This trial will be bigger than Casey Anthony and OJ combined... this is going to be as if Casey had killed OJ, super heated and full of racism and groundbreaking legal precendents.



http://blog.al.com/wire/2012/04/report_trayvon_martin_shooter.html

he's Hispanic, no?

looks hispanic, not sure.... Zimmerman sound like a Hebrew name. no? in FL they got it all covered as far as diversity goes... newlywed and nearly dead!

2nd degree murder charges...

A lot has been written about the Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case. Here's a case not getting nearly enough press:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/strait.asp

Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 11^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

A lot has been written about the Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case. Here's a case not getting nearly enough press: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/strait.asp

what press do you feel it needs, they have the guy in custody? right, do you feel the story needs to be palyed as much as much as the Zimmerman?Martin story has? What's your point on this... are you familiar with the killing of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr? No national press on that either...

http://globalgrind.com/news/kenneth-chamberlain-sr-shot-police-during-medical-alert-video

Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 11^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

A lot has been written about the Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case. Here's a case not getting nearly enough press: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/strait.asp

This story would only merit extensive coverage if the thugs had not been arrested or charged.  As it stands, it's just another senseless crime; raising it in this context is a distraction and stinks of racism.  The use of the terms "colored" and "Negroes" in the article tips their white hand.

Pdog wrote on Apr 11^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

[quote author=Steel Wheels link=1334180495/0#4 date=1334189893] what press do you feel it needs, they have the guy in custody? right, do you feel the story needs to be palyed as much as much as the Zimmerman?Martin story has? What's your point on this... are you familiar with the killing of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr? No national press on that either...

The Chamberlain case is one that does deserve attention.  Notice the similarities to the infamous confrontation between Prof. Skip Gates and the Cambridge cops.  A black man isn't safe from the police in the USA; even in his own home.
Brainy

I heard somewhere that zimmermans lawyers that quit said some things on tv that would get the case thrown out or something.

Some Guy wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 6:42am:

I heard somewhere that zimmermans lawyers that quit said some things on tv that would get the case thrown out or something.

Lawyers only quit a case for one reason....they werent getting paid.....or someone else offered more

Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family.

it's a sham of a travesty and a travesty of a sham.

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

Some Guy wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 6:42am: I heard somewhere that zimmermans lawyers that quit said some things on tv that would get the case thrown out or something. Lawyers only quit a case for one reason....they werent getting paid.....or someone else offered more

The former most likely. Agree this case will be three ring circus. It's fucking Florida. Everything there is a circus. :areyoufuckingserious

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

The former most likely. Agree this case will be three ring circus. It's fucking Florida. Everything there is a circus. :areyoufuckingserious

I can vouch for that.

49 people were shot in Chicago during the St. Patrick's Day weekend. At least 10 of those shootings resulted in death. One of the deaths was that of a 6 year old girl. Why has this gotten little to no coverage? Because all the victims and all of the alleged shooters were black. It does not play into the liberal narrative of blacks as victims. Yet, George Zimmerman is the most hated man in the black community. This idiocy is promoted by the DOJ and the WH. Welcome to this Obamanation!

What happened to Trayvon Martin is a tragedy. However, is it anymore of a tragedy than the 1000's of young blacks that are killed annually by other blacks? Of course not, but it gives Shakedown Al Sharpton and Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson something to latch onto and rally the inner city African American base around. Namely this,-white folks hate you, and you must vote for Obummer to protect you. It's fucking pathetic.


Could it be to distract attention from the fact that black unemployment is at a record high of 25.2% since The Great Divider Obummer took office (It's actually higher now btw)? Gee, ya think?!

http://www.floridapoliticalpress.com/2011/09/02/black-unemployment-up-25-2-since-obama-became-president/



He sucks. I knew he would. He does. Everyone that has any ability at independent thought knows it. Deal with it!  



Oh, and since when has the media ever used the term "white Hispanic"? Gee, I wonder why they would say that? Pathetic!

One and done.

ABO 2012!


Riffy

Actually this case attained mass hysteria not because of Washington but the fact the police chose to not even arrest a man who had just shot and killed an unarmed teen. Had they done that and allowed the justice system to take its course and decide based on the facts it would be just another story.

Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family.

one huge diffenrece... charges filed for the killings and cases were they weren't or hadn't been... as was the case with Martins killing until just yesterday, when arrest and charges were made... that is why people get upset over race, not because of the crime, but the investigation or lack of... in the USA violent crimes are rampant... and if you look at the stats, most murders that are commited and prosecuted are same race on same race... black edging out white something like a 10% more (fear of blacks to be discussed soon)... both are very high numbers... we live in a very violent society... anyone whose response to the Zimmerman arrest and that an unarmed teenager was killed with there's blacks killing whites, sickens me... the young man was killed b/c of his color, his skin color created fear in his killer aka prejudice... the whole point of this neighborhood watch was they were looking for black males who apparently had been robbing homes and people... the police allowing Zimmerman to walk after, was a travesty. Allowing the boys body to sit 3 days, a travesty... his family didn't know where he was... his fathers girlfriend lived on the complex he was killed in... he was there often...  if your repsonse to this travesty, is to point out how white people have been killed in crimes by black people, than there is something very, very wrong with you... and if you don't see it, please start a new thread... this thread was to be on the arrest and trial, and folow the develpoments, race has been an issue, this is about how race played into this event... but this isn't meant to debate if racism exists... save that for somewhere else, please... this case will be huge, especially to our youth, who have gone well beyond race, sexuality and many other of the old vanguards ism's... this case will help bring out current laws into what our culture has begun  to move away from, which is our old prejudices... it's clear by some responses, people like to respond with what is commonly used as the Fox News driven idea, that black people are scary and if they are discriminated against, we will show you just how afraid of them you should be, because they commit crimes against very nice law abiding white people... you make me sick with your foulness.. May travoyn watch over and protect you all!
p.s. this isn't about being liberal as well... that is a load... I don't know one conservative he feels this issue is driven by politcs, and all agree it was a racist act... welcome to Texas, we stand our ground here too... we don't take kidly to idiots! please move along!

With all due respect gimmekeef. Obama inserted himself into this by claiming, "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." Not only that, but the DOJ, Eric Holder (the most racist AG ever!) has completely ignored the very real, and repeated threats, put on the life of George Zimmerman. They put a bounty on his head FFS, and from the DOJ? Crickets. Add the media's blatant disgusting love affair with Obama and their twisting of the facts, and despicable editing of the 911 call, and you can easily see what they are doing, and why they are doing it. They are laying the narrative for the angle they want the public to believe. That narrative is highly biased and is designed to fan the flames of racial outrage, and to reinvigorate the African American base of the Dem party. It's all politics. Every last bit of it!

It's pathetic, but it's predictable. This fucking clown of a president is trying to divide this country as much as possible. From the bullshit made up "war on women", to the worse case of class warfare I've ever seen from a president. He wants blacks against whites (or white/Hispanics), poor against rich, illegal immigrant against natural citizen, unions vs right to work states, gay against straight, and on, and on, and on.............He sucks. I knew he would. He does.

WORST PRESIDENT EVER! NOT EVEN CLOSE!



Riffy

Pdog, don't point me out.  All I did was post a link to another sad news story.  Read into it what you want.

I do think it's interesting that you don't even know that much about Zimmerman. He's 50% white, 50% Hispanic. It's in many articles. Why you speculate about him being Hebrew or not I don't understand.

Pdog wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 8:18am: Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family. the young man was killed b/c of his color, his skin color created fear in his killer aka prejudice... the whole point of this neighborhood watch was they were looking for black males who apparently had been robbing homes and people... the police allowing Zimmerman to walk after, was a travesty.... it's clear by some responses, people like to respond with what is commonly used as the Fox News driven idea, that black people are scary and if they are discriminated against, we will show you just how afraid of them you should be, because they commit crimes against very nice law abiding white people... you make me sick with your foulness..

Complete speculation of which you have exactly zero facts to back up your very slanted argument. Zimmerman tutored black children in his spare time. Hardly the MO for a racist. Fox News drives the idea that black people are scary? Wow! You drink deeply of the stereotypical liberal Kool Aid! I've never once seen Fox News do that at all! Not once! Ever!


I have seen MSNBC claim that the GOP hates gays, blacks, immigrants, women, muslims,...........never on Fox, but almost exclusively on MSNBC do I see this kind of intentional division.



Riffy

Cut it out!! Cut it out!! Cut it out!! The hell's the matter with you? Stupid! We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw "Old Yeller?" Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?

Some Guy wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:45pm:

You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse.

I thought that was Australia.  :forfucksake

LOL! Yes that was Australia! I love Australia!



Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

Pdog wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:15pm: Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 8:18am: Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family. the young man was killed b/c of his color, his skin color created fear in his killer aka prejudice... the whole point of this neighborhood watch was they were looking for black males who apparently had been robbing homes and people... the police allowing Zimmerman to walk after, was a travesty.... it's clear by some responses, people like to respond with what is commonly used as the Fox News driven idea, that black people are scary and if they are discriminated against, we will show you just how afraid of them you should be, because they commit crimes against very nice law abiding white people... you make me sick with your foulness.. Complete speculation of which you have exactly zero facts to back up your very slanted argument. Zimmerman tutored black children in his spare time. Hardly the MO for a racist. Fox News drives the idea that black people are scary? Wow! You drink deeply of the stereotypical liberal Kool Aid! I've never once seen Fox News do that at all! Not once! Ever! I have seen MSNBC claim that the GOP hates gays, blacks, immigrants, women, muslims,...........never on Fox, but almost exclusively on MSNBC do I see this kind of intentional division. Riffy

Tutoring, is that what he was doing that night... alone in his car, with a gun... calling 911 b/c a kid walked by eating skittles wearing a hoodie in the rain... shooting a kid in the back, we all earned a huge lesson from that tutor... maybe the lesson is... don't be suspicious looking around complete fucking nutjobs! Blame the victim... I love it... Make the killer look like a good guy... good job Riffy... I bet knowing the kid smoked weed really bugs you, seeing how you would never do that when you were a teen... or even now as an adult. naything else about Zimmerman should we know, did he work on curing cancer, help old ladies cross the street... don't matter, he assasinated an unarmed kid... hunted and stalked his victim... defend away! You think he would have called the police if a white kid had walked by eating candy and drinking sweet tea?
with heavy sarcasm and complete contempt for what you're defending... no signs of any of those things you mentioned in GOP policy and lawmaking and especially not in the GOP race for nomination, like Santorum or Gingrich for example...

All BS sarcasm aside... Fox News completely drives the narrative of reverse racism, whenever an event like this takes place... No slant at all. If this was a black man killing a white child, this is a different event altogether... you make the point by doing that here in your post about a shooting on St Patty's day...
I hope you don't feel the need to resort back to your political rants, which you have begun already... you could ruin a picnic on a perfect summer day with Van Halen playing and the brew flowing freely with your belly moaning about how unfairly rich white people have it... you defend the undefensible, with great vigor, I will give you that much... I could see you in the crowd that was calling for a dictaor after FDR beat Hoover... those who bemoaned how communism was coming and maybe national socialism could save the USA, it saved Italy... They came close too, Macarthur himself contemplted it... imagine that... he was such a bright bulb he gave away the Phillipines b/c his ego was stronger than his common sense, he loved to defy FDR, even at the expense of american lives and american interests...
History is a great way to predict the the future...
so if you get this thread locked and feel the need to bash away at the greatest president ever, Barrack Huisein Obama and his lovely wife and daughters... go ahead and remember one thing... your posts on politics, suck with teeth and I'm proabalby the only one who reads them, no one else cares dude...

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

Pdog wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:15pm: Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 8:18am: Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family. the young man was killed b/c of his color, his skin color created fear in his killer aka prejudice... the whole point of this neighborhood watch was they were looking for black males who apparently had been robbing homes and people... the police allowing Zimmerman to walk after, was a travesty.... it's clear by some responses, people like to respond with what is commonly used as the Fox News driven idea, that black people are scary and if they are discriminated against, we will show you just how afraid of them you should be, because they commit crimes against very nice law abiding white people... you make me sick with your foulness.. Complete speculation of which you have exactly zero facts to back up your very slanted argument. Zimmerman tutored black children in his spare time. Hardly the MO for a racist. Fox News drives the idea that black people are scary? Wow! You drink deeply of the stereotypical liberal Kool Aid! I've never once seen Fox News do that at all! Not once! Ever! I have seen MSNBC claim that the GOP hates gays, blacks, immigrants, women, muslims,...........never on Fox, but almost exclusively on MSNBC do I see this kind of intentional division. Riffy

Riffy? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newt-gingrich-cnn-less-biased-fox-news-141511492.html

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

With all due respect gimmekeef. Obama inserted himself into this by claiming, "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." Not only that, but the DOJ, Eric Holder (the most racist AG ever!) has completely ignored the very real, and repeated threats, put on the life of George Zimmerman. They put a bounty on his head FFS, and from the DOJ? Crickets. Add the media's blatant disgusting love affair with Obama and their twisting of the facts, and despicable editing of the 911 call, and you can easily see what they are doing, and why they are doing it. They are laying the narrative for the angle they want the public to believe. That narrative is highly biased and is designed to fan the flames of racial outrage, and to reinvigorate the African American base of the Dem party. It's all politics. Every last bit of it! It's pathetic, but it's predictable. This fucking clown of a president is trying to divide this country as much as possible. From the bullshit made up "war on women", to the worse case of class warfare I've ever seen from a president. He wants blacks against whites (or white/Hispanics), poor against rich, illegal immigrant against natural citizen, unions vs right to work states, gay against straight, and on, and on, and on.............He sucks. I knew he would. He does. WORST PRESIDENT EVER! NOT EVEN CLOSE! Riffy

and come November you can do something about your feelings.....

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:35pm: Pdog wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:15pm: Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 8:18am: Violence against veterans is rarely played out in the press in the US.  The Chamberlain family won't get any more notice than the Strait family. the young man was killed b/c of his color, his skin color created fear in his killer aka prejudice... the whole point of this neighborhood watch was they were looking for black males who apparently had been robbing homes and people... the police allowing Zimmerman to walk after, was a travesty.... it's clear by some responses, people like to respond with what is commonly used as the Fox News driven idea, that black people are scary and if they are discriminated against, we will show you just how afraid of them you should be, because they commit crimes against very nice law abiding white people... you make me sick with your foulness.. Complete speculation of which you have exactly zero facts to back up your very slanted argument. Zimmerman tutored black children in his spare time. Hardly the MO for a racist. Fox News drives the idea that black people are scary? Wow! You drink deeply of the stereotypical liberal Kool Aid! I've never once seen Fox News do that at all! Not once! Ever! I have seen MSNBC claim that the GOP hates gays, blacks, immigrants, women, muslims,...........never on Fox, but almost exclusively on MSNBC do I see this kind of intentional division. Riffy Riffy? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newt-gingrich-cnn-less-biased-fox-news-141511492.html

I only watch CNN if i watch any of the big three... I rarely watch MSNBC and fox is purely comedic... as in I watch those great comedians who watch Fox News and point out the absurdity of Fox and those who follow suit... Been a while since our Fox News like pundit posted their rhetoric...

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:22pm: With all due respect gimmekeef. Obama inserted himself into this by claiming, "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." Not only that, but the DOJ, Eric Holder (the most racist AG ever!) has completely ignored the very real, and repeated threats, put on the life of George Zimmerman. They put a bounty on his head FFS, and from the DOJ? Crickets. Add the media's blatant disgusting love affair with Obama and their twisting of the facts, and despicable editing of the 911 call, and you can easily see what they are doing, and why they are doing it. They are laying the narrative for the angle they want the public to believe. That narrative is highly biased and is designed to fan the flames of racial outrage, and to reinvigorate the African American base of the Dem party. It's all politics. Every last bit of it! It's pathetic, but it's predictable. This fucking clown of a president is trying to divide this country as much as possible. From the bullshit made up "war on women", to the worse case of class warfare I've ever seen from a president. He wants blacks against whites (or white/Hispanics), poor against rich, illegal immigrant against natural citizen, unions vs right to work states, gay against straight, and on, and on, and on.............He sucks. I knew he would. He does. WORST PRESIDENT EVER! NOT EVEN CLOSE! Riffy and come November you can do something about your feelings.....

Romney 2012...
worst GOP choice, if you can't stand a moderate, bi=partisan who despite being a rich boy, actually has some decent policies regarding non rich and everyday folks... I can only imagine the gagging the neo-cons will have when voting for him... I'm actually glad it's Romney...

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

WORST PRESIDENT EVER? NOT EVEN CLOSE! Riffy

I agree with you 100%, Riffy.  Barack is not even close to being the worst President ever. That would be George W. Bush, of course; James Buchanan coming in a distant second.
Brainy
:nanker

Riffy for president..........Of Syria.Hafaz El Riffhard :areyoufuckingserious

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:22pm: WORST PRESIDENT EVER? NOT EVEN CLOSE! Riffy I agree with you 100%, Riffy.  Barack is not even close to being the worst President ever. That would be George W. Bush, of course; James Buchanan coming in a distant second. Brainy :nanker

Hoover was pretty bad... he screwed over WWI vets, ignored the plights of poor americans and from what I heard, was all for stand your ground laws!!!

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Riffy for president..........Of Syria.Hafaz El Riffhard :areyoufuckingserious

He will stand his ground...

I'm out of this thread. Before I go though, Martin was not shot in the back. I will wait until the trial and the details come out before I cast judgment on Zimmerman. That's what fair minded people do. I do know that Eric Holder will not prosecute "his people" though. So any chance of the New and Improved Black Panthers being rightfully prosecuted will be ignored by that piece of shit racist bastard.


Oh, and Barack Obama is hands down the worst president ever. He sucks on every single level. That is all.


November can't get here fast enough. My dog left better presidential material on our lawn this morning than this rank amateur community organizer Marxist fuckstick. Deny it all you want BJ, but "your friend" is the most decisive president in history, and he, and he alone, has created a debt that is going to destroy future generations for decades to come. He's fucking my kids over!!!!! Fuck him.


I knew he would suck. He sucks. I told you so.



Riffy

http://ooyes.net/userfiles/media/downloaded/37-super-cool-etch-a-sketch-drawings-2009071606101610-obamasketch_jpg.jpg

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Riffhard wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 6:21pm:

I'm out of this thread.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l83/pdogsf/483256_10150696124121940_78248156939_9406958_1640897064_n.jpg

with all due respect to both brainy and riffy, anyone who knows anything about presidential history traditionally ranks warren g harding near the bottom of the list, as well as the idiots who got themselves elected to the presidency (or, in the case of fillmore, stumbled into the office due to the death of his predecessor) before the civil war. fillmore, pierce and especially that rat bastard bachelor buchanan did absolutely nothing to slow down the march towards civil war; buchanan couldn't wait to dump all the problems of the nation on the next guy....thankfully, the next guy turned out to be one of the best we've had.

you can hardly compare barry or bush to those idiots, especially seeing the fact that the country was falling apart at the time.

I agree that I should have included Harding; Grant wasn't much good as President, either, despite his greatness as a general.
Brainy
 :loloncemore

Some Guy wrote on Apr 11^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

he's Hispanic, no?

He's a "white Hispanic" according to the totally un-biased New York Times.

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Riffhard wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:22pm: WORST PRESIDENT EVER? NOT EVEN CLOSE! Riffy I agree with you 100%, Riffy.  Barack is not even close to being the worst President ever. That would be George W. Bush, of course; James Buchanan coming in a distant second. Brainy :nanker

Bush is responsible for starting the "Arab Spring" Middle Eastern by freeing Iraqis.  But I'm sure you can think of plenty of things that GW did that outweigh that positive attribute.

Has anyone ever changed their opinion on an issue based on what people post on blogs such as this?....course not ...it's an exercise in futility....the scarcest commodity found in blogs are facts....The Martin case is a microcosm of USA/The World where the media and Twitter etc blow everything up beyond reason. Zimmerman claims he was standing his ground. Was Martin not entitled to use the same logic? Now a trial will occur and teh facts may actually now see the light of day. Unfortunately those who have already made up their mind will selectively choose those facts that best fit their position.

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 13^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

Has anyone ever changed their opinion on an issue based on what people post on blogs such as this?....course not ...it's an exercise in futility....the scarcest commodity found in blogs are facts....The Martin case is a microcosm of USA/The World where the media and Twitter etc blow everything up beyond reason. Zimmerman claims he was standing his ground. Was Martin not entitled to use the same logic? Now a trial will occur and teh facts may actually now see the light of day. Unfortunately those who have already made up their mind will selectively choose those facts that best fit their position.

I love this post. and like I said kick starting this topic, it will be a very interesting trial, it has all the ingrindients to make it sensational... but it also at the core addresses a very vague law that can grant permission to murder a person, and race is a factor, whether anyone likes it or not... the second it is addressed, everyone either points out the 911 calls or other crimes involving race... this is America... we all can get sucked into the politcal vortex, especially since it was  done to call out grandstanders while grandstanding, who doesn't like that dog and pony show?  I thin kit's very good that every american is aware of this, especially those who I see blaming the media, the president talking about black crimes... it points out how much fear we still have...
this case will raise anyone willing to look at themselves, to see if they live in fear... not rational fear, like if you actually are in danger... the fear that drives you to carry a gun and sit in a car, call the police when no srime has occurred... and in the end an unarmed child is killed... what happened in between, was fear... we know the child was in fear, whether he ran from his killer or attacked them, he did so out of fear... I know real fear and imagined fear... and the matter of law in this case, will hopefully address this, it should be interesting... stand your ground could be a law that saves lives, but in this case, it was used to improperly, you can not call 911 get out of your car carrying a weapon and claim self defense... hence, we have 2nd degree murder charges...
Regard;ess of the trila, i as a person do get to decide and have my own opinion, even if it goes against the law. What I do know is Zimmerman killed a child, that is known and already on record. Do I think he murdered the child on purpose...? My answer is, based on prejudice and fear, yes he did... and it goes beyond racial profiling... fear is so deep, that we don't see it and can't admit it.  that is Zimmermans burden, not mine. He was pissed at someone, punks and people getting away as he said on his call... that's prejudice enough for me, not racist... there's a difference... most racism, like I said, is deep, we don't even see how the fear drives us when we living in fear based on an idea we have had our entire lives.
I am going to look forwar and follow this close, and I will request again, civility and respect the mods on abusive political rants and attacks... this thread isn't about Romney vs Obama or which prez was worst... I do understand we have a history of racism in america, and it will come up.. but please, be nice!
Let's respect that George Zimmerman, probably feels like shit and knows he made a huge mistake and Travon is dead, forever... these are two peoples lives one gone another ruined and countless family and friends hurt... let's not add to the pain.

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 13^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

Has anyone ever changed their opinion on an issue based on what people post on blogs such as this?....course not ...it's an exercise in futility....the scarcest commodity found in blogs are facts....The Martin case is a microcosm of USA/The World where the media and Twitter etc blow everything up beyond reason. Zimmerman claims he was standing his ground. Was Martin not entitled to use the same logic? Now a trial will occur and teh facts may actually now see the light of day. Unfortunately those who have already made up their mind will selectively choose those facts that best fit their position.

Well said GK.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 13^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 13th, 2012 at 7:59am: Has anyone ever changed their opinion on an issue based on what people post on blogs such as this?....course not ...it's an exercise in futility....the scarcest commodity found in blogs are facts....The Martin case is a microcosm of USA/The World where the media and Twitter etc blow everything up beyond reason. Zimmerman claims he was standing his ground. Was Martin not entitled to use the same logic? Now a trial will occur and teh facts may actually now see the light of day. Unfortunately those who have already made up their mind will selectively choose those facts that best fit their position. Well said GK.

it's that new weed!