thrill, either scraping the barrel or "all new" because now there is some free time after the tour for them to get to work.

No offence Miss Bitch but, They really can't get on in confined places such as studios. I mean if someone told the world that I had the tiny todger, I don't think I'd want to spend five minutes on the same continent with them.

"  No offence Miss Bitch but, They really can't get on in confined places such as studios. I mean if someone told the world that I had the tiny todger, I don't think I'd want to spend five minutes on the same continent with them.  " 


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Keith stated that Mick had HUGE " Cojones " ! Word .

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:45pm: Bitch wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:52am: It should be easy for them to squeeze out one more if they put their minds to it. I'm sure there are lots of unfinished material that they can finish up and package. But maybe MICK is worried about quality and not just do it to do it. He does have some pride and a big ego. If it is not going to be a critically acclaimed success maybe he would rather not take chances with people saying the new album is shit, like so many did with ABB even though it had some great songs on it. I doubt critical acclaim is a big deal. Critics have been slagging the Stones off as past it for 40 years. I'd imagine its water of a duck's back by now - and ABB actually got mostly VERY positive reviews, as I recall.  He also did a pretty good job with the new lyrics he put on the deluxe reissues. I doubt he sees himself as being washed up.  He says he still writes regularly. I doubt he'd do that if he didnt think he still 'had it'. Sales arent an issue. Its The Rolling Stones. Of course it'll sell very well. They're not exactly a cult act. I really hope they don't just 'finish up unreleased material' and pass it off as a 'new' record. That kind of thing was understandable in the 70s when you had maybe 10-12 months between albums - now you have 10-12 years. A 'new' studio album consisting largely of 20-30 year old leftovers (or worse) would be the ultimate example of barrel scraping. They're not that desperate and (I hope) neither are we, surely. ________________________________________________ Their new record will sell about 3-5 million in the states and about 2-4 elesewhere. Nothing HUGE ...but it will sell enough. They are not going to do an album in order to make money ... there is not much in it for them with sales like that... not for a band of their stature and what they command usually.

So you reckon a new Stones album will sell between 5 and 9 million?

Only if, God forbid, they're all killed in a horrible accident on the eve of its release.

As big as Some Girls and Tattoo You then, despite the fact that record sales in general have plummeted by about 70% in the last decade and 'A Bigger Bang' has sold 2.6 million copies in ten years even though they did 147 shows to promote it in front of about four and a half million people?

ABB has barely sold a million copies in the US.  Its a decent amount (if less than it should have been considering how many people saw the shows and how much money the tour generated)

The figures you're suggesting would have them selling records on the same level as Lady GaGa, Taylor Swift and the like. Thats not going to happen on any planet, let alone this one.

Joey wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:

"  No offence Miss Bitch but, They really can't get on in confined places such as studios. I mean if someone told the world that I had the tiny todger, I don't think I'd want to spend five minutes on the same continent with them.  "  ************************************************************ Keith stated that Mick had HUGE " Cojones " ! Word .

He did indeed. But he followed that up with "But that doesn't quite fill the hole ; if you what I mean?"

I read the Keith interview in MOJO today - its just out here in the UK.

His exact quote re; a new Stones album is a bit vague re: the timeline, but I doubt they'll start anything in 2015.

Do you think the Stones will record another album and tour again? Its ten years since A Bigger Bang.

In truth, the answer to all that is yes. I think we will. We'll do this year, then go into the studio. I know Mick wants to record again - he blurted it out in a meeting "its about time we went back and recorded". I was like "we're here to talk about a tour, right?". So that will be interesting. End of the year.

Gazza wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:42pm:

I read the Keith interview in MOJO today - its just out here in the UK. His exact quote re; a new Stones album is a bit vague re: the timeline, but I doubt they'll start anything in 2015. Do you think the Stones will record another album and tour again? Its ten years since A Bigger Bang. In truth, the answer to all that is yes. I think we will. We'll do this year, then go into the studio. I know Mick wants to record again - he blurted it out in a meeting "its about time we went back and recorded". I was like "we're here to talk about a tour, right?". So that will be interesting. End of the year.

____________________________________________

I thought ABB sold 2.7 million in The US only and I figured it sold another couple more world wide. My mistake. I also factored in if they actually promoted the new album more (which I am figuring they will)... so I was figuring 3-5 in the States alone. My mistake.


How is the new album concept or timeline a bit vague??? Is this really all about some timeline that may fluctuate a few months lol? I kinda-sorta- thought this is about IF a new album ...versus whether or not they actually start on it by the end of the year.

I am amazed at how much you cannot conceive they very much plan on recording and are certainly interested in a new album? See Keiths quote .. <In truth... Yes to all of that>. That means ...Y-E-S... not maybe. He was asked about recording an album guy. He said yes.... End of the year to start that ..and bru ..thats what he says for now. It's not vague at all... its a question with a direct answer. Not saying its set in stone.. (no pun) .. but thats the objective and those are the plans Lol ... yikes.

They ARE going to record another album and yes they are interested in it and yes they spoke about it and yes that is supposedly in the cards. Pretty open and shut case. Who cares if they start in December or Febuary.. the point is there are plans for starting to record / work on another album between them within the next what... say 5 - 7 months and it should be out next year some time (probably fall).

That's really the TBL (the bottum line)...here ...not whether they actually get to recording or working on it by the end of the year or miss it by a month or two lol? The point is simply this ... a new Stones album is on plans to most likely come out out next year some time it's looking like. That's whats its looking like ..  Thats the point here.

Ian

Jesus wept. Pedantic, much?

How is it vague?

He says 'yes' - then in the next sentence he says 'I think we will'

He says 'we'll do this year, then go into the studio' (meaning 'after 2015')  and then ends with 'end of the year'

Intent, but with a vague timeline.

'who cares when they start'? Only you, it would appear.  I've little interest in splitting hairs in July 2015 about something which I wont be able to hear for at least a year.


"thats what he says for now it's not vague at all... its a question with a direct answer. Not saying its set in stone.."

You dont see the contradiction in what youve just said - and then you're being obsessive about my use of the word 'vague' ?



And who's this 'guy' , anyway ?

Gazza wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

Jesus wept. Pedantic, much? How is it vague? He says 'yes' - then in the next sentence he says 'I think we will' He says 'we'll do this year, then go into the studio' (meaning 'after 2015')  and then ends with 'end of the year' Intent, but with a vague timeline. 'who cares when they start'? Only you, it would appear.  I've little interest in splitting hairs in July 2015 about something which I wont be able to hear for at least a year. "thats what he says for now it's not vague at all... its a question with a direct answer. Not saying its set in stone.." You dont see the contradiction in what youve just said - and then you're being obsessive about my use of the word 'vague' ? And who's this 'guy' , anyway ?

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I thought you were refferring that the point was vague on whether they will actually do another album lol (I was gonna SAY). My bad.

Yes his time-line is a bit spotty.. a little contradictive... but the point is this...and it appears / reads sort of like this. They plan on finishing the tour... Keith plans on his solo album thing and by end of this year those things should be wrapped up and then they plan on starting a new album ...that is how it reads (or early in the next they plan on working on a new album is also a possibility Id say).

I'd like to add something but it seems every angle of speculation has been covered. Any new album won't sell shit because no one buys anymore. We'd like to believe they have one last creative "give a shit" in them but it's a very long shot at best they bother. That I'll bet on. Best scenario? Keith's new stuff receives critical acclaim and we love the tunes. Stones are done recording (ooops I just speculated)

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 5:37pm: Jesus wept. Pedantic, much? How is it vague? He says 'yes' - then in the next sentence he says 'I think we will' He says 'we'll do this year, then go into the studio' (meaning 'after 2015')  and then ends with 'end of the year' Intent, but with a vague timeline. 'who cares when they start'? Only you, it would appear.  I've little interest in splitting hairs in July 2015 about something which I wont be able to hear for at least a year. "thats what he says for now it's not vague at all... its a question with a direct answer. Not saying its set in stone.." You dont see the contradiction in what youve just said - and then you're being obsessive about my use of the word 'vague' ? And who's this 'guy' , anyway ? ___________________________________ I thought you were refferring that the point was vague on whether they will actually do another album lol (I was gonna SAY). My bad. Yes his time-line is a bit spotty.. a little contradictive... but the point is this...and it appears / reads sort of like this. They plan on finishing the tour... Keith plans on his solo album thing and by end of this year those things should be wrapped up and then they plan on starting a new album ...that is how it reads (or early in the next they plan on working on a new album is also a possibility Id say).

Plan, yes.  Certainly agree on that.  Hopefully they'll still feel the same way in six months time.

Although with South America now likely to be February-March 2016 (unless those plans get shelved again), any timelines are very much subject to change.

And a tour leg will always be prioritised over plans to make a record, I would guess.

Gazza wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 5:48pm: Gazza wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 5:37pm: Jesus wept. Pedantic, much? How is it vague? He says 'yes' - then in the next sentence he says 'I think we will' He says 'we'll do this year, then go into the studio' (meaning 'after 2015')  and then ends with 'end of the year' Intent, but with a vague timeline. 'who cares when they start'? Only you, it would appear.  I've little interest in splitting hairs in July 2015 about something which I wont be able to hear for at least a year. "thats what he says for now it's not vague at all... its a question with a direct answer. Not saying its set in stone.." You dont see the contradiction in what youve just said - and then you're being obsessive about my use of the word 'vague' ? And who's this 'guy' , anyway ? ___________________________________ I thought you were refferring that the point was vague on whether they will actually do another album lol (I was gonna SAY). My bad. Yes his time-line is a bit spotty.. a little contradictive... but the point is this...and it appears / reads sort of like this. They plan on finishing the tour... Keith plans on his solo album thing and by end of this year those things should be wrapped up and then they plan on starting a new album ...that is how it reads (or early in the next they plan on working on a new album is also a possibility Id say). Plan, yes.  Certainly agree on that.  Hopefully they'll still feel the same way in six months time. Although with South America now likely to be February-March 2016 (unless those plans get shelved again), any timelines are very much subject to change. And a tour leg will always be prioritised over plans to make a record, I would guess.

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I agree. I'm sure they talked about it and suggested the end of the year as a slightly more than tentative plan to a 'fairly solid' idea to get started on one. However.. I'm sure nothing is totally firm... and I am sure no specific date has been set. You know them ...  and yes... I also agree ... any leg of any tour is always gonna take the priority over an album. They will shelve those plans till doomsday if they got a tour leg to do... unless there is ample break time in between. I think their goal is to stay active at this point. They are getting far too old to simply shut down and do nothing. Keith could not handle another tw0-three years of inactivity and get going again at this point. for Mick and all of them that would be a no-no at this age.. (fine line between getting worn down and staying limber /sharp / up to snuff at this age and it looks as if they are going to try and ride that fine line.

They know what they are doing...they ALMOST waited too long up to 2012. Was a long haul back lemme say. 

They are in it for the long haul,
no turning back.
Going the distance.
All down the line,
all the way home,
To the end of the road
as far as they can take it.

Bitch wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 8:55pm:

They are in it for the long haul, no turning back. Going the distance. All down the line, all the way home, To the end of the road as far as they can take it.

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Agreed... Agreed!! :))

Interesting speculative discussion and I believe the horse has been declared dead.

In an effort to move on -- and terribly off topic, if not off the board itself, have you seen the new 1982 Who Shea Stadium release? Keith Moon loyalist or not:https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2knAX_LkONAOZs3WJzI0kwTKFXLkG4st&params=OAFIAVgB&v=pCMgdq7MQGQ&mode=NORMAL

We're talking about thoroughbreds, fuck*r.

just do it.

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 3:23am:

We're talking about thoroughbreds, fuck*r.

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Ha.... Thanks My man!! :D  ... :)  (and tell em don't forget it)

With the Stones opening up a travelling museum gallery show, they most certainly will tour tour and tour. A new record feels about right. It will showcase where the band is now and not make everything feel like nostalgic trip.

They certainly will not retire and become museum relics.

Think about it!

I honestly don't give a shit if they release a new album or not. But if they do, it should be titled "for Ian Billen".

You've earned it Ian!  :loloncemore :wow :smilestu

Soon we will say we predicted this...

Some Guy wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 7:56am:

Soon we will say we predicted this...

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Lol ... well wait a second ... I must point this out...and not to toot my own horn but I do get thrashed here fairly regularly .... So Ok then...well I actually 'have' (with a select very few others). 

Soon my long time point in them being still very interested in making a record and that they plan on starting one / doing one at some point in the future will be a reality bc they will start on one (which btw... in which everyone said I was koo-koo and a total jack-ass for even thinking such a thing.... oh btw...those same people have significantly quieted down lately ...hmmmmm I wonder why?...).

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 7:56am: Soon we will say we predicted this... _________________________________________ Lol ... well wait a second ... I must point this out...and not to toot my own horn but I do get thrashed here fairly regularly .... So Ok then...well I actually 'have' (with a select very few others).  Soon my long time point in them being still very interested in making a record and that they plan on starting one / doing one at some point in the future will be a reality bc they will start on one (which btw... in which everyone said I was koo-koo and a total jack-ass for even thinking such a thing.... oh btw...those same people have significantly quieted down lately ...hmmmmm I wonder why?...).

Ian, you've been predicting a new Stones album every year for the past decade or so. And every time you predict it, Gazza patiently explains to you why it's not happening.

Every time Keith  gets interviewed, of course he's going to mention the possibility of a new Stones album. What the hell else is he gonna do? Play golf?
:whydontcha

They should record. They should tour behind it AND give the album away...not for FREE but with your paid admission to the show. This practice is now forbidden by Billboard  and SoundScan.

PRINCE did that with Musicology...a triple album that he knew would not sell OTC...but every week he moved 50K units by giving them away at the door.

bought at wholesale (which counts as shipped units) sold with the tickets at a modest profit (counts as units moved...voila...number 1 every week for a month ( top 5 in us, UK, Eurozone).
They handed you the CD when you walked into the show. One of his best tours IMO.

This pissed off Billboard and SoundScan that they changed the rules for units moved...that is why you know have the option to purchase goods with your ticket and not have it "included".

Like the U2 debacle only much more personal and nobody complained except the charts themselves. Well, I complained because now I had 3 copies in my house of the darn thing!!

<  ---- BEST STONES YET !!!!!!!

leonid wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 3:21am:

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:33pm: Some Guy wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 7:56am: Soon we will say we predicted this... _________________________________________ Ian _________________________________________ Lol ... well wait a second ... I must point this out...and not to toot my own horn but I do get thrashed here fairly regularly .... So Ok then...well I actually 'have' (with a select very few others).  Soon my long time point in them being still very interested in making a record and that they plan on starting one / doing one at some point in the future will be a reality bc they will start on one (which btw... in which everyone said I was koo-koo and a total jack-ass for even thinking such a thing.... oh btw...those same people have significantly quieted down lately ...hmmmmm I wonder why?...). Ian, you've been predicting a new Stones album every year for the past decade or so. And every time you predict it, Gazza patiently explains to you why it's not happening. Every time Keith  gets interviewed, of course he's going to mention the possibility of a new Stones album. What the hell else is he gonna do? Play golf? :whydontcha

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I was not refferring to Gazza .. he at least is respectful (and has strong points).

I said they plan on recording a new album <at some point and time in the future> ..and are still interested in recording. However, There were two times I thought they were going to do an album (Forty Licks Sessions) ...and once around 2010 .. I heard Keith was going into the studio ..which it must of been from his solo ..?? or something.  I never friggin dreamed it would be for a solo record at this point from him.

Btw....this is unreal .. you are still seriously doubting they have plans. Nothing 110% solid but fair plans to get together.. later this year (maybe early next year) lol Unreal.

They've all got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, so I would certainly like some new material soon.

leonid wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 3:21am:

Ian, you've been predicting a new Stones album every year for the past decade or so. And every time you predict it, Gazza patiently explains to you why it's not happening. Every time Keith  gets interviewed, of course he's going to mention the possibility of a new Stones album. What the hell else is he gonna do? Play golf?

I don't know why...but this statement just makes me laugh!!!
The idea of Keef on the back nine?
The image of gazza banging his head as he "patiently explains"??
or the image of Ian with the EUREKA light bulb as he types away at his exclusive...?!?

I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!

Ian ?


https://youtu.be/O0yxRaDLWa8

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

Ian ? https://youtu.be/O0yxRaDLWa8

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What the hell kind of show is this? Obviously whatever it was it never totally took off. Who is Een Senfield...?

And as far as this eeeen? guy goes... his parents should have their heads checked. WHY name your kid "Een" ?? It's naming him Ian or leave it ... (I prefer them leaving it... I got a name to protect.. so to speak. That name is <Ian>

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

leonid wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:21am: Ian Billen wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:33pm: Some Guy wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 7:56am: Soon we will say we predicted this... _________________________________________ Ian _________________________________________ Lol ... well wait a second ... I must point this out...and not to toot my own horn but I do get thrashed here fairly regularly .... So Ok then...well I actually 'have' (with a select very few others).  Soon my long time point in them being still very interested in making a record and that they plan on starting one / doing one at some point in the future will be a reality bc they will start on one (which btw... in which everyone said I was koo-koo and a total jack-ass for even thinking such a thing.... oh btw...those same people have significantly quieted down lately ...hmmmmm I wonder why?...). Ian, you've been predicting a new Stones album every year for the past decade or so. And every time you predict it, Gazza patiently explains to you why it's not happening. Every time Keith  gets interviewed, of course he's going to mention the possibility of a new Stones album. What the hell else is he gonna do? Play golf? :whydontcha _____________________________________________ I was not refferring to Gazza .. he at least is respectful (and has strong points). I said they plan on recording a new album <at some point and time in the future> ..and are still interested in recording. However, There were two times I thought they were going to do an album (Forty Licks Sessions) ...and once around 2010 .. I heard Keith was going into the studio ..which it must of been from his solo ..?? or something.  I never friggin dreamed it would be for a solo record at this point from him. Btw....this is unreal .. you are still seriously doubting they have plans. Nothing 110% solid but fair plans to get together.. later this year (maybe early next year) lol Unreal.

You've been doing this for years. Look at your post history! You just claimed a new Stones album could sell 9 million copies. You said that! Ridiculous.

Could they release a new album in 2016? Probably. But what would motivate them to do so? There is no financial gain in it and if they tour for it, they'd probably only play 2 songs off it, then forget about it. There is literally no reason for them to make a new album. None. the casual fans that are going to stadium shows have no interest in new songs, and that's the fan base that they are catering to. The money is in touring, not new albums.

Leonoid wrote:


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You've been doing this for years. Look at your post history! You just claimed a new Stones album could sell 9 million copies. You said that! Ridiculous. Could they release a new album in 2016? Probably. But what would motivate them to do so? There is no financial gain in it and if they tour for it, they'd probably only play 2 songs off it, then forget about it. There is literally no reason for them to make a new album. None. the casual fans that are going to stadium shows have no interest in new songs, and that's the fan base that they are catering to. The money is in touring, not new albums.

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Leonoid,

Hold on a min ... You misread / misinterpreted my statment above, or maybe I did not state it correctly. When I said that I had only stated The Stones were doing an album only twice (two years) in the past I meant that in the past it was my belief at two specific times they were in fact recording  / doing one ...<as I spoke> .... at those times (they were not.. I admit fault in those statements).

I HAVE certainly stated, and argued my thought here and elsewhere ..every year... that I thought they <would> once again record an album 'at some point in the future' all along and that there is still 'a strong interest' in them wanting to do that at some point and time (I stand by that today).

The reason they will want to do an album has not much to do with money.. It is for the very same reason Keith recorded and is releasing one of his own .. (...his solo album is not going to make him any money anyway ...right?.. so why is he / did he do it? .. Well it's simple... Because he likes to write /create songs and record albums and create recorded projects  .. he's an artist lol).

>> The Rolling Stones are <artists> and artists feel the need to create... They feel the need to add chapters to their catalogue... especially those at the level that The Stones have throughout their 50 years. Sure they took a HELL of a long break.. but I think they want to record a new product again and they always intended on it. I always stated that.. you seem more to the contrary that they wont. We shall see. I suppose when they do start recording one you will also be in the group that says it will surely suck. When it comes out you will probably be in the group that calls it rubbish lol. 


The reason I thought A potential Stones album could sell 9 million is bc I was under the impression Voodoo Lounge sold 5 million in the US alone...and three million elsewhere. I thought if they promoted it .. thats as good as it could possibly to in today's age for them .. (though times have changed considerably since 94... big time .. I realize that.. Internet... downloads... age... etc.).

Ian

Ian rules!

The Rolling Stones are <artists> and artists feel the need to create.

I stopped reading at this point. Did I miss anything? :-)

Gazza wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 2:09pm:

The Rolling Stones are <artists> and artists feel the need to create. I stopped reading at this point. Did I miss anything? :-)

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Well you little pisser man you!

Ok .. I admit I should have added the line..."..sooner or LATER.. in this case it's later.. much later.. lol"


... Ian