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Message started by Patrick on Feb 28th, 2013 at 6:12pm

Title: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Patrick on Feb 28th, 2013 at 6:12pm


The Rolling Stones are threatening legal action to halt a new musical set in London's Swinging 60s heyday which is set to include one of their biggest hits.

Carnaby Street: The Musical will feature 30 classic rock tracks including “Let's Spend the Night Together”, the Stones' 1967 song.

The producers have gained permission from the Stones' new York-based publishers to use the track. It would be the first time a Stones song has been incorporated into a stage musical.

But Sir Mick Jagger and Keith Richards had not been informed that Jody Klein, son of Allen Klein, the band's notorious former business manager who died in 2009, had approved the use of their song. They challenged claims by the producers that the musical had their blessing.

Former EastEnders actor Sid Owen will star in the show, which is due to open at the Hackney Empire in April before going on a nationwide tour.

He plays a character called Jumpin' Jack, inspired by the 1968 Stones' song Jumping Jack Flash.

The producers then hope to open Carnaby Street in the West End and are planning to roll out the show across the world.

But a source close to the Stones said: “Mick and Keith did not sanction the use of their music. They do not want to be associated with this musical. They believe they have the right to stop their song being used and are planning to take legal action to remove it from the soundtrack.”

The advertised soundtrack includes “You Really Got Me” by the Kinks and other era-defining hits by The Who, The Animals and Manfred Mann.

The show is the brainchild of veteran live music agent Carl Leighton-Pope, 67, who represents Bryan Adams and Michael Bublé.

A former cloakroom attendant at the Marquee Club music venue in the mid-Sixties, he spent ten years preparing the musical for the stage, basing the storyline on characters from his own experience.

The greatest challenge was getting permission to use the 60s landmark hits.

Bob Tomson, the show's director, who previously made Dreamboats and Petticoats a West End hit, said: “It took a lot of schmoozing but we got an agreement to use a Stones' song to a stage musical for the first time. The artists want to know their songs are being used in an appropriate context.”

The Stones were previously involved in a dispute over The Verve's Bitter Sweet Symphony hit, which sampled an orchestral version of their song, The Last Time. Klein's ABKCO Industries sued the Verve for 100% of the royalties, a decision which the Stones were powerless to prevent.

Ray Davies is believed to  be considering an offer to write a new title song for Carnaby Street, in a classic 60s Kinks style. The Beatles baulked at allowing their songs to be used.

The producers wanted to include, “Do You Want to Know a Secret?”, a McCartney-Lennon, composition recorded by Billy J. Kramer in 1963.

Mr Tomson claimed: “Paul McCartney was keen but unfortunately it's out of his hands. Hopefully the publishers will see the show and change their minds.”        

Carnaby Street tells the story of Jude, a working class boy from Liverpool who travels to London with his best friend Penny Lane (Verity Rushworth) and his guitar, in search of fame and fortune.

A chance encounter with man-about-town Jumpin' Jack (Owen) leads to Jude joining a band led by a singer called “Wild Thing” at The Marquee Club, who tempts the ingénue with a life of sex, drugs and rock n'roll.

The show promises to celebrate the music and fashions of the swinging 60s, with a “pop-up” Carnaby Street retro clothes store opening alongside its run.

Mr Leighton-Pope recalled the era. “I was walking down Carnaby Street once in 1964 and Mick Jagger was standing outside the Lady Jane  boutique. Then a Mini pulled up and Macca and Jane Asher got out.

”We didn't see them as famous people then, it was just how life was in those days. It was a carefree time and I thought someone had to capture that world - the music, the girls and the fashion - before we all get too old and boring.“

Carnaby Street aims to follow the West End success of ”jukebox musicals“ including the 50s-era Dreamboats And Petticoats and Rock Of Ages, based on the ”hair-metal“ heavy metal hits of the 70s and 80s.

Carnaby Street opens at Hackney Empire on April 6 -  www.carnabystreetthemusical.com


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/news/rolling-stones-threaten-legal-action-over-new-swinging-60s-musical-carnaby-street-8515220.html

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by gorda on Mar 1st, 2013 at 1:26am
Hmmm . . .

I wonder what Micky would think if he ever heard me singing that song after drinking a couple of beers?

" . . . les spand de nait tagator . . . "

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:43am
like father like son

:thatwassmart

Fuck Jodi and of course Allen wherever he is!

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:55am
I hope Mick is not going sue me over my cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXKn_ktIFhY

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Nellcote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 7:48am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:43am:
like father like son

:thatwassmart

Fuck Jodi and of course Allen wherever he is!

Can't say this enough.  We should rent a billboard.

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Joey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:16am
" Fuck Jodi and of course Allen wherever he is! "


Amen !!!!!

Just think of how many songs were written about or influenced by Allen Klein    --- I can only name a few right off the top of me head :  " You Never Give Me Your Money  " ,  " Who Are You  "      ---- Unfortunately those are fantastic songs .


http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/you-never-give-me-your-money/



Any others  ........................ ?!


Developing ............................................


Shiver ..................................................



Jersey

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by gimmekeef on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 9:37am
so Mercedes pays them millions for SFTD commercial but this has to be stopped....??

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:11pm
Good for Mick & Keith! Allen Klein's people can eat shit as far as I'm concerned.

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Paranoid Android on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 3:56pm

Heart Of Stone wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:55am:
I hope Mick is not going sue me over my cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXKn_ktIFhY



I don't think the Stones can sue...but ASCAP probobly can...i had to testify before a deposition for cover bands at the bar i used to manage...not a pleasant time...

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Gazza on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:57pm
Just right, too.

Musicals are shite.

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by gimmekeef on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:12pm

Gazza wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:57pm:
Just right, too.

Musicals are shite.


The Fields are alive...with the sound of bullshi......Musicals?.......agreed a waste

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Patrick on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:27pm
Surely there's not much they can do (legally) if Klein owns the copyright in the song?

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by gorda on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:59pm
Sometimes, artists do not realize that the more exposure their music gets, the more CDs, they sell?  It's like a commercial!  The musical will promote their music!

On many occasions, I'll be watching a movie or a TV show and a song will come out.  Later on, I will go out and buy the CD just because I heard the song!

In fact, many up and coming artists try to get their single to be the theme song to a telenovela, because they know this will boost up their sales.

In fact, the only reason, I have Enrique Iglesias and Alexandre Pires CDs in my collection, is because I heard their songs as the theme for a telenovela.  Prior to hearing their music on the telenovela, I had no idea who these singers were.

Theme song to "Lo Que Es El Amor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs98oe9vjs

Theme song to "Marisol"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isGmsSwy3EM

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Bitch on Mar 9th, 2013 at 7:41pm
Gorda I have to agree with you, its free publicity and as long as there is nothing negative about the Stones in the play, why protest? Because even if the Stones arent making any DIRECT money, they stand a good chance of making future fans and that translates into money from tours, merchandise, music, DVD's etc. Its a new reason for people to go and buy Stones stuff.

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Gazza on Mar 9th, 2013 at 8:16pm

gorda wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:59pm:
Sometimes, artists do not realize that the more exposure their music gets, the more CDs, they sell?  It's like a commercial!  The musical will promote their music!

On many occasions, I'll be watching a movie or a TV show and a song will come out.  Later on, I will go out and buy the CD just because I heard the song!

In fact, many up and coming artists try to get their single to be the theme song to a telenovela, because they know this will boost up their sales.

In fact, the only reason, I have Enrique Iglesias and Alexandre Pires CDs in my collection, is because I heard their songs as the theme for a telenovela.  Prior to hearing their music on the telenovela, I had no idea who these singers were.

Theme song to "Lo Que Es El Amor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs98oe9vjs

Theme song to "Marisol"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isGmsSwy3EM



True ,  but counter that withe the fact this is a band who, when you go to their concerts, will bombard you with overpriced T-shirts, ridiculous degrading kitsch like bobbled headed dolls and anything they can put a tongue logo on - but it seems that the only thing you CANT buy at a Rolling Stones concert is ..... the Rolling Stones' music.


Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Bitch on Mar 10th, 2013 at 12:35am
Yeah they should take a tip from the Grateful Dead band Furthur. At the end of each show you can buy the "official" bootleg, and its not very expensive ($25 I think). A nice way to keep some quality control and make the fans happy at the same time.

Title: Re: Stones threatening legal action over musical
Post by Gimme Shelter on Mar 10th, 2013 at 12:56am
The Who do that too. I love that.

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