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Message started by Mel Belli on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:13pm

Title: Ominous signs
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:13pm
http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1487326

and

http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1486409

I confess I can't get my head around this. Keith said nothing -- nothing -- in that book that he hadn't said before. Really the only halfway-novel bit of news was that Keith is no longer confrontational, but rather sad: He misses his friend. He wishes they could hang out in the dressing room sometimes.

Why is this WWIII again?

There is something else going on. Maybe Mick believes that Keith is a total wreck of a guitar player nowadays, and doesn't bring nearly enough material to the songwriting table. Maybe he's too polite to say this publicly. Maybe it's Ronnie he doesn't feel like dealing with anymore. Maybe it's some combination of the two. Maybe post-brain-trauma Keith is not physically able to tour for any length -- something else they'd all like to keep quiet.

I just don't buy that Mick's feelings are hurt, and he's taking his ball home.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:29pm

C'mon, Mel. That's the same whole-lotta-nothing we've been seeing for weeks.
Mick's promoting SuperHeavy, so he's pooh-poohed the day job talk. Hell, he's used that "popping out of a cake in drag" joke more than once.

Ronnie says Keith's working on "his" album, and as several posters pointed out, the context of that meeting comment changes completely when punctuated correctly. 
BTW, that piece was also posted here.

Charlie said last week - "I guess if we agree, we'll do some concerts...I doubt we'll do a tour."  

The Stones sky ain't falling just yet...

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:35pm
Hope you're right, lefty.

But if Ronnie can only "wish" they had a great meeting, clearly something's not right. Otherwise, they'd say, "Nothing's set in stone, but we had a constructive conversation. Let's see what next year brings ... blah blah blah."

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:43pm
Actually, it appears that Ronnie *did* say "We had a great meeting." Not: "I wish we could say we had a great meeting."

http://shidoobeewithstonesdoug.yuku.com/topic/27714/Ronnie-Keith-recording-in-NY#.ToyXB5xSnbB

Love that period!

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Some Guy on Oct 5th, 2011 at 1:08pm
It's back over.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 5th, 2011 at 1:27pm
Didn't see the Charlie interview where he said they'd just do some shows but not a tour next year. Now that sounds ominous. Not the Stones MO at all. :nomames

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Some Guy on Oct 5th, 2011 at 1:31pm
let's see your ass go on a world tour when you're almost 70.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Ginda on Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:29pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
Didn't see the Charlie interview where he said they'd just do some shows but not a tour next year. Now that sounds ominous. Not the Stones MO at all. :nomames



 Apparently you're not the only one that missed it.  Here is the full interview:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1300643393/116#116

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by GotToRollMe on Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:54pm
Who the fuck is Mick Jagger?

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by gimmekeef on Oct 5th, 2011 at 3:21pm

GotToRollMe wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:54pm:
Who the fuck is Mick Jagger?


Joss Stone's backup singer.............

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 5th, 2011 at 5:02pm

Ginda wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:29pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
Didn't see the Charlie interview where he said they'd just do some shows but not a tour next year. Now that sounds ominous. Not the Stones MO at all. :nomames



 Apparently you're not the only one that missed it.  Here is the full interview:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1300643393/116#116

Thanks Ginda. Don't know if it's Charlie being coy. But reading the exact quote makes it even more ominous. Doesn't sound like a lot of enthusiam on Mr Watts part.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 5th, 2011 at 7:53pm
I think the biggest issue is the failing U.S. economy and high fuel prices. Stones, Inc. has always had eyes on the profit, and not a lot of people can afford tickets. I've been watching ticket prices start out high for some artists and within weeks the price is down to 20-40 bucks.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Pdog on Oct 5th, 2011 at 8:47pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 7:53pm:
I think the biggest issue is the failing U.S. economy and high fuel prices. Stones, Inc. has always had eyes on the profit, and not a lot of people can afford tickets. I've been watching ticket prices start out high for some artists and within weeks the price is down to 20-40 bucks.


Diidn't stop U2...
no excuses, you either tour or you don't... I don't why, they can strip it down make it more streamlined, do less markets and ore gigs in big markets ect... the bottom line will be there... if they have inside issues, that's a big whatever for me... if a bunch of 70 year old have resentments, and can;t get over them, so be it... otherwise, and what my POV is... this is more same old same old media bullshit, making another end of the band story...

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Joey on Oct 6th, 2011 at 4:57pm
" I confess I can't get my head around this. Keith said nothing -- nothing -- in that book that he hadn't said before. Really the only halfway-novel bit of news was that Keith is no longer confrontational, but rather sad: He misses his friend. He wishes they could hang out in the dressing room sometimes.

Why is this WWIII again?

There is something else going on.  "


What about Mick's Todger  .......... ?!


Is it really Tiny like Keef has alleged ................. ?!

Since none of our Stonesian Sisters have come forth to verify said member just whom are we to believe .. ?!   ... Keef ?!   ........ Townshend .. ?!    


Developing ..................


J Fly ! ®

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 6th, 2011 at 8:32pm
The "todger" remark was a rehash too.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Pdog on Oct 6th, 2011 at 9:57pm

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 6th, 2011 at 8:32pm:
The "todger" remark was a rehash too.



and who hasn't told a friend they got a little dick?

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by corgi37 on Oct 7th, 2011 at 7:52am
And in all my mates cases, the do have little pee-pees!

Of course, i dont.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by gotdablouse on Oct 7th, 2011 at 8:38am

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:13pm:
There is something else going on. Maybe Mick believes that Keith is a total wreck of a guitar player nowadays, and doesn't bring nearly enough material to the songwriting table. Maybe he's too polite to say this publicly. Maybe it's Ronnie he doesn't feel like dealing with anymore. Maybe it's some combination of the two. Maybe post-brain-trauma Keith is not physically able to tour for any length -- something else they'd all like to keep quiet..

That and the fact that Mick probably realizes that he's now got enough money for generations to come and that he doesn't want to waste his remaining good years dealing with Keith and Ronnie anymore.

Remember that live questions feed for the 2006 euro tour where he appeared to be terribly embarassed by Keith's nonsense, apoligizing profusely for him? Or in Shine a Light when Keith's goofing around on Faraway Eyes (?) and Mick races towards him to make him cut the crap?

I say good for him, brave decision.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by mojoman on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:06am

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

GotToRollMe wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:54pm:
Who the fuck is Mick Jagger?


Joss Stone's backup singer.............




word

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Ginda on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:56am

gotdablouse wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 8:38am:

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 12:13pm:
There is something else going on. Maybe Mick believes that Keith is a total wreck of a guitar player nowadays, and doesn't bring nearly enough material to the songwriting table. Maybe he's too polite to say this publicly. Maybe it's Ronnie he doesn't feel like dealing with anymore. Maybe it's some combination of the two. Maybe post-brain-trauma Keith is not physically able to tour for any length -- something else they'd all like to keep quiet..

That and the fact that Mick probably realizes that he's now got enough money for generations to come and that he doesn't want to waste his remaining good years dealing with Keith and Ronnie anymore.

Remember that live questions feed for the 2006 euro tour where he appeared to be terribly embarassed by Keith's nonsense, apoligizing profusely for him? Or in Shine a Light when Keith's goofing around on Faraway Eyes (?) and Mick races towards him to make him cut the crap?

I say good for him, brave decision.


I think it's a combination of what was stated and the book.  The book was just the last straw.  I don't know if Ronnie even factors into it - he seems to be in fine form.  I wonder if Keith really does want to try and tour.  I don't think he does - hence the remarks.  He's just too stubborn to admit it.

Title: Re: dundant
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:17pm

Joey wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:09pm:
How come nobody is addressing the main question?!

How many more times are you going to ask?
Apparently no one was interested the previous half dozen times either.

Might be time to upgrade to the Schtickometer 2000.
Not only does it come with some desperately needed new material, but more importantly, an "OFF" switch.

Title: Re: dundant
Post by Pdog on Oct 8th, 2011 at 9:03pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:09pm:
How come nobody is addressing the main question?!

How many more times are you going to ask?
Apparently no one was interested the previous half dozen times either.

Might be time to upgrade to the Schtickometer 2000.
Not only does it come with some desperately needed new material, but more importantly, an "OFF" switch.



he just has cock on the brain...

Title: Re: dundant
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 8th, 2011 at 11:30pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:09pm:
How come nobody is addressing the main question?!

How many more times are you going to ask?
Apparently no one was interested the previous half dozen times either.

Might be time to upgrade to the Schtickometer 2000.
Not only does it come with some desperately needed new material, but more importantly, an "OFF" switch.

Last time I checked,no one was forcing you to read his crap. Maybe your the one that needs an off switch. :pukey

Title: Re: dundant
Post by Ginda on Oct 8th, 2011 at 11:51pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 11:30pm:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:09pm:
How come nobody is addressing the main question?!

How many more times are you going to ask?
Apparently no one was interested the previous half dozen times either.

Might be time to upgrade to the Schtickometer 2000.
Not only does it come with some desperately needed new material, but more importantly, an "OFF" switch.

Last time I checked,no one was forcing you to read his crap. Maybe your the one that needs an off switch. :pukey


Time to fall back and reload, scl.  Your ammo is wet.  Joey has his own thread.  People don't have to read IT,  but this is not his thread.  There was an actual discussion taking place when he wandered in.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by BONOISLOVE on Oct 9th, 2011 at 12:07am
Every time I take a shower, I shut my eyes so I don't have to see my penis.

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by steel driving hammer on Oct 9th, 2011 at 8:27am

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Joey on Oct 9th, 2011 at 11:16am
" ............. somebody needs to make an official statement   "

Concur .

I mean , Pete Townshend states that it is HUGE !!!   .. Keef states that it is TINY !!!!!

Both men are Rock Gods ................... just  whom are we to believe ?


Developing ...........................................


" Todger Me RonnieCakes  "


J  -- to  --  the  --  'kins ®

Title: Re: Ominous signs
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2011 at 6:00pm
"  Let's see what next year brings ...  "




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