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Message started by steel driving hammer on Jan 7th, 2012 at 5:11pm

Title: Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by steel driving hammer on Jan 7th, 2012 at 5:11pm
Was this before, or after...

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Post by Sioux on Jan 7th, 2012 at 5:13pm
Could be either...hehehe....

Title: Re:  Mick n' Bowie Header
Post by steel driving hammer on Jan 7th, 2012 at 5:13pm
 lol

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Post by Paranoid Android on Jan 7th, 2012 at 6:01pm
AMAZING PHOTOGRAPH!!!

Any info/background on this???

I mean besides the hockey/mullet haircuts... ;D ;D

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by BILL PERKS on Jan 7th, 2012 at 6:35pm
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH BOWIE? WHERE IS HE THESE DAYS?

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Post by mojoman on Jan 7th, 2012 at 9:53pm
happy sixtyfifth birthday mr jones

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Post by Gazza on Jan 8th, 2012 at 4:54am

BILL PERKS wrote on Jan 7th, 2012 at 6:35pm:
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH BOWIE? WHERE IS HE THESE DAYS?


Enjoying his retirement, unfortunately.

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by Heart Of Stone on Jan 8th, 2012 at 6:41am
What a great picture/header, it must have been during that Glass Spider tour days, '87,  that's when Bowie had that hair style, & if you're referring to the Angie story before or after, it's after.
Yes, he is retired I believe, & it is very unfortunate.

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by Bitch on Jan 8th, 2012 at 9:39am

Heart Of Stone wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 6:41am:
What a great picture/header, it must have been during that Glass Spider tour days, '87,  that's when Bowie had that hair style, & if you're referring to the Angie story before or after, it's after.
Yes, he is retired I believe, & it is very unfortunate.


I thought they were talking about a gay incident! Anyway I thought that Angie thing never really happened? SO whats up with that story?  :nomames :will-ya

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Post by Heart Of Stone on Jan 8th, 2012 at 10:03am

Bitch wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 9:39am:

Heart Of Stone wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 6:41am:
What a great picture/header, it must have been during that Glass Spider tour days, '87,  that's when Bowie had that hair style, & if you're referring to the Angie story before or after, it's after.
Yes, he is retired I believe, & it is very unfortunate.


I thought they were talking about a gay incident! Anyway I thought that Angie thing never really happened? SO whats up with that story?  :nomames :will-ya


Angie needed the money, for a Woman who lives of her Ex-husband's name, I don't believe for a moment that sex was involved! both of them were stoned out of their tree, or drunk, here's Angie on Youtube telling the story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYGXufc5k9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzc-ro_B760

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by Paranoid Android on Jan 8th, 2012 at 12:39pm
I guess

"David Bowie
UB40"

needs to be updated

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Post by TomL on Jan 9th, 2012 at 7:34am
thats before the glass spider tour.

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Jan 9th, 2012 at 8:45am
This was the header


© 1987 Denis O'Regan

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Post by Heart Of Stone on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:32am
Ziggy Stardust Turns 40: Producer Ken Scott Talks about the Les Paul Powered Masterpiece
Russell Hall
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06.05.2012
David Bowie Ziggy Stardust Anniversary Edition
                                                   

Hard to believe, but this month marks the 40th anniversary of David Bowie’s glam rock masterpiece, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. Powered by one of rock’s tightest-ever ensembles – Trevor Bolder on bass, Woody Woodmansey on drums, Mick Ronson on guitar and Bowie himself of rhythm acoustic – Ziggy Stardust remains an essential touchstone for any up-and-coming four-piece rock band.

To commemorate the album’s 40th year, EMI has just released a special newly-remastered edition of the disc, with a 5.1 mix. The release is available on CD, on limited edition vinyl and on high-resolution DVD, with bonus tracks.

Producer-engineer Ken Scott, who produced the Ziggy Stardust album alongside Bowie, has also just published a remarkable book detailing his experiences recording Bowie and other rock greats. Titled Abbey Road to Ziggy Stardust: Off-the-record with The Beatles, Bowie, Elton, and So Much More, the book offers behind-the-scenes looks at the making of The Beatles’ White Album, Elton John’s Honky Chateau, Jeff Beck’s Truth and many other classics.

From his home in Los Angeles, Scott spoke with us about Bowie’s work methods, how Mick Ronson achieved his distinctive glam-era tone and why pressure in the recording studio can be a good thing.

You write in your book that you consider Bowie the most remarkable singer you’ve ever worked with. Why do you feel that way?

Ninety-five percent of the vocals I recorded with him – on Hunky Dory, Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane and Pinups – were done in first takes. I would set the level, we would roll tape and that was it. That became the performance everyone heard. Whether or not you love his voice is a personal matter, but his ability to put those performances across is beyond admonition. And that doesn’t mean they’re perfect. There are places where the pitch is slightly off, or the timing is slightly off. But they’re human. It’s not like what we have today, where everything has to be auto-tuned and moved around on the grid. Bowie’s vocals are actual performances, and I think that’s one of the main reasons we’re still talking about Ziggy Stardust, 40 years on.

Bowie sang almost exclusively in his upper register on the Ziggy Stardust album. Why did he stop doing that, beginning with Aladdin Sane?
Brian Ward / © 1972 The David Bowie Archive

I can’t say, for sure. I can only guess. But I would think that was part of David’s character change, something he did by choice. Over time that sort of thing happens, Elton John being an example, these days. It sometimes happens with age, but my feeling is, with David in those days, it would have been by choice.

Handclaps were a big part of many of the arrangements on Ziggy Stardust. Whose idea was that?

(laughs) I can’t really say which ideas were whose. Everything was very much a team effort. Take David’s acoustic guitar, for instance. Ziggy Stardust is a rock and roll album, but every track has acoustic guitar. That was a reversion to the early days of rock and roll. Elvis, Bill Haley, Eddie Cochran – they all used acoustic guitars in their rock and roll material. I did the same with David, who played most of the acoustic guitar on the rock and roll songs. I used it like a percussive instrument. I didn’t like cymbals in those days, so I tended to keep the cymbals down [in the mix]. I used the acoustic guitar like a high-hat, where it was more “high-end-y” and “clicky” than tonal. I used that sort of rhythm, as opposed to the “high-hat” rhythm.

Did Ronson play his Les Paul to the exclusion of all other electric guitars, on those sessions?

Yes. It was a remarkably simple setup. It was his Les Paul going through a wah wah – a Crybaby, I believe – into a one-hundred-watt Marshall. That was it. When we were working on tone for the guitar, he would go through the wah wah, find what we liked, and then he would take his foot off and leave it there. He used the wah wah for tone control.

Was his solo on “Moonage Daydream” done in one take?

As best I recall. My recollection is that there had been no discussion, beforehand, regarding what it should be, or what it was going to be. It was more like, “Okay, it’s time to do it,” and he just played it. David and I just went, “Wow!” Whether or not Ronson had spent time working on it at home, beforehand, is something I can’t answer.

Why didn’t Ronson go on to great success as a solo artist?

One has to have a certain ego to be a frontman, and I don’t think Ronno had that ego. And I don’t mean that in a negative way. Generally speaking – and I want to stress this is a generalization – musicians have particular personalities, related to their instruments and to the role they play. A bass player tends to have a personality that’s different from the personality of a drummer, and so on. There’s a personality trait peculiar to a frontman – the lead singer – that Ronno definitely didn’t have.

The arrangements on the demos for some of the Ziggy Stardust material were much different from what ended up on the album. Were the arrangements worked out in the studio?

They were. I’ve since spoken with Woody about that. He points out that he and Trevor were always worried in the studio, because David got bored easily. They knew they needed to nail something by the third or fourth take; otherwise, that song might be sort of taken off the list. They were always playing by the seat of their pants, trying to get a proper take as soon as possible. Of course that ratchets the excitement up very high.

What did you think of Ronson’s piano work?

Well … (laughs) There’s one track – I can’t remember which – where he couldn’t play both the right hand and the left hand at the same time. We put down the right hand, and once we got that, we put down the left. And I mixed them together to make it sound like one piano. I find the whole experience on those Ziggy-era albums, with regard to keyboards, to be very interesting. You’ve got Hunky Dory, with Rick Wakeman, whose piano playing is exquisite all the way through. It’s all of one style. And then you’ve got the simplistic piano style on Ziggy. And then you move to the avant garde, with Mike Garson, on Aladdin Sane. Everything else tended to remain fairly similar, but the feel of the keyboards changed on each of those three projects.

By the time Pinups was made, Bowie was truly a star. Did that affect the way he worked in the studio?

No, it was always exceedingly professional. We always had just a couple of weeks to record an album. Aladdin Sane took slightly longer – probably three weeks -- but only because we started recording in New York, before going back to England to carry on. Those albums were made during a period in which artists were expected to come up with an album every six months. There were extreme time constraints. You couldn’t mess around. We had fun all the time, but it was productive fun.

Was that a good thing, the pressure to come up with two albums a year?

It made the cream rise to the top. Only the best artists could keep it going. Just look at the material that came out from that period. It was unbelievable – from Bowie to Elton John to The Who and beyond. It’s amazing, the things that we still listen to and talk about today, that were made under that pressure. You were forced to make decisions quickly, without second-guessing yourself. And the quality of the work was better as a result.

Does the esteem in which Ziggy Stardust continues to be held surprise you?

It floors me, the fact that we’re still talking about it 40 years later. For me, it was one month out of 50-odd years of working the studio. But yes, I love it. To borrow what Paul McCartney said about the White Album, “Yes, it’s a great little album.”
http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/ziggy-stardust-producer-ken-scott-0605-2012.aspx?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Gibson%20Guitar%20Corp.&utm_content=Editorial+eBlast+-+June+12%2C+2012

Title: Re:  Mick & Bowie Happy Together Header
Post by Gazza on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:42am
Great piece, thanks. Reminds me that I still have to run out and buy it this week.

I know its probably his most iconic record, and its a terrific album but I've personally always preferred the sequence of studio albums he did in the few years that followed, from Aladdin Sane (skipping 'Pin Ups' - its good, but a covers album not on the same par as his original stuff) - through to 1980's 'Scary Monsters', which is not only my favourite Bowie album, but one that's in my top ten by anyone.

Its an incredibly diverse, brilliant output of material in that decade which hasnt really been matched by anyone since (Springsteen's made several consistently brilliant records, but with longer gaps between releases).

His later albums have grown on me too in recent years - never really 'got' them at the time. We're eight years into his 'retirement' now, and it's still a massive musical void that no one has filled.

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Post by Heart Of Stone on Jun 13th, 2012 at 12:03pm
I love 70's Bowie, his Ziggy was so way ahead of it's time, here was this guy singing like a Broadway singer, like Judy Garland or something to that extent, there was never that in Rock before, & to read the article he did most of it in one take! I agree with you totally Gazza, he leaves a massive musical void.

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Post by mojoman on Jun 13th, 2012 at 7:28pm
TRAFOZSATSFM is tremendous, Man who sold the world is underappreciated. Aladdin Sane, Station to Station, Low/Heroes/Lodger, and Scary Monsters  the man really laid down a catalog of work from 70-80 that was as varied as the people he worked with.


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