Keith supposedly had a slew of songs and was working in the studio about four or five months or so back back with producer / musician Steve Jordan on these items. Charlie mentioned that Keith is doing a record (or records ) very recently in an interview. Keith said he was going to let Jagger hear the songs to see if he was interested in contributing to them for Stones songs and if he wasn't he was going to keep them and continue working on them himself.

What became of this? It would be very bad, and cumbersome timing for him to try and release it as anything solo this spring or summer with all the supposed Stones doings (whatever they may entail). Did he shelf this material or what became of all this? Anyone have a clue?


- Ian

Taking his time, I guess. Maybe he needs to be locked down for the weekend, thats how it all began, I think Andrew Loog Oldham is still alive and available! ;D

Bitch wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:07pm:

Taking his time, I guess. Maybe he needs to be locked down for the weekend, thats how it all began, I think Andrew Loog Oldham is still alive and available! ;D

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He-he... i hear ya Lady "Bitch"..  whether they 20 or 70 .. I suppose someone has to kick them into gear every now and again.
Hahaha  ;)


Ian

Maybe he is writing another book ? "Life with Winos "

:stinkypost

Keith is a big shit-talker.

Time will tell if any of this actually comes to fruition.

He said the songs were in the trad style of Chess Records. Don't know if he meant the songs themselves, or the way he was recording them...

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:29pm:

Keith supposedly had a slew of songs and was working in the studio about four or five months or so back back with producer / musician Steve Jordan on these items. Charlie mentioned that Keith is doing a record (or records ) very recently in an interview. Keith said he was going to let Jagger hear the songs to see if he was interested in contributing to them for Stones songs and if he wasn't he was going to keep them and continue working on them himself. What became of this? It would be very bad, and cumbersome timing for him to try and release it as anything solo this spring or summer with all the supposed Stones doings (whatever they may entail). Did he shelf this material or what became of all this? Anyone have a clue? - Ian

Keith's never made a record thats been released that quick after he started recording it. He's notoriously slow.

About a year is the norm, going by the two Winos records.

I had my doubts at the time as to whether he was making a full length album, and still do.

Maybe he was just working on some songs that the Stones might do at some point.  I wouldn't hold my breath, though.  

Saying that, Pierre de Beauport has made a few cryptic comments on facebook about working in the studio in the last couple of months, so who knows.

Bitch wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:07pm:

Taking his time, I guess. Maybe he needs to be locked down for the weekend, thats how it all began, I think Andrew Loog Oldham is still alive and available! ;D

....and living in Colombia.

A part of the world where it might be best to keep Keith away from!

Keith is out of time !

would it be possible he just warmed up with Wino buddies prior to the London jam session with the Stones?....if was really laying down tracks he would have been spotted or reported in a studio for at least a few weeks??

Gazza wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:29pm: Keith supposedly had a slew of songs and was working in the studio about four or five months or so back back with producer / musician Steve Jordan on these items. Charlie mentioned that Keith is doing a record (or records ) very recently in an interview. Keith said he was going to let Jagger hear the songs to see if he was interested in contributing to them for Stones songs and if he wasn't he was going to keep them and continue working on them himself. What became of this? It would be very bad, and cumbersome timing for him to try and release it as anything solo this spring or summer with all the supposed Stones doings (whatever they may entail). Did he shelf this material or what became of all this? Anyone have a clue? - Ian   Saying that, Pierre de Beauport has made a few cryptic comments on facebook about working in the studio in the last couple of months, so who knows.

I've noticed Pierre is big on making cryptic statements. Not sure they all have to do with the Stones. Like today's:
All kinds of Fun this week............

He snorted it!

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 7:51am:

would it be possible he just warmed up with Wino buddies prior to the London jam session with the Stones?....if was really laying down tracks he would have been spotted or reported in a studio for at least a few weeks??

Wouldnt it make more sense to be the other way round?

He WAS seen in a studio last summer. I've seen at least one photo.

He was in the studio as recently as a few months ago.  An article appeared by two rap idiots who actually smoked up with Keith. I refused to post it because it was a lame interview.

I think Keith can do what he wants when he wants. Right now he's just not that into music and performing.

there will be another Pirate movie before a Keith solo album.........such is life these days

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

there will be another Pirate movie before a Keith solo album.........such is life these days

There'll probably be another 'Godfather' movie before a Keith solo album, if you ask me!

I like The Winos. Tell Me theyre coming back...

Bitch wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:07pm:

Taking his time, I guess. Maybe he needs to be locked down for the weekend, thats how it all began, I think Andrew Loog Oldham is still alive and available! ;D

Andrew has a great life... his show on Sirius ch. 21 is fantastic... so glad he didn't die from all the drugs, he's a true legend... Keith ain't doing squat!!!

Edith Grove wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:35am:

a big shit-talker.

Southern slang! Love it! Us northeners say 'talks alotta shit'  :D

Pdog wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

Bitch wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:07pm: Taking his time, I guess. Maybe he needs to be locked down for the weekend, thats how it all began, I think Andrew Loog Oldham is still alive and available! ;D Andrew has a great life... his show on Sirius ch. 21 is fantastic... so glad he didn't die from all the drugs, he's a true legend... Keith ain't doing squat!!!

Oh I dont get Sirius so I didnt know. But I thought Olhham got some incurable disease, that was years ago so apparently he is ok now! Glad to know this, I wondered about him, and what he is up to these days. Does he have a website or facebook or whatever?  I'll send him an email, maybe he needs a personal assistant!  ;D

Who knows... It's silly and despicable that The Stones have not recorded new material ... it's been since 2005 (seven friggin years) since they produced anything new from scratch. They had plenty of time to do an album. Even The Beach Boys are managing to get one out.

Kina ridiculous and seriously disappointing they are not working on things in the studio.. after all... they are not that busy doing other things now are they... ?? ..and they just sort of been hangin around and doing nothing when they could of been making an album, I am still fairly confident that they will release some new stuff this year but I am not sure to what extent -


Ian

seven year itch?

...Pretty much. Hope they have it too Bitch .. .. . :-)

No news is no news.  What are they waiting for?  The Beach Boys are really ringing the bell for their 50th anniversary tour and album. I'm getting discouraged.

We've just to wait the Keith right time.. he's slowly in absolute.. so maybe the enxt year, we'll got it.

I think, but who knows.. :nooslajaleisk

Why is it so hard to accept the fact that Keith is basically retired? Keith has said many times: he has nothing to prove. He wrote a book to clear his mental attic while he's still compos mentis. He is not a working musician right now, and doesn't even really pretend to be. He's living the life of an aging country gentleman, does not bother anyone, does not (often) seek attention. He's like George Harrison, in a way.

That said, I think he's interested in at least one more go-around.

But let's face it: It's not 1968 anymore. Hell, it's not even 1998 anymore!

Mel Belli wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

Why is it so hard to accept the fact that Keith is basically retired? Keith has said many times: he has nothing to prove. He wrote a book to clear his mental attic while he's still compos mentis. He is not a working musician right now, and doesn't even really pretend to be. He's living the life of an aging country gentleman, does not bother anyone, does not (often) seek attention. He's like George Harrison, in a way. That said, I think he's interested in at least one more go-around. But let's face it: It's not 1968 anymore. Hell, it's not even 1998 anymore!

It's not even 2008 anymore. :-?

Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

No news is no news.  What are they waiting for?  The Beach Boys are really ringing the bell for their 50th anniversary tour and album. I'm getting discouraged.

Why?

There's no comparison in terms of scale. And the Stones never announce tours this far in advance.

Maybe the Beach Boys are touring earlier in the year than the Stones are - have they even announced any dates yet?

Can't see why people are getting frantic. They probably wont play any shows for about six months at least.

Gazza wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 8:42am: No news is no news.  What are they waiting for?  The Beach Boys are really ringing the bell for their 50th anniversary tour and album. I'm getting discouraged. Why? There's no comparison in terms of scale. And the Stones never announce tours this far in advance. Maybe the Beach Boys are touring earlier in the year than the Stones are - have they even announced any dates yet? Can't see why people are getting frantic. They probably wont play any shows for about six months at least.

People are probably getting frantic,becasue any act with any remote bit of popularity left seems to be touring this year. Not everybody wants to wait around for the Stones to make a decsion.

Gazza wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Maybe the Beach Boys are touring earlier in the year than the Stones are - have they even announced any dates yet?

Tour opener is at Jazz Fest in New Orleans, Friday, April 27, billed as "The Beach Boys 50th Anniversary Reunion."

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:56am:

Gazza wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:49am: Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 8:42am: No news is no news.  What are they waiting for?  The Beach Boys are really ringing the bell for their 50th anniversary tour and album. I'm getting discouraged. Why? There's no comparison in terms of scale. And the Stones never announce tours this far in advance. Maybe the Beach Boys are touring earlier in the year than the Stones are - have they even announced any dates yet? Can't see why people are getting frantic. They probably wont play any shows for about six months at least. People are probably getting frantic,becasue any act with any remote bit of popularity left seems to be touring this year. Not everybody wants to wait around for the Stones to make a decsion.

Nor should they.

This year is only 6 weeks old. Most of those acts that have confirmed tours have done so because theyre touring in the first part of the year. The Stones haven't done so because they won't be touring until later in the year. Are Springsteen fans in the US hoping for shows that'll take place from August/September onwards worrying that they wont happen because he hasnt announced anything yet for after the Euro tour ends in July ?

What did people do in other years when the Stones didnt announce world tours until July (1981, 1989), May (1994, 2002 and 2005) and August (1997)?  All of those tours started in August-September.

MEANWHILE...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Van_Halen_-_A_Different_Kind_of_Truth.jpg





HAS BEEN UNLEASHED !

Gazza wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 12:15pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:56am: Gazza wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:49am: Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 8:42am: No news is no news.  What are they waiting for?  The Beach Boys are really ringing the bell for their 50th anniversary tour and album. I'm getting discouraged. Why? There's no comparison in terms of scale. And the Stones never announce tours this far in advance. Maybe the Beach Boys are touring earlier in the year than the Stones are - have they even announced any dates yet? Can't see why people are getting frantic. They probably wont play any shows for about six months at least. People are probably getting frantic,becasue any act with any remote bit of popularity left seems to be touring this year. Not everybody wants to wait around for the Stones to make a decsion. Nor should they. This year is only 6 weeks old. Most of those acts that have confirmed tours have done so because theyre touring in the first part of the year. The Stones haven't done so because they won't be touring until later in the year. Are Springsteen fans in the US hoping for shows that'll take place from August/September onwards worrying that they wont happen because he hasnt announced anything yet for after the Euro tour ends in July ? What did people do in other years when the Stones didnt announce world tours until July (1981, 1989), May (1994, 2002 and 2005) and August (1997)?  All of those tours started in August-September.

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Well Gazza I think the difference this time, as opposed to other years is that in those other years you mentioned we at least had word on venues being booked by now or something going on. As of right now... not a damn thing on any place. Not a damn thing about anything. As well, in those other years we were getting word on what they were up to at the time and we knew they were moving in some definitive direction by now. We may of heard of a merchandising company signing on for the event or something in the past by now ..you know...SOMETHING to let us know it was certainly going down... but now this time... zippola.. ..

This time we are quite in the dark, in fact totally clueless about what they are going to release, what type of tour it is going to be... IF they are to tour... when in general the tour will start etc. etc.

In those other years we sort of knew "generally" what was to occur and what they were doing by this point. We knew they were working on albums at the time or we would get word trickled down here and there that venues were being booked etc. etc. ...stuff like that. This time... nothing.

.. here it is February... and we do not even know even if they are going to tour yet (although most agree something is to occur and most agree they will perform).


Ian

[quote author=Ian Billen link=1328585368/25#32 date=1328755784Well Gazza I think the difference this time, as opposed to other years is that in those other years you mentioned we at least had word on venues being booked by now or something going on. As of right now... not a damn thing on any place. Not a damn thing about anything. As well, in those other years we were getting word on what they were up to at the time and we knew they were moving in some definitive direction by now. We may of heard of a merchandising company signing on for the event or something in the past by now ..you know...SOMETHING to let us know it was certainly going down... but now this time... zippola.. ..

This time we are quite in the dark, in fact totally clueless about what they are going to release, what type of tour it is going to be... IF they are to tour... when in general the tour will start etc. etc.

In those other years we sort of knew "generally" what was to occur and what they were doing by this point. We knew they were working on albums at the time or we would get word trickled down here and there that venues were being booked etc. etc. ...stuff like that. This time... nothing.

.. here it is February... and we do not even know even if they are going to tour yet (although most agree something is to occur and most agree they will perform).


Ian[/quote]


No we didnt. When did we ever hear anything this early before about venues being booked? Simply untrue, unless you're talking about brokers chancing their arm (only yesterday the Stones facebook/twitter page issued a statement warning fans not to register for a ticket broker site in Europe which listed  about ten European stadium dates which they claimed had been 'announced' for September 2012). There's always a few rumours by this stage with varying degrees of credibility. Maybe it also just depends where you look or who you talk to if you want rumours. I've heard and read several. There's no point posting them for the sake of posting them as a lot of them contradict each other and it renders it a pointless exercise. One I was told yesterday - from someone who I dont know well but who wouldnt be someone who would indulge in idle speculation - was a tour announcement in April and a US tour starting September with European dates in 2013. That may have some validity. Then again, maybe it won't. Who knows.

The only thing different so far is that we've heard nothing about them doing any recording. Which isnt a big deal as they dont need to do any in order to tour and almost certainly wont be making a new record anyway. If there had been a story that they'd been recording together, there would have been none of this angst.

Edith Grove wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:35am:

Keith is a big shit-talker.

Shit-talk is cheap!

IAN, TAKE IT AS IT COMES..PUT ON EMOTIONAL RESCUE IN THE MEANTIME..SMILE ,CAUSE IT HAPPENED.

I need something good to snap me out of my winter blues.  What would bring me out of it it some juicy news about them playing together, a tour...something.  Keith showing up at a tribute gig isn't enough.  We've usually been good at figuring out things before they happen, but now it's silent about the future. The band members are doing their thing, or not doing their thing.

And why hasn't a single picture or a bit of info surfaced about that December get together? Not one thing has come out.

All I want is to see them on stage. Give me a show. I need a Stones fix in a bad, bad way.

just don't let Keith be near any tree.

Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

We've usually been good at figuring out things before they happen, but now it's silent about the future.

Believe me. It isn't. Things are moving.  We'll know when the i's are dotted and the 't's are crossed. You will be seeing the Stones in the latter part of 2012. Things are always quiet before an announcement - thats the entire point of having one.



Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

And why hasn't a single picture or a bit of info surfaced about that December get together? Not one thing has come out.

Because it was a secret get together in a secret location. If I hadnt posted the info here (after being told not to do so for several weeks), you wouldnt have known it had even happened.  It wasnt meant to be something for public consumption. How often do you see pictures posted of a rehearsal session or a jam session unless its something that was filmed for a DVD? Not everything has to be done in the public gaze. There have been numerous sessions or get togethers down the years that havent been subject to public scrutiny. They jammed. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Believe me. It isn't. Things are moving.  We'll know when the i's are dotted and the 't's are crossed. You will be seeing the Stones in the latter part of 2012. Things are always quiet before an announcement - thats the entire point of having one.  
 
So this silence is different than the silence from the last 5 years? ::)

If it seems like I'm crazy, I must be. The older I get the more I love this band. Nothing else comes close to seeing the band on stage.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

Believe me. It isn't. Things are moving.  We'll know when the i's are dotted and the 't's are crossed. You will be seeing the Stones in the latter part of 2012. Things are always quiet before an announcement - thats the entire point of having one.     So this silence is different than the silence from the last 5 years? ::)

Only because there's been no talk about any recording - meaning that some people get more anxious as they assume nothing's going to happen at all.

Otherwise, its the same as far as I can tell.  Concert itineraries don't just materialise out of thin air.

I walked out of Maple Leaf Gardens feeling sure I would never see them again....that was July 1972....42 more shows later....I can hang in there and wait a bit more....relax gang it's coming surer than Joey's next ...............

Help Me How would we hear if they did not want the GP to hear they were starting to record, or planning to tour.
How do these thins leak out.
I'd be pissed if I was,say Mick or Keith, or  Stones Management and this S#$T WAS LEAKED Head would Roll........
Unless it was meant to be leaked........... :blankfriggingstare1

The last 5+ years have been so disappointing in terms of creativity that I don't really care either way at this point, I'm not even sure it's a good idea to launch a tour, it's going to be an embarrassment for Keith I'm afraid.

Gazza Wrote:

"There have been numerous sessions or get togethers down the years that havent been subject to public scrutiny. They jammed. Nothing more. Nothing less."


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I know they jammed. Still, I must go with my original assumption. Making sure all The Stones... INCLUDING Bill Wyman were in London, and having Mick fly in if only for a day to play at some rented out rehearsal studio just had to have some purpose or direction. Can't see them doing this for nothing or for the simple fact at wanting to jam a bit. Possibly it was an ice-breaker... possibly it was a start into something more.. but I still can't see it as a casual get together to simply play some music.  Bill hasn't been interested in that in 20 years and The Stones don't just get together and "jam" for no reason in this day and age. In the 60's and 70's sure. Not now.  


Ian

Gaza Wrote:


No we didnt. When did we ever hear anything this early before about venues being booked?

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In 1997 I heard that The Stones booked The Horseshoe stadium in Columbus for that September. I didn't even believe it at the time. I knew people who worked for The School and it had leaked out. In 2004 we already had solid word, even blurbs from Don Was that The Stones were together writing. In 94 we knew they were working on an album at this time. Stadiums would have to be booked already. A promoter would more than likely be selected for such an event... etc. etc. I realize that kina stuff is kept on the very own down / real hush-hush.... but usually there is a blurb from someone of something leaks out. My only point is that so far... no word on any of that kina stuff has leaked to any of us (besides the juicy Jam session info you gave us in which we are grateful... now give us some more juice... hehe)-



Ian

Kilroy wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Help Me How would we hear if they did not want the GP to hear they were starting to record, or planning to tour. How do these thins leak out. I'd be pissed if I was,say Mick or Keith, or  Stones Management and this S#$T WAS LEAKED Head would Roll........ Unless it was meant to be leaked........... :blankfriggingstare1

And?
Help?

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

In 1997 I heard that The Stones booked The Horseshoe stadium in Columbus for that September. I didn't even believe it at the time. I knew people who worked for The School and it had leaked out. In 2004 we already had solid word, even blurbs from Don Was that The Stones were together writing. In 94 we knew they were working on an album at this time. Stadiums would have to be booked already. A promoter would more than likely be selected for such an event... etc. etc. I realize that kina stuff is kept on the very own down / real hush-hush.... but usually there is a blurb from someone of something leaks out. My only point is that so far... no word on any of that kina stuff has leaked to any of us (besides the juicy Jam session info you gave us in which we are grateful... now give us some more juice... hehe)- Ian

Did you hear about the Columbus date seven months before it happened, though?

Probably not.  You may have heard gossip about a venue (not uncommon as its usually not that hard to guess what venues would be used on a stadium tour - its a bit like me saying "I heard they'll play Wembley Stadium in 2013") but I doubt you knew the date very far in advance. For every show we hear about that works out, there's probably more rumoured shows that never take place. Everyone seems to forget about those!


Columbus was also at the start of the tour in late September or early October - just six or seven weeks after the tour was confirmed on 18th August. I'd imagine that venue had been reserved by the spring or early summer.


As for '94. It was no secret they were working on an album. It was a big story where I live in July 1993 for the simple reason that they were recording in Dublin. On Mick's 50th birthday, it was a front page story that he had spent it recording in Ireland. So, there was NO surprise that the Stones would tour in 1994. As I've said, you're hearing less now for the simple reason that the band arent working on a new record.  In 2004, we knew as early as summer 2004 that they were working on songs for a new record, so there was no doubt that they were going to tour in 2005.

I've heard more detail in the last two days about a 2012 Stones tour than I've heard in the last two years combined. Some of it highly implausible (The 'leaked' European dates for September 2012 that I mentioned earlier) but some regarding US shows around the same time which have a lot more validity. Its a bizarre state of desperation when people arent just complaining that they havent heard enough confirmed info by a certain date but that they havent heard enough rumours.

Did you ever think that maybe the Stones organisation are just better now at keeping things under wraps? People DO get into trouble for leaking info when they're not supposed to. A lot of stuff at the minute comes with the 'dont post this' disclaimer.    

There are usually quite valid reasons for not posting dates too early - and no one in their right mind should be booking flights based on a rumoured concert date.

We'll know when we need to know.

Holiday Inn calling.....Ian and Gazza your room is ready!

IAN IS RELENTLESS.
AND GAZZA IS LIKE ME WITH BEER.
HE CAN'T LEAVE IT ALONE.

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

Holiday Inn calling.....Ian and Gazza your room is ready!

:aimama

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

Holiday Inn calling.....Ian and Gazza your room is ready!

I'm waiting for Gazza to bust this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs