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Message started by Edith Grove on Feb 11th, 2013 at 5:07am

Title: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Edith Grove on Feb 11th, 2013 at 5:07am
20 YEARS AGO: MICK JAGGER’S ‘WANDERING SPIRIT’ RELEASED
by Matthew Wilkening



Atlantic


It took him three tries, but on Feb. 8, 1993 Mick Jagger finally released a solo album Rolling Stones fans could fully get behind: ‘Wandering Spirit.’

On his previous two efforts — 1985′s ‘She’s the Boss’ and 1987′s ‘Primitive Cool’ — Jagger was seemingly too concerned with reaching a wider, pop-loving audience. Perhaps this was to prove he didn’t need longtime Stones partner Keith Richards, with whom he was feuding with quite publicly at the time.

But after the pair mended fences to release 1989′s ‘Steel Wheels’ and mount a year-long Stones tour, Jagger was free to express himself without any such pressure. As he put it, “I was very relaxed about this record. No overall atmosphere of hostility. The rest of the Stones had all made solo LP’s. Charlie (Watts) made his Charlie Parker album. Keith made his second solo album and Ronnie (Wood) made a record. Even Bill (Wyman) made a record. In the process of writing my record there were a couple of songs where I said, ‘That’s going to sound great with the Stones,’ so I won’t use it.”

Although ‘Wandering Spirit’ thankfully sees Jagger abandoning the slick keyboard-tinged sounds of his previous records for a raw, guitar-based palette, he doesn’t consider it a straight-up rock album: “If you look at it, there are only maybe three rock songs on it in the traditional form. The rest is R&B, or country, or gospel influenced, or rockabilly, or whatever.”

Indeed, the album showcases Jagger’s abilities in those genres quite nicely, from the covers of R&B classics such as Bill Withers’ ‘Use Me’ and ‘Think’ (made famous by James Brown) to the country-leaning ‘Hang On to Me Tonight’ and the gospel-inspired chorus of the title track. It also finds him stubbornly (and quite successfully) sticking to his love of dance-rock with the album’s lead single, ‘Sweet Thing.’

The only way the album could be considered a failure was if Jagger’s primary goal was to once again avoid clashing with his lead collaborator, in this case producer Rick Rubin. The pair apparently bumped heads more than once during the recording process. As Rubin told the Los Angeles Times, “At one point while we were making the record, Mick pulled me out of the control room and talked to me in the hallway… one of the things he told me in that conversation was I was worse than Keith (Richards). I took that as a compliment. That was the nature of the relationship, and I definitely think good things came out of it.”

Interestingly, there was reportedly another, completely different album created during this time period. Jagger recorded 13 tracks of rough-hewn blues classics with a group known as the Red Devils in a marathon one-day recording session in May 1992. So far only one song from those sessions, ‘Checking Up On My Baby,’ was released, as part of Jagger’s 2007 ‘The Very Best of…” collection.

As recently as 1997, Rubin was still lobbying publicly for the full record, apparently named ‘King King,’ to be released: “It’s incredible, (but) it’s up to Mick. He’s the artist… he gets to do what he wants to do. But it’s great, and I hope it comes out.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQEFlJhkhA8&feature=player_embedded




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Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Steel Wheels on Feb 11th, 2013 at 6:50am
The album is a must-own. It's lots of fun to turn it up and let 'er rip. It does look like it's out of print though, so find a cheap copy on Ebay or at a flea market.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Gazza on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:00am
20 years - christ. That would be about right. He played two songs from it on Saturday Night Live the same week as the Webster Hall gig.

Will have to dig it out again - its a very good record. Definitely his best solo album (although I think 'Goddess in the Doorway' tends to get a bit overlooked unfairly)

A lot of people would love Rick Rubin to produce a Stones album, but it'll almost certainly never happen. Rubin is on record as saying how the experience of producing Jagger was the most anti-climactic of all the big name acts he's worked with. He said something along the lines of Mick being so surrounded by yes-men pandering to his every whim that he couldn't deal with his producer coming to him and telling him 'you're capable of better lyrics than this'....

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Pdog on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:09am

Gazza wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:00am:
20 years - christ. That would be about right. He played two songs from it on Saturday Night Live the same week as the Webster Hall gig.

Will have to dig it out again - its a very good record. Definitely his best solo album (although I think 'Goddess in the Doorway' tends to get a bit overlooked unfairly)

A lot of people would love Rick Rubin to produce a Stones album, but it'll almost certainly never happen. Rubin is on record as saying how the experience of producing Jagger was the most anti-climactic of all the big name acts he's worked with. He said something along the lines of Mick being so surrounded by yes-men pandering to his every whim that he couldn't deal with his producer coming to him and telling him 'you're capable of better lyrics than this'....



I agree, great record… Jagger seems to have been a bit like people like Michael Jackson at the time. Recording in lots of studios, spending massive amounts of cash. Rubin was the only thing Jagger did right in his solo efforts, and it shows, this record is kick ass!!! Jagger learned to roll with the changing recording climate, they made A Bigger Bang on the cheap, knowing full well, the days of big sellers was over!!! It's hard to beleive, but there was a time artists would sink millions into making an album. nowadays not many artists even make that much in sales…

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Some Guy on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:29am
I won tickets on the radio to see a videocast of that concert he gave for the album release. Only time I ever won anything on the radio. I forget where it was, a small place dontown Atlanta but it was great. When we got there it was sponsored by Labatts I think. They were giving out all the free beer you could drink! It was a cool show. 20 years Wow!! They also gave out free cds. Very fun album that I haven't heard in a long time.

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Post by gorda on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:23am
I haven't heard that CD in a long time.  But, I remember some of the songs reminded me of gospel music.

Anyways, I love the front cover!  Micky!  You have definitely got it going on!

WOOOO0000oooooooo!

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by The Wick on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:27am
I loved the diversity of it as opposed to his other solo efforts but when you listen to it, you can almost feel that, apart from Sweet Thing, his heart wasn't really in it. The songs are actually some of the best songs he's ever put together but there is that same type of vibe of resistance he put up against Voodoo Lounge. I just don't think his heart was ever completely into it. At that time, Rick Rubin's style was to go very raw and get some very core sounds out of records. Mick didn't seem to totally buy into it so you get something a bit soft in the end. The best song in terms of the energy and his heart being into it is Sweet Thing and it sounds like the one song Mick got his way with. Nonetheless, I think that even with the tension, that song would have sounded worse on any one of his other albums.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Some Guy on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:42am
If you could have somehow, someway taken Wandering Spirit and combined it with Talk is Cheap and had The Stones record it. It would have been the best Stones album ever in history without a doubt.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by munichhilton on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:56am
I have always thought the combo idea would have been a great Stones LP.

Wandering into Cheap.

The problem I have with it is you'd have Mick singing songs like How I Wish and Could Have Stood You Up.
I want Keith singing those songs.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Some Guy on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:20am

munichhilton wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:56am:
I have always thought the combo idea would have been a great Stones LP.

Wandering into Cheap.

The problem I have with it is you'd have Mick singing songs like How I Wish and Could Have Stood You Up.
I want Keith singing those songs.

But then you would have had Mick singing Take It So Hard with The Boys backing him. Damn! That had to really piss off Mick that Keef released that song solo.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Joey on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:46am
" It took him three tries, but on Feb. 8, 1993 Mick Jagger finally released a solo album Rolling Stones fans could fully get behind: ‘Wandering Spirit.’  "


Wandering Spirit ROCKS    ......... and so does Goddess in the Doorway .

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Gazza on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:48am

Some Guy wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:42am:
If you could have somehow, someway taken Wandering Spirit and combined it with Talk is Cheap and had The Stones record it. It would have been the best Stones album ever in history without a doubt.



"Talk is Cheap" was recorded in 1987-88. It pre-dated 'Steel Wheels'.

Presume you mean 'Main Offender' which was recorded around the same time as 'Wandering Spirit' and came out about 3-4 months before it.

Good series of solo albums around that time. Ronnie's "Slide On This" - which came out just after Keith's - was a pretty solid effort, too.

Then again, Mick singing "You Dont Move Me" from 'Talk is Cheap' would have been quite funny  !!

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Some Guy on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:59am

Gazza wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Some Guy wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:42am:
If you could have somehow, someway taken Wandering Spirit and combined it with Talk is Cheap and had The Stones record it. It would have been the best Stones album ever in history without a doubt.



"Talk is Cheap" was recorded in 1987-88. It pre-dated 'Steel Wheels'.

Presume you mean 'Main Offender' which was recorded around the same time as 'Wandering Spirit' and came out about 3-4 months before it.

Good series of solo albums around that time. Ronnie's "Slide On This" - which came out just after Keith's - was a pretty solid effort, too.

Then again, Mick singing "You Dont Move Me" from 'Talk is Cheap' would have been quite funny  !!

I haven't worked out all the details yet [smiley=wink.gif]

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by BILL PERKS on Feb 11th, 2013 at 11:06am
IT'S GREAT,WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DONT TEAR ME UP.
RUBIN KICKED MICK IN THE ASS,THATS WHY THEY BUTTED HEADS.MICK LIKES YES MEN.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by munichhilton on Feb 11th, 2013 at 12:07pm

Some Guy wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:59am:

Gazza wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Some Guy wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 9:42am:
If you could have somehow, someway taken Wandering Spirit and combined it with Talk is Cheap and had The Stones record it. It would have been the best Stones album ever in history without a doubt.



"Talk is Cheap" was recorded in 1987-88. It pre-dated 'Steel Wheels'.

Presume you mean 'Main Offender' which was recorded around the same time as 'Wandering Spirit' and came out about 3-4 months before it.

Good series of solo albums around that time. Ronnie's "Slide On This" - which came out just after Keith's - was a pretty solid effort, too.

Then again, Mick singing "You Dont Move Me" from 'Talk is Cheap' would have been quite funny  !!

I haven't worked out all the details yet [smiley=wink.gif]



Ok, so Wandering Offender.
I still need Keith singing "Wicked As It Seems"...and they would have to can "Love Is Strong" because of a conflict.
Demon? Keith needs to sing that too

I'm starting to lose faith in this hypothetical project...

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by sirmoonie on Feb 11th, 2013 at 12:50pm
Good album.  Several songs on there shine.  And yeah, you can't help but wish sometimes that much of it didn't get on to a Stones record, mixed with Main Offender.

Can't figure how I feel about Handsome Molly......

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by CS on Feb 11th, 2013 at 1:41pm
I have the CD, heard it a few times and can't remember a song from it

:stinkypost :nomames :thatwassmart :wtf2 :retarded :will-ya :blankfriggingstare1

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Post by gimmekeef on Feb 11th, 2013 at 2:40pm
Stones wise...Ronnie's 'Ive Got My Own Album To Do" is tough to beat.......some great live possibilities there for the band to let Ronnie shine......

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Some Guy on Feb 11th, 2013 at 3:01pm
Song of '93, see below-

http://youtu.be/UhLBCsyzG5U


This was the show I saw-

http://youtu.be/Ewy86DlhxHI

Jagger fucking kills it!!

http://youtu.be/TujpsDGgiKA


The baddest motherfucker on Erff...

http://youtu.be/Jk4Jltk3wU0




Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by mojoman on Feb 11th, 2013 at 5:21pm
like calling an escort service when i'm away from home........

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by lavendar on Feb 11th, 2013 at 8:08pm

Some Guy wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:29am:
I won tickets on the radio to see a videocast of that concert he gave for the album release. Only time I ever won anything on the radio. I forget where it was, a small place dontown Atlanta but it was great. When we got there it was sponsored by Labatts I think. They were giving out all the free beer you could drink! It was a cool show. 20 years Wow!! They also gave out free cds. Very fun album that I haven't heard in a long time.


What Fun!!!!

Wandering Spirit is nothing but a plus ++++++++++++++

I'm not so familiar with Primitive Cool.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Bitch on Feb 12th, 2013 at 6:54am
Dont Tear Me Up is one of my all time favorite songs. Also Evening Gown is very pretty. Overall, it's good! I think you can still buy the CDs on Mickjagger.com. I used to post there when there was a message board. It was really catty, lots of MICK chicks fighting all the time!

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Post by Egon on Feb 12th, 2013 at 7:00am

Bitch wrote on Feb 12th, 2013 at 6:54am:
Dont Tear Me Up is one of my all time favorite songs. Also Evening Gown is very pretty. Overall, it's good! I think you can still buy the CDs on Mickjagger.com. I used to post there when there was a message board. It was really catty, lots of MICK chicks fighting all the time!


Them bitches was crazy.. SCARY crazy!

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Saint Sway on Feb 12th, 2013 at 11:11am
"Evening Gown" might be my favorite track from Post Steel Wheels era Stones.

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Post by Irina on Feb 13th, 2013 at 6:30am
is my favorite among all others albums of Mick

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Post by andrews27 on Feb 13th, 2013 at 8:55am
It's a good record and still holds up today, but if you play it on shuffle you might come away with the opinion that the songs should be in a different order for better effect.

Title: Re: What's Your Opinion of Wandering Spirit ??
Post by Gimme Shelter on Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:02am
I love that album :wtf2

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Post by Jumacfly on Feb 18th, 2013 at 9:30am
Ws is , IMHO, the best stones related project of the 90’s.
Songs are great, extremely well produced and catchy.
Evening Gow , Wandering Spirit, Hang on to me tonight and the ballads are jewels.
Jagger never sounded better, fresh and inspired.
Jimmy Rip is a hell of a guitar player!!  :aimama

When Rubin talks about the « jagger people », Matt Clifford comes instantanely to mind. :interestingstuffronnie
and when Matt Clifford comes instantanely to mind, the slick and boring Godess in the Doorway comes next. :weed :weed :weed :weed :pukey :pukey :pukey

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