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Message started by Gimme Shelter on May 31st, 2013 at 1:02am

Title: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by Gimme Shelter on May 31st, 2013 at 1:02am
The Rolling Stones are reportedly not allowing the BBC to air their full Glastonbury performance.

According to The Independent, the broadcaster has held "top-level discussions" with Sir Mick Jagger after the 'Paint It Black' band only permitted their four opening songs at the festival to be shown on TV.


A source said: "Mick agreed to do Glastonbury for the fans who are there, he didn't sign up for a TV show. It's not about money. This show will go around the world.

"If there's torrential rain it will play havoc with their performance and they want to sound and look at their best. There's a lot of factors out of their control."

Meanwhile, the BBC's head of music television Mark Cooper added: "We are having an ongoing discussion with the Stones. I'm talking to Mick about it. At this point I'm quite optimistic we'll get a sufficient amount of music."

Cooper added: "I understand it is a risk for them. They are stepping out of their comfort zone. There's an unpredictability, it's not their natural audience.

"They are nervous about how much they should share. But when legendary artists play Glastonbury, they also attract a whole new, broader audience."

The BBC yesterday announced plans for its most extensive ever coverage of Glastonbury, with 120 live performances being broadcast and six stages set up for live streaming.


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Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury sh
Post by Pdog on May 31st, 2013 at 6:57am
we all know, they play differently when it's aired live… they are right to hold back… They want to blow the crowd away, not sone person watching in a chair, who is also going to be the most vocal critic, despite being overweight, unwiped and smelling of seclusion and shame!!!
Air it later in full, after a review if they approve… oh well… these people paid good money to see the festival, not have a band play to an at home audience…
rant over!!!1

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury sh
Post by Paranoid Android on May 31st, 2013 at 8:38am

Pdog wrote on May 31st, 2013 at 6:57am:
we all know, they play differently when it's aired live… they are right to hold back… They want to blow the crowd away, not sone person watching in a chair, who is also going to be the most vocal critic, despite being overweight, unwiped and smelling of seclusion and shame!!!
Air it later in full, after a review if they approve… oh well… these people paid good money to see the festival, not have a band play to an at home audience…
rant over!!!1


This concert has stopped being a self-contained event...it is for the armchair/streaming crowd as much as for the grotty little kids at the show. It has been for a long time...

Not that I would expect anything less from Sir Mick...but it seems rather pompous and overbearing  to agree to this event...AFTER tickets are sold out...and knowing what the
festival historically entails ( air time, world wide coverage, etc) and just say "Uh...No"...

Like I said in the other Gasto thread...SPLIT THE WARHORSES UP between the first hour and the second hour...give the BBC and the viewing audience what the want and keep the rest for yourselves

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury sh
Post by lavendar on May 31st, 2013 at 8:56am
2013

That is so funny "They want to Blow the crowds away"  I find that amusing

I just want them to stay Healthy and

keep enjoying what they do best!  

Such a Library of HITS !

50 Fifty F- Years 50

mile "Stone"

LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!

(can't believe their are still Stones Virgins out there LOL)

I "Only" R/R   :D 8-) :P :-* :)

Title: Live coverage of Glasto in doubt
Post by Ade on May 31st, 2013 at 2:57am
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/lets-not-spend-the-night-together-bbc-holds-emergency-summit-with-sir-mick-jagger-to-end-rolling-stones-glastonbury-blackout-8638320.html




If you start me up, I’ll never stop.” But the television cameras could be switched off after The Rolling Stones banned the BBC from broadcasting their eagerly-anticipated Glastonbury festival set in full.

The BBC was due to hold top-level discussions with Sir Mick Jagger on Thursday night in order to overcome an impasse which threatens to undermine the corporation’s promise to deliver the most comprehensive Glastonbury coverage yet seen.

The Stones’ Pyramid Stage headline performance on the festival’s Saturday night, a coup for the organisers, was expected to provide the BBC with one of the television highlights of the Summer.

The rock legends’ greatest hits set was due to be broadcast live on BBC Two, Radio 2 and online to millions of fans who could not get tickets for the festival.

However the Stones, who last year distributed a sold-out New York show to fans in a $40 pay-per-view deal, told the BBC that the corporation would not be allowed to screen more than a sample of their performance.

The BBC was told that at best, they could show the opening four songs of the band’s set. Then viewers would be told that the band had demanded a “black-out” of the rest of their performance.

The BBC, which is screening 250 hours of live music from Glastonbury online and through its programming, has been locked in negotiations with the band in a bid to extend their “hit allowance”.

The band is planning to release its own live DVD from their current 50 and Counting… tour. But control appears to be the sticking point as much as finance.

“Mick agreed to do Glastonbury for the fans who are there, he didn’t sign up for a TV show,” said a source. “It’s not about money. This show will go around the world. If there’s torrential rain it will play havoc with their performance and they want to sound and look at their best. There’s a lot of factors out of their control.”

Torrential rain was blamed for an underwhelming headline performance by U2 in 2011.

With the event less than a month away, Mark Cooper, BBC head of music television, has personally sought to assure Jagger that he can guarantee the best quality sound and visuals for a performance which could introduce the band to a new, younger audience.

“We are having an on-going discussion with the Stones. I’m talking to Mick about it tonight,” Cooper told the Independent. “At this point I’m quite optimistic we’ll get a sufficient amount of music.”

Insiders suggest that mounting excitement over the Glastonbury performance has persuaded the Stones to relax their restrictions.

Instead of a set cut short after Gimme Shelter, the band is prepared to allow one hour to be broadcast, which should give viewers a glimpse of "Honky Tonk Women". Whether the living room audience will climax with traditional set closer "Satisfaction", is still a matter for negotiation.

Mr Cooper is sympathetic to the concerns of a veteran band whose public appearances are tightly controlled. “I understand it is a risk for them. They are stepping out of their comfort zone,” he said.

“There’s an unpredictability, it’s not their natural audience. They are nervous about how much they should share. But when legendary artists play Glastonbury, they also attract a whole new, broader audience.”

The persuasive Cooper has a track record of arm-twisting superstars into handing over their hits to the BBC. “There’s always negotiations with the headliners,” he said. “Bruce Springsteen said he would only allow 25 minutes but the show went so well they gave us 90 minutes in the end. Blur didn’t want any filming at all but they allowed it in the end.”

The BBC hopes that Glastonbury’s move into the mainstream will encourage the Stones to play on. The corporation yesterday unveiled blanket coverage which includes slots on Songs Of Praise and The One Show.

Bob Shennan, the BBC’s controller of popular music, said the emergence of mainstream headline acts like Mumford & Sons meant that Glastonbury’s natural home for the biggest names had shifted to Radio 2. Radio 1 will focus on dance acts whilst Arctic Monkeys’ Friday headline set will be broadcast by 6 Music.

Utilising technological advances tested at last year’s Olympic Games, live streams will be available simultaneously from six different stages. More than 130 performances will be available on catch-up for 30 days.

Mr Shennan said he expected more than 20 million people to tune in at some point over the June 28-30 weekend.

Michael Eavis, who founded the event which was once associated with hippies and hedonism, will be interviewed on Songs Of Praise about his Methodist faith.

Title: Re: Live coverage of Glasto in doubt
Post by Paranoid Android on May 31st, 2013 at 8:31am
Seems like a simple solution...split the warhorses up...half for the first hour and the other half for the next hour...would it kill them to play Satisfaction at the 40 minute mark...along with SMU and Brown Sugar? Saving SFTD, JJF , YCAGWYW, and TD for the second unaired portion???

:warhorse :warhorse :warhorse :warhorse :warhorse :warhorse

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury sh
Post by Ade on May 31st, 2013 at 9:11am
"money-hungry bottlers"

------->  that's currently, the general concensus, on music forums (incl. NME & Glasto) who don't have a Stones bias.

Great legacy, huh?  :scary

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by Gazza on Jun 20th, 2013 at 2:20pm
Glastonbury: BBC 'to show an hour of Rolling Stones set'



The Rolling Stones will headline on the Saturday night



The BBC will broadcast an hour of The Rolling Stones' headline set at Glastonbury, according to festival organiser Michael Eavis.

The band had reportedly insisted that only four songs from their 90-minute set could be shown on TV.

But Eavis told reporters a compromise had been reached. "I think they're all friends now," he told reporters.

The BBC could not confirm the reports, but said there were "constructive ongoing conversations" with the band.

Eavis, who established the Glastonbury Festival on his farm in Pilton 43 years ago, said he had also endured protracted negotiations with Mick Jagger and co.

"It's taken a long time to get them to come and play," he said. "Everyone wants to see the Stones, basically."

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BBC Glastonbury Festival - 2013
The Introducing Stage
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"I think Mick Jagger wanted to play to the people here, rather than a TV show," he added. "They're going to be playing for about an hour for the TV."

According to the Press Association, only those at the festival will see the band's final half hour, with fireworks set to light up the sky over the Worthy Farm site.

Eavis also said he was concerned the veteran rockers might prove too popular for the venue.

"There might be a problem with the size of the crowd so it's slightly worrying for me, in a way," he said.

But he added the Pyramid area had been extended to allow for the thousands of fans expected for the band's set in a bid to avoid any problems with overcrowding.

Last month, the BBC said there would be 250 hours of live broadcasting from Glastonbury's six main stages.

The festival opens its gates next Tuesday, with the main bands playing from Friday. The other headline acts are Mumford and Sons and the Arctic Monkeys.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22995473

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by Gazza on Jun 20th, 2013 at 2:24pm
I think Mick Jagger wanted to play to the people here, rather than a TV show," he added. "They're going to be playing for about an hour for the TV."

According to the Press Association, only those at the festival will see the band's final half hour, with fireworks set to light up the sky over the Worthy Farm site.



Something's amiss here. Last week they said the Stones would play for at least two hours, and the start and end times of each band's line up that was announced suggested that.

Interesting that this suggests that the part broadcast wont be second half charge through the warhorses, but the first hour, so maybe a decent mix of hits and surprises.

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by gimmekeef on Jun 20th, 2013 at 2:57pm
yes..unless the play the setlist backwards!

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by Gazza on Jun 20th, 2013 at 5:23pm
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if as a one off they switched a few of the warhorses into the first part of the show to make it look better for TV.  Quite understandable in fact.

Could be cause for utter mayhem if Keith finds himself on autopilot and launches into 'Gimme Shelter' in the #4 slot while the rest of the band are playing 'Jumpin' Jack Flash'.

Things like that have happened before - check out the bootleg of the 17.1.98 show at MSG where the band plays 'Respectable' - and Mick sings 'When The Whip Comes Down' instead. Miraculously, they actually manage to hold it together.

Title: Re: Stones not allowing airing full Glastonbury show
Post by wiseblood on Jun 20th, 2013 at 10:22pm
Mick won't allow this to be seen on the TV or on the computer unless you pay $600 per person to see it.

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